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Ant-Man and the Wasp |OT| It takes two to make a thing go right (Unmarked Spoilers)
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I really liked it. I never saw the first ant man and I think that made me like this one more cause it was my first time really seeing any of the characters. The jokes all landed pretty well and I love me some paul rudd.
Definitely a 5 bagger
Definitely a 5 bagger
But in IW, I believe they said they are both under house arrest.
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Please edit your posts with spoiler tags, guys.
Set photos from Avengers 4 is not free game for openly discussing.
I've been kind of depressed lately and this movie was just fun for me. I need me some Ant Man and Guardians together for the ultimate fun.
So this movie was supposed to address why Ant-Man wasn't in Infinity War. I guess it kind of does, but not really. For example, he was supposed to be on house arrest during the invasion right? How many days was the entirety of IW, maybe 2? So then did those 2 days fall on exactly the days of this Ant Man movie?
In Ant-Man, he goes 3 days on house arrest, free, then experimenting on a brand new Quantum Tunnel out of a van. I would assume that this new tunnel was not built the same day, and took some building/testing before experimenting but lets say that's not the case. That means that Ant-Man and the Wasp still chose to hang out playing with the Quantum Tunnel instead of going out to help the Avengers and whatnot.
Not sure if this makes sense..
In Ant-Man, he goes 3 days on house arrest, free, then experimenting on a brand new Quantum Tunnel out of a van. I would assume that this new tunnel was not built the same day, and took some building/testing before experimenting but lets say that's not the case. That means that Ant-Man and the Wasp still chose to hang out playing with the Quantum Tunnel instead of going out to help the Avengers and whatnot.
Not sure if this makes sense..
I mean they're probably keeping close enough tabs to know he needs to be with his family. Not close enough to know what he's up to otherwise. The harbor incident would maybe be the only inconsistency in that you'd think that would show up on the news.
But I mean Infinity War is supposedly happening concurrent to Graviton fucking up Chicago, so maybe the news is all too busy to say much about a giant red drunk in the San Francisco bay.
We've already spent some time talking about it in thread, but (tagging just in case people haven't seen Infinity War yet):
Obviously, regardless of whether they're factually correct or not, the Avengers believe Scott is still on house arrest and don't call him for that reason. There's no one to call for New York - it's over almost as quickly as it began. It hits the news and everything, but everything is already said and done.
Wakanda happens a day or two after New York, but Wakanda's true defenses are not known to the rest of the world at this point. No media is present for the battle (someone earlier claimed there was in-universe media coverage depicted in Agents of SHIELD, but I don't believe this to be true, and TV doesn't matter to movie canon anyway). When the snap happens, the entire universe is taken off-guard by its results.
Yes, the timing of events in the movie place the vast majority of it happening before New York, and only the mid and post-credits scenes taking place around the end of the battle at Wakanda. And yes, it's completely plausible that this movie's characters would be completely unaware of Infinity War's conflict despite being directly affected by it in the end.
Wakanda happens a day or two after New York, but Wakanda's true defenses are not known to the rest of the world at this point. No media is present for the battle (someone earlier claimed there was in-universe media coverage depicted in Agents of SHIELD, but I don't believe this to be true, and TV doesn't matter to movie canon anyway). When the snap happens, the entire universe is taken off-guard by its results.
Yes, the timing of events in the movie place the vast majority of it happening before New York, and only the mid and post-credits scenes taking place around the end of the battle at Wakanda. And yes, it's completely plausible that this movie's characters would be completely unaware of Infinity War's conflict despite being directly affected by it in the end.
Small touch but I really like how Maggie and Paxton kind of show up as reformed friends of Scott and that they never once flipped on him. Throughout the movie I was like "aw man please don't let Scott disappoint them again after all they went through" and thankfully he succeeded. Their friendship was really sweet.
Every time I see this gif get posted I shake my head. It's not like it does my favorite show (Agents of Shield) any favors. :(
Now get onto the first Ant-Man. It's arguably the better movie. And it got some awesome macrophotography on mini-sets too.
Most shows would kill to have a budget to do something like that.
The invasion was localized in Wakanda. That spaceship showed up in New York, but was a comparably small event compared to the Avengers 1 invasion. Without direct contact with the Avengers, it stands to reason they wouldn't know what was going on at all, or that the Avengers could've used their help.
Ehhhhhh
Scarlet and Vision both see it on the news of a random news station in whatever European country they were in.
My gripe isn't moreso why the Avengers didn't call Scott. It's that I don't believe he wouldn't know what's going on and go help once the house arrest was over. He's just chillin, helping out with an experiment hours or the day after Tony is reported missing and freaking aliens invade the Earth. That's not small news even in the MCU.
Anyway, was just more an observation, not really a complaint. I don't think they covered enough holes but it'll do.
Sorry and edited. Wasn't too sure when I posted to tag, so I just left it alone.
Dude's whole thing is to finally be able to live his life with his daughter, and has Hope to share his life with, who only now is getting to be with her mother. Dude has no context for what happened in New York, and for all he knows, Cap and crew are still out in the world, on the run.
Lol. I laughed at both of those, and especially Hank's FBI disguise and him saying "Perfect!" After it materializes in their interrogation room. The fact that it worked that time also made me laugh.
There was some solid humor in this movie, even if it wasn't as fresh as the first. Randall Park is someone I hope becomes a regular. I imagine that if this movie hadn't had to tie into Infinity War, we'd have gotten a post credits scene that featured him and Scott having lunch or something as a gag. Maybe for Ant-Man 3. He needs to be more of a fixture in the MCU after this one. Well, of his tv schedule allows it.
I think the opposite. It looks pretty damn good.
They capture the feeling of weightlessness of bouncing up into the air right before Daisy punches Talbot into the ground again and the VFX look pretty impressively believable, especially for a TV show. I think there are other moments to criticize even in the same scene, but that isn't one of them imo.
The event on new york was a day before and the spaceship flew off the earth, so maybe they thought that the danger was over.
Dude has had two happy endings with him building a relationship with Hope and closer to Cassie and being successful and the Avengers both times fuck it up for him.
How I see the timeline between Civil War and Infinity War
GOTGV2 >CW > Strange > BP > HC > Antman/Wasp > Ragnarok > IW
Again, I think the main story is set weeks or a couple months before Thanos comes and the ending matches up with IW
Saw it again with a friend who couldn't see it as he was at AX, kid sized Scott, Luis and the truth serum are still the high points and I forgot who brought it up but the tied to the chair scene was frantic but I still could pay attention to. I will agree once again, I wish they played with the sizes more and I get the feeling Scott had more screentime than Hope but barely.
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Where is Scott going to go? Wakanda? He has no idea what's happening in Wakanda. It happening at the exact same time he goes into the Quantum Realm. Aliens didn't exactly invade, they showed up to five minutes & then left. Scott could have gone to New York, sure. But what's he going to do? Hang out with Wong. He doesn't even know Wong.
Scott is a lot like an adult Peter Parker in that way.
Most of his biggest threats are to his personal life and how being a superhero interferes with that as well as trying to balance all his responsibilities.
He's also a pretty upbeat person with a good sense of humor and a big heart.
Building started out small. Better question would be how they survived being grown.
It'll seem even worse after I tell you
I haven't seen Ant-Man 2 yet
Or Infinity War
I was just thinking about this a few moments ago. You also got living ants in there that I'm sure don't enjoy getting tossed around inside during a car chase. lol
Can you make it clear it's an Avengers 4 spoiler? I clicked it thinking it was an AM or IW spoiler...
They didn't report about the Wakanda battle as far as I know in AOS. In the second to last episode, the news report didn't describe what happened exactly, but its obvious that it is not Wakanda at all going by what we can see in the TV in the background. Most probably the New York City incident where Maw and Obsidian landed on Earth and kidnapped Dr. Strange to their donut spaceship.
Man, this was the first film where I really felt the de-aging tech was pretty much perfect. Virtually imperceivable compared to the real thing. Movies are going to be so crazy looking into the future.
Saw it last night with 2 coworkers.
Enjoyed it, but didn't love it. Fun 2hrs. I usually buy MCU at release, but I'm going to wait until I can find a sale on iTunes.
Solid movie. Just not on par with the rest of Phase 3
Enjoyed it, but didn't love it. Fun 2hrs. I usually buy MCU at release, but I'm going to wait until I can find a sale on iTunes.
Solid movie. Just not on par with the rest of Phase 3
It's amazing. In both times I saw the movie (once with my job, and once with my wife), as soon as the "Directed By Peyton Reed" appeared on the screen, people started filing out.
I'm like, "This is literally the 20th Marvel movie. Do you guys not know how this works?" Then, when the mid credits scene start, the stragglers just stop moving, standing in their seats, blocking the view from the people still sitting down waiting for the post credits stuff. It's so obnoxious.
Oh man, a few kids in my second viewing cried when the mid credits happened. Poor things did not expect that. The reactions to the mid credits are probably my favorite part of the movie, which makes watching it at home when it comes out automatically not as fun for me. XD
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Even Deadpool 2! People left once Directed by came up...
I think some people missed out on that midcredits montage.
Truth. Another excellent mid credits scene that is worth the price of admission. That one is probably one of my favorite mid credits scenes since "The Avengers Initiative" back in 2008.