Only mildly ironic jokes in between the laser sword fights? Where can I fit in my MCU humor?
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi gets its first full Fan Edit
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Only mildly ironic jokes in between the laser sword fights? Where can I fit in my MCU humor?
... The Rose line is great though?
Even if you don't agree with it, it totally fits the start eyed idealist she is.
Some of these edits sound okay (the Canto Bight chase for instance), but a lot of them I just disagree with on principle.
Even if you don't agree with it, it totally fits the start eyed idealist she is.
Some of these edits sound okay (the Canto Bight chase for instance), but a lot of them I just disagree with on principle.
It does, sure, but this edit may have gone a little too far in some places.
You can cut the Canto Blight chase down without outright removing the thing that is critically important for the film's ending.
Without the deleted scene they're kind of just there for the occasional comic relief of Rey destroying their shit. I don't have a problem with them, but even when I watched the movie, it seemed that they had a purpose that wasn't shown (before I knew about the scene)
The movie was stylistically designed to be that way, but they could have diminished the effects of it.
I get the opening prank call joke was a bit much especially to start, but the caretakers, Porg stare, and especially the iron steam landing. How precious are you about Star Wars that Hardware Wars, a parody praised by Lucas, is too mean spirted and can't be referenced.
Why remove the caretakers? What did they ever do to you?
A shame the cut alternate Phasma confrontation wasn't added and the Leia Poppins scene was removed (but that would disrupt the flow of the film). Also, the part with Snoke berating Hux should have stayed... it showed how strong Snoke was with the force and how demanding he was.
I watched the film again last Sunday, and didn't find it nearly as bad as I remembered. It was actually mildly enjoyable.
A shame the cut alternate Phasma confrontation wasn't added and the Leia Poppins scene was removed (but that would disrupt the flow of the film). Also, the part with Snoke berating Hux should have stayed... it showed how strong Snoke was with the force and how demanding he was.
I watched the film again last Sunday, and didn't find it nearly as bad as I remembered. It was actually mildly enjoyable.
The caretakers are removed :/
So you just want all the cute alien shit out of the movie, huh?
Some Star Wars fans don't actually want Star Wars... they want Star Trek. There's your 100% serious human drama in space, people. No cute shit to bother you.
So you just want all the cute alien shit out of the movie, huh?
Some Star Wars fans don't actually want Star Wars... they want Star Trek. There's your 100% serious human drama in space, people. No cute shit to bother you.
It's especially weird when you see this edit being defended as still maintaining Johnson's intentions for the story...but it then outright goes against one of the big things he did.
Canto Bight should've been a city planet like Coruscant where Finn witnesses first hand what suffering and crazy laws the First Order has instituted. Make him choose the side of the Rebels rather than wasting time with DJ's lessons on moral ambiguity.
All the casino planet offers some animals being tortured and some child slaves but we don't care about their masters or whether they get punished. The enemy should have been the First Order, not some generic rich people.
Rose's lesson of "fighting for who we love" would've been stressed organically and might not have needed to be uttered at all.
Bah but now I'm discussing alternate takes, something that fan edits don't do. Just had to let this out somewhere, I guess. lol
All the casino planet offers some animals being tortured and some child slaves but we don't care about their masters or whether they get punished. The enemy should have been the First Order, not some generic rich people.
Rose's lesson of "fighting for who we love" would've been stressed organically and might not have needed to be uttered at all.
Bah but now I'm discussing alternate takes, something that fan edits don't do. Just had to let this out somewhere, I guess. lol
I agree. A lot of the problem I have with tlj is not the concepts, but how they're executed.
It has a lot of good ideas imo, but they're done poorly or not that well. Canto Bight in particular.
- Removed Hux being berated by Snoke at the end of the opening sequence
I always liked this scene. Snoke is great and seeing him humiliate his underlings showed he is a whole different type of sadistic leader.
Hate TLJ, but this sounds much better. This seems to get rid of the stuff I hated and focuses more on the stuff I liked.
I always liked this scene. Snoke is great and seeing him humiliate his underlings showed he is a whole different type of sadistic leader.
Hate TLJ, but this sounds much better. This seems to get rid of the stuff I hated and focuses more on the stuff I liked.
The problem with Rose's line at the end is not just the line in and of itself, but also the moment at which it was delivered. It feels inappropiate when in the background the Resistance is about to get killed by a giant laser gun. Not to mention that this whole scene is sandwiched between Holdo's and Luke's sacrifice, which make it seem like the movie doesn't actually know what is trying to say about the theme of sacrifice.
Ideally that whole moment would just not had happened, but it did so cutting out Rose's corny line is the best that can be done I guess.
I don't get a lot of other changes tho. Why get rid of the caretakers? Chewie's moment with the porgs was one of the best comedic moments of the movie, why mess with that? What's the point of changing the way the Falcon's entrance on Crait is edited? And since they included some deleted scenes, why not put Luke's third lesson back in? Or Finn's moment with Phasma?
Ideally that whole moment would just not had happened, but it did so cutting out Rose's corny line is the best that can be done I guess.
I don't get a lot of other changes tho. Why get rid of the caretakers? Chewie's moment with the porgs was one of the best comedic moments of the movie, why mess with that? What's the point of changing the way the Falcon's entrance on Crait is edited? And since they included some deleted scenes, why not put Luke's third lesson back in? Or Finn's moment with Phasma?
Pretty much. Something similar with Vader's pun in Rogue One for me. "Vader made jokes in the OT too!" Yeah but they weren't fucking stupid.
I think it's worth pointing out that SW films are generally the only ones who get fan edits.
That says a lot about some of the fanbase.
"He should have just died" means you completely missed the point of Rose saving him.
This doesn't make sense. Calling a film "pointless" is usually an empty critique that doesn't really mean anything.
The end line from Rose is deeply stupid though, when Holdo, minutes earlier, sacrified her life to save all of theirs (and minutes before Luke does just that), and of course in the background of her saying that, as she forces a kiss on Finn, the 12 remaining members of the Resistance are potentially burned to a crisp as the Ram fires on the base .
It's literally a farce imo.
Most of these changes I'm not opposed against tbh, except the one about Rey's parents. Nothing about that line seemingly clashes with TFA, for all we know the ship flying away in TFA with supposedly Rey's parents just went to a different place on Jakku.
Lies, Star Wars has some very good fan edits that return the OT to their somewhat original state.
If you don't like the line or the kiss, that's fine, but if we're talking about a fan edit with the explicit intention of improving the film, you better have a way of removing things without fucking up the flow, pacing or continuity.
As BossAttack said (hey, look, we agree again), people often don't think of these things and believe they're making improvements when they're not.
How do you show the base being blasted by the laser without showing the kiss.. Which is what the last like 15 min of the film led up to? And if you simply remove the line and not the kiss, Rose's kiss makes absolutely no sense at all and has no setup.
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Yep
"But the original trilogy had jokes as well!" ignoring the fact that just because something is a joke does not mean that something is a good joke.
Though the "stupid TLJ fans want their space adventure movie to be a serious drama," arguments are a lot worse purely because of how needlessly condescending they are.
They added nothing. With the deleted scene raid fake-out, sure the caretakers actually had a point, but without it, they're just kinda there.
Almost every line in the prequels is worse. Rose's line hammers home one of the main themes of the film. It works perfectly and is a great moment.
Its just a fan edit bruv. The movie equivalent of a videogame mod/romhack.
Lmao no it isn't. People actually laughed on my thirs viewing as she said that while the giant laser destroyed the rebel base.
I saw it four times and no one laughed in my theatres either.
That's kind of empty criticism. They are part of the world of Ach-To. Are the dancers in Jabba's Palace pointless because they're just kind of there? You could apply that to anything that doesn't contribute to the plot.
Not to mention they establish how the first Jedi temple is in such good condition despite the whole "for a thousand generations" duration.
