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Diablos

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sorry, just comically invoking your name to represent anxiety or fear.

House is all but guaranteed? Now you just sound like that Aaron Strife bloke.
Time for a new verb.

I.e. the next progressive agenda being kneecapped out the gate isn't Diablosing, it may very well be a reality if Trump gets another SCOTUS Justice before the end of his Presidency.

I'm more angry than anxious these days.
 
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Cartoon soldiering


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VectorPrime

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Apr 4, 2018
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It's a 75% chance as it stands right now. I feel that the odds are only going to increase as we get closer to November. The polling is amazing already and still might be underestimating Dem enthusiasm and turnout if special elections and primaries are anything to go by.
 

chadskin

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"However, defense counsel has not identified any general or specific threat to defendant's safety at the Alexandria Detention Center. They have not done so, because the professionals at the Alexandria Detention Center are very familiar with housing high-profile defendants including foreign and domestic terrorists, spies and traitors."

woooosh
 

Antrax

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm optimistic. I'm calling the House, and I'm thinking we hold every seat but Indiana, and then pick up NV, AZ, and TN. I'm really bullish about Bredesen
 

Stinkles

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Oct 25, 2017
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House being guaranteed...


Look what Russia was able to achieve with only sparse help inside the US. Now think about what they could achieve with several supporting congressmen and senators, and a larger swathe of those same people concerned they may get swept up in obvious campaign finance crime. And industries who see a very short window to achieve existential goals and survival.

I'm not saying this prevents or guarantees anything - just pointing out that it is a new variable.
 

VectorPrime

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Apr 4, 2018
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House being guaranteed...


Look what Russia was able to achieve with only sparse help inside the US. Now think about what they could achieve with several supporting congressmen and senators, and a larger swathe of those same people concerned they may get swept up in obvious campaign finance crime. And industries who see a very short window to achieve existential goals and survival.

I'm not saying this prevents or guarantees anything - just pointing out that it is a new variable.

Russian interference will be significantly less effective this year than it was in 2016. And it really wasn't much in 2016, it only matters so much because the margins were so crazy thin that it was enough to ultimately decide it.

It was much easier to promote fake news and false narratives against one target, Hillary, especially when people weren't even aware they were doing anything.
 

Zeno

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Oct 25, 2017
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The biggest issue is that even with that chance, this isn't going to be a normal campaign cycle. Every dirty trick that can be used absolutely will be.
 

Slatsunus

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Russian interference will be significantly less effective this year than it was in 2016. And it really wasn't much in 2016, it only matters so much because the margins were so crazy thin that it was enough to ultimately decide it.

It was much easier to promote fake news and false narratives against one target, Hillary, especially when people weren't even aware they were doing anything.
You keep saying that as if it's a fact. Multiple government agency heads have bluntly stated it's still a threat, that we aren't doing enough to repair, that it will probably be worse then last time. Dismissing it is absurd
 

Host Samurai

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Oct 27, 2017
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I've had a good feeling about the House, it's the Senate that I really hope we get to really have this American Nightmare end, but that seems slim.
 

Ithil

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Oct 25, 2017
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Thing about Russian interference is it's a lot more effective when it's about one specific person, Clinton, and not general midterm elections. It's a danger but I think it's greatly diluted. It's why they've (that's Russia, the GOP, and Fox & co, who all are pretty coordinated) been desperately trying to cook up another Hillary boogeyman to no effect.
 

VectorPrime

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Apr 4, 2018
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You keep saying that as if it's a fact. Multiple government agency heads have bluntly stated it's still a threat, that we aren't doing enough to repair, that it will probably be worse then last time. Dismissing it is absurd

Of course it's still a factor. But too many people misunderstand what Russia even did and what they didn't do in 2016. The importance of their interference was greatly enhanced by the particular characteristics of a singular individual Presidential race between Trump and Hillary. Hillary being as (unfairly) hated as she was made it even worse and opened her up to it. You can't just dilute the stuff Russia did between hundreds of individual races across the country without a massive drop in effectiveness. Especially with people now aware that the threat exists.
 

CthulhuSars

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Oct 25, 2017
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I am forever in doubt of anything until the results are in. If you want to feel that 75% is a sure thing that is great.

I felt that people would not vote for a damn clown and well I won't be disappointed in humanity anymore because I have hit rock bottom on having faith in my fellow voters.
 

Stinkles

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Oct 25, 2017
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Russian interference will be significantly less effective this year than it was in 2016. And it really wasn't much in 2016, it only matters so much because the margins were so crazy thin that it was enough to ultimately decide it.

It was much easier to promote fake news and false narratives against one target, Hillary, especially when people weren't even aware they were doing anything.


I was less thinking about bots and influence and more about direct fingers on scales with registrations and ballots. I strongly believe that there are at least a dozen GOP leaders with deep financial and collaborative ties to that scheme. The NRA funding laundry as a single example.
 

VectorPrime

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Apr 4, 2018
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I was less thinking about bots and influence and more about direct fingers on scales with registrations and ballots. I strongly believe that there are at least a dozen GOP leaders with deep financial and collaborative ties to that scheme. The NRA funding laundry as a single example.

The complete decentralization of the process of voting across not only state lines but town lines makes actual vote rigging absurdly difficult. And you'd think that if they were able to do so they'd have done it in any one of the hugely important special elections going back a year. A senate race in ruby red Alabama where the entire state government apparatus is controlled by Republicans would have been the ideal location for fuckery.
 

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Oct 26, 2017
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Holy shit??



Mr. Rosenstein's request was an unusual insertion of politics into federal law enforcement. While the Justice Department has helped work on previous Supreme Court nominations, department lawyers in Washington typically carry out that task, not prosecutors who pursue criminal investigations nationwide.

Wtf? Kavanaugh Kremlin Konnection?
 

Soul Skater

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Oct 25, 2017
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Even if Manchin didn't change the outcome attempting to get a symbolic gesture out of this is bad. His Russian connections means he should have been kept partisan instead oh look one of ours voted for him to so now it's a bipartisan vote

Jones and Heidi are in R+1000000 states too yet aren't doing this
 

CthulhuSars

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Oct 25, 2017
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That seems weird. Is it to help approve him or stop him?

This is in no way helping the approval process as it jams things up with paperwork. Unless for the off chance that RR wants to show the world that this pick has been thoroughly vetted.

Edit: Now that I think about this for another minute showing a overly vetted SC pick could stop the dumpster fire that might happen when/if Trump is impeached or prosecuted for crimes.

Well technically this SC pick should not have happened but he is very clean so we keep him.
 
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