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Ondor

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Imagine if this were Sidney Crosby and the Stars were like nope, sorry, Heiskanen is too precious to us. We'll have to pass.
 

megachao24

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Of course Karlsson gets traded within the division. But not Hoffman who ended up on a team on the other side of the state anyway.
 

Rocket Man

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1:1 how I felt two years ago

Ottawa is completely and utterly fucked right now.

Trading away their best player in history

Stone, the 2nd best player on the team, is in the exact same position as EK too. Highly doubt he will resign

Duchene as good as gone

Lost their best goalscorer cuz his GF is crazy

Awful coach and GM

Awful defense and goaltending (and team in general)

No first round pick

And most of all Eugene fucking Melnyk
 

Cake Boss

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Ottawa is completely and utterly fucked right now.

Trading away their best player in history

Stone, the 2nd best player on the team, is in the exact same position as EK too. Highly doubt he will resign

Duchene as good as gone

Lost their best goalscorer cuz his GF is crazy

Awful coach and GM

Awful defense and goaltending (and team in general)

No first round pick

And most of all Eugene fucking Melnyk

Oh BTW our assistant GM is jacking off on kids in Buffalo

The team might get sued

The team needs to take out loans in order to pay off loans

Our division getting stronger and we are essentially their farm team as they take away our star players.

Cody Ceci is going to be a #1 dman.
 

ElephantShell

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Ottawa is completely and utterly fucked right now.

Trading away their best player in history

Stone, the 2nd best player on the team, is in the exact same position as EK too. Highly doubt he will resign

Duchene as good as gone

Lost their best goalscorer cuz his GF is crazy

Awful coach and GM

Awful defense and goaltending (and team in general)

No first round pick

And most of all Eugene fucking Melnyk

Oh BTW our assistant GM is jacking off on kids in Buffalo

The team might get sued

The team needs to take out loans in order to pay off loans

Our division getting stronger and we are essentially their farm team as they take away our star players.

Cody Ceci is going to be a #1 dman.

Other than that though it's alright
 

Avitus

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Oct 25, 2017
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If Melnyk sells and the return from all the trades is good/pans out, Ottawa could be in a real good place a few years from now.
 

Ondor

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I'm really sorry this is happenig SensEra.

From a third party perspective though, seeing all these Leafs fans praying for the rodeo clowns in Dallas or George fucking McPhee to save them from Yzernos is killing me XD.
 

Abylim

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I'm really sorry this is happenig SensEra.

From a third party perspective though, seeing all these Leafs fans praying for the rodeo clowns in Dallas or George fucking McPhee to save them from Yzernos is killing me XD.

As a Leafs fan it is kinda annoying that Tampa keeps somehow getting these deals done. But in the same breath it is what it is.

I'm grateful my team is on the upswing and confident that we have the pieces to do some damage. Whether we follow through and actually do that is another thing obviously.
 

Yawnier

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I'm really sorry this is happenig SensEra.

From a third party perspective though, seeing all these Leafs fans praying for the rodeo clowns in Dallas or George fucking McPhee to save them from Yzernos is killing me XD.
Nill and McPhee are too scared to part with GENERATIONAL talents Cody Glass and Miro Heiskanen
 

illmatic

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It's about time these GMs stopped sitting on their asses. Just imagine how the SCF might have looked if Karlsson was playing for Vegas, but McPhee talked himself into believing that he didn't need him and who knows when their next shot of the Cup is gonna be. This could have been it and they missed their shot because they didn't wanna give up Glass or whatever.
 

Montresor

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Just fucking put us out of our misery already. We feel nothing already.

legitimately laughing at this post. Oh Cake Boss

What would Toronto need to give up to get Karlsson?

Would any of these be equal value? I'm not saying I want to do these trades by the way. Just curious.

Matthews one for one trade
Marner one for one trade
Nylander + 1st round pick
 
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DopeyFish

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legitimately laughing at this post. Oh Cake Boss

What would Toronto need to give up to get Karlsson?

I'm guessing it would have to be either Marner or Matthews plus a first round pick right?

2 first plus pick 3: Liljegren, Sandin, Grundstrom, Johnsson

Not worth it in my mind, our swedes are too beautiful
 

19 & 21

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Oct 25, 2017
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So for what it's worth Cake Boss some of our beat writers are alluding to the return on EK being really good potentially. Grain of salt but who knows.



 

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So realistically what would Tampa have to give up for this to work? How are they under the cap?
Staying under the cap this season wouldn't be difficult. Dumping Callahan would probably be enough. If they re-sign Karlsson, they would surely have to part ways with a few of their core pieces before next season to fit him and Kucherov.

Random internet speculation for return is Point, Sergachev + 1st. Seems like a lot, but who knows.
 

Abylim

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It's crazy. Even though it's not my team I gotta admit it would be amazing if they pull it off.

Will be fun to see how this coming season unfolds now for our division.
 
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The reports seem plausible given:

- Dorion is an idiot so he's more likely to take on players than picks
- Tampa needs to shed players/salary
 

ElephantShell

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It's gonna get really interesting when Karlsson wants that $11 million after next season and Kucherov is gonna want around 10.
 

Smiley90

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They'll trade the unbroken half of Stamkos' body to the Leafs, I heard he's always wanted to play with Tavares
 

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Dallas media using the "betting on Heiskanen" excuse for Nill's failure, absolutely incredible.

I'd say I'm looking forward to seeing the kid inevitably fail but the lack of accountability means it wouldn't even matter
 
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Hughes @ dev camp "showdown" tonight





Will be our fourth forward. Who cares if he can't play D

apparently he can tho

Boqvist is playing for the London Knights this year
Get him on that North American ice schooling kids for one year before he goes to the AHL, I guess

Dallas media using the "betting on Heiskanen" excuse for Nill's failure, absolutely incredible.

I'd say I'm looking forward to seeing the kid inevitably fail but the lack of accountability means it wouldn't even matter
Heiskanen is gonna be very good, dude

Dunno if Nill should be blamed. There were other pieces involved, too
 

mo60

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So the leafs have really strong offense now while the lightning's defense gets way stronger if karlsson turns out to be useful for the lightning. The lightning might win the cup in the upcoming season.
 

Abylim

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So the leafs have really strong offense now while the lightning's defense gets way stronger if karlsson turns out to be useful for the lightning. The lightning might win the cup in the upcoming season.

Yep. I still think the leafs are missing defense or defensively minded forwards. Doesn't mean we aren't contenders or whatever but it definitely bothers me still.

The bolts seem so complete already. Throwing Karlsson in is just absurd lol.
 

Greekboy™

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It's about time these GMs stopped sitting on their asses. Just imagine how the SCF might have looked if Karlsson was playing for Vegas, but McPhee talked himself into believing that he didn't need him and who knows when their next shot of the Cup is gonna be. This could have been it and they missed their shot because they didn't wanna give up Glass or whatever.

Gotta wonder how gun shy GMGM was after Erat for Forsberg plus nobody expected Vegas to go as far as they did. I'm sure if he had a crystal ball he would have pulled the trigger.
 
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