• Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
  • We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Saya

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,972
Chloe went hard after Gigi Hadid and Steve Harvey made some racist Asian jokes last year. Has she ever commented on Logan's antics in public?

Dear Gigi Hadid, As a kid, (and frankly as an adult) people would make fun of me for being Chinese. For having "Asian eyes". I would laugh it off because it was always a "joke", and if I didn't I was being "too sensitive". But in reality it made me feel horrible. Like, just BEING ME was a joke that was not meant to be taken seriously. I was embarrassed of who I was. I dyed my hair blonde to make myself look less Asian just so I could feel "worthy" of the people who made me feel less than. Fortunately, now I know that none of this is true. That my value does not come from how I LOOK, but from my CHARACTER. From how I treat others. I know I am not alone in feeling these things. It hurts my heart to see someone like you, a beautiful young woman with so much influence, act in this inconsiderate way. This does not make you a bad person or racist, however, it does make you ignorant to the pain that your actions can cause others. No matter how unintentional those actions are. And, even if it was just "a joke". So...to the young Asian men and women who are used to laughing off others ignorance, even though deep down you are hurting. I HEAR YOU. You are badass. You are awesome. Who you are is not "funny". YOU determine your self worth. Be proud of who you are. --Also, I'm also sorry for how many run on sentences there are in this letter. Love, Chloe

P.S. While I'm at it, Asian men are super sexy. So with all due respect fuck you Steve Harvey.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQRQlBrDVKN/?hl=en
 

Deleted member 2809

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
25,478
Hmm seems like once you messed up even if you are genuinely sorry it don't seem to matter. Once a racist always a racist. Learn something new every day
21117.jpg
21117.jpg
21117.jpg
21117.jpg
21117.jpg
 

Taki

Attempt to circumvent a ban with an alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,308
Internalized racism or internalized white supremacy is a hell of a drug. And yes, you can be a minority and still subconsciously or consciously uphold and benefit from white supremacy.
 

Pekola

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,507
I was 100% wrong then, and I'm incredibly embarrassed to have held that and many other harmful opinions. I know what change feels like. Logan Paul is not changed.

Don't feel so bad about it. As soon as she replied, it became public. You're allowed to feel how you feel and it doesn't have anything to do with being interested in her or wanting to harrass her, like some of the implications here.

Resetera peeps aren't going to harass her. This forum is supposed to be the opposite of that.
 
Oct 27, 2017
11,514
Bandung Indonesia
He apologized. What has he done since then? You don't seem to understand what onus means. The thread implies Logan is still racist. If people believe that then the onus is not on me to show that he isn't. You have to prove to me he is or else there's no argument.

He never apologized for all of his racist Japanese/Asian videos and tweets, actually, only for his suicide one since that is the one that finally got him into a huge trouble.

Also, let's just agree to disagree. I will always be doubtful when a person who has exposed racism behaviors to millions of people especially for something like YouTube views, suddenly apologizing through a YouTube video, made by a professional PR firm, because he finally received a huge blowback to his act.
 

Deleted member 1726

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
9,661
I wonder how long/if he even will post something along the lines of "How can I be racist, I have an Asian girlfriend" CAMERA SWIVELS 720 TO TOP OF STAIRS "and look here she comes in her Geisha outfit that I make her wear every night".

EVERYDAY BRO, DAB ON THEM HATERS.
 

TickleMeElbow

Member
Oct 31, 2017
2,668
Until these last 7 months. Like, if the receipts show he is racist then I'll believe it, but y'all need to provide something from the last 7 months that shows or severely hints at him still being racist.

He never apologized for the racist shit. Just for the dead body video.

I'm Japanese. Why should I think this motherfucker still isn't racist because he didn't apologize for the racist shit he did towards my people lol? Just because he hasn't gone back to Japan in the last seven months and done more racist shit? That makes no sense.
 

Cabbagehead

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,019
I wonder how long/if he even will post something along the lines of "How can I be racist, I have an Asian girlfriend" CAMERA SWIVELS 720 TO TOP OF STAIRS "and look here she comes in her Geisha outfit that I make her wear every night".

EVERYDAY BRO, DAB ON THEM HATERS.
God sometimes i hate LA, look at what it breeds and allows to grow.
 

MistaTwo

SNK Gaming Division Studio 1
Verified
Oct 24, 2017
2,456
Worth keeping in mind that Chloe Bennet is half Chinese.

If I were a cynical PR hack what better way to paper over a racist problem your 'star' has with Asians that have him appear to 'date' a bi racial actress who is herself half Asian?

Again, if I were a PR hack.

Yeah, I knew that and the fact that she had to change her name because I guess Hollywood execs have the mental capacity of 5th grade playground bullies?
No big surprise there I guess.

That's why it seems so weird she would be fine with her significant other being an absolutely racist douchewad.
I mean it may help his brand, but wouldn't it just hurt hers as well?

The idea that a POC will turn on their own community as soon as they have a bit of success is one of the more disgusting 'fuck you got mine' aspects
of American culture, but it really is not that uncommon.
 

subpar spatula

Refuses to Wash his Ass
Member
Oct 26, 2017
22,153
And how exactly does that makes him ok? Please, do explain.
Doesn't have to be OK in your eyes. Chloe seems to forgive him. All that really matters. Her fanbase doesn't matter.

This is about whether or not the charges that user in Twitter said is true: does Logan Paul represent views she fights against? It's pretty obvious his racist behavior has changed, so that person's question is either outdated or from another place, but overall receipts were asked for. That's it. No receipts, no conversation. Can't start at part 1 and jump directly to part 3 skipping 2. If y'all can't accept that no public displays of racism since then isn't change of sorts then I don't know what to talk about.
 
Oct 27, 2017
11,514
Bandung Indonesia
Racists that legitimately changed their views is such a minuscule amount when compared to racists who don't change their ways or just pretending to change (especially if they're made painfully aware that acting like a racist could hurt their wallet), so much so that usually when it happened it's newsworthy of some sort. In the age of Donald Trump I thought this is something that is understood by many, but I guess for some the default stance should be to give those who have done openly racist shit a benefit of the doubt if they say sorry?
 

duckroll

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,222
Singapore
Don't feel so bad about it. As soon as she replied, it became public. You're allowed to feel how you feel and it doesn't have anything to do with being interested in her or wanting to harrass her, like some of the implications here.

Resetera peeps aren't going to harass her. This forum is supposed to be the opposite of that.
I mean yeah, it's public, and obviously people are discussing it. The originating tweet, and other tweets or social media interactions like it are still gross though. I wish people called out people more on that, instead of rushing head first into the "news" it opened up. Don't you? That's why I'm trying to bring attention why I feel it's problematic.

It doesn't matter if people specifically on ERA don't harass anyone, the way information propagates is the same. Someone posts something to point other people to it. Remember the couple on the plane recently that went viral? Same sort of shit. People are more interested in -talking- about something that generally doesn't concern them, than thinking "hey, did this originate from an invasion of privacy and should we really be encouraging this sort of thing?"

It's something that gets increasingly dangerous as society as a whole has more and more tools which allow us to be interconnected and spread information at a really fast rate, but not the personal self-analytical mentality to ask "because I can, should I?"
 
Oct 29, 2017
956
White men contnue to get the benefit of the doubt I see lol.

Idc who random c list actresses date. Y'all gotta understand anyone in Hollywood who is outspoken about racism is only talking about it when it prevents them from getting roles or awards. Like 99.9999% of the time anyway. They will still take racist roles/say racist lines/ wear racist outfits/ work with racist directors/ work with racist costars and date well known racist. That's like Hollywood 101.
 

MistaTwo

SNK Gaming Division Studio 1
Verified
Oct 24, 2017
2,456
Only if you're of the belief that dabbling in racism is less profitable than the alternative.

I'd excuse anyone that's unsure if that's actually true in 2018.

So you're saying she might be re-branding as 'one of the good ones' now that she has realized we live in a post-racial society and the real racists are the ones calling out racism, which will subsequently make her a symbol for all these alt-right cucks who are racist against everyone except...asian women.

Fuck me, that would probably work in today's climate.
 

Deleted member 8593

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
27,176
Cause there seems to be a drop off in his racist behavior since that incident?

Earlier you were complaining about the standards people hold celebrities to. But you keep lowering the bar for the likes of Logan Paul. Before it was "he apologized and promised to clean up his act". Now it's "there's a drop off in racist behaviour since another barely related incident." Go figure.
 

Cabbagehead

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,019
White men contnue to get the benefit of the doubt I see lol.

Idc who random c list actresses date. Y'all gotta understand anyone in Hollywood who is outspoken about racism is only talking about it when it prevents them from getting roles or awards. Like 99.9999% of the time anyway. They will still take racist roles/say racist lines/ wear racist outfits/ work with racist directors/ work with racist costars and date well known racist. That's like Hollywood 101.
It sucks but that's right.
 

Alice

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
5,867
Sometimes I wonder if there's any topic Spatula won't Devil's Advocate in. Then I remember, it's Spatula.

An instrumentalized apology video that was met with absolutely NO followup (like he promised it would be) is completely meaningless. Her ignoring the racist shit he does, while calling others out for smaller infractions is hella two faced and casts a bad light on her.
 

subpar spatula

Refuses to Wash his Ass
Member
Oct 26, 2017
22,153
Earlier you were complaining about the standards people hold celebrities to. But you keep lowering the bar for the likes of Logan Paul. Before it was "he apologized and promised to clean up his act". Now it's "there's a drop off in racist behaviour since another barely related incident." Go figure.
Is my mistake on his apology a tell for something about me?
 
Oct 27, 2017
11,514
Bandung Indonesia
I mean yeah, it's public, and obviously people are discussing it. The originating tweet, and other tweets or social media interactions like it are still gross though. I wish people called out people more on that, instead of rushing head first into the "news" it opened up. Don't you? That's why I'm trying to bring attention why I feel it's problematic.

It doesn't matter if people specifically on ERA don't harass anyone, the way information propagates is the same. Someone posts something to point other people to it. Remember the couple on the plane recently that went viral? Same sort of shit. People are more interested in -talking- about something that generally doesn't concern them, than thinking "hey, did this originate from an invasion of privacy and should we really be encouraging this sort of thing?"

It's something that gets increasingly dangerous as society as a whole has more and more tools which allow us to be interconnected and spread information at a really fast rate, but not the personal self-analytical mentality to ask "because I can, should I?"

I mean, this whole convo began because a public figure who advertises "I am against racism towards Asians" as part of her creed doing something that many perceive as completely undermining that position, and people react to that. It's completely different from the case of the couple on the plane, who are just a couple of ordinary people.

I mean I doubt people would actually care if she never actually advertised that she fought against racism towards Asians in the first place. I am in the belief that yes, public figure should be held responsible for the stuff they do, especially since they are in a position that influence so many people, and yes people have the right to criticize them if ever they do something counter to the image that they're trying to convey to the public, especially when it revolves something as serious as racism.
 

Cabbagehead

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,019
So you're saying she might be re-branding as 'one of the good ones' now that she has realized we live in a post-racial society and the real racists are the ones calling out racism, which will subsequently make her a symbol for all these alt-right cucks who are racist against everyone except...asian women.

Fuck me, that would probably work in today's climate.
I mean isn't that the case? you speak out against which you do yourself. At least for the ones that get caught, even some of the greatest leaders were hypocrites. But of course not all of them, did it for profit and pr.
 

cdyhybrid

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,422
So you're saying she might be re-branding as 'one of the good ones' now that she has realized we live in a post-racial society and the real racists are the ones calling out racism, which will subsequently make her a symbol for all these alt-right cucks who are racist against everyone except...asian women.

Fuck me, that would probably work in today's climate.
I don't think she's actually going that far, for the record. I don't think *that* poorly of her. I just think she's willingly overlooking some problematic shit that she's spoken out against in the past just because she's too engrossed by whatever she sees in him.

That said, it wouldn't surprise me at all because, again, 2018.
 

kurahador

Member
Oct 28, 2017
17,573
Doesn't have to be OK in your eyes. Chloe seems to forgive him. All that really matters. Her fanbase doesn't matter.

This is about whether or not the charges that user in Twitter said is true: does Logan Paul represent views she fights against? It's pretty obvious his racist behavior has changed, so that person's question is either outdated or from another place, but overall receipts were asked for. That's it. No receipts, no conversation. Can't start at part 1 and jump directly to part 3 skipping 2. If y'all can't accept that no public displays of racism since then isn't change of sorts then I don't know what to talk about.
Here's your logic; a bully stopped bullying for 7 months and counting after getting caught and apologize to the teachers.
The people who gets bullied (which the bully doesn't apologize to) doesn't matter, because the important thing is the class president ---- who took a stance against bullying, forgive him and have sex.
 

Monster Zero

Member
Nov 5, 2017
5,612
Southern California
Yeah, I knew that and the fact that she had to change her name because I guess Hollywood execs have the mental capacity of 5th grade playground bullies?
No big surprise there I guess.

That's why it seems so weird she would be fine with her significant other being an absolutely racist douchewad.
I mean it may help his brand, but wouldn't it just hurt hers as well?

The idea that a POC will turn on their own community as soon as they have a bit of success is one of the more disgusting 'fuck you got mine' aspects
of American culture, but it really is not that uncommon.

As soon as she met some bigot she finds physically/financially attractive all that other stuff went out the window.
 

SilkySm00th

Member
Oct 31, 2017
4,803
Even if he had never said a single racist or insensitive thing the idea that any girl could meet the dude, go home and watch his videos and apparently laugh - enough to want to date the dude?
Ya lost already. Add in the fact that he's obviously a fuckin pile and I just dont get people. I hope it's a work that a PR company put on and she's getting real paid up.

Also: this is why Coulson gets to be in the movies and you dont...
 

subpar spatula

Refuses to Wash his Ass
Member
Oct 26, 2017
22,153
Here's your logic, a bully stopped bullying for 7 months and counting after getting caught and apologize to the teachers.
The people who gets bullied (which the bully doesn't apologize to) doesn't matter, because the important thing is the class president ---- who took a stance against bullying, forgive him and have sex.
Wouldn't this scenario be more appropriate if:

Logan is the bully
Chloe is the person in class who advocates for no bullying

Logan bullies people. Chloe hates him. Logan stop bullying people. Logan and Chloe start dating? Yeah, he didn't go around apologizing for everything he did but does that really matter to Chloe?

I can't speak for Chloe, but actions say she has?
 

Dragonelite

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
544
Yeah, I knew that and the fact that she had to change her name because I guess Hollywood execs have the mental capacity of 5th grade playground bullies?
No big surprise there I guess.

That's why it seems so weird she would be fine with her significant other being an absolutely racist douchewad.
I mean it may help his brand, but wouldn't it just hurt hers as well?

The idea that a POC will turn on their own community as soon as they have a bit of success is one of the more disgusting 'fuck you got mine' aspects
of American culture, but it really is not that uncommon.

Wouldn't be surprised if she has some internalized hate/racism in her its not that uncommon(i had the same thing for like half of my life), i know how it feels being Asian passing in a white mans world.
But i outgrew that phase, and started to embrace being part Asian, also become a lot more aware about how much casual racism against Asians is allowed by white people and POC.
How we should just pass it off as jokes and shit, or the standard "But my gf/wife is an Asian so i can make those jokes right?".

Its also not uncommon for people to profit from social movements(racism, feminism, alt-right etc)just to make a quick buck or two.
 

Pekola

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,507
I mean, this whole convo began because a public figure who advertises "I am against racism towards Asians" as part of her creed doing something that many perceive as completely undermining that position, and people react to that. It's completely different from the case of the couple on the plane, who are just a couple of ordinary people.

I mean I doubt people would actually care if she never actually advertised that she fought against racism towards Asians in the first place. I am in the belief that yes, public figure should be held responsible for the stuff they do, especially since they are in a position that influence so many people, and yes people have the right to criticize them if ever they do something counter to the image that they're trying to convey to the public, especially when it revolves something as serious as racism.

Moreover, as opposed to the couple in the plane, she offered the information by responding to a tweet. Said tweets are broadcasted to all your followers and anyone that it's retweeted to.

The people on the plane are a very different matter. They didn't consent to a quasi-reality show of their romantic lives being broadcasted to the world.
 

y2dvd

Member
Nov 14, 2017
2,481
If you are dating a known shithead, expect people to question your decisions. It's not that hard. I had a co-worker who dated someone abusive to her. Not saying Logan Paul is abusive to Chloe, but I'm gonna make a stink like I need to my former coworker.
 

subpar spatula

Refuses to Wash his Ass
Member
Oct 26, 2017
22,153
No. You eagerness to defend a well-documented racist shithead is. You've been putting a lot of work in for Logan Paul. It is puzzling if not concerning behaviour for someone who supposedly has no vested interest.
Vested interest is a tricky thing. There's nothing wrong with wanting to see what is causing the fanbase to ask Chloe such a question.

What is "concerning" about it?
 

Chaos2Frozen

Member
Nov 3, 2017
28,055
Wouldn't be surprised if she has some internalized hate/racism in her its not that uncommon(i had the same thing for like half of my life), i know how it feels being Asian passing in a white mans world.
But i outgrew that phase, and started to embrace being part Asian, also become a lot more aware about how much casual racism against Asians is allowed by white people and POC.
How we should just pass it off as jokes and shit, or the standard "But my gf/wife is an Asian so i can make those jokes right?".

Its also not uncommon for people to profit from social movements(racism, feminism, alt-right etc)just to make a quick buck or two.

She was supposed to have outgrew that as well

Dear Gigi Hadid, As a kid, (and frankly as an adult) people would make fun of me for being Chinese. For having "Asian eyes". I would laugh it off because it was always a "joke", and if I didn't I was being "too sensitive". But in reality it made me feel horrible. Like, just BEING ME was a joke that was not meant to be taken seriously. I was embarrassed of who I was. I dyed my hair blonde to make myself look less Asian just so I could feel "worthy" of the people who made me feel less than. Fortunately, now I know that none of this is true. That my value does not come from how I LOOK, but from my CHARACTER. From how I treat others. I know I am not alone in feeling these things. It hurts my heart to see someone like you, a beautiful young woman with so much influence, act in this inconsiderate way. This does not make you a bad person or racist, however, it does make you ignorant to the pain that your actions can cause others. No matter how unintentional those actions are. And, even if it was just "a joke". So...to the young Asian men and women who are used to laughing off others ignorance, even though deep down you are hurting. I HEAR YOU. You are badass. You are awesome. Who you are is not "funny". YOU determine your self worth. Be proud of who you are. --Also, I'm also sorry for how many run on sentences there are in this letter. Love, Chloe

P.S. While I'm at it, Asian men are super sexy. So with all due respect fuck you Steve Harvey.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQRQlBrDVKN/?hl=en
 

Cuburger

Member
Oct 28, 2017
10,975
Is my mistake on his apology a tell for something about me?
For someone claiming others needing to show receipts for recent racist actions to prove he hasn't changed, you seem pretty cavalier about the details of his apology that is supposed to show his change in the first place.

Just a reminder that you are white-knighting for someone was acted racist and insensitive and only apologized for the deadbody video because he was feeling pressure to his fiances.
 

cdyhybrid

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,422
If you are dating a known shithead, expect people to question your decisions. It's not that hard. I had a co-worker who dated someone abusive to her. Not saying Logan Paul is abusive to Chloe, but I'm gonna make a stink like I need to my former coworker.
Ehhh that's a flawed comparison, IMO. There are power dynamics in play in abusive relationships that make it difficult for the one being abused to get out.
 

duckroll

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,222
Singapore
If you are dating a known shithead, expect people to question your decisions. It's not that hard. I had a co-worker who dated someone abusive to her. Not saying Logan Paul is abusive to Chloe, but I'm gonna make a stink like I need to my former coworker.
In this scenario you aren't a co-worker, you're someone who doesn't know any of these people, wanting to impose your opinion on them. Do people really think celebrities are their friends or even acquaintances? Lmao.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.