She looked like someone just shoved a lemon in her mouth at that jeer.
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The most emotion she has shown since being elected.
Corbs sticking the fucking boot in. Good job so far.
Holy shit that forced laugh she just did while Corbyn made his statement. What on earth is that even?
What exactly would Corbyn be doing to provide a good Brexit? Workers and business owners deserved better than the opposition supporting a policy that would totally fuck the UK regardless of who was piloting the ship.
Oh god Corbs.
"To be fair, and I want to be fair, I think they would have resigned on friday but without a phone and without a bus due to cuts caused by this government, they would have faced a long walk."
"To be fair, and I want to be fair, I think they would have resigned on friday but without a phone and without a bus due to cuts caused by this government, they would have faced a long walk."
It was the Penguin laugh 2.0.
The zombie Prime Minister is currently in the House of Commons giving HARD RHETORIC about how she'll never accept freedom of movement and that if the EU doesn't accept what she's NOW offering it'll be NO DEAL!
What worries me is that by keeping this hard line in public but conceding on everything, she's creating an expectation that would easily lead onto NO DEAL if she was to be replaced by any other candidate. And let's face it, she's on fucking thin ice.
What worries me is that by keeping this hard line in public but conceding on everything, she's creating an expectation that would easily lead onto NO DEAL if she was to be replaced by any other candidate. And let's face it, she's on fucking thin ice.
But he's against Freedom of Movement.
No Freedom of Movement means no Soft Brexit.
Corbyn wants Unicorns the same as Davis/Gove/JRM/Johnson. It's just Corbyn wants red unicorns instead of white unicorns.
He backtracked on other parts of his position too. On the face of it it seems like he sees the way the wind is blowing and it's Soft Brexit.
You can scrub back on here it has Indexes, you want somewhere around 15:33 before the Corbyn bit. Not sure if it's during the Statement or her section after that. It was near the end of whichever section it is though.
Wow TM saying we will end free movement, end jurisdiction of the ECJ come out of common agriculture and fishing policy too.
So is that basically a hard brexit?
So is that basically a hard brexit?
How do people not point out the corruption in the Leave campaign when they talk about what the people voted for?
No, because it's what the agreement on Friday already said. The "End jurisdiction of the ECJ" in particular is one that her plan for is completely insane. She wants to work with the ECJ but not actually answer to the ECJ. It's an absurd proposal that feels like is in there solely to be backed down on (which is generally how Tory negotiation tactics work.)
It's definitely not the most Soft Brexit it could be but it's not a Hard Brexit either. It's cherry picking and the EU will shoot it down.
That's the hope, right? Freedom of Movement seems like the one thing she wont back down on though, which is still incredibly limiting. It's why her proposal is a crazy beaurocratic nightmare to get around not being in the CU/SM.
So this chequers agreement that was put down at the weekend, could they turn up to the EU with this and they turn around and go "Nah, see ya"?
I said from the start UK will end up being a EU vassal with no say at all. Still sticking to it (atm)
Yep, in fact it's almost guaranteed given it's near identical to a similar proposal the EU already shot down months ago.
They will (or should for the sake of consistency and the EU mission in general), because the agreement excludes freedom of movement from the basic freedoms the EU defends and is the baseline for its existence (and why a lot of young people love it and rely on it, including myself).
Welp. Hope y'all were secretly wanting a No Deal Brexit.
Would a successful leadership challenge lead to a new election?
I think if there's a leadership contest the pressure to call for a GE is going to be immense. One PM without a public mandate (and then with one barely) is a big ask. Two is too far.
Not necessarily. Next step would be Tory MPs doing several rounds of voting on leadership candidates (May could and probably would run again, btw) until only two candidates remain. Then, the party members (not the MPs) vote between the two remaining candidates. Expect lots of behind-the-scenes fuckery and backstabbing, because the majority of Tory MPs certainly don't want Rees Mogg on that final ballot.
Calling a snap election is technically a completely separate process and would be up to Parliament.
Can there even be a no deal brexit? DUP would pull out of the agreement wouldn't they?
No Deal isn't something that needs to be voted on? If there's no deal decided by the deadline then there's no deal...
May is probably secretly hoping to get ousted and then go full on opposition to the new PM. Could be her way out without looking like the worst PM ever.
No deal is the default option. No need to vote
I'd have thought the government would collapse and we'd get another GE before that point, the DUP aren't going to wait that long to assure no Irish border surely?
Unless the tories won with a majority I guess
Wasn't Saturday paper about an ECJ not called ECJ and labour mobility and single market for goods while the speech now was against that?
Unless she hides behind semantics.
It's too late for a GE really. Unless the plan is "the moment any party wins they beg the EU to extend the date/give them a temporary transition deal in which nothing changes/just let us back in before the deadline hits."
These negotiations take years and the Tories have spent those years bickering and infighting instead of actually negotiating. Largely because they have nothing to negotiate with. Think about it, May put forth her proposals for the starting point of negotiations on Friday. Even if May manages to stick through it and there's no GE, she's going to have to capitulate on pretty much every part of her proposal because we literally do not have time left to actually negotiate. It's that or we crash out without a deal which would destroy the economy in a matter of minutes.
That's the dream
I think Norway looks the most likely now unless she's insane though
That's the dream, May really hammered home that Freedom of Movement is the one thing she wont back down on though.
It's not clear if there are enough votes for Norway right now.
People are starting to realize it might be them who lose their jobs.
Not those brown people, polish people or rich bankers.
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