His shifting read on myself is something I noted as well. Protect me yesterday, and now today I'm "dubious" and his gut tells him something is off.
It's all good.
That you're either easily manipulated or pretending to be. That you don't follow through with your observations. That you avoid having solid, concrete reads beyond the recent omgus reaction you've had on me.
It's not commitment to posting, this isn't a race. It's about having an opinion mad standing by it.
I did in my post. Go back and click the arrows. On mobile and have limited time to grab it right now but can do in a few hours if you still want by then.
Looking back, these are the points I thought were pretty good.
I think he's right here that some of your reactions felt a bit canned. Like he puts it, "crossing items out of a checklist." To me, it's basically the idea that you're maybe reading the room temp, and commenting on the things that you think you should be commenting on and giving an "appropriate" reaction.
These were good points here too I thought. I am not the best at reading into votes for clues, as I've said earlier, but FB has a lot more experience than me.
And I do agree here that it might have been somewhat of a perspective slip there to be bracing for a Town flip from someone you are scum reading and voting for.
I was more interested in the fact that your vote isn't on Fire since he is one of your two top scum reads, ahead of Cap who you are voting for.
Those reads are mostly based on the fact that he is scum reading you though. That seems to be your primary concern, yes? And he is one of your top scum reads for that?
I believe this is the post he was referring to, with quotes from you:
You asked what my points were as if you didn't know what they were.
I will absolutely not share my belief in 3 or 4 town power roles and the info they collected and lightly crumbed or otherwise shared with me just in order to potentially save one person I read as scum. Perhaps you didn't realize this was role fishing. I have no intention of claiming today or of open speculation apart from what I already posted about our one flip.
Nah, I have no idea what she's on about a lot of the time here with the crystal ball stuff. I'm doing my best to get her to explain herself more with her reads though.
I did read your answers when I was looking back, I just didn't really think you refuted his points all that well and that they still stood. I'll give it another reread though.
I also forgot to add CaptainNueva. Between Fireblend and Aeleus
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Not until he just showed up again now, no. He had one post this morning as well.
I read his day phase history, he made comments on at least half the party and questioned me. At least he appears to be following the game when he can.
Oh wow I just forgot everyone. I'm sorry, it's been a long day (I've been awake since 2AM, so about 15 hours and change)
The way I see it, you and Fant are putting in work, and if there's any merit to the scum/town thing at all (I don't think there is but for the sake of the list I had to take it into account) then I think Fant might've ended up being the town one. From there we move into Town-null territory where Fireblend and CaptainNueva hang out, pure null from Aeleus, Null-Scum from Ynnek7 and Kopite, then Scum onwards.*
Fantomas is right, post he linked is the one that mentions it.
Hrmmm....Fire has insightful posts about Sae, and I can completely understand why he has thrown suspicion that way. What makes me uncomfortable about a scum read on Sae is that much of what people have criticized Sae over I am guilty of myself (as well as others). Fishing for Zeke's partner? Absolutely. A bunch of us did, myself included. Posting concern about the Zipped train? Z-Beat, WhySoDevious, and I were all concerned as well.
Is there any reason you're voting me other than the fact that I'm voting you?
^ This especially is some straight up bullshit and I'm surprised no one else is calling it out more. This more recent swerve towards Sae reminds me of how D1 attention on feps (and later Zipped) took the conversation away from Ynnek again.
Once again, no read on Sae. Sae has a lot more posts than Ynnek7, so it'll take more time to go through those posts and see what mentions there are of Ynnek7. But Ynnek7 might be purposefully avoiding commenting on a fellow scum.
I didn't comment because I agree with the message at it's core. But...I should have because the way the message was delivered was all kind's of bad. I think they cancelled each other out in my head and I left it alone. I did have Wee on my lean-scum list I posted earlier though. Just...nothing concrete on her yet.
This is false, there was no retraction whatsoever, I stamped that shit out ASAP. As far as I'm concerned I couldn't have jumped the gun quicker to dismiss a no lynch, GF would've been proud. Hell the reason Cap went into my scum/neutral list was when he pulled me up on it, when a townie should know far better.
I think my interaction with Cap above should show that I'm batting for town and am unafraid of making a stand, not exactly a low engagement poster as you indicated. When we were town masons together was I any more/less involved? I highly doubt so. I genuinely missed out on the questions you asked in a earlier post but as you've quoted below I replied to it so it's hardly like I didn't do anything.
So you read me go "I don't deny this", but somehow think I didn't 'admit defeat'? You then called me out on feeling meh on making a D1 read list, which as I mentioned is somewhat unneeded on D1. I went ahead and did it anyway after Z-Beat pushed me on it too and I think I've been thoroughly vindicated since no one paid attention to it and I think I was the only one with a full reads list.
Correct, in my last game I let a scum player coast by with next to no engagement and I'm unwilling to let that go again, especially this early on and that's reflected on my votes.
On the WSD front it might be because when I made a pretyped post in mansion I was criticized for it, they called it a slightly scummy move as it feels like the one posting knows more than they're letting on, he might have just taken that feedback to heart.
I read the follow up post as more of an explanation of why you didn't want to discuss not killing rather than an actual push back against Captain but fine, I'll just add that to the reasoning that you and Captian aren't both scum unless there was some early game bussing going on.
Calling out someone who is considering not throwing someone out of a window really is NAI (I know as I made the exact same point when I was SK in my last game), I accepted that you missed the questions I asked you so I didn't include you not seeing them in the ISO, I also stated that your performance improved as the day went on.
Your answers felt like they were admitting it 'but' (whining that it was too much effort or that no one else had a stellar performance), sorry if I didn't make that clear.
But do you admit that in a hypothetical scenario where you rolled scum this game you could have coasted by targetting innactive players and using the results of the previous game as an excuse? Having a slight against a certain type of player doesn't mean that you should focus on only them (and I know you've changed your tune a bit since then but I was looking at your first 21 posts)
It was both of our first games and it's a lesson I've taken to heart so WSD might have done the same.
Let me tell you a story:
From what I can tell, Weemad is making a lot of grandiose statements in this game so far. I think some of it might just be playstyle, some of it does kind of rub me the wrong way though. The fact that that was her response when I asked for her read on Sae that she had been hinting at was interesting since it doesn't really bring a whole lot to the table considering this is supposedly her #1 Scum read.
I would say pre-typed posts are NAI, I've seen them made by both Town and Scum.
Okay, yes, I've been very uncommunicative about my reasoning, so I'm popping in to explain myself a bit.
