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chadskin

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Oct 27, 2017
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Crisis averted (for now)!



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U.S. President Donald Trump threatened to break with NATO and conduct American security unilaterally — if allies do not immediately meet higher military spending targets, NATO officials and diplomats said.

Trump's warned of "grave consequences" if allies do not immediately meet higher spending targets, derailing a morning meeting of NATO leaders with the leaders of Georgia and Ukraine on the second day of a NATO leaders' summit on Thursday.
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg immediately shifted the meeting of the North Atlantic Council, the alliance's top political body, into an allies-only emergency session.

NATO officials said Trump was furious over media coverage suggesting that the first day of the summit had proceeded calmly, and that he had demanded to hold a press conference immediately after the morning meeting.
https://www.politico.eu/article/trump-threatens-to-pull-out-of-nato/
 
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xbhaskarx

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Oct 27, 2017
5,143
NorCal
NATO is the most important global alliance of the post-war era, and crucial to US interests.

Trump needs to be impeached asap!
 

Lackless

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Oct 27, 2017
4,137
There's no way NATO will let things go that far. The US is it's largest contributor by a mile.
 

MistaTwo

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Oct 24, 2017
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He's a piece of shit wasteman who just wants to bully them over money.

And it will probably work.
 
Oct 27, 2017
11,514
Bandung Indonesia
Goddamn whoever succeeds Trump would have a HELL of a job to restore US' stature in the international community.

That is if he's not getting re-elected in the first place, goddamn.
 

Polaroid_64

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Oct 25, 2017
1,920
Our trust is pretty much gone. Even if the next president is normal, they know now we are capable of putting another Putin bitch boy right back in office.
 

Isee

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Oct 25, 2017
6,235
Arguing with Trump is like playing Chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the bird is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
 

ɣGammaɣ

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Oct 26, 2017
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Our trust is pretty much gone. Even if the next president is normal, they know now we are capable of putting another Putin bitch boy right back in office.

Think so too. The US can't be seen as a reliable partner in the future. The EU and all partners should make arrangements without the US. It really is getting on my nerves, every few years they terrorise the world with some stupid ideas.
 

Deleted member 20603

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Oct 28, 2017
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Goddamn whoever succeeds Trump would have a HELL of a job to restore US' stature in the international community.

That is if he's not getting re-elected in the first place, goddamn.

That's the part where he appears 24/7 on the news to call it an apology tour and they take him as a guest because he was a former president. And we all have to listen to his garbage opinions until the end of time
 

Snack12367

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Oct 28, 2017
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How much longer before a Coupe in the US?

Their first oath, at least to my limited knowledge, is to the defense Constitution of the US against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Ignoring all the other stuff Trump has done to shit on the Constitution, his pulling out of NATO represents a clear threat to the US.

Pulling out of NATO isn't just dumb, it's dangerous, not just for the US, but the whole world.
 

Polaroid_64

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Oct 25, 2017
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We have elected Dems telling us to be civil and moderates tone policing.

At what point do both groups shut the fuck up and go after Trump and his cronies?

Or is lecturing the left so important even though our country is crumbling down?
 

Funky Papa

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Oct 28, 2017
4,694
I believe Trump cannot unilaterally pull out from NATO. At very least the law is not clear at all.

But he can absolutely destroy it from within if that's what he wants, so I guess there's that.

The reason I believe he won't go postal right away is the fact that American bases across Europe have become the primordial operation centres for missions across Africa and the Middle East. If he pulls out, he essentially erases America as the current hegemon and greatly endangers it's standing as a proper superpower.

It's going to be a shitshow either way.
 

Protome

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Oct 27, 2017
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Can...can Trump do that? Like can the President take the country out of NATO without Senate/House support?
 

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Funky Papa

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Oct 28, 2017
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Somebody round up the self-professed Reaganite lawmakers and ask them what they think about this.

For the lulz.
 

Polaroid_64

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Oct 25, 2017
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I believe Trump cannot unilaterally pull out from NATO. At very least the law is not clear at all.

But he can absolutely destroy it from within if that's what he wants, so I guess there's that.

The reason I believe he won't go postal right away is the fact that American bases across Europe have become the primordial operation centres for missions across Africa and the Middle East. If he pulls out, he essentially erases America as the current hegemon and greatly endangers it's standing as a proper superpower.

It's going to be a shitshow either way.

Yes he can. The law is not clear.

And no one will do anything about it. As in elected officials.

It's up to us to end this madness.
 

jelly

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Oct 26, 2017
33,841
Trump needs other heads of state to rise to it and talk back but that just escalates things which Trump and Putin want. If others stay the course Trump has no excuse to leave.

Still, kinda crazy Trump is a Russian puppet. How do you contain such a thing. America will never be seen in a good light again until Trump and others are in prison, they cannot brush the Trump admin under the carpet and save the the blushes of the establishment, they need to air the dirty laundry.
 

GaimeGuy

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Oct 25, 2017
5,092
Can trump just die already? Everything he does harms human civilization.

Every single thing that contributes to the American sphere of influence and stability across the world, he attacks and dismantles. It would be better if we didn't have a president than to have Trump as one.
 

Funky Papa

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Oct 28, 2017
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Eastern Europe especially Poland must be shitting themselves. US Congress needs to be dragged out of bed asap to halt this madness.
About time. Poland has been a bit of a spoiler when it comes to defence by trying to play for both America and the EU.

Time to realise where your real friends are, I guess.
 

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As long as he is in office he will continue on his quest to corrupt and divide & conquer anything that stands in his way for the sole purpose of personal empowerment and profit. He doesn't give a shit about the good of others. I truly believe this person is capable of killing babies if it means more power for him. Heck, he might even do it for fun. What an ugly sorry creature.