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Star Wars: The Last Jedi gets its first full Fan Edit
- Thread starter Anth0ny
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oh i see, yea i didn't find it funny or entertaining personally
The Mary Poppins bit is fine, if I had the skills to do a fan edit, maybe the only change I would add is a more obvious force force field effect around her protecting her from space.
I think Phasma was another instance of the director setting fire, no pun intended, to stuff he didn't like or want to deal with. Her scenes were a complete waste of time and waste of a foil for Finn, which he desperately needed to stay relevant.
Finn could have developed a dynamic with his former tormentor that made his final battle with her mean something, make us feel something. Finn should have got his ass beat by Phasma on Takodana instead of Lieutenant TRAITOR! Then he trains some more or has some learning experiences before his fight in TLJ where he defeats Phasma. Instead the director says Fuck Phasma. She's sold enough toys and fuck JJ Abrams joke characters I'm not going to rehab this one.
Exactly what I was thinking, lol. So many nitpicky and passive-aggressive changes that seem meant to spite Rian Johnson's authorship. I'm so glad fans like this aren't in charge of the franchise.
I generally have liked the SW fan edits I've seen from Adywan and the Despecialized team.
This? This is trash.
This? This is trash.
I would have also liked Hal9000 to take a pass at removing the entire "BB8 saves the MF day by randomly piloting a walker". Execution looked wonky af.
Initially I thought this was to "nerf" Rey, but it sounds like it might just be for a cool intro shot with the Falcon.
That makes no sense because you just see the ties exploded, have no idea what did that and THEN you see the shadow. The shadow is already the intro.
This sounds kind of neat, I want to watch it just to see if it works. Unfortunately, most of my gripes with the film are things fan edits can't fix.
*Shrug*
I don't remember the specific shot and havent seen the edit, so idk. Maybe he really is just jelly of Rey's aiming skills then.
Would Finn's sacrifice even matter though? His guns were melted so he was riding on his rusty old ship being able to destroy the cannon by crashing into it. His plan was shortsighted and likely driven not by the desire to save the Rebellion, but rather to deal a blow to the First Order which he hates.
Kylo lost the battle by being distracted by his hatred and desire to destroy his old master. Phasma was killed, and likely lost a shit ton of her Stormtroopers because she wanted to kill Finn instead of focusing on escaping.
Hell, even looking back at Vader killing The Emperor, his intention wasn't to murder him out of anger or to end the war, but rather to save his son who was in the middle of a painful death.
I think her line was completely backed up by the themes of light and dark established by the OT.
I think Phasma is coming back on some Super Shredder type shit and she's going to kill someone important
Sounds like some good fixes all around except...
Why this? There was nothing particularly bad about that scene (she only kicked it twice).
Why this? There was nothing particularly bad about that scene (she only kicked it twice).
The hatred from bad faith places for this film makes this entire thing suspicious. I'd have been happy with shortening the ridiculously long casino planet.
Only the scream of white alpha masculinity being violated or something.
Sounds interesting but I think the best edit is going to come with Episode 9 is released and on DVD and someone can make a single movie out of Episodes 7-9. Assuming Ep9 isn't an absolute trainwreck I imagine you could make a decently compelling story, cutting out a lot from 7 & 8.
Ah then by extrapolation there was no mysoginist or racist organized backlash against the movie. I must have dreamed it all.
The first two films were lacking in "cute shit" and t was only put in the third (Ewoks) so they could sell kids action figures.
The first (best) two films in the series set the tone people want.
No one wants a toy company demanding screen time for pointless characters simply so they can sell you stuff to put on your book shelf.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about in the context of this thread. This is a fan edit in line with previous fan edits for the prequel trilogies.
I had problems with some of the comedy in the film (not because they were "lol just like mahvel", but because they were lame and unfunny), but why remove some of the neat small interactions like kicking the ladder and BB8 scurrying under a basket? Is a Star Wars film not allowed to be cute?
I sort of feel like the reasoning behind removing the caretakers is to have Luke in COMPLETE isolation, but yeah, the caretakers were completely harmless and I don't know why that needed to be cut.
Aside from that, the list of changes sound pretty neat. I'll check it out and see how it plays out.
I sort of feel like the reasoning behind removing the caretakers is to have Luke in COMPLETE isolation, but yeah, the caretakers were completely harmless and I don't know why that needed to be cut.
Aside from that, the list of changes sound pretty neat. I'll check it out and see how it plays out.
Oh there is no doubt those people existed. They're the loudest assholes right now as well and I want no part of them. What is annoying is the blanket idea that they're the only people that had an issue or dislike for The Last Jedi. That's something that has always bothered me from day one. I'm a black guy and I've had issues with this film and none of them have to do with Rey or Rose. I happen to like both of them. Yet time and time again my thoughts on this film and others that don't fit in with the racist assholes seem to be dismissed and ignored or you're wrongly assumed to be one them. The belief seems to be only those people are the ones with the problems and are complaining and everyone else is just fine with the film. There seems to be this push that there are no other groups that had/have issues with this damn film and maybe for other reasons. It's not a black/white issue and it pisses me off more and more.
You might as well be! I mean you hated the movie! How could you!?Just kidding I hated it too and I'm not white either but the apologists have to keep propagating this narrative.
I think there are some REALLY dumb criticisms and nitpicks directed at the film, but I really wish people would stop generalizing those who have a problem with/hated the movie as secretly alt right or some bullshit. Mind you... we're on ERA and the responses to the movie are still incredibly mixed for crying out loud.
There was one for the prequels. No one had any issue with those.
I don't approve of this one, R2 is staple Star Wars legend and Luke his best master
TLJ has some of the all-time standout scenes and dialogue in the entire saga, so whatever they can do to emphasize the impact those have is interesting. For me, they telegraphed Snoke's "surprise" death way too obviously so that's an ambitious edit opportunity that I'm curious to see.
My main issues with the film were structural, so I guess there's no edit that change the core Act 2 conceit of "one ship follows another with zero urgency".
In terms of pacing, I'm most intrigued by the idea of moving the Luke/Yoda scene towards the end and cutting from that straight to the establishing shot of Crait.
I'm curious how Canto Bight flows without the Trico chase. If they can make that work too, all for it.
The rest is really personal editorial so folks will obviously like or dislike. I wasn't sold on Finn's entire arc, Rose's character motivation, the shoehorned romance in the conclusion, or how Poe's random insubordination was executed.
The "save what we love" line is a nice premise that reminded me of the "love conquers all" line from Interstellar. It didn't feel thought out or earned, so it plays super clunky. Especially in the context of the end of the film.
I also wish Leia had played a more active role in the central act of the film, but I guess they shot what they had time to shoot.
My main issues with the film were structural, so I guess there's no edit that change the core Act 2 conceit of "one ship follows another with zero urgency".
In terms of pacing, I'm most intrigued by the idea of moving the Luke/Yoda scene towards the end and cutting from that straight to the establishing shot of Crait.
I'm curious how Canto Bight flows without the Trico chase. If they can make that work too, all for it.
The rest is really personal editorial so folks will obviously like or dislike. I wasn't sold on Finn's entire arc, Rose's character motivation, the shoehorned romance in the conclusion, or how Poe's random insubordination was executed.
The "save what we love" line is a nice premise that reminded me of the "love conquers all" line from Interstellar. It didn't feel thought out or earned, so it plays super clunky. Especially in the context of the end of the film.
I also wish Leia had played a more active role in the central act of the film, but I guess they shot what they had time to shoot.
Oh the fact that it removes that Save-What-We-Love nonsense is great, might want to check this one out.
Oh my GOD you guys, stop! The movie has issues but if it's not harassing actresses, it's making fan edits removing women, it's fans requesting through campaigns a full remake, its fans review bombing the movie, or its fans making a second fan edit. This got old fast. Move on already.
Its a little different when you're promoting a pirated edit of a movie that came out almost 20 years ago vs one that got a blu ray release 3 months ago.
Both are still wrong of course.
Some of these sound so oddly specific.
Disagree completely about Rey's parents line being cut. Dude, what's this fetish with SW fans and bloodlines? Why can't Rey not be the messiah from a skywalker or solo or whatever shitty bloodline they created?
This is so weird.
Disagree completely about Rey's parents line being cut. Dude, what's this fetish with SW fans and bloodlines? Why can't Rey not be the messiah from a skywalker or solo or whatever shitty bloodline they created?
This is so weird.
Yeah, I did not care for this movie. But, Rey being a nobody was the right fucking call. All the theories of her being a Kenobi, or a Skywalker, or a reincarnated Anakin... All fucking lame.
Rey's parentage is the best reveal in the movie and Rose's line is the primary theme of the entire film, so it sounds like yet more hack and slash fanedit wankery from people who didn't understand what they watched or are really stuck on the magic blood force power concept.
TLJ doesn't need anyone's help, unless somebody can CG in Billy Dee Williams over Benicio Del Toro's character.
The OP is not about any of those things. You're listing four awful things that happened and then conflating it with the fifth, which is a fan edit of legitimate interest to many.
Why are people endlessly trying to conflate the toxic, politicized sub-section of the fandom's reaction with legitimate criticism? Is this movie beyond criticism now? This is a discussion forum.
The OP is about a talented group of community editors who have been doing this for nearly two decades. It's not about beating up on actresses, or 4chan kids being triggered by purple hair.
This edit comes off as just a much more subtle way of appealing to the toxic elements of the fandom. Most of the changes are completely nonsensical.
You harped on and on about how people would defend the last jedi no matter what it was yet deny that there's a group that staunchly defends the heaping piles of shit that is the prequel trilogy?
I meanYou harped on and on about how people would defend the last jedi no matter what it was yet deny that there's a group that staunchly defends the heaping piles of shit that is the prequel trilogy?
There are staunch prequel defenders on this very forum and in almost every thread about the PT
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