SLEEVE EVERYTHING! NO MATTER WHAT!
My ocd feels weird when some cards are sleeved and the rest aren't.
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Board Gaming Era |OT| (Mostly) Unplugged Gaming
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SLEEVE EVERYTHING! NO MATTER WHAT!
My ocd feels weird when some cards are sleeved and the rest aren't.
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I used to be that way. I'd even go so far as to sleeve reference and play-aid cards. Now I only sleeve games that I play a lot, and deckbuilders. I've got so many games that I've only played once or twice, so it doesn't make sense to spend the extra money to sleeve those games if the cards aren't going to see any wear.
I generally agree with that, I'm not sleeving something like Medici the card game or no thanks even though I play the latter a ton because those cards are cheap and replacable. I'm going all in to sleeve 7th continent just because the game is so expensive and replacing any of the cards would be a nightmare even if I only touch a card once over the entire life of playing the game.
Deck builders, lcg, and tcgs get the priority for sleeving. I also sleeve games for younger kids because I don't trust them to not bend and damage the cards hence sleeving weird games like ice cool and king of tokyo.
Yeah I never sleeve anything, too. Lol. I can still sleeve when the cards get too much use ;) But I never had to for now.
@7th contintent: I decided against it now. I still have Mage Knight to really delve into and the upcoming Escape the Dark Castle seems more like my kind of setting and is better suited for short sessions with friends.
but then what would I do with the 1400 sleeves it comes with
didn't think about that did ya :P
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BoardgameERA, I require your assistance. I'm in the market for shelving units for smaller games. I'm talking mostly card games. I have one 5x5 Kallax for my board games and am getting a second one of those plus an IVAR set to store the rest of my games. None of those are great for smaller games, though, and I'm really not sure what to look for to put those on. How do you store your smaller games?
Additionally, I built a slightly modified version of this that isn't wargaming specific for my game room.
http://web.archive.org/web/20081006134308/http://www.drunkdwarves.com/?p=200
I removed the bottom beams so that people can sit around, but I don't have any chairs yet. I'd love some recommendations for chairs if anyone has some.
Additionally, I built a slightly modified version of this that isn't wargaming specific for my game room.
http://web.archive.org/web/20081006134308/http://www.drunkdwarves.com/?p=200
I removed the bottom beams so that people can sit around, but I don't have any chairs yet. I'd love some recommendations for chairs if anyone has some.
I found this at a local Goodwill for $3.99 and I decided took get it after checking to make sure it had everything.
I've never heard of it and I was wondering if anyone has played it and what they thought of it.
Vikings? It's a decent, inoffensive almost-abstract of buying and placing tiles in a shared grid. I wouldn't refuse to play it if someone put it on the table, but I wouldn't suggest it either.
I use Ikea's Besta for all my boardgame storage. The great thing about Besta is that you can create your own custom setup on their website, so it's easy to make something for small games as well.
Here's my shelfie, with the small games on top:
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IKEA makes several accessories for the Kallax that might work. I bought a couple of their "two drawer" inserts to house my small games. They also make shelf dividers as well.
Double drawers insert
Shelf divider
if you're curious about the size of the drawers, you can put blurays in them spine side up and they fit, with room around them to slide around so thats a decent amount of space for small games without it being too much I think
What I have on the wall is 2 of these https://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/60221683/
The shelves are height adjustable and I just have one set to as small an opening as you can get. That's tall enough for forbidden island and a copy of hero realms on top, or drop mix with love letter on top, just so you can get a height idea.
The version with the drawers are pretty good sized too for storing stuff like that(looking at them in the store, we dont have the drawers athome)
https://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S19931865/
Finally got a chance to try two escape room games
Exit The Game: The Abandoned Lab
Unlock: The Nautilus Trap
While I preferred the set up and general game layout of the Unlock game over Exit, the abandoned lab was a much better game/experience then Nautilus Trap. Nautilus trap had some very frustrating puzzles and moments where either it wasn't obvious there was a puzzle to solve, or it wasn't clear if we were missing something or just being bad. Abandoned Lab was perhaps a bit too linear for it's own good, and it being a game with zero resale/replay value is a disappointment. That said the puzzles were largely clever and we rarely got completely stumped and the linear design meant we didn't have to research the whole game to find the thing we missed.
I look forward to playing more of both series and trying out even more escape room games. The worst sin unlock did was give me a mini time stories taste and it just made me long for the next scenario.
Exit The Game: The Abandoned Lab
Unlock: The Nautilus Trap
While I preferred the set up and general game layout of the Unlock game over Exit, the abandoned lab was a much better game/experience then Nautilus Trap. Nautilus trap had some very frustrating puzzles and moments where either it wasn't obvious there was a puzzle to solve, or it wasn't clear if we were missing something or just being bad. Abandoned Lab was perhaps a bit too linear for it's own good, and it being a game with zero resale/replay value is a disappointment. That said the puzzles were largely clever and we rarely got completely stumped and the linear design meant we didn't have to research the whole game to find the thing we missed.
I look forward to playing more of both series and trying out even more escape room games. The worst sin unlock did was give me a mini time stories taste and it just made me long for the next scenario.
Been a while since I posted here:
- Got my gaming group of mostly newbies in a comfortable state to play games like Ticket to Ride or Nations the Dice Game. The longer time requirements are sometimes a barrier. Though I've been getting a bunch of new people lately due to school holiday (possibly) and usually I'm the only one comfortable/capable of teaching games so we end with party games for ~10 players. Need more regulars.
- Bought Azul and it's as pretty and fun as I expected it to be. Pretty short too.
- Successfully taught Cosmic Encounter to my cousins in the most accidentally awkward way possible, didn't even go through a full game yet lol.
- Village remains the only game I own that I have yet to break in. Not counting my possibly counterfeit copy of Mysterium that I've yet to send.
if you had asked I could have told you that was horrible.
Every other unlock game I have played has been way better, that one was horrible.
clearly designed by someone who thought they were being clever but had no idea how to design decent puzzles.
I played with a group of 6 people with college degrees. one of which has an English masters.
We had never heard of the word to one of the puzzles.
we figured out the puzzle in like 30 seconds, but we lost like 10 minutes because as far as we were concerned our answer wasn't a real word :/
We had never heard of the word to one of the puzzles.
we figured out the puzzle in like 30 seconds, but we lost like 10 minutes because as far as we were concerned our answer wasn't a real word :/
We had a family board game night last night. On deck was Boss Monster, Splendor, Smash Up, and a final game of Farkle. All of them are very light games. Ending with Farkle is kind of a tradition for us because it's such a good palate cleanser. I won both games of Boss Monster, my oldest daughter won both games of Splendor, my youngest daughter won the single game of Smash Up we played, and my wife creamed us all in two games of Farkle. It's nice when the wins are distributed among the whole family, lol.
Had an annual BBQ hosted by a mate down the road from myself with 14 hours of gaming:- Dungeonquest, GKR: Heavy Hitters, Lowlands and Ethnos got played.
Feeling it today.
Everyone should buy GKR though- it's not often Cryptozoic put out a good game, but holy shit, this one is incredible. Lowlands was rather good too, totally see why No Pun & SU&SD are losing their shit over it.
Feeling it today.
Everyone should buy GKR though- it's not often Cryptozoic put out a good game, but holy shit, this one is incredible. Lowlands was rather good too, totally see why No Pun & SU&SD are losing their shit over it.
I sleeve everything except where sleeves negatively affect the game.
Example, Tiny Epic Quest, I decided not to sleeve the map cards since that would interfere with the map connecting together. Also, these cards see little use and aren't drawn from a deck or shuffled.
Do cards feel better without sleeves? Yeah, I'll give the edge to sleeveless, but people like to fiddle with cards. They fiddle and poke and scrape and tap, and god, they will bend, especially if you play with young people or non gamers.
There's also this urge people have to treat cards in a game like they would a dollar store deck of poker cards. They just can't resist. It's easier to just sleeve the card. Then you don't have to worry about it, and the thickness encourages people to handle cards with more care somehow. More like they're handling something solid and less like a flimsy piece of grass to flap around for fun.
Example, Tiny Epic Quest, I decided not to sleeve the map cards since that would interfere with the map connecting together. Also, these cards see little use and aren't drawn from a deck or shuffled.
Do cards feel better without sleeves? Yeah, I'll give the edge to sleeveless, but people like to fiddle with cards. They fiddle and poke and scrape and tap, and god, they will bend, especially if you play with young people or non gamers.
There's also this urge people have to treat cards in a game like they would a dollar store deck of poker cards. They just can't resist. It's easier to just sleeve the card. Then you don't have to worry about it, and the thickness encourages people to handle cards with more care somehow. More like they're handling something solid and less like a flimsy piece of grass to flap around for fun.
Ugh, think I hit my breaking point for KS games, at least ones with minis. I never really backed too many big mini games but Nemesis is at its final post-KS fundraising manager thingy and the shipping on these games are getting crazy. Base game + shipping is about $120. Just thinking about it, I wouldn't spend that much money on a single game unless it was Star Wars Rebellion 2.
Might look into thunderstone quest with the expansion and base going to kick starter next week. Competitive deck builder that captures the feel of a fantasy adventure game.
How deep you want to go? Zombicide (I like the Black Plague version) has characters that can level up, get skills, loot, etc. Mansions of Madness has an app that kind of functions as a DM.
Mage Knight and Gloomhaven go a bit deeper down the rabbit hole, as progress can carry over between game sessions.
I've been playing Legends of Andor the past two weekends and it's a lot of fun. I like the fantasy adventure theme, and the core of the gameplay being a euro efficiency puzzle. We've been playing 2p coop each controlling 2 heroes, and it's been a pretty good challenge.
There is a 'love it or hate it' (I'm on the love side) design mechanic where the narrator will advance (basically shortening your time limit) whenever you kill an enemy, all while you have to make sure the castle you are defending doesn't get overwhelmed by enemies. So you have to really plan out your moves for the day, coordinating between the heroes and calculating enemy movement, deciding which ones need to be taken out and which ones you can safely ignore. Some people don't like it because they like to beat up all enemies in their way in their fantasy game, but I think it's a brilliant design.
There is a 'love it or hate it' (I'm on the love side) design mechanic where the narrator will advance (basically shortening your time limit) whenever you kill an enemy, all while you have to make sure the castle you are defending doesn't get overwhelmed by enemies. So you have to really plan out your moves for the day, coordinating between the heroes and calculating enemy movement, deciding which ones need to be taken out and which ones you can safely ignore. Some people don't like it because they like to beat up all enemies in their way in their fantasy game, but I think it's a brilliant design.
I feel like there are a bunch of these.
Mice & Mystics, Galaxy Defenders (more combat heavy and modern/sci-fi), Gloomhaven, Imperial Assault with the App, Mansions of Madness 2nd Edition (App), and more that I can't think of.
As much as I love it, I wouldn't suggest Mage Knight as an "adventure-y tabletop game that doesn't need a GM". Yes, you fight monsters, gain loot and get stronger, but it's more much abstract than it what you get in a typical adventure game. Plus, the core gameplay is less performing heroic feats than it is trying to figure out how to most efficiently utilize the resources you have available to make as much forward progress as you can. I'm also not remembering a mode that carries progress from session to session.
Gloomhaven is an excellent choice, and I would also suggest Swords & Sorcery as a somewhat lighter version of the same type of experience (leveling up over multiple sessions, story-based missions, etc.).
Zombicide Black Plague is good, but I'd say that Massive Darkness would be a better fit for what the OP described. In Zombicide, you play as multiple characters, because they can die very easily due to bad luck. Massive Darkness has you only control one character each(the game scales to fit), and while you can die easily early in the game, you have 'lives' that can keep you going, and by the end of a session you tend to be pretty OP, with tons of powerful gear (it's kind of a boardgame version of Diablo). Technically it has a campaign mode, but it's an afterthought and doesn't seem to work very well.
You are right - I completely misspoke. I've heard good things about Massive Darkness; I'll have to check that one out.
I was just on the late pledge page with my payment info filled out but couldn't bring myself to hit place order. It looks like a neat game but it's just getting too expensive for a bunch of minis I don't care much about. Give me a cheaper version with standees and I'd probably be down with it.
I have everything for MD (including the Elementals on special order). It's a cool game that does indeed carry from session to session. But it's a bit too easy after like, 1-2 missions.
I would say the single best dungeon crawl that doesn't require a DM would be Shadows of Brimstone.
But you have to build the SoB minis! I kid, but it is something that not everyone is ready for. I wasn't ready for the game. Last time I played, couldn't get past the first tile because zombies, couldn't hit a single one of them.
Eclipse: Second Dawn for the Galaxy (or just Second Edition) has launched on Kickstarter.
Think I am definitely jumping on this one.
Think I am definitely jumping on this one.
I was waiting for this but I am hesitant now that I see it. I don't know if I need the extra ships plus stretch goals for another $50 and then if that is the case, why not wait until retail as there are no exclusives. The KS page isn't very clear on the $50 bonus expansion for the higher pledge.
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On the topic of sleeving, I used to be pretty obsessive about the conditions of my games but after a few years of collecting and playing I stopped caring all that much, unless it's rare/OOP/gets shuffled constantly. A little wear and tear on the box or a few pieces is not really a big deal. It's hardly worth the headache of trying to keep everything pristine, the frustration when something takes a little wear, or the cost of sleeving/protecting components.
If a game just gets fucking destroyed years down the line, I'll get another copy.
If a game just gets fucking destroyed years down the line, I'll get another copy.
I'm fine with that for things that are cheap and can be replaced.
I tend to have a bunch of games that cost $80, took like 4 months to print, are permanently out of print and imported from Europe, or something else.
I agree except years down the line, good chance you won't be able to replace a game.
last month I spent a weekend sleeving roughly 1800 cards for various games and thought "what the fuck am I doing" but I can't stop now
I haven't even touched sentinels of the multiverse or any of the legendary stuff
Depends on the game. But sure, if I don't think something will be replaceable then I'll try to treat it more carefully/protect it
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Don't get Massive Darkness. It's super boring there are so many great dungeon crawl gamea even old one like Descent is better than Massive Darkness.
One thing I do like about Massive Darkness is the amount of loot that exists. It makes it feel very "Diablo-like", which isn't something I've found in other dungeon crawls. I do agree that mechanically it leaves a lot to be desired.
Some information about the Transformers CCG. Not too much about the gameplay, but the cards look nice. Odd that there's no flavor text, apparently.
I love Eclipse, but just can't persuade myself to double dip on this. :/
Now Snowdonia? That's mine. There's a nice group buy getting organised locally to cut the cost significantly.
There are loads, and it's easy to make the mistake of buying too many. You only need Gloomhaven. It's the best of its kind, and will keep you going for years with its lenghty campaign.
Gloomhaven is good, but I bought and sold it twice. It's absolutely not for everyone. I'd say it's worth watching some videos of the combat and mechanics a few times before pulling the trigger.
Gloomhaven made me pretty much stop playing and getting all other dungeon crawl games, that said Gloomhaven is pretty involve and if you are looking for quick game this is not it. Also if you are more into dice chucking and monster killings you might not find Gloomhaven to be your cup of tea.