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SoulCalibur VI Discussion Thread - Roster, Stages, Guests, DLC, etc
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Meh to Talim. I never particularly liked either her playstyle or design, and only ever used her to win mirror money matches against conquest scrubs. I guess it's good she's in, just because she seems popular.
Looking forward to the next reveal. It seems like now would be a good time for the other new character.
Looking forward to the next reveal. It seems like now would be a good time for the other new character.
Rothion seems like a pretty big indication of CAS characters used for story mode, which is great. Soul Calibur has a huge world and it's less interesting if it's just the 20 main characters that keep running into each other.
A bunch of the story points interweave so it's likely that those characters will fight at those points, but if it's just one of the playable characters, they probably fight an NPC.
A bunch of the story points interweave so it's likely that those characters will fight at those points, but if it's just one of the playable characters, they probably fight an NPC.
Lizardman is a monster, just like Astaroth. Stuff like them fit the fantastical setting of Soul Calibur like a glove. And again I am not too sure how Ivy is all that removed from Voldo's look.
I know what it means. I just think spelling it out like Z.W.E.I. makes it super odd and stand out JUST to be super odd and stand out. I am annoyed with the exact same thing with F.A.N.G. in Street Fighter V.
When Soul Calibur V launched me and a group of like 5 other people that played it locally together all initially assumed Z.W.E.I. was like one of the bonus characters made by guest artists from Soul Calibur IV, so I would say, yeah he is too weird.
I do not care if he has a bare chest or anything like that and I doubt most do. I have issue with his overly purple look, his Jojo Stand, lots of stuff. His design is just bonkers all around.
Tira's initial crazy green look stands out just about as much. Her weapon was pretty goofy too but it still sort of felt grounded to me in a way Z.W.E.I.'s does not. That said, I generally have liked Tira's redesigns a fair amount for the most part so I would like to see them take another stab at Z.W.E.I., especially with how confident some people here are that he has huge potential.
And I'm not too sure how ZWEI is all that removed from either of those two. In fact, he clearly looks more "normal" than Voldo.
I like what Talim is wearing, just needed another layer underneath :p
Anyone can tell if it's SC2 Talim or post-SC2 Talim?
Anyone can tell if it's SC2 Talim or post-SC2 Talim?
ZWEI and GROH are pretty similar for me if we're just talking about their visual direction - I'm not going to say they ruin the 'purity' of the franchise or anything with the Necrids and crossover characters running around; but designs like that which are centred less around historical fantasy archetypes and which feel like more interchangeable JRPG heroes that could appear in any setting appeal much less to me, and feel like they miss what can make the series interesting and set it apart.
I feel it's a bit like comparing Kojima Castlevania designs to Aeon from Judgment.
I feel it's a bit like comparing Kojima Castlevania designs to Aeon from Judgment.
I dont think Cassandra will be in the game cause we have Sophitia but Tira is 100% in.
Spot on! Could not have said it better myself.
I wish we could have something more visually consistent like Soul Calibur 1, but at the end of the day, custom costumes and characters pretty much already impact the design in a way we almost all already accept. At least the majority of the designs this time are pretty sensible. We even have a guest character that sorta fits now!
Please stop trying to argue that everybody who dislikes Zwei loves every single other design in the series. Ivy's defaults (though I quite like her 1 and 2 2Ps) and some of Tira's worse costumes are in a similar boat, but I don't see how that justifies wanting to bring everyone down to that level.
But people were never this vocal about either of those designs in the past, and still aren't. But ZWEI seems to have become some poster boy for "not fitting in" with the rest of the cast. He is not that different from other characters dating way back whom people supposedly also think "don't fit in". ZWEI clearly has his own fanbase, why rain on their parade? :/
I personally stopped at "Tira's weapon sort of felt grounded to me". That's when rational talking points left the room, locked the door behind them, and set the building on fire.
Talim, yeay. There is really only going to be 2+1 new characters and that will be it, eh.
This is going to be the fighting game with the least new characters in recent memory. Even Cross Tag Battle, a festival of reused assets, had 4.
Talim, yeay. There is really only going to be 2+1 new characters and that will be it, eh.
This is going to be the fighting game with the least new characters in recent memory. Even Cross Tag Battle, a festival of reused assets, had 4.
eh I can see how Tira's weapon feels grounded. Its an oversized Chakram. Considering some of the weird weapons that have existed throughout history, making an oversized version of a smaller weapon is not that crazy all things considered
With Talim added, leaning toward a "yes" now regarding getting this. Should confirmations more or less continue to align with leaks and Cassandra is announced, then I'll be satisfied. Raphael would be nice as well in order to have a fencer if they were to add Amy but as Viola instead, but I'm not counting on it.
Never stopped them from including both before once she debuted (particularly when there's enough of a difference in how they play).
As I said the idea behind the weapon isn't that crazy and using it as a hula hoop ring is a creative way of incorporating how chakram were handled
What? Most recent fighting games have been pretty poorly marketed. SC6 and DBFZ are just two of the culprits. They could be doing a lot more than they currently are to maintain interest between events and character reveals.
I don't really care much about design. I care about how the character plays. ZWEI is unique and fun to play as. He was extremely low tier, but a few minor changes and he's a solid mid-tier.
I like characters that are more unique and stand out from the rest of the cast. Yoshi is my main, being one of the few stance-based characters in the game. I picked up ZWEI as my secondary because he also played very different from everyone else, and I liked the stand gameplay.
Groh plays nothing like ZWEI. Play style is more important than visual appeal when you're talking about one character replacing another.
He's also Patroklos' father. While my money would be on him as a CAC, as you stated, I don't think it's out of the question for him to take on Patroklos' move set. Unlikely since I don't think Namco would accidentally reveal him like this, but I wouldn't be super surprised. I would just hope that isn't counted as the second new character.
Probably CaS though...
I dont remember where I read it but it was about not wanting similar characters. So Kilik would rule out Mina and Sophitia would rule out Cassandra. Nightmare and Sieg were different enough to be both included though.
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Mina/Kilik and Sophitia/Cass are just as different as NM/Sieg.
Off the top of my head Mina in SCIV has the same (not counting basic ABKs):
1A (Kiliks 2A+K)
6A+B (Mina's is 3 hits compared to Kilik's being 5 or 6)
3A+B
1A+B
2A+K (Kilik has this as a different input)
4A+K
11A
44AA
33KB (Kilik has this strung to one of his kicks)
44K
This also has nothing to do with overall gameplan either.
The only useful moves being 3A+B, 1A+B, 11A, and 44K. She plays nothing like Kilik. Cass shares little with Soph as well. They play different enough to warrant them being in another game and with characters getting lots of new moves in this game, they might not even share any.
Off the top of my head Mina in SCIV has the same (not counting basic ABKs):
1A (Kiliks 2A+K)
6A+B (Mina's is 3 hits compared to Kilik's being 5 or 6)
3A+B
1A+B
2A+K (Kilik has this as a different input)
4A+K
11A
44AA
33KB (Kilik has this strung to one of his kicks)
44K
This also has nothing to do with overall gameplan either.
The only useful moves being 3A+B, 1A+B, 11A, and 44K. She plays nothing like Kilik. Cass shares little with Soph as well. They play different enough to warrant them being in another game and with characters getting lots of new moves in this game, they might not even share any.
Well, I mean it is a real weapon, just used in a bunch of goofy (read: stupid) ways.
As much negativity Soul Calibur has gotten since III for it's new characters, at least we can all pretty easily agree Namco's other 3D fighter has it a lot worse in that regard.
Oh yeah absolutely, I just mean from a design perspective he seems to be cut from the same cloth. Would not be shocked if it was revealed that he was designed by the same core exact group of people as Z.W.E.I.
Yes, looks like a brothel NPC.
Maxi on the otherhand, his clothes are from the same shop as Zwei's.
Ignoring replacements: 2 added 3, 3 added 3, 4 added 2, 5 added 2.
You don't jump on your katana either.
Only Maxi's blonde alternate costumes ever really stood out as weird to me, as far as that character goes. That alt looks sick as hell in SCVI though.
I feel like of that list, only Seung Mina has a significant chance at returning for this game. I would personally love to see Rock, but I feel like they never really gave him a mechanical identity that was all that notable compared to Astaroth.
Talim! Don't like that outfit though. SC2's got my faves:
Never liked the big headress motif.
Though I really like this one from SC3:
Never liked the big headress motif.
I'm still not convinced, particularly with how the base roster has been playing out in relation to the leaks. Also, after the whole trapping her in an alternate dimension for 17 years crap as an excuse for her omission in V (which allowed for explaining why her niece and nephew turned out so poorly thanks to writing out the only other person who would've been around to raise them), I would be that much less forgiving of yet another absence.
Talim Japanese trailer.
SC5 added 3 new characters. Assuming you're counting Viola as an Amy replacement, we don't have confirmation they're the same character, but even if we did, they fight completely different.
I'm actually okay with 2 brand new characters + 2 guest characters, but it's a little disappointing that it doesn't look like we'll hit 30 total (unless we get a second round of DLC).
The entire roster has been a bunch of safe bets + Groh. So the only leak that has any merit is the very first one. Taking a look at that leak it doesn't seem very legit:
- Nintendo Switch port
- No Xbox One version
- Console-exclusive characters
- Character reveal around December 20
The 2 are Zwei and Viola. Are you counting guest characters or what? BD characters?
It depends what's a new characters to you. For example Patroklos is a new character, so is Aeon.
Are we counting the 4 characters Patroklos, Pyrrha, Alpha and Omega as pure Cass/Sophi replacements? That's extreme.
SC5 is a special case anyway, as some of the kids were quite different from the character they replaced (Natsu/Taki, at least).
I'd also add Dampierre to the new characters of SC5. He's from another game, but it's his first appearance in a main title.
SC5 is a special case anyway, as some of the kids were quite different from the character they replaced (Natsu/Taki, at least).
I'd also add Dampierre to the new characters of SC5. He's from another game, but it's his first appearance in a main title.
Are we not counting Pat as a new character? He's in the story in SC3, but I assume we're not counting that, right?
Watch him be completely covered up when revealed, just like most other male characters in this game.
The would suck. I was pretty happy when I saw that Ivy wasn't covered up so I'd be pretty upset if Cervantes was. I always joke that she got her assets from him.
They're probably gonna just make him a nasty zombie or something
If there is, it better be for both male and female characters :P
Yeah this. And if it has to be a returning character, I want Voldo or Setsuka.
Okubo going for fun over competitive. Not sure if old? https://www.vg247.com/2018/07/06/soulcalibur-6-interview-development-feedback-post-launch/amp/
I think the interview is new, but it's mostly info we got from E3. I think his statement really means, "Namco won't commit to an esports push until they see sales of the game."
It's pretty well-known that Namco doesn't have a lot of confidence in Soul Calibur at the moment (at least not compared to Tekken and DBFZ). It makes sense that they want to see how sales do first before announcing any kind of esports plans. It took them 6 months to announce Dragon Ball tournament plans.