All the time vortex talk somehow in my mind came off as a "when they need to undo the snap in avengers 4 Scott will suggest to use it to go back in time" rather than his ticket out of the quantum real.
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AVENGERS 4 | Speculation Thread (Open Spoilers, Set Photos and Leaks)
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All the time vortex talk somehow in my mind came off as a "when they need to undo the snap in avengers 4 Scott will suggest to use it to go back in time" rather than his ticket out of the quantum real.
I mean isn't she like the most powerful MCU hero ever? I would totally buy that the Power cosmic or wtf ever it is she has slows human aging down. Presumably when they pick a new Captain Marvel they want it to be a long term position and not like... 60 years.
Disclaimer: I know nothing about Captain Marvel
That scene Sebastian Stan talked about involving getting a lot of actors together, it was all snapped people wasn't it?
Samuel L Jackson, Michael Douglas, Michelle Pfeiffer, himself.
Samuel L Jackson, Michael Douglas, Michelle Pfeiffer, himself.
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The leaked set pics of Tony, Cap, Banner and Scott in NY form the first Avengers is part of B.A.R.F?
Old Tony is there, and Scott. And Scott wasn't part of the Battle of New York.
What if it's just their revival scene and everyone is standing around after being undusted?
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Where do you see Old Tony?
Does that mean it's time travel and not B.A.R.F?
From what people can gather, they're traveling to specific periods in the MCU.
http://www.justjared.com/photo-gall...tch-paul-rudd-avengers-infinity-war-scene-04/
this scene never happened in avengers 3 or antman 2 ManaByte what gives
this scene never happened in avengers 3 or antman 2 ManaByte what gives
I remember there being a set picture with Tony being in Shield gear. Are we supposed to take that as post-IW? Not any time stuff? Cause if so, please, if they have him take over shield, just say at least one line of dialogue like:
"Shield was needed, after the snap people were going crazy, mass hysteria. After what happened in Chicago while we were distracted by Thanos, those that were there and who still remained thought highly of Shield for their quick action. So it was natural to bring it back."
They don't need any Shield characters to appear, but goddamn one line would mean the world. Though I have no idea what the timetables were from when Shield finished filming and A4 filmed.
"Shield was needed, after the snap people were going crazy, mass hysteria. After what happened in Chicago while we were distracted by Thanos, those that were there and who still remained thought highly of Shield for their quick action. So it was natural to bring it back."
They don't need any Shield characters to appear, but goddamn one line would mean the world. Though I have no idea what the timetables were from when Shield finished filming and A4 filmed.
I honestly think the most challenging aspect of Nova is having to promote a character named Dick Ryder.
It might be the most difficult thing Marvel Studios will have ever had to overcome.
It might be the most difficult thing Marvel Studios will have ever had to overcome.
The Paul Rudd scenes are him filming A4.
The Cumberbatch photos are him filming his IW scenes. The Central Park scene and the Ebony Maw scenes.
They were filmed a few blocks from each other, which is why the photos came out at the same time.
Or they could just use Sam.
LOL, no I'm kidding I'd rather have Dick Rider.
Set photos show Tony with lighter colored hair. Some have said it's gray hair (hence 'old Tony') but to me it just looks blonde. Maybe that's just the light though.
Since every Avengers movie after the first Avengers has been about time. Age of Ultron and Infinity War. Maybe Avenger 4s title will be about time considering the Russos said Avengers Forever is the closest fans have guessed.
Avengers: End of Time
Avengers: Time Game
Avengers: Forever After
Oh, old as in "age". thought for some reason you meant "old" as in "Iron Man 1/2/Avengers" Tony.
Avengers: End of Time
Avengers: Time Game
Avengers: Forever After
Oh, old as in "age". thought for some reason you meant "old" as in "Iron Man 1/2/Avengers" Tony.
Any thought on wherever Loki is truly dead? I know the set pics, but they are from the NY battle.
We might see him in a4, but I think he's dead after this.
Also, with the movie coming out, I'm thinking about a4 again. I can't wait for the Tony/Steve reunion.
I think he's 100% gone. "No resurrections this time" was surely deliberate.
Yeah they were basically winking at the audience with this line. If he comes back for real it would completely undermine its meaning.
I've watched way too many Youtube videos and read too many Avengers 4 theories. Are we assuming Captain Marvel is in space or in the quantum realm?
Ironman's survival was crucial to winning which means he probably leads the research thinktank along with Banner and Shuri on harnessing the Quantum Realm.
Captain Marvel may be the strongest Avenger but I doubt Thanos will be defeated by raw strength alone but rather ingenuity so she will be a big part of the plan the Avengers come up with.
I know time travel is assumed but I'm guessing they'll be dimension hopping and maybe borrowing infinity stones from the other realms to make another infinity gauntlet which Tony or Cap wield to reverse the snap.
Ironman's survival was crucial to winning which means he probably leads the research thinktank along with Banner and Shuri on harnessing the Quantum Realm.
Captain Marvel may be the strongest Avenger but I doubt Thanos will be defeated by raw strength alone but rather ingenuity so she will be a big part of the plan the Avengers come up with.
I know time travel is assumed but I'm guessing they'll be dimension hopping and maybe borrowing infinity stones from the other realms to make another infinity gauntlet which Tony or Cap wield to reverse the snap.
This should be the post-credits teaser. Something small, like the Xavier school + the X-Men musical theme from the animated show or something.
Won't be happening since the deal might not be even finished by then. Even if the deal is done they have very little time to plan and orchestrate it fitting in with future installments and plans.
That's why the post-credits scene should be very short and minimal. It doesn't set up anything except "hey, the X-Men are part of this universe now". No actors, nothing.
But there's a FoX-Men film coming out after A4 already too.
I think there is a 100% chance it just ends up on the Disney streaming service and not in theaters.
Funny how both versions of this scene tackle such different ideas at their core. While this version tackles Gamora's complicitness, the theatrical release is about selling Thanos' conviction in how "wonderful" the aftermath is at the other side of his genocide.
Both are solid but they chose the stronger one for the film. The balance of emotions between Thanos and Gamora is really fantastic in the final film. This scene feels a little unbalanced. Maybe it's Thanos actually being angry.
The offhand, throwaway delivery of Bolin's dialogue is such a fun curveball for the character. He's just walking through the end of the universe like an old man in a park.
I think its possible X-Men could play a role in the post credits or maybe even a small cameo (recast) during the movie itself if Disney made a secret separate deal with Fox before the acquisition. Doctor strange already introduced the multiverse which can help explain any re-casted X-Men from Fox's X-Men universe while also keeping Fox's universe separate. Even though Fox's X-Men aren't part of the MCU they may be part of the overall multiverse.
I think the multiverse is going to tie everything together in Avengers 4. We already know of dimensions like the quantum realm, astral dimension, mirror dimension, dark dimension, etc. And the ancient one talked about their universe being one of infinitely many... And then showed the dark dimension during that same scene so 'dimension' and 'universe' may be interchangeable words.
If time travel is involved then we may get some exposition of the many world's theory from one of the scientist characters. Like if they go back in time and alter the past (or maybe borrow something like an infinity stone), they cant just travel back to their future but may need something like a sling ring to get back to their own universe. With infinite universes, that means there are probably infinite copies of themselves, infinite infinity stones/gauntlets.
I think the multiverse is going to tie everything together in Avengers 4. We already know of dimensions like the quantum realm, astral dimension, mirror dimension, dark dimension, etc. And the ancient one talked about their universe being one of infinitely many... And then showed the dark dimension during that same scene so 'dimension' and 'universe' may be interchangeable words.
If time travel is involved then we may get some exposition of the many world's theory from one of the scientist characters. Like if they go back in time and alter the past (or maybe borrow something like an infinity stone), they cant just travel back to their future but may need something like a sling ring to get back to their own universe. With infinite universes, that means there are probably infinite copies of themselves, infinite infinity stones/gauntlets.
X-Men absolutely will not be in the credits. The deal will not be finalized in time.
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He is talking about a deal besides the Fox-Disney merger. Which highly likely isn't the case either.
Couldn't do a deal such as that 'secretly', there'd be leaks and then it would have to be announced anyway.
And why would Disney buy X-Men if they were preparing a bid to acquire Fox in general anyway.
People need to stop the X-Men in Avengers 4 Post-Credits - it won't happen.
And I'm betting X-Men are on ice for a few years, and we'll see Fantastic 4/elements from F4 before an X-Men film.
you missed the obvious
Avengers: Forever War.
Cap is told back when/before he became super soldier cap about what important events that need to happen, and who he has to save to fight thanos.
Cap also learns that this will probably end in his death, but he is the only character that has the will to follow through, and as a result, Cap gets stuck in a time loop forever fighting thanos so the universe could survive.