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tommy7154

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Oct 25, 2017
5,370
If the guy threw a drink JUST FOR wearing MAGA hats then theyre just a bunch of idiots in one place at one time.

If the kids were saying racist crap theyre still a bunch of idiots, but I wouldnt blame the guy for losing his cool.
 

Enzom21

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,989
Eh clothing with political statements is a no go in my book .. same with political bumper stickers..
IMO I don't give a shit who you vote for just like I wouldn't think you give a shit who I vote for
Are you saying West couldn't possibly be a bigot? If so, why?
Seeing as how you ignored this, I am going to assume you think he can't be a bigot because he is black? So in your goofy little world, if a black person does something a racist does, that racist thing ceases to be racist.
 

Coyote Starrk

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
53,191
Maybe in your warped reality.. but no there aren't ~63,000,000 racists in America .. that is ludicrous

If you support Trump you are a racist and a bigot. There is no debating that. That is just a fact. Trump ran on a platform of homophobia, xenophobia and racism. Not just that he has been rather open about his racism since he took office as well.



If you support the GOP then you are in fact a racist.
 

RedMercury

Blue Venus
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Dec 24, 2017
17,665
Maybe in your warped reality.. but no there aren't ~63,000,000 racists in America .. that is ludicrous
There are *at least* 63 million people either racist or okay with racism, which is just racist anyways. 63 million is a conservative estimate. Our country was legitimately built on the backs of slaves. For one example, the Civil Rights Act was only 54 years ago dude, it's not even retirement age yet, racism is married to our culture like peanut butter is to jelly.
 

97_Mentality

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
301
If you support Trump you are a racist and a bigot. There is no debating that. That is just a fact. Trump ran on a platform of homophobia, xenophobia and racism. Not just that he has been rather open about his racism since he took office as well.



If you support the GOP then you are in fact a racist.
Like i said, maybe in your warped reality ... but good think most of the real world doesn't think like you and is made up of cooler heads

Just because you say it's fact doesn't make it so
 

Skelepuzzle

Member
Apr 17, 2018
6,119
Like i said, maybe in your warped reality ... but good think most of the real world doesn't think like you and is made up of cooler heads

Just because you say it's fact doesn't make it so

Trump wouldn't have been elected were this true and his support would have definitely dive bombed after the child concentration camps if it were.
 

JustinP

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Oct 25, 2017
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Juj

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
504
Like i said, maybe in your warped reality ... but good think most of the real world doesn't think like you and is made up of cooler heads

Just because you say it's fact doesn't make it so

You are a racist, yes you Mentality, if you voted for Trump. You are a racist if you support the GOP.
 

Caz

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
13,055
Canada
Like i said, maybe in your warped reality ... but good think most of the real world doesn't think like you and is made up of cooler heads

Just because you say it's fact doesn't make it so
Coyote is right. Even if we set aside everything that he's done in office (which we really REALLY shouldn't), you don't get to say you're not racist when your vote goes to a man who began his campaign by calling Mexicans rapists, thinks the Central Park Five are guilty, and has a history of making racist, anti-semitic, anti-LGBT and other xenophobic remarks, including his entry into politics that began with him saying that the previous president wasn't born in America.

Those people are, at the very least, complicit in Trump's racism. They did not care about the people, be they PoC, trans, etc. who would inevitably end up getting hurt or even killed by his administration when they made their decision at the ballot box. They absolutely should be scorned for that and then some.
The same goes for anyone who voted for Doug Ford.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Like i said, maybe in your warped reality ... but good think most of the real world doesn't think like you and is made up of cooler heads

Just because you say it's fact doesn't make it so
In what kind of warped reality does supporting a racist not make one a racist? You are supporting racism, at minimum. And the difference between racism and supporting racism is...umm......is there a difference?
 

Deleted member 18568

User requested account closure
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Oct 27, 2017
944
Whataburger employees all backed the kids and stated the attack was completely unprovoked.

That, plus the quote being rescinded, kinda seals it. Complete fake news. Hopefully people in this thread can stop repeating it. Pure libel against children - not even against adults!

The fact that the vast majority of this thread believed, without question, that a group of 16 year old boys would openly talk about murdering minorities in a family eatery is a truly troubling reflection of the US. At some point you have to question whether it sounds believable or not.

As no one with a healthy attitude towards their mental health is going to wade through 11 pages of shitslinging - can anyone confirm what the actual facts are and update the OP? There are radically different accounts going around.

Do we know if the kid was actually talking about hanging black people? Because that shit would prompt the same reaction from me or worse.

PS: Not interested in anyone's hot internet take based on a hat thanks.
 

Sai

Prophet of Truth
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
5,629
Chicago
old enough to make a political statement but not old enough to deal w/ the consequences of making that political statement ;(

goodnight, wasteboys
 

NightMarcher

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
530
Hawaii
I don't care what those kids were saying, that doesn't grant anyone license to get physical with them simply because they're disgusted by what they're saying. There's a huge line between talking shit and becoming physical. I will always oppose anyone who does the former and be one the side of those who oppose it as well, until the moment they believe they have the right to infringe on one's person physically because it affronts their fragile sensibilities. The cheering on in these threads always disgusts me.
 

nasirum

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Oct 25, 2017
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Somewhere
I don't care what those kids were saying, that doesn't grant anyone license to get physical with them simply because they're disgusted by what they're saying. There's a huge line between talking shit and becoming physical. I will always oppose anyone who does the former and be one the side of those who oppose it as well, until the moment they believe they have the right to infringe on one's person physically because it affronts their fragile sensibilities. The cheering on in these threads always disgusts me.

MAGA hat means white supremacist means that shit needs to be called out and shamed. These people need to feel reality come down on them.

They will eventually when the middle class is destroyed by the tariffs this idiot is throwing around, but until then I want public shaming with no end. Sick of this shit.
 

Kayla

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Oct 28, 2017
2,316
if you wear a MAGA hat in public you pretty much deserve what you get. I'm supposed to feel sympathy for a racist kid that got some soda splashed on his face?
 

Stinkles

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Oct 25, 2017
20,459
Grown ass man should know better.

But the hat is designed to provoke a response and Hunter knew that wearing a racist head-badge was LULZ right up until the ice went down his shirt.

But if you have a problem with speech then fight it with speech. Not soda.
 

NightMarcher

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Oct 29, 2017
530
Hawaii
MAGA hat means white supremacist means that shit needs to be called out and shamed. These people need to feel reality come down on them.

They will eventually when the middle class is destroyed by the tariffs this idiot is throwing around, but until then I want public shaming with no end. Sick of this shit.
Shamed sure, but not physically touched.
 

rsfour

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Oct 26, 2017
16,783
I don't care what those kids were saying, that doesn't grant anyone license to get physical with them simply because they're disgusted by what they're saying. There's a huge line between talking shit and becoming physical. I will always oppose anyone who does the former and be one the side of those who oppose it as well, until the moment they believe they have the right to infringe on one's person physically because it affronts their fragile sensibilities. The cheering on in these threads always disgusts me.

Oh man, can't wait for people feeling sorry for nazis having drinks thrown in their face.
 

Skelepuzzle

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Apr 17, 2018
6,119
I will always oppose anyone who does the former and be one the side of those who oppose it as well, until the moment they believe they have the right to infringe on one's person physically because it affronts their fragile sensibilities.

In this case the "fragile sensibility" is wanting black people to live.

How about you explain this one champ.
 

legacyzero

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
4,252
As much as I love watching Trump supporters and administration officials get fucking mocked in public places, I'm not sure I can endorse a kid getting assaulted. Y'all are gonna have to sell that shit to me.

Did he provoke it, outside of wearing a MAGA hat? OP says "racist remarks" was that confirmed? You'll have my backing then
 

Skelepuzzle

Member
Apr 17, 2018
6,119
As much as I love watching Trump supporters and administration officials get fucking mocked in public places, I'm not sure I can endorse a kid getting assaulted. Y'all are gonna have to sell that shit to me.

Did he provoke it, outside of wearing a MAGA hat? OP says "racist remarks" was that confirmed? You'll have my backing then

The witness, who has asked to remain anonymous, said he and his family saw the three teens involved in the video joking about "hanging blacks" and killing off minorities before the recorded attack occurred.

The man who spoke to KENS requested anonymity after he said his family, including his young children, were receiving death threats for speaking out about what they witnessed. He said he didn't see the attack, but did see an altercation inside of the Whataburger before deciding to leave with his family as things got heated.

"They were talking about for the Fourth of July hanging black people from trees, that that would be the perfect party," the witness claimed. "Hopefully, with Donald Trump within the next few years, we can celebrate a white country, a real country without blacks. Maybe we can deport them to Africa."

The witness said the teens mentioned that they wished the movie The Purge was real, but only against African Americans and Latinos.

"They said they wanted it to be legal for white people to kill any other race for the Fourth of July," the witness claimed.
 

Sowrong

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Oct 29, 2017
1,442
Genuine question, I notice in sexual harassment threads the slightest hints of victim blaming get an automatic ban. But in this thread, it's pretty much has gone unpunished, even though so many are implying it's his fault for getting assaulted because of what he's wearing. I also noticed in the xxxtentacionxxx thread, everyone was again at liberty to say it was his own fault for getting murdered due to the type of person he was. Is victim blaming just not allowed for people who are thought to be "one of us"? Or just not allowed for sexual assault, but ok for regular assault?
 

Downhome

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Oct 27, 2017
1,356
It's too bad that news site mentioned the "witness" and then went back and retracted that part of the story. It's impossible to really say much about it without the full story.

If it's true they were saying such horrible things then they are obvious scumbag kids. I still don't agree with what he did though.i don't think anything a bunch of kids say excuse an adult doing that. I'm totally not against them verbally confronting them though.

If the "witness" stuff isn't true, and the guy did it truly unprovoked and only because someone was wearing the hat then it's beyond ridiculous and totally unacceptable, kids or not, and he deserved to be fired and arrested. No one should be advocating for that sort of thing.
 

Skelepuzzle

Member
Apr 17, 2018
6,119
Genuine question, I notice in sexual harassment threads the slightest hints of victim blaming get an automatic ban. But in this thread, it's pretty much has gone unpunished, even though so many are implying it's his fault for getting assaulted because of what he's wearing. I also noticed in the xxxtentacionxxx thread, everyone was again at liberty to say it was his own fault for getting murdered due to the type of person he was. Is victim blaming just not allowed for people who are thought to be "one of us"? Or just not allowed for sexual assault, but ok for regular assault?

Hate speech is violence and it was met with violence.

The hat and speech do more harm than the drink. It was an intentional provocation. Keep the Klan hood off if you don't want trouble.
 

RedMercury

Blue Venus
Member
Dec 24, 2017
17,665
But if you have a problem with speech then fight it with speech. Not soda.
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We have virtually no limit on "speech" in this country, what you see above is considered speech. We cannot stand by using our voices and reasoning with nazi's and those who would seek to leave them in power. You only fight speech with speech when you are on a level playing field and both parties agree the problem can be solved by speech and are willing to *listen*, this is not the case today. You do not reason with nazi's, you stomp them out before the fire gets too large. You don't reason with racists or else our racism problem would be a hell of a lot smaller if that worked. You agitate, you disrupt, you don't allow yourself to be ignored or set aside. They certainly aren't gonna come to the table in good faith waiting to have a civil conversation.
Yep catch a cola bitch lol
I bet you can get that trending LZ

#catchacola
 

NightMarcher

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
530
Hawaii
Oh man, can't wait for people feeling sorry for nazis having drinks thrown in their face.

Their ideology is irrelevant to me. You don't get to get physical with someone simply because you cannot control your emotions. Confront them by talking, by screaming if necessary. Once anyone lays their hands or tosses something at them, they can fuck right off as far as I'm concerned. They've lost the battle at that instant.

In this case the "fragile sensibility" is wanting black people to live.

How about you explain this one champ.

Right, I'm OK with blacks being lynched and agree with white supremacy because I don't agree with physically assaulting someone for what they say. You got me.

The dog-piling predictably commences, and I'm not going to continue. You (and others) can label me a racist, Nazi sympathizer, and white supremacist all you want simply because I don't cheer people getting physical against those who espouse disgusting ideologies. That doesn't align me with any ideology, "champ", it desires the continuance of civility in a time where it is threatened the most and needs to be striven towards. Yes, I know all the Left's responses to this, none of their arguments I agree with, nor will I ever.
 

Vautrin

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
936
Ha that is amazing. What a hero. I hope this kind stuff never becomes actually physical though. That's what the right is waiting for and will win them another election I'm afraid..
 
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