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Dice

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,667
Canada
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Oct 27, 2017
13,464
Twitter's rules are inconsistent and I stopped taking the company seriously when they rewrote said rules just so they didn't have to ban Donald Trump
 

devilhawk

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,536
I think that's a pretty wrong way to think about this.

Twitter is worth nearly $15 billion. You don't make changes like this on a whim, even if you're the owner. Everything needs to be approved, seen how it may affect advertisers and traffic to the site, make sure they create a new set of ground rules that they can refer to instead of just saying "we don't like this person", etc.

Just because they took longer than you wanted and didn't rush to a snap judgment doesn't mean he's "practically an alt-righter."
It's a horrendous argument anyways. Jack follows thousands of people. I could cherrypick a few out of the list and declare he was anything that I wanted. It's meaningless.
 

Cap0bvious

Member
Nov 5, 2017
54
Australia
I think the verification system needs a serious re-working. Why the hell is "PeterSweden" still verified when he doesn't even have his actual name in his profile?

Just chucking some ideas into the mix to see if they stick... what if they had different coloured ticks for different accounts? So, a blue tick for a company, a green tick for a journalist with actual press credentials (e.g. National Visits Media Card, IFJ Press Card, ID card at an actual news outlet etc.), a grey tick for a celebrity who's frequently impersonated, a yellow tick for an elected politician.

Clearly the blue tick system isn't working. Twitter says it's about identity verification and nothing else, but it clearly denotes more than that implicitly.
 

devilhawk

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,536
I think the verification system needs a serious re-working. Why the hell is "PeterSweden" still verified when he doesn't even have his actual name in his profile?

Just chucking some ideas into the mix to see if they stick... what if they had different coloured ticks for different accounts? So, a blue tick for a company, a green tick for a journalist with actual press credentials (e.g. National Visits Media Card, IFJ Press Card, ID card at an actual news outlet etc.), a grey tick for a celebrity who's frequently impersonated, a yellow tick for an elected politician.

Clearly the blue tick system isn't working. Twitter says it's about identity verification and nothing else, but it clearly denotes more than that implicitly.
I like that idea a lot.
 

TetraGenesis

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,142
Jack is absolutely an alt-righter. He follows some of the absolute scummiest alt-righters and it certainly isn't to monitor what they say and punish them as they say horrendous stuff on a daily basis and even dox people and Jack does nothing

Ugh. Disgusting. Think how much better Twitter could be if it were run by someone with anything resembling a moral compass.
 

TheGreatDave

User banned at own request
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
208
Verification should be seen as that. Verifying the person is who they say. It shouldn't mean anything beyond that and all Twitter continues to do is give in to any outrage party that takes place.
 

B-Dubs

That's some catch, that catch-22
General Manager
Oct 25, 2017
32,926
How about we ban them instead. This is a nothing measure that looks like something to people who aren't paying much attention.
 

Deleted member 12790

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
24,537
I think the verification system needs a serious re-working. Why the hell is "PeterSweden" still verified when he doesn't even have his actual name in his profile?

Just chucking some ideas into the mix to see if they stick... what if they had different coloured ticks for different accounts? So, a blue tick for a company, a green tick for a journalist with actual press credentials (e.g. National Visits Media Card, IFJ Press Card, ID card at an actual news outlet etc.), a grey tick for a celebrity who's frequently impersonated, a yellow tick for an elected politician.

Clearly the blue tick system isn't working. Twitter says it's about identity verification and nothing else, but it clearly denotes more than that implicitly.

this is actually a great idea, so of course it'll never happen.
 

IrishNinja

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
9,837
Vice City
Does this mean that they will finally actually verify accounts that meet all criteria, like Candace Owens'? She's been trying, but they just won't do it. https://twitter.com/RedPillBlack She's out there, but she's not a supremacist last I checked.

what an absolutely shitty person to stan for
jesus, do better huelen

"At" jack (since I can't use @ without summoning someone on Resetera) is practically an alt-righter himself. He dragged his feet on even removing these accounts' verified status.

If Twitter hadn't received so much scrutiny in recent times nothing would have been done at all.

yeah, i would've doubted this more if some of his follows hasn't been pointed out recently, ugh
 
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Pet

More helpful than the IRS
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
7,070
SoCal
HAHAHAHA.

Personally I find these tears more amusing than them just being banned.



They are crying THIS hard about losing a blue checkmark. Goddamn people, maybe they should just take a break from the internet and calm themselves hahahahaha.
 

Quad Lasers

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,542
They should have kept Baked Alaska around. No one sells the role of village idiot for white supremacists quite like that dumbass.
 

Trafalgar Law

Member
Nov 6, 2017
4,684
medicine after death
honestly social media and authorities never took it seriously
which is laughable since the latter attacked civil rights moevements and are even actively investigating BLM groups ( but no white nationalist movements anymore lmao )
 

Tickling

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
961
This is stupidity you either remove them or let them keep their badge (even though I think there shouldn't be verified badges unless you hit a certain number of followers). By doing this you are raising the profile of them more. Streisand effect anyone
 

take_marsh

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,328
It'd be pretty cool block of all neo-nazis from Twitter.... and facebook... and social media in general.... and pretty much from conducting public gatherings... yeah....

But yeah, remove verified status! Yeah! That'll be enough.
 

Jack

Member
Oct 25, 2017
167
"At" jack (since I can't use @ without summoning someone on Resetera) is practically an alt-righter himself. He dragged his feet on even removing these accounts' verified status.

If Twitter hadn't received so much scrutiny in recent times nothing would have been done at all.
Think again. You've summoned me!

Dunno why I got notifications for this but next time he is mentioned I should play it out XD
 

peyrin

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,408
California
Verification should be seen as that. Verifying the person is who they say. It shouldn't mean anything beyond that and all Twitter continues to do is give in to any outrage party that takes place.

Exactly this. I don't understand why we've seen a sudden influx of blue check marks next to people no one has ever heard of - I thought verification was just to prevent impostor accounts of actual well-known people. Twitter pretty much brought this one on themselves.
 

Mr_Black

Banned for having an alt account
Member
Oct 27, 2017
969
They have such a fucking strange almost narcissistic way of looking at themselves as icons of martyrdom.

Laura Loomer, you're really not quite up there with Joan of Arc just because your twitter account got a blue tick removed.

I cannot imagine what these people get like when real tragedy is in their lives.
 

Mr. Sam

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,031
I don't know about the rest, but Tommy Robinson is not a white supremacist.

Glad to hear he's had a change of heart in the last... four days.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ationalists-march-on-polands-independence-day

Tens of thousands of nationalist demonstrators marched through Warsaw at the weekend to mark Poland's independence day, throwing red-smoke bombs and carrying banners with slogans such as "white Europe of brotherly nations".

Police estimated 60,000 people took part in Saturday's event, in what experts say was one of the biggest gathering of far-right activists in Europe in recent years.

Demonstrators with faces covered chanted "Pure Poland, white Poland!" and "Refugees get out!". A banner hung over a bridge that read: "Pray for Islamic Holocaust."

Among the far-right leaders attending the march was the former English Defence League leader Stephen Lennon, better known as Tommy Robinson, and Roberto Fiore from Italy. It also attracted a considerable number of supporters of Poland's governing conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party.
 

Finale Fireworker

Love each other or die trying.
Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,717
United States
Does this mean that they will finally actually verify accounts that meet all criteria, like Candace Owens'? She's been trying, but they just won't do it. https://twitter.com/RedPillBlack She's out there, but she's not a supremacist last I checked.

A quick jaunt through her timeline reveals typical alt-right Twitter insanity. This woman is a crazy person. So if she was white, she'd have already been verified. I guess I'll give you that.
 

Grizzo

Member
Oct 26, 2017
151
Paris
The verified status gives you a new tab on the Notification section: "Verified", which as it states, is a tab with only other mentions, likes and retweets directed at you by other verified accounts. For example, it helps Rihanna know if Selena Gomez reached out to her or something. That way, Selena's tweet won't get lost in the millions of mentions Rihanna must get everyday.

So those supremacists didn't lose much, except for that blue checkmark which gave them a sort of credibility and pride. Their ego is taking a big hit since it was removed and that's something we can enjoy, though it's still not nearly enough.
 

Mr. Sam

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,031
Frankly, this is almost worse than them doing nothing. "Yes, we are aware of and easily able to identify influential people with racist views who incite hatred and harassment on a daily basis. No, we're not prepared to stop them using our platform."
 

Djkhaled

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
557
This is at least finally something. But I refuse to go back to twitter after they banned me for 7 days after I defended myself when a group of altright guys attacked me for hours calling me "tranny" and "Caitlyn Jenner" because I had a rainbow flag. The tweet that twitter decided was ban worthy was

"@adriansal @dirtylarpa @SkyNewsAust But do you seriously think it's okay to call people "tranny" and be a hateful person? I'm not trans but just try and think if you were being called hurtful shit for no reason. Put yourself in other people's shoes before you be a cunt to them for no reason."

But those guys kept tweeting after I was banned. Until twitter actually bans people that spread hate I'm not returning.
 

Mivey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,893
Why not bring it back, but with a swastika symbol? They would surely approve, and normal people could tell they are nazis, on a single glance. Win/Win.
 

cameron

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
23,850
The Charlottesville "Unite the Right" rally organizer had his twitter account verified last week, which led to twitter putting a temp hold on verifications to reassess the process after all the bad publicity/press.

Quoting some key bits from CNN: Twitter removes verifications on some users
Tweeting content that incites hate and harassment, includes violent or dangerous behavior, or violates Twitter's rules, could lead to removal of the verification badge.

Twitter's verification badge is a white check mark inside a blue icon next to someone's name indicating the company has verified the person's identity and that the account belongs to them. Celebrities, journalists, and popular personalities often receive the badge.
Kessler, who organized "Unite the Right" protest in Charlottesville, criticized the policy in a tweet. "Twitter has changed their verification policy just to be able to censor me," he said.

Twitter verified Kessler last week and users immediately complained.
"Verification has long been perceived as an endorsement," the company tweeted. "We gave verified accounts visual prominence on the service which deepened this perception. We should have addressed this earlier but did not prioritize the work as we should have."

Last week, the company suspended verification due to "confusion" over its policies. It is still not accepting public submissions for verification.
It's unclear why some Twitter users are losing their verification while others are removed from the site completely. Twitter declined to comment on that issue.

I wouldn't be surprised if Twitter reverses course on this.