Customers who prefer or need a straw can request one made of alternative materials for use with any cold drink.
I guess you're out of luck if you require a straw and want a hot drink.
Customers who prefer or need a straw can request one made of alternative materials for use with any cold drink.
1. I read it.The sheer notion that you and some other in this thread are simultaneously:
1) Too lazy to read the article which explicitly addresses the issues you're bringing up
2) So cynical to believe that multinational corporations like Starbucks didn't think about disabled customers
is pretty shocking. But sadly not surprising. Thus is the way of the outrage machine.
It's literally in the article I linked you:
There are other articles out there too. Educate yourself instead of doubling down on your ignorance.
Are you *serious* right now?2) So cynical to believe that multinational corporations like Starbucks didn't think about disabled customers
I don't know what to tell you. You are being offered a wealth of knowledge that contradicts your preconceived notions and you are actively deciding to not reconsider your views. Anti-intellectualism is a disease.Ridiculous. If you are so disabled that you cannot put a straw in a bag then you will have a carer who can. We are talking about people who have wheelchairs, crutches, medication... but can't stretch to a straw? It's a weak, weak argument.
I don't know what to tell you. You are being offered a wealth of knowledge that contradicts your preconceived notions and you are actively deciding to not reconsider your views. Anti-intellectualism is a disease.
A year and a half for a company that size? Not bad imo. I would imagine it starts rolling out in 2019 with a goal of 100% by 2020.
Even with plastic straws, using them with hot drinks is a really stupid idea. It's extremely dangerous to slurp up hot drinks with a straw, and Starbucks will not give you a straw with any hot drinks today.I guess you're out of luck if you require a straw and want a hot drink.
Yes, I'm absolutely serious.
Who the fuck drinks coffee with a straw? Or is this for other stuff?
Ice coffee isn't hot. The context is with people who say they want to use straws with hot drinks. Which is a really dumb idea.
Who drinks hot anything with a plastic straw to begin with? I can only imagine how long the plastic would sit in the cup before it started melting.I guess you're out of luck if you require a straw and want a hot drink.
That was painful to watch. I just couldn't after the turtle started bleeding.I'm all for it. The video of a turtle having a plastic straw being removed from its nostrils is horrific. :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wH878t78bw
Is this what concern trolling looks like?Can't wait for all the disabled and special needs people to be denied straws. Real nice move there, Starbucks.
1. I read it.
2. I don't think Starbucks thinks or cares that much about most customers unless it affects image or bottom line.
I can still voice my disdain for this after reading it. I still do not like this trend, I still find it regressive.
This is not an either or situation and you shouldn't be making it into one. You are clearly operating off of very low information regarding accessibility for people with disabilities (and straws for that matter) if you a) think that people with severe disabilities are somehow guaranteed a caretaker, and b) reusable straws somehow don't need to be washed.It's not bloody anti intellectualism. Anti environmentalists trying to use the disabled to hamper the progress of helping the environment is pretty horrible to me. I read the article and the argument is weak. That is not anti intellectualism. You can still bring a bendy plastic straw to Starbucks if you need one. They haven't become illegal.
Don't call other people dumb of when you're ignorant about a subject.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opi...isabilities-plastic-straws-are-essential-not/
Is it "let's not read the OP" day on ResetEra today or something?
Who drinks hot anything with a plastic straw to begin with? I can only imagine how long the plastic would sit in the cup before it started melting.
The sheer notion that you and some other in this thread are simultaneously:
1) Too lazy to read the article which explicitly addresses the issues you're bringing up
2) So cynical to believe that multinational corporations like Starbucks didn't think about disabled customers
is pretty shocking. But sadly not surprising. Thus is the way of the outrage machine.
It's literally in the article I linked you:
There are other articles out there too. Educate yourself instead of doubling down on your ignorance.
There are other articles out there. Try this one, it's written by a disabled person who is also an environmental activist.There are paper and compostable flexible straws, which this article seems to gloss over. If the concern is that paper straws can't be used with hot drinks then "waiting until the drink isn't hot but just warm which people do anyway with straws" is an acceptable trade off to help save the environment.
People who require a straw to drink boiling hot water/coffee bring their own reusable plastic straws because those things are made for high-temperature liquids, and it lessens the chance of burning your tongue/mouth and it also decreases the likelihood of plastic chemicals being melted into your drink. Plus whatever straw they bring, it's designed for their specific needs.
There are other articles out there. Try this one, it's written by a disabled person who is also an environmental activist.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/09/disabled-person-plastic-straws-baby-wipes
"Not as a luxury. I need straws that bend, ones that can handle all drinks, including medication, and all temperatures. I need straws that aren't too fat, that won't cause me to choke or be difficult for me to keep in my mouth."
I can't remember the last restaurant I went to that offered bendy straws. Starbucks ones are firm. And pretty damn fat.
In other words, this person is already bringing their own straws if they require bendy ones.
"Starbucks to not offer free plastic straws" isnt the same as "anyone seen with a straw will be shot on sight"
Even worse, this op-ed goes on about how essential disposable wipes are. Huh? The issue is when theyre flushed. Why cant Penny throw them in the wastebasket?
Does Starbucks sell bendy straws that this person requires? Do disabled people rely exclusively on restaurants to provide them bendy straws and they don't have their own straws? This article doesn't clarify.There are other articles out there. Try this one, it's written by a disabled person who is also an environmental activist.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/09/disabled-person-plastic-straws-baby-wipes
I've never seen a Starbucks store carry bendy straws before.Does Starbucks sell bendy straws that this person requires? Do disabled people rely exclusively on restaurants to provide them bendy straws and they don't have their own straws? This article doesn't clarify.
This is not an either or situation and you shouldn't be making it into one. You are clearly operating off of very low information regarding accessibility for people with disabilities (and straws for that matter) if you a) think that people with severe disabilities are somehow guaranteed a caretaker, and b) reusable straws somehow don't need to be washed.
I just got a refillable cup for Dunkin Donuts after I realized how many cups I was going through each week.Wow, pretty awesome.
I used to always bring my own cup into Starbucks because you got a discount and it kept my drink colder (or hotter) longer. But then when they introduced the mobile app and online ordering, I basically stopped doing that entirely... the convenience of having my drink already made, skipping the line, and just walking out with it trumped the cost savings and (ashamedly) my eco-consciousness.
Does Starbucks sell bendy straws that this person requires? Do disabled people rely exclusively on restaurants to provide them bendy straws and they don't have their own straws? This article doesn't clarify.
That was painful to watch. I just couldn't after the turtle started bleeding.
Is this what concern trolling looks like?
I already carry enough shit around due to my disability, a few straws can't hurt right?
Urgh.
Basically if wherever I am doesn't have straws and me/my wife/friends forget straws I'm SOL.
No no no no no no no no NO!
I've posted my disdain before, but why are we regresssing? What about the handicapped (see some of the other threads if not in the know)? This only helps create more waste as far as I'm concerned because now I gotta buy straws in lower bulk numbers, which means more packaging wasted in the long run.
I've recently started using washable metal straws and for someone who sometimes lacks fine motor control... It's not a great idea. Not to mention that in hot drinks the heat transfers to the straw.
Paper and cardboard straws are shit, they fall apart and make the drink taste awful.
At the moment I'm sticking with metal straws but I've already cut my bottom lip on one so I don't know what to do, maybe see if I can get metal straws with rubber protective tips over the ends.
Oh, sure. I agree with you on that.that's roll out, which i don't find interesting. i'm talking about when this announcement was made, today. they're like a decade late to this. they probably waited for the prices to go down, when they could have been instrumental in making it go down in the first place.
This is a good step but a very small step.
Anyone who cares about the environment should stop eating fish: