I thought it was agreed upon that we pretend this didn't happen. :)
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Star Trek Discovery |OT| To Boldly go into the new streaming era
- Thread starter berzeli
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I thought it was agreed upon that we pretend this didn't happen. :)
What about the best of the best...
Honestly those uniforms wouldn't look that bad (just bland) without the weird beltless belt buckle thing. What the fuck is that thing anyway?
This show is just getting better and better, I'm loving it. A new direction for Star Trek but one I'm happy with. I know the spore drive is completely silly and doomed as a method of transportation due to the continuity but it's so sick - that sequence in the new episode with the consecutive jumps was crazy. And Captain Lorca is definitely my favorite character, it's just exciting to have a Captain whose motives aren't clear. Even if he turns out evil he's still cool.
My issue with this is that other than the pants it looks like a strict progression from good to bad. Mock turtleneck on the right wasn't good when they first started doing it and it's not good now.If you know where you saw that I'd be appreciative. I do hope so.
Maybe something like this? Start, middle, end?
DS9 and TNG had totally different uniform designs despite being set concurrently, I say just let sleeping dogs lie on this front.
Yeah my pic is not necessarily the right way to go about it but it's an idea that I think is worth exploring in a general sense.
Hehe.The ship fight was really something
The ship battle was awesome.
Didn't they first appear in First Contact? DS9 followed soon after that during season 5.
The Discovery's saucer section rotating when preparing for a jump is seriously giving me Stargate vibes.
Those uniforms were indeed made for First Contact, and then DS9 picked them up.
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Starfleet_uniform_(2370s)
(They are my favourite Starfleet uniforms ever btw)
Those uniforms were indeed made for First Contact, and then DS9 picked them up.
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Starfleet_uniform_(2370s)
(They are my favourite Starfleet uniforms ever btw)
Hah I could see that.
Those were great.
Yeah, the Enterprise ones were good (and a good start) and I think the Discovery uniforms are great.
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Discovery's tech being too advanced isn't even a product of modern day expectations in most cases, it just a disregard and lack of respect for other Treks.
The holo communications for example, it not like TNG didn't have the holodeck 30 years ago and holograms are some new 2017 idea, and surely it's more work to film one person, then separately film the other, then combine them like are they having a conversation rather just have someone stand there for one scene together pretending to be a hologram.
No, it was a conscious decision by the creators that in the Trek universe main viewscreens and desk screens are how people communicate long distance and this was kept throughout DS9, Voyager and Enterprise.
I mean christ, it not like The Doctor being confined to sickbay and the holodeck was a thing for 3 seasons of Voyager. Turns out 120 years prior holo emitters were installed everywhere for regular communication.
Continuing the "moving parts" gimmick started by Voyager and followed on by the JJPrise... I'm surprised the NX-01 didn't have any moving parts. :p
Or, filming, adding effects and compositing these new holograms is easier/cheaper than it was in 1987-2001.
Or that in 1987, having a video chat with your mum 10,000 miles away wasn't something we could do.
If in 50 years Star Trek TNG redux gets made and Geordie still has a hairband on his face I'm going to be pretty fucked off.
We clearly feel diametrically opposite about this issue lol.
Or that in 1987, having a video chat with your mum 10,000 miles away wasn't something we could do.
If in 50 years Star Trek TNG redux gets made and Geordie still has a hairband on his face I'm going to be pretty fucked off.
We clearly feel diametrically opposite about this issue lol.
It was subtle, but the fins on the warp nacelles extended out before going to warp.
Show is terrific. Cancelled CBS All Access until it's back.
But happy to pay and support it and show CBS I want more by turning on and off when it has new episodes.
Also I love that it's weekly for discussion purposes vs binging
But happy to pay and support it and show CBS I want more by turning on and off when it has new episodes.
Also I love that it's weekly for discussion purposes vs binging
Wuuut never noticed that and I've seen those movies a ton lol I'll have to watch out for it again
Might be a case of them not being out and then it cutting to them being out, so you don't see them move much. Probably a small thing that few are paying attention to most of the time.
Yep, that's the extended phase. I noticed it only after a few viewings lol, and I'm a starship nerd!
Also the dish, but that's more of a surface change.
lol never noticed that either, I think it's time for a rewatchYep, that's the extended phase. I noticed it only after a few viewings lol, and I'm a starship nerd!
Also the dish, but that's more of a surface change.
Come on now, the holograms in Discovery and the holograms in TNG-era Trek are at a completely different technological level, they have basically nothing in common. The former are just crude light projections, while the latter are almost perfect depictions of solid matter.
And as such, were easy and cheap to film, because its was actually just really there.
Yup you beat me to it.
Not only that, but notice how a lot of communications in the later episodes -- when the Klingon war is in full swing -- are on regular comms.
edit: As in, some are on regular comms, others are holo projections.
I'd just like to say that I've never been able to get into Star Trek, but I'm so hooked on this show that it's made me want to go back and watch other series. I love the lead too, she's so cool. Also Anthony Rapp is awesome—he was my least favorite at the beginning but now he's one of my favorites. What a great arc.
And yet people argue about consistence in technology in Trek series. News flash: it was never consistence. It was always contrived by the TV tech in the time they are filming. In the case of the holograms, do you think the writers intentions were to make them all live like in TNG? I am sure they may want to add some imperfections, but that cannot be filmed at the time. So the hologram technology is perfect in TNG. Not because it is a natural evolution of the tech, but "it is what we can do". Or the case of the teleporters. They are a major technology breakthrought, even more advanced than holograms or warp drivers. But they were introduced in TOS only because they could not film an auxiliary pod ship everytime a team had to go down in a planet.
I am happy to have the best looking and advanced in tech in a current Trek show because it is what a Trek show is supposed to be, not contrived by a almost 50 years old version of the show.
The show has only started, it's too early at this point to conclude that. I am willing to give them the benefit of doubt for now.
Hell, with the current cliffhanger we're not even sure if all that's happened so far hasn't been one huge misdirection to trick us into thinking that the show will be about something completely different than what it will turn out to be.
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Couldn't disagree more. New stories and characters please. Remakes are creatively bankrupt.
Yep. Tilly is the best <3
Hoping for some more from Officer Daft Punk in the second half, or second season. Also the officer with metal implants...I'm sure these were caused by Burnham beginning the war as they weren't there in the pilot, so there's scope for interest there.
I'd like to hope that they've maybe time travelled into the future of the TV timeline or something, but I hope they don't use this as an excuse to go "well now it's a totally different universe and we can do what the fuck we want without worrying about continuity" because there really doesn't need to be a third Star Trek timeline.
If they wanted to do whatever they want they should've made something set post-Nemesis rather than a prequel.
If they wanted to do whatever they want they should've made something set post-Nemesis rather than a prequel.
Yeah, my money is on the alternative timeline where Klingons have destroyed the station.
This is also their way of writing the Discovery out of mainline Trek canon. The ship is just gone in normalverse.
This is also their way of writing the Discovery out of mainline Trek canon. The ship is just gone in normalverse.
It won't be the Mirror Universe. In that Universe the Terran Empire weren't losing the war with the Klingons by any means, things only went to shit there after Kirk and Spock made mirror Spock into a wuss.
If they do choose to go the route of "Alternate timeline so nothing we do effects other Trek TV" it's going to seriously dampen my enjoyment. I don't want yet another Star Trek timeline. I could handle it with the reboot films, but this would just be pushing things too far I think.
If they do choose to go the route of "Alternate timeline so nothing we do effects other Trek TV" it's going to seriously dampen my enjoyment. I don't want yet another Star Trek timeline. I could handle it with the reboot films, but this would just be pushing things too far I think.
Exactly. The reason is probably so that could add stupid shit like Spock's secret sister and the inevitable Constitution class showcase so they point and say "See, it is important and links to TOS!!!!!"
Aside from them pulling a "It was an alt timeline all along" twist the benefit of the doubt has long sailed when it comes to sticking to canon and continuity.
Lol that's exactly what I was thinking.
Also the setup for the last jump was just stupid.It anyway almost killed the dude for the 133 other jumps, it was established that going at warp speeds was about 3 hours and during these scenes since the victory Michael had time to sleep so I imagine the 3 hours had already passed or was close.
I know it was needed as a plot device, but kinda silly.
Overall the show really picked up for me, was underwhelmed the first few episodes.
Been really enjoying this series and been watching every week. Even made me go back and start rewatching TNG from the begining and then I'm going to go onto DS9 (which I've never properly watched) and also rewatch Voyager (which shock horror is probably my favourite).
My only issue is that it's seriously made me crave a new Trek series not set prior to all the others! I want new story, characters and as futuristic as the Federation can get without the constraints of continuity, and I'm sure I'm not the only one!!
My only issue is that it's seriously made me crave a new Trek series not set prior to all the others! I want new story, characters and as futuristic as the Federation can get without the constraints of continuity, and I'm sure I'm not the only one!!
The impression I got is that Lorca probably did it on purpose. They intentionally showed him being the one setting the co-ordinates iirc, and they went out of their way to establish that he had been collecting data on parallel dimensions earlier in the episode
At the end dominion war, the federation is basically de facto rulers of the alpha quadrant.
Klingons allies and weak, cardassians crushed probably never be a power again, romulas destroyed, Borg destroyed.
Federation are to strong they'd have to set it a 100 years in the future or something.
Yeah. That's my interpretation too.
It was all part of his plan and there is still something we don't know about Lorca.