It's cheesy and cheese has no place in my movie about space wizards fighting space nazis.
Only mildly ironic jokes in between the laser sword fights? Where can I fit in my MCU humor?
It's cheesy and cheese has no place in my movie about space wizards fighting space nazis.
It does, sure, but this edit may have gone a little too far in some places.Man it's ok to like tlj and acknowledge that it has some mistakes.
Does it remove the nonsensical story where the New Empire doesn't jump ahead of the rebel fleet and in which Star Wars space ships are running out of gas?
Or the part where BBQ pilots an AT-ST and kills dozens of people? (Why are there any flesh and blood pilots if that's an option?)
Without the deleted scene they're kind of just there for the occasional comic relief of Rey destroying their shit. I don't have a problem with them, but even when I watched the movie, it seemed that they had a purpose that wasn't shown (before I knew about the scene)
It does, sure, but this edit may have gone a little too far in some places.
It's especially weird when you see this edit being defended as still maintaining Johnson's intentions for the story...but it then outright goes against one of the big things he did.The Rey's parents change just seems to be to keep the idea of them being alive?
I don't get it.
And?
Canto Bight should've been a city planet like Coruscant where Finn witnesses first hand what suffering and crazy laws the First Order has instituted. Make him choose the side of the Rebels rather than wasting time with DJ's lessons on moral ambiguity.
All the casino planet offers some animals being tortured and some child slaves but we don't care about their masters or whether they get punished. The enemy should have been the First Order, not some generic rich people.
Rose's lesson of "fighting for who we love" would've been stressed organically and might not have needed to be uttered at all.
Bah but now I'm discussing alternate takes, something that fan edits don't do. Just had to let this out somewhere, I guess. lol
Why not both?I agree. A lot of the problem I have with tlj is not the concepts, but how they're executed.
I'd be interested to check this out - I love TLJ but agree there's some weird comedy and pacing issues.
Pretty much. Something similar with Vader's pun in Rogue One for me. "Vader made jokes in the OT too!" Yeah but they weren't fucking stupid.It's like every defense of tlj is "but the ot did this thing that was similar!"
ignoring the fact that it what was there worked in that movie and what's in tlj doesn't
Man it's ok to like tlj and acknowledge that it has some mistakes.
The caretakers are removed :/
So you just want all the cute alien shit out of the movie, huh?
Some Star Wars fans don't actually want Star Wars... they want Star Trek. There's your 100% serious human drama in space, people. No cute shit to bother you.
I haven't seen a second of the edit, I completely agree with those last 2 points. Those scenes were just awful and Finn should have just died.
The end line from Rose is deeply stupid though, when Holdo, minutes earlier, sacrified her life to save all of theirs (and minutes before Luke does just that), and of course in the background of her saying that, as she forces a kiss on Finn, the 12 remaining members of the Resistance are potentially burned to a crisp as the Ram fires on the base .Most of these edits seem pointless to me. Especially Finn and Rose's moment at the end of the film, which is perfect.
Lies, Star Wars has some very good fan edits that return the OT to their somewhat original state.This sounds absolutely awful.
Fan edits are almost always terrible.
If you don't like the line or the kiss, that's fine, but if we're talking about a fan edit with the explicit intention of improving the film, you better have a way of removing things without fucking up the flow, pacing or continuity.Like I said, that whole scene should changed. She can still get across the same general message against hate, but the line itself and the kiss was just bad. I felt their relationship, as more than just friends, was poorly built up. I think it's akin to Anne Hathaway's love explanation in Interstellar (although that wasn't as bad). It's a point that I had no problem being made, but the way it was written was awkward
Oh boy. That movie is rotten to the core, no amount of editing can save it
It's like every defense of tlj is "but the ot did this thing that was similar!"
ignoring the fact that it what was there worked in that movie and what's in tlj doesn't
They added nothing. With the deleted scene raid fake-out, sure the caretakers actually had a point, but without it, they're just kinda there.
Lmao no it isn't. People actually laughed on my thirs viewing as she said that while the giant laser destroyed the rebel base.Almost every line in the prequels is worse. Rose's line hammers home one of the main themes of the film. It works perfectly and is a great moment.
I saw it three times and nobody laughed.Lmao no it isn't. People actually laughed on my thirs viewing as she said that while the giant laser destroyed the rebel base.
I saw it four times and no one laughed in my theatres either.
They added nothing. With the deleted scene raid fake-out, sure the caretakers actually had a point, but without it, they're just kinda there.
Except that's absolutely not a fact at allIt's like every defense of tlj is "but the ot did this thing that was similar!"
ignoring the fact that it what was there worked in that movie and what's in tlj doesn't
Not to mention they establish how the first Jedi temple is in such good condition despite the whole "for a thousand generations" duration.That's kind of empty criticism. They are part of the world of Ach-To. Are the dancers in Jabba's Palace pointless because they're just kind of there? You could apply that to anything that doesn't contribute to the plot.