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Hollywood Duo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Movie never said Rey's parents are irrelevant. It said Rey's parents are nobodies. Having Rey's parents be part of her arc makes perfect sense.

Think about it. Where else is her arc going to go? Is she going to spend the entire third film training and force talking Kylo?
Her parents are dead. Maybe they'll be in a flashback but that seems kind of a waste.
 

Ushojax

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Oct 30, 2017
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She doesn't know who her a parents are either

She doesnt have the faintest clue about whether they were nobodies or not

I'm afraid it's the old "search your feelings, you know it to be true" thing. Deep down Rey always knew she was abandoned and she eventually she admits it. Her parents were nobodies who simply didn't care about her.

Thankfully you don't need to be from a special family to be a hero. That's the whole message of the movie. Rey, Finn, Holdo, Rose, etc are just people willing to fight for the cause. They don't need to be part of the Skywalker family to do that. The movie ends by implying that there are other nobodies out there who could become heroes too.
 

cdyhybrid

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Oct 25, 2017
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Movie never said Rey's parents are irrelevant. It said Rey's parents are nobodies. Having Rey's parents be part of her arc makes perfect sense.

Think about it. Where else is her arc going to go? Is she going to spend the entire third film training and force talking Kylo?
Maybe she spends the third film, I dunno, fighting Kylo and the First Order and learning more about the Force through her own exploration of it (with an assist from the Jedi texts).

Her parents being part of her arc only makes sense if they actually serve some purpose within the story. Which neither movie has even hinted at.
 

thecouncil

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Oct 29, 2017
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First, TFA tells us Rey is Luke's daughter, then TLJ tells us that Rey is a nobody and now 9 is trying to tell us that Rey's mom is actually somebody very famous: TV's Felicity Porter.

These movies have a real problem with figuring out what direction they want to go in.
 

SugarNoodles

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Nov 3, 2017
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Portland, OR
I don't actually think it would be a bad plot point to have Rey reconnect with her mother but that being said, the fact that people are already jumping to the conclusion that it's Rey's mom is exactly how people end up dissapointed. "But they hyped up Snoke so much!"
Reality: the character had 3 minutes of on screen time and existed purely as a hologram.
People need to stop implying that people were disappointed by Snoke just because of TFA's setup. TLJ confirmed word for word in the script that Snoke was responsible for turning Kylo to the dark side and then proceeded to do nothing with the information.
 

subpar spatula

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Oct 26, 2017
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The first Force user in history who has been influencing all eventd throughout history. This is done to distract the galaxy from learning there is nothing outside the galaxy and that they're all in the matrix and Zion is about to fall.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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Thankfully you don't need to be from a special family to be a hero. That's the whole message of the movie. Rey, Finn, Holdo, Rose, etc are just people willing to fight for the cause. They don't need to be part of the Skywalker family to do that. The movie ends by implying that there are other nobodies out there who could become heroes too.

That's the one and only thing I found weird about the sequel trilogy. I always thought Star Wars movies was about the Skywalkers.
 

Ryan.

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The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
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There's literally a section of SW fans that are stuck at this phase of Rey:
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Are there reports of people not believing that Vader was Luke's father when Empire Strikes Back came out?

I do know George had Yoda confirm that Vader was Luke's father in RotJ for the people who didn't believe ESB
 

UltraMagnus

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Oct 27, 2017
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Rey has a (drunken, nobody) mom (Keri Russell). Doesn't have a dad. Rey's mom will tell her that when she finds her. Dun dun dun.

She's a virgin birth, like Anakin.

That will be the twist. It's a space opera anyway.
 

MMarston

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Oct 27, 2017
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I didn't mind Holdo has a character, but i thought she looked ridiculous for someone who was supposed to be a commander.
The movie kinda comments on that with Poe expressing how she doesn't look like what her reputation would suggest. And I'm pretty sure the message there is "I'm commander and I can dress however the hell I want."
 
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ZeoVGM

ZeoVGM

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Oct 25, 2017
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You think J.J. Abrams gives a single shit about that? We entering Retcon City

Literally zero chance of that.

The only people who disliked that -- because it was actually the best option for the story -- are a small number of hardcore "fans."

JJ liked The Last Jedi. He liked what Rian did. Not only that but he is the type of guy to see the "backlash" and double down on certain things. So get ready for more Rose.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I'm afraid it's the old "search your feelings, you know it to be true" thing. Deep down Rey always knew she was abandoned and she eventually she admits it. Her parents were nobodies who simply didn't care about her.

Thankfully you don't need to be from a special family to be a hero. That's the whole message of the movie. Rey, Finn, Holdo, Rose, etc are just people willing to fight for the cause. They don't need to be part of the Skywalker family to do that. The movie ends by implying that there are other nobodies out there who could become heroes too.

The way Daisy delivered the line "they all be back someday" sounded like Rey was trying to delude herself into keeping hope. Like she knew they left her and weren't ever coming for her.
 

Mona

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Oct 30, 2017
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I'm afraid it's the old "search your feelings, you know it to be true" thing. Deep down Rey always knew she was abandoned and she eventually she admits it. Her parents were nobodies who simply didn't care about her.

Thankfully you don't need to be from a special family to be a hero. That's the whole message of the movie. Rey, Finn, Holdo, Rose, etc are just people willing to fight for the cause. They don't need to be part of the Skywalker family to do that. The movie ends by implying that there are other nobodies out there who could become heroes too.

So her parents could have been heroes?
 

UnknownSpirit

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Oct 25, 2017
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I really really really hope that JJ doesn't change Rey's origin.

I loved that RJ made her a nobody. Helps reinforce the idea. That anyone can be a hero.

It will annoy me to no end if it's changed to a "Just Kidding your a Skywalker"
 

SugarNoodles

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Nov 3, 2017
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Maybe she spends the third film, I dunno, fighting Kylo and the First Order and learning more about the Force through her own exploration of it (with an assist from the Jedi texts).

Her parents being part of her arc only makes sense if they actually serve some purpose within the story. Which neither movie has even hinted at.
That's not a character arc; it's an action sequence.
 

Surfinn

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Oct 25, 2017
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First, TFA tells us Rey is Luke's daughter, then TLJ tells us that Rey is a nobody and now 9 is trying to tell us that Rey's mom is actually somebody very famous: TV's Felicity Porter.

These movies have a real problem with figuring out what direction they want to go in.
This is why we can't have nice things
 

MagicHobo

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Oct 27, 2017
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"Your parents are Skywalkers" isn't a character arc either.
Word. If her parents were alive, it would be solely to demonstrate how far she has come. She started in denial in VII, then was still seeking answers (bargaining stage?) at the beginning of VIII. She was still not fully in the acceptance stage by the end of VIII but ready to admit they were nobody. In IX she can demonstrate acceptance/forgiveness and that she can move on. Pretty standard, but a realistic story and a genuine conclusion to her arc. Doesn't necessarily need her parent's to be alive though, it can occur as a vision, as a visit to a grave, or simply by demonstrating through her actions.
 
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SugarNoodles

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Nov 3, 2017
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Those are one and the same though.
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There are so many things they could do for Rey besides focus on her parentage when she as a person has moved past it. The FO is the priority.
Isn't it kind of ridiculous to say that she's moved past it as a person when TLJ took place over like 72 hours and it didn't even get wrapped up? What does she do or say to actually indicate that she's moved past it?
 
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ZeoVGM

ZeoVGM

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Oct 25, 2017
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I know nothing about what JJ actually thinks, but let's be clear that there is no world where JJ says "I didn't like TLJ" and comes out unscathed.

Well, we know because he said it.

If you're going to then say, "He might be lying," you're just building your own narrative.

He was also aware of what Rian was going to do before he did it. If JJ had an issue with what Rian did, he wouldn't come back to the franchise to "clean up" after. He's above that point in his career.