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W-00

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Oct 27, 2017
5,453
So now you're gonna be sent to a more secure facility with slightly worse food. Didn't really think that one through.
And yeah, she really didn't think this through. Why is prison any better than a home?
It's not about avoiding worse living conditions - her life was already going to get worse. It was an act of spite. An "I can't win, but neither can you," sort of thing. In the article, she even says that she deserves "to be put to sleep."
Lots of people here are forgetting that she got something better than an old age home and even better than staying in her own house: Sweet revenge.
Exactly.
 

Azzanadra

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Oct 25, 2017
3,807
Canada
I would be totally cool with a nursing home in my last years. It'd give me time to go through my Steam backlog. Nursing homes are going to be one big LAN party by the time we get older.

Damn really? I mean I could sympathize with getting down on the backlog, but I hate the idea of nursing homes- even in my old age I rather live and die in a place I can call my own. Or at least with family on a hospital bed.
 

bangai-o

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Oct 27, 2017
9,527
Damn really? I mean I could sympathize with getting down on the backlog, but I hate the idea of nursing homes- even in my old age I rather live and die in a place I can call my own. Or at least with family on a hospital bed.
The problem is if you are too old to take care of yourself. Doing simple things like opening a jug of milk, cooking a meal, and other tasks such as getting into a shower, bathroom, doctors appointments, etc. Family members dont want to be taking care of you forever.
 

Unicorn

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 29, 2017
9,568
I think the weirdest thing about this for me is a 72 year old having a girlfriend. I struggle to wrap my head around old people dating.

And yeah, she really didn't think this through. Why is prison any better than a home?
Dude, senior communities are basically fuck camps. All these retired mofos on a lot together - all the time in the world... For boning.
 

Jom

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Oct 25, 2017
3,490
If the US provided healthcare in the form of at-home caretakers this wouldn't happen. My 97 year old grandparents live at the home they bought in their 30s still and will die in that home because the government fully pays for a nearly 24 hour at-home caretaker. In the US everyone just gets dumped at shitty care homes rife with elder abuse.
 

Sectorseven

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Oct 25, 2017
6,560
What do they do with criminals this old? I imagine they need more care than a typical prison can provide.
 

astro

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Oct 25, 2017
56,988
I think the weirdest thing about this for me is a 72 year old having a girlfriend. I struggle to wrap my head around old people dating.

And yeah, she really didn't think this through. Why is prison any better than a home?

Try to get rid of that ageist thought process.
 

PHOENIXZERO

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Oct 29, 2017
12,100
I imagine she's going to be examined for Alzheimer's/dementia which at that age is relatively high. She's going to end up in some sort of care facility regardless and even less alone.
 

NaturalHigh

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Oct 27, 2017
5,354
Damn really? I mean I could sympathize with getting down on the backlog, but I hate the idea of nursing homes- even in my old age I rather live and die in a place I can call my own. Or at least with family on a hospital bed.

It depends on my condition. As others have said, if I can't take care of myself I wouldn't put that burden on my family (if I ever have a family). That plus I prefer the hermit lifestyle. It would be a perfect fit for me but things can change.
 

sapien85

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Nov 8, 2017
5,427
I want to live in a nursing home when I'm old. What am I gonna do? Live and die alone in an empty house just to say it's mine? Unless I had a partner in old age that is.
 

sangreal

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Oct 25, 2017
10,890
So now you're gonna be sent to a more secure facility with slightly worse food. Didn't really think that one through.

I think the weirdest thing about this for me is a 72 year old having a girlfriend. I struggle to wrap my head around old people dating.

And yeah, she really didn't think this through. Why is prison any better than a home?

She planned to kill herself (and the GF for that matter)
 

Deleted member 1067

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Oct 25, 2017
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I hadn't even considered old people having sex.
Lol why? My 84 year old granddad was a bigger horndog than most dudes I know, right up until he died he was still playing the feild like he was 25 xD
Just because one gets older doesn't necessarily mean they wanna fuck any less, especially these days.
 

jwk94

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Oct 25, 2017
13,426
Lol why? My 84 year old granddad was a bigger horndog than most dudes I know, right up until he died he was still playing the feild like he was 25 xD
Just because one gets older doesn't necessarily mean they wanna fuck any less, especially these days.
Because there's always been that stereotype that as you get older, you have less and less sex. Plus I can't imagine old people doing all those positions
 

Deleted member 1067

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Oct 25, 2017
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Because there's always been that stereotype that as you get older, you have less and less sex. Plus I can't imagine old people doing all those positions
It's 2018 not 1995 man. Viagra has been a thing for what, decades now?

Also one doesn't have to do multiple moves out of the Kama Sutra to have sex lol
 

okayfrog

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Oct 25, 2017
3,968
She did him in with the John Woo-style?


I imagine the son's girlfriend pushing her down a ramp. She points to the son, standing at the bottom. "He is going to take you to a better place," she says. But the nonagenarian isn't having any of it. She elbows the gf, and the gf releases her hold on the old woman. While sliding down the ramp, the old woman brandishes her two pistols, and takes her son out before hitting level ground. As her son hits the ground, the old woman runs right over him, off to a better tomorrow.
 

FrequentFlyer

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Dec 3, 2017
1,273
People need to realize that these sort of "care homes" were not always the nice and cozy places they are now. These places used to be horrible and something you'd threaten someone with, and that is ingrained in a lot of old people unfortunately. It's also why often you have so much resistance at first but once they settle in and meet new friends most end up really liking it.
 

shiba5

I shed
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Oct 25, 2017
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I think the weirdest thing about this for me is a 72 year old having a girlfriend. I struggle to wrap my head around old people dating.

And yeah, she really didn't think this through. Why is prison any better than a home?

You've never been to Florida have you? There are entire STD-ridden retirement "villages" down there.
 

Philia

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Oct 25, 2017
439
People need to realize that these sort of "care homes" were not always the nice and cozy places they are now. These places used to be horrible and something you'd threaten someone with, and that is ingrained in a lot of old people unfortunately. It's also why often you have so much resistance at first but once they settle in and meet new friends most end up really liking it.

This. My grandma is 102 years old and she outright refuses to go to a care home. Why would she, she has her own house. Her two kids are mooching off of her. For the record she had 5, the 3 good ones (including my mother) had died already. Those two at home? Not even employed, not even married or with kids. They're literally drunk and drug addled shitheads with no prospect in life. If she actually gave up her house to them, she can bet she'll be placed in a home immediately. She's not that dumb and is fighting for her place.

Being old and having so fucking selfish children REALLLLLY sucks. I feel for her and wishes she'd just... kick them out but no. She didn't want to be that mom with shitheads living on the curb or something... its also possible that she doesn't know how to legally boot them out without having go into a legal court battle. Elder abuse is VERY real.

Quite frankly... if she had a gun, she'd probably use it. I don't condone this woman killing her son but I at the very least can understand a lot of it. I wouldn't be surprised if they lived in a dump. My grandma's house from 1950s is falling apart so, yeah even prison would be way better than nothing at all.
 
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duckroll

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Oct 25, 2017
11,224
Singapore
I don't see why people seem to think that prison is not better than a nursing home. Nursing homes are pretty miserable places, especially if you're still mentally sharp. You're surrounded by old people who are also waiting to die, many of them aren't all there, you are constantly reminded of your mortality, and the people looking after you could be caring and great or could be jaded jackasses. It's a lottery. At least in prison you are surrounded by far younger people, active, and they have very interesting stories to share. Plus the daily routine doesn't treat you like you are already halfway into the grave. I mean yeah prison isn't something most people want to experience, but between two bad choices, I'll say this could well be the better one. Killing your son to get there is really fucked up though.
 

Volimar

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't see why people seem to think that prison is not better than a nursing home. Nursing homes are pretty miserable places, especially if you're still mentally sharp. You're surrounded by old people who are also waiting to die, many of them aren't all there, you are constantly reminded of your mortality, and the people looking after you could be caring and great or could be jaded jackasses. It's a lottery. At least in prison you are surrounded by far younger people, active, and they have very interesting stories to share. Plus the daily routine doesn't treat you like you are already halfway into the grave. I mean yeah prison isn't something most people want to experience, but between two bad choices, I'll say this could well be the better one. Killing your son to get there is really fucked up though.


Corporate owned homes are often penny pinching shitholes. They're allowed to count office people who have state testing as if they're on the floor meaning they're always short staffed. They almost always know when the state inspectors are coming so they clean the place up for a few days in anticipation and then right back to being shitholes. Residents are vulnerable to being abused by employees and other residents, both physically and sexually. Most homes prohibit concealed cameras under privacy concerns but really because if you saw how much they are ignored and how roughly they're treated you'd be outraged.

Pro tip: If you have an incontinent parent or grandparent in a nursing home, have a family member that's comfortable with it write the date and time on the resident's adult diaper. Come back the next day and check if it has been changed.
 

Parch

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Nov 6, 2017
7,980
It really depends on the facility. Some are so nice they're like vacation resorts with a lot more social interaction than seniors normally have.
You get what you pay for.
 

Mechanized

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Oct 27, 2017
3,442
Crazy old bag. Imagine killing a loved one over something so stupid. I'm sure that prison sentence will be much better than an old age home.
 

Stinkles

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Oct 25, 2017
20,459
My mother in law is in a graduating care community - starts war normal house with ADA stuff, then condo, then assisted care visits then more intensive care. It's nice but there's a depressingly busy shrine for the recently departed and it all feels very purposeful and terminal to me.
 

moneywoes

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Nov 17, 2017
343
At what point do we classify people as being sane enough to make the right decision to say yes or no to something?
 

Mechanized

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Oct 27, 2017
3,442
It's not about avoiding worse living conditions - her life was already going to get worse. It was an act of spite. An "I can't win, but neither can you," sort of thing. In the article, she even says that she deserves "to be put to sleep."

Exactly.

Sweet revenge for what? Going to a place that could properly care for her? She's an idiot and this sentiment is stupid. She's not some badass, she killed her fucking son over some bullshit.
 

sfedai0

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Oct 27, 2017
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Its a sobering thought that a mother who gave life to a son is the very same person to end it. How selfish of her to not just kill herself. I dont get people.
 

Volimar

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Oct 25, 2017
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It really depends on the facility. Some are so nice they're like vacation resorts with a lot more social interaction than seniors normally have.
You get what you pay for.


Not always true. In general you'll do better with privately owned facilities rather than corporately owned ones. Just do your research and don't rely on how the facility presents itself.
 

pixelation

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Oct 26, 2017
3,548
I think the weirdest thing about this for me is a 72 year old having a girlfriend. I struggle to wrap my head around old people dating.

And yeah, she really didn't think this through. Why is prison any better than a home?
Same here... reallistically speaking they could've all just gone together no? (due to their age i mean, not that they all needed to).
 

Jest

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Oct 28, 2017
4,565
It really depends on the facility. Some are so nice they're like vacation resorts with a lot more social interaction than seniors normally have.
You get what you pay for.

That's typically Senior Villages not Care Homes. Senior Villages are typically the ones that are condos/small homes with lots of social activities. They're essentially senior communities and they don't focus on health care. Care homes are usually closer to hospitals, where the staff monitors medicines, changes diapers, assists with baths, etc... The former aren't bad because the population doesn't need to be cared for. It's Senior Club Med. The latter can vary greatly because the population needs extensive care and often aren't in the condition to speak out about how poorly they're being treated.