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Deleted member 5596

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Yes, it is. If it didn't run fine people wouldn't be playing and enjoying it for the last 6 months. Hyperbole will get you nowhere friend.

People enjoying the game dosn't mean it runs "fine".



Game has lot of framepacing issues and framerate, and that's an early area, with several monsters and people on the screen is even worst.

DLC monsters parity at launch would screw over PC players actually. New monsters introductions were big community events where almost everyone online was doing the new monster's quests, which wouldn't happen with them all being available at once. They have set plans for how to introduce them. A lot of them wouldn't even make sense to have available when the whole community is just starting to play the game with some of the highlights of those events requiring HR50(about 100+ hours of gameplay).

Most of these quests are locked behind HR ranks anyway, it wouldn't hurt at all, and means people who reaches those levels won't have to wait randomly to have yje content unlocked at some point down the line.
 

Eolz

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Oct 25, 2017
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DLC monsters parity at launch would screw over PC players actually. New monsters introductions were big community events where almost everyone online was doing the new monster's quests, which wouldn't happen with them all being available at once. They have set plans for how to introduce them. A lot of them wouldn't even make sense to have available when the whole community is just starting to play the game with some of the highlights of those events requiring HR50(about 100+ hours of gameplay).
That doesn't really make sense.
If someone buys the console version today, he would have the problem you're talking about. If some hardcore PC players go to high HR quickly, they'll then have to wait a long while, like many hardcore players on console had to do.
The slow drip of content updates has been done to work as a service game, but doesn't make sense to start from scratch again here. It's not some competitive game, releasing the full content now to follow with the same updates as on console would have worked just as well.
 

TheYanger

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Oct 25, 2017
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People enjoying the game dosn't mean it runs "fine".



Game has lot of framepacing issues and framerate, and that's an early area, with several monsters and people on the screen is even worst.



Most of these quests are locked behind HR ranks anyway, it wouldn't hurt at all, and means people who reaches those levels won't have to wait randomly to have yje content unlocked at some point down the line.

Yes, that is exactly what it means. I own the game, I've got hundreds of hours in the game, you're acting like it runs like fucking Goldeneye or something. It runs about as well as every 30 fps console game does. That's like saying Bloodbourne which has similar issues doesn't run fine. No, it doesn't run flawlessly, nor could it not run better (it obviously could), but it is absolutely 'fine' ffs.
 

texhnolyze

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yes, it is. If it didn't run fine people wouldn't be playing and enjoying it for the last 6 months. Hyperbole will get you nowhere friend.
People just have no choice, really.

I tried all the demo on PS4 and it was quite bad. People kept convinced me that it was a pretty old build but later on DF proved otherwise, it's still as bad on release. One of my main reasons why I skipped the PS4 version.

It's different from Bloodborne's framepacing issue. I also didn't enjoy Bloodborne that much due to that, actually. I just have no choice as it's an exclusive. Which is a big shame.
 

TheYanger

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Oct 25, 2017
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People juat have no choice, really.

I tried all the demo on PS4 and it was quite bad. People kept convinced me that it was a pretty old build but later on DF proved otherwise, it's still as bad on release. One of my main reasons why I skipped the PS4 version.
I'm not sure how you manage to play any console games at all, if you actually think it was 'quite bad'

Monster hunter is a very slow paced game.
 

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Yes, that is exactly what it means. I own the game, I've got hundreds of hours in the game, you're acting like it runs like fucking Goldeneye or something. It runs about as well as every 30 fps console game does. That's like saying Bloodbourne which has similar issues doesn't run fine. No, it doesn't run flawlessly, nor could it not run better (it obviously could), but it is absolutely 'fine' ffs.

A lot of 30fps console games runs better. MHW gets at points really low, specially with late monsters and lot's of effects from other players attacks. I played the game for almost 200h but I would never say it's run fine or runs as "just any other console 30fps" game. It runs pretty bad, that dosn't mean you can't enjoy the game, but is there and affects negatively the game.
 

XDevil666

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yes, that is exactly what it means. I own the game, I've got hundreds of hours in the game, you're acting like it runs like fucking Goldeneye or something. It runs about as well as every 30 fps console game does. That's like saying Bloodbourne which has similar issues doesn't run fine. No, it doesn't run flawlessly, nor could it not run better (it obviously could), but it is absolutely 'fine' ffs.
I agree, it's posts like this which lead to less sales, boycotts and refunds

I wish it would stop, nit picking at things which can easily be looked past
 

Kaguya

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Jun 19, 2018
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That doesn't really make sense.
If someone buys the console version today, he would have the problem you're talking about. If some hardcore PC players go to high HR quickly, they'll then have to wait a long while, like many hardcore players on console had to do.
The slow drip of drip of content updates has been done to work as a service game, but doesn't make sense to start from scratch again here. It's not some competitive game, releasing the full content now to follow with the same updates as on console would have worked just as well.
Yes he would, but he had the chance to pick it before hand and it will be the same for those who chose not to pick it up at launch on PC and wait for all the update, removing that completely for all PC players doesn't make sense. Just check any MHW online community and what does it turn into during new monsters launch. That's the whole point of content updates of this type and isn't different from what other games do, until they catch up with the original release.

They aren't holding off remixed Kirin more than 8 months after release because it's not ready when it was leaked months before the game's release. Those monsters updates are meant to be community events and are spaced to keep interest until the next big thing for the series.

And they wouldn't have to wait as much as console players did, they already said the pace will be faster.
 
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GhostTrick

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Oct 25, 2017
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So, someone in another thread just point out the PSN price for us europeans:

https://store.playstation.com/de-de/product/EP0102-CUSA07708_00-MHWFULLGAME00000

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DId the PSN version launch at that price, or did it had a pricedrop?



Yakuza games also never saw an xbox or nintendo release.
OG Nier was nearly 360 exclusive.
Shenmue never appeared on any non-dreamcast platform before.

None of this has anything to do with piracy or denuvo.

Sure it's not a coincidence, the reason we're getting them is the fact that a small handful of games were ported to give it a try (such as Dark Souls, Valkyria Chronicles, Final Fantasy XIII) - without denuvo i might add - and went on to become millionsellers, proving that there is a market for japanese games afterall. Millions of sales no sane company would pass up on, with or without denuvo.



I think they had a price drop since yesterday. Game was 70€ when I checked yesterday.
 

Wamb0wneD

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Oct 26, 2017
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As bizarre as it is to release this in the same month, MHGU being a wholly unique game from MHW is something that works in its advantage, especially with its massive amount of content and the fact that it supports save transfers from MHG to give those players a big head start.
Only for people who actually inform themselves about the content ofg the games. Most new players don't do that sort of thing.
Was also generally speaking of how Capcom is treating the platforms.
 

Poimandres

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Oct 26, 2017
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Okay, so I have a PC with a 1060 (6gb) and a PS4 Pro.

I guess the strengths are weaknesses of each version would be:

PC:
+ Free online
+ Better performance/visuals?
+ "Fresh" community
- More expensive
- Overall community likely to be smaller

PS4 Pro
+ Larger community overall
+ Cheaper
+ Higher resolution/checkerboarding for my machine?
- Need PS+ subscription
- Not as smooth performance wise
- Not a good time to come in as a "noob"

Anything anyone has to add that would sway me one way or the other? I guess to really get an idea about performance I'll need to wait until the PC version launches. This is basically running on MT Framework right? I'm surprised performance isn't better if that's the case... all of the other MT Framework games ran at 60fps max easily on my old machine.
 

shan780

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Nov 2, 2017
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does not having all the monsters and events mean we won't have cross play or cross save? if i can't transfer my 450 hours of progress on PS4 then I'll probably just wait until I can cheat to get back to where i was
 

Mechanized

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Oct 27, 2017
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My 970 doesnt seem up to snuff for high @60. And 30fps on pc always looks weird for some reason. I'm torn.
 

Telaso

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm sure that GMG or cdkeys will have it for 15-25% before it comes out. If not before, then usually within a few weeks of release they have it on sale for something.
 

GLHFGodbless

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Oct 27, 2017
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So what the hell has capcom been doing for the passed 7 months? I doubt it has anything to do with "timed exclusive" nonsense as the game is also on xbox? So what was the purpose of delaying the game for 7 months without any worthwhile pc upgrades? And at 60 bucks? The arrogance is astounding. If you're gonna half ass it then just don't release it at all, imo.
 

Oticon

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Oct 30, 2017
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So what the hell has capcom been doing for the passed 7 months? I doubt it has anything to do with "timed exclusive" nonsense as the game is also on xbox? So what was the purpose of delaying the game for 7 months without any worthwhile pc upgrades? And at 60 bucks? The arrogance is astounding. If you're gonna half ass it then just don't release it at all, imo.
What? Nah give it to me fam I've been waiting.
 

Pyros Eien

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Oct 31, 2017
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So what the hell has capcom been doing for the passed 7 months? I doubt it has anything to do with "timed exclusive" nonsense as the game is also on xbox? So what was the purpose of delaying the game for 7 months without any worthwhile pc upgrades? And at 60 bucks? The arrogance is astounding. If you're gonna half ass it then just don't release it at all, imo.
They've been porting the game? They said right away, even before the console release, that they hadn't started on the PC version and wouldn't until the console game released(or well at least went gold). Should have they started on the port earlier to do simultaneous releases? Sure, but not understanding how it takes 6months to port a game to PC, cmon.

Price could be 10bucks lower, probably, but on the other hand, I can't remember the last time I paid 60$ for a new game on PC. Shit just doesn't happen unless you just buy directly from Steam all the time(and even then most games have 10% off on new releases). Can buy from legit(as in official partners and what not) 3rd party websites with 20-25% off before release pretty much always, other than indie games. Can buy from less legit websites sometimes like 40% off.

I just don't get the outrage, it's a great game, I haven't played it on console because I was waiting for the PC version, I'll buy it. The fact people got to play the game 6months before doesn't really affect me. On top of that, I still save a bunch of money every year playing on PC because I don't have to pay for Steam Plus/Gold to play games with other people.
 

TeenageFBI

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Oct 25, 2017
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I was so on board with this game when it was first announced, and I managed to hold off on the console version for the upcoming PC port. ..Now I just don't care so much. A decent discount would have had me there on day one, no question, but $60 is a big ask.
 

KushalaDaora

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Oct 27, 2017
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Okay, so I have a PC with a 1060 (6gb) and a PS4 Pro.

I guess the strengths are weaknesses of each version would be:

PC:
+ Free online
+ Better performance/visuals?
+ "Fresh" community
- More expensive
- Overall community likely to be smaller

PS4 Pro
+ Larger community overall
+ Cheaper
+ Higher resolution/checkerboarding for my machine?
- Need PS+ subscription
- Not as smooth performance wise
- Not a good time to come in as a "noob"

Anything anyone has to add that would sway me one way or the other? I guess to really get an idea about performance I'll need to wait until the PC version launches. This is basically running on MT Framework right? I'm surprised performance isn't better if that's the case... all of the other MT Framework games ran at 60fps max easily on my old machine.

Anecdote.

I started a new playthrough a month ago, and the community is pretty much dead on lower level content on PS4. Even in higher level content (I returned to the game on late May when Lunastra added to the game), there aren't that many active room/sessions/hunt as I expected either.

Note that I'm in Asia and shares the same timezone as Japan.

So what the hell has capcom been doing for the passed 7 months? I doubt it has anything to do with "timed exclusive" nonsense as the game is also on xbox? So what was the purpose of delaying the game for 7 months without any worthwhile pc upgrades? And at 60 bucks? The arrogance is astounding. If you're gonna half ass it then just don't release it at all, imo.

Something something on how World is MH team first experience with PC and how they want to take time with it and don't want to outsource it.
 

Poimandres

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Oct 26, 2017
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Anecdote.

I started a new playthrough a month ago, and the community is pretty much dead on lower level content on PS4. Even in higher level content (I returned to the game on late May when Lunastra added to the game), there aren't that many active room/sessions/hunt as I expected either.

Note that I'm in Asia and shares the same timezone as Japan.

Thanks for the insight. I think I'll have to go PC at launch if I want to properly get into the game!
 

Kahoots

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Feb 15, 2018
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Will wait until I upgrade and the price drops, can play the switch one in the mean time.
 

RyanRad

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Oct 27, 2017
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I was looking forward to this, quite a bit, never even played a Monster Hunter game and was hoping this would be my entry into it. But five days before the Battle for Azeroth release!? Seems like a really bad move. I know I will not be getting it now, and I know a lot of WoW players that were wanting it as well, but are no longer.

Would have been great timing if they released it earlier in the year, or you know, when the console version came out. Legion was becoming long in the tooth and WoW players were looking for another game to play.

Going up against a WoW expansion, what a bunch of crazies.
 

SDBurton

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Oct 25, 2017
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Will be double dipping for sure and will most likely be more active on pc than I have on PS4. Do we have a PC guild in the works?
 

Ryuelli

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Oct 26, 2017
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Will have to hold off on this then, that's too close to Battle for Azeroth's release date which is going to take up all my time. Cool that it's coming so soon though.
 

KarmaCow

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Oct 25, 2017
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I was hoping I could comfortably hit 1080/60 on comp but if those recommended specs are just for 30fps then I'll probably pass or wait for a sale.
 

Kalik

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Nov 1, 2017
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maybe something got lost in translation...one minute the Monster Hunter: World producer is talking about 'console parity'...another minute he reveals all the Advanced PC graphics options and it's pretty deep...I don't get it
 

texhnolyze

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You really think, that at highest settings on the PC version, it's going to be a match for console settings? And that we will still see those 3 frame animations on monsters further in the distance? Given Capcom's PC efforts in the past several years, I don't see how that can be the case.
Just noticed this pic. Is 'High' the highest setting in the game, or is there 'Highest' or 'Ultra'?
 

TheYanger

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, because the 30fps Horizon that feels butter smooth is totally comparable to MH World. Yeah, no. There's a reason why DF exists. You only need to watch/read their content.
Yeah thanks, I do. I haven';t watched the MHW video in quite a while, but if you could direct me to the part where they say "This game is a mess and runs badly" I'd appreciate it. Or do you mean "We got it dipping when thing X or Y happens" like the vast majority of games do?

Unlike you, I've played the game for more than "I tried the beta" AND I've watched the DF video when it launched. The game is fine, exactly as I said.

You also just described a 30 fps game as buttery smooth. like...ok, yes there are games that hold 30 better. What is your point? there are games that hold fucking 60. Horizon runs like shit guys, that's half!
 

texhnolyze

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Maybe I have superhuman abilities, because I put 400 ho
urs into MHW and had no issues. It was just better when I got a PS4 pro switched to framerate.
That's the thing, you play on a Pro.
- PS4: 1080p, frame rate hangs around 30 but can drop a lot
- PS4 Pro: 1800p CB in resolution mode, always above 30FPS

Yeah thanks, I do. I haven';t watched the MHW video in quite a while, but if you could direct me to the part where they say "This game is a mess and runs badly" I'd appreciate it. Or do you mean "We got it dipping when thing X or Y happens" like the vast majority of games do?

Unlike you, I've played the game for more than "I tried the beta" AND I've watched the DF video when it launched. The game is fine, exactly as I said.
Sorry, but I trust DF. Drop a lot from 30fps is not what I'd call 'running fine'.

If you're okay with that more power to you. But you're not gonna convince me that it'll be fine for me.
Performance:

- No option to cap FPS to 30
- Frame time spikes all over the place.
- Base PS4 performance mostly same as Beta.
 
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Deleted member 42221

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How hard will it be to get 720/60?

Because I will do that tradeoff to get 60

(Though I shouldn't have to holy fuck)
 

TheYanger

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sorry, but I trist DF. Drop a lot from 30fps is not what I'd call 'running fine'.

If you're okay with that more power to you. But you're not gonna convince me that it'll be fine for me.
I trust DF plenty, the problem is you're presenting what DF said as something that it isn't. Dropping a few frames is not the same as running badly. They nevver said it was, but here you are trying to fire them like ammunition at a game that you haven't even played in its released state. Like, ok? Everything out of your mouth in this discussion is pure hyperbole.

THE GAME. RUNS. FINE. It always has. On base fucking hardware.
 

Grudy

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Oct 29, 2017
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Any new info on cross-save between PS4 and PC? That's all I care about.