She looked like someone just shoved a lemon in her mouth at that jeer.Anyone else watching May's speech atm?
*Rambles about the proposal*
"This will be challenging for the EU"
*Entire chamber laughs at her*
She looked like someone just shoved a lemon in her mouth at that jeer.Anyone else watching May's speech atm?
*Rambles about the proposal*
"This will be challenging for the EU"
*Entire chamber laughs at her*
The most emotion she has shown since being elected.She looked like someone just shoved a lemon in her mouth at that jeer.
The most emotion she has shown since being elected.
Corbs sticking the fucking boot in. Good job so far.
It was the Penguin laugh 2.0.Holy shit that forced laugh she just did while Corbyn made his statement. What on earth is that even?
He's basically pushing for Soft Brexit now.What exactly would Corbyn be doing to provide a good Brexit? Workers and business owners deserved better than the opposition supporting a policy that would totally fuck the UK regardless of who was piloting the ship.
But he's against Freedom of Movement.
Did he mention that during PMQs there? I missed that bit.But he's against Freedom of Movement.
No Freedom of Movement means no Soft Brexit.
Corbyn wants Unicorns the same as Davis/Gove/JRM/Johnson. It's just Corbyn wants red unicorns instead of white unicorns.
It's always been his position.
I need a video of this, for reasons.Anyone else watching May's speech atm?
*Rambles about the proposal*
"This will be challenging for the EU"
*Entire chamber laughs at her*
He backtracked on other parts of his position too. On the face of it it seems like he sees the way the wind is blowing and it's Soft Brexit.
You can scrub back on here it has Indexes, you want somewhere around 15:33 before the Corbyn bit. Not sure if it's during the Statement or her section after that. It was near the end of whichever section it is though.
thx.You can scrub back on here it has Indexes, you want somewhere around 15:33 before the Corbyn bit. Not sure if it's during the Statement or her section after that. It was near the end of whichever section it is though.
No, because it's what the agreement on Friday already said. The "End jurisdiction of the ECJ" in particular is one that her plan for is completely insane. She wants to work with the ECJ but not actually answer to the ECJ. It's an absurd proposal that feels like is in there solely to be backed down on (which is generally how Tory negotiation tactics work.)Wow TM saying we will end free movement, end jurisdiction of the ECJ come out of common agriculture and fishing policy too.
So is that basically a hard brexit?
Then in a month May will back down even moreNo, because it's what the agreement on Friday already said. The "End jurisdiction of the ECJ" in particular is one that her plan for is completely insane. She wants to work with the ECJ but not actually answer to the ECJ. It's an absurd proposal that feels like is in there solely to be backed down on (which is generally how Tory negotiation tactics work.)
It's definitely not the most Soft Brexit it could be but it's not a Hard Brexit either. It's cherry picking and the EU will shoot it down.
That's the hope, right? Freedom of Movement seems like the one thing she wont back down on though, which is still incredibly limiting. It's why her proposal is a crazy beaurocratic nightmare to get around not being in the CU/SM.
I said from the start UK will end up being a EU vassal with no say at all. Still sticking to it (atm)That's the hope, right? Freedom of Movement seems like the one thing she wont back down on though, which is still incredibly limiting. It's why her proposal is a crazy beaurocratic nightmare to get around not being in the CU/SM.
So this chequers agreement that was put down at the weekend, could they turn up to the EU with this and they turn around and go "Nah, see ya"?
So this chequers agreement that was put down at the weekend, could they turn up to the EU with this and they turn around and go "Nah, see ya"?
No? She doubled down on it all.So May practically rolled back on everything that was discussed at Chequers?
Chill man, she will win
Welp. Hope y'all were secretly wanting a No Deal Brexit.
Would a successful leadership challenge lead to a new election?
Welp. Hope y'all were secretly wanting a No Deal Brexit.
Would a successful leadership challenge lead to a new election?
No Deal isn't something that needs to be voted on? If there's no deal decided by the deadline then there's no deal...Can there even be a no deal brexit? DUP would pull out of the agreement wouldn't they?
No deal is the default option. No need to voteCan there even be a no deal brexit? DUP would pull out of the agreement wouldn't they?
No Deal isn't something that needs to be voted on? If there's no deal decided by the deadline then there's no deal...
It's too late for a GE really. Unless the plan is "the moment any party wins they beg the EU to extend the date/give them a temporary transition deal in which nothing changes/just let us back in before the deadline hits."I'd have thought the government would collapse and we'd get another GE before that point, the DUP aren't going to wait that long to assure no Irish border surely?
It's too late for a GE really. Unless the plan is "the moment any party wins they beg the EU to extend the date/give them a temporary transition deal in which nothing changes/just let us back in before the deadline hits."
These negotiations take years and the Tories have spent those years bickering and infighting instead of actually negotiating. Largely because they have nothing to negotiate with. Think about it, May put forth her proposals for the starting point of negotiations on Friday. Even if May manages to stick through it and there's no GE, she's going to have to capitulate on pretty much every part of her proposal because we literally do not have time left to actually negotiate. It's that or we crash out without a deal which would destroy the economy in a matter of minutes.
That's the dream, May really hammered home that Freedom of Movement is the one thing she wont back down on though.That's the dream
I think Norway looks the most likely now unless she's insane though
It's not clear if there are enough votes for Norway right now.That's the dream
I think Norway looks the most likely now unless she's insane though