It doesn't sound like that at all. Don't try to drum up some controversy.
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Octopath Traveler Review Thread
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It doesn't sound like that at all. Don't try to drum up some controversy.
Yeah, I thought his review was fine. He did say something important: "Don't rush through this game. It's intended to be played slowly."
I think the developers have said as much, about playing before bed for an hour at a time. This is definitely meant to be more of a leisure game rather than something you binge.
But most of the reviewes didn't even finish the 8 stories, at least a few admited during the review that they only finished X/8 stories.
I think the review threads here get pretty ridiculous too but it's not that deep. The game has pretty positive reviews and if you're excited for the game then be excited, don't get twisted up over this.
There is a lot of difference between even FFIV and FFVI when it comes to dungeon design.
I give them credit for trying the whole 8 separate stories thing but it was the main reason I couldn't bring myself to go all in and preorder. The fact that the characters don't interact is a bummer as well.
I will be keeping an eye out on ERA impressions going forward and hope to get the game eventually, the art style, music and combat system were fantastic in the demos.
I will be keeping an eye out on ERA impressions going forward and hope to get the game eventually, the art style, music and combat system were fantastic in the demos.
85 MC after 31 reviews. Think the addition of the IGN review boosted them up a point, since I believe IGN would have a rather large weight in MC's review system.
Sure, I can appreciate that - the only Shreier reviews on JRPG I recall are this, Ni No Kuni 2 and XC2. I'll have to dig around to read some of his others.
Primarily, would like to know his thoughts on the GOAT, Golden Sun.
Seems that people's brain are always turned off in these kind of thread.
Dungeons being the same is a valid complaint. In the demo they are all like 1 screen long with a main path, 1 major chest and 2-3 side chests. It doesn't seems there are puzzles or gimmicks in dungeons which is a wasted opportunity considering the characters' path action. Would you say all the dungeons in a classic RPG like Lufia 2 are the same (Puzzles)? Or in FF5/FF6 (events, timer, puzzles)? Or SMT 1/2 (warp tiles, reverse tiles, moon phase doors, damage floors)?
Requiring much less time to beat the game than the target time said by the developers is pretty normal and it's not because reviewers are lazy or rushing it through either. Seems like it takes about 35-40 hours to beat it all and much of is grinding. It seems to fall in line with what the demo offered.
The demo offered a glimpse of what the game was about. A cheaply produced JPRG with a pixel-based artstyle reminiscent of 16 bit RPGs putting gameplay before storytelling. The 8 stories being actually short, the characters not interacting much between each others, the dungeons being simple and repetitive, much of the game being grinding, much of the NPCs around the world cannot be talked too, story sequences ignoring you have a party with you all seem to imply they had to cut corners to make it.
And frankly using Xenoblade 2 as a barometer whether to trust someone's review is kind of awkward. It's also perfectly fine to not like it and you're not on the side of enlightenment if you did love it.
Dungeons being the same is a valid complaint. In the demo they are all like 1 screen long with a main path, 1 major chest and 2-3 side chests. It doesn't seems there are puzzles or gimmicks in dungeons which is a wasted opportunity considering the characters' path action. Would you say all the dungeons in a classic RPG like Lufia 2 are the same (Puzzles)? Or in FF5/FF6 (events, timer, puzzles)? Or SMT 1/2 (warp tiles, reverse tiles, moon phase doors, damage floors)?
Requiring much less time to beat the game than the target time said by the developers is pretty normal and it's not because reviewers are lazy or rushing it through either. Seems like it takes about 35-40 hours to beat it all and much of is grinding. It seems to fall in line with what the demo offered.
The demo offered a glimpse of what the game was about. A cheaply produced JPRG with a pixel-based artstyle reminiscent of 16 bit RPGs putting gameplay before storytelling. The 8 stories being actually short, the characters not interacting much between each others, the dungeons being simple and repetitive, much of the game being grinding, much of the NPCs around the world cannot be talked too, story sequences ignoring you have a party with you all seem to imply they had to cut corners to make it.
And frankly using Xenoblade 2 as a barometer whether to trust someone's review is kind of awkward. It's also perfectly fine to not like it and you're not on the side of enlightenment if you did love it.
Bewildering Grace is a skill for Primrose that can give you some very random effects, both positive and negative, but some of them are as insane as EXP or JP x100.
Caits are a type of rare enemy that give you a lot of EXP and JP.
Now put the two together...
Double-digit hours of repetitive JRPG gameplay sounds like just the kind of pain I love. Even more hyped for the game, hurt me more!
Relax.
It's cool you're hyped. The reviews are good, stop lashing out.
Personally, the art style doesn't work for me at all - like, i'm watching the Giantbomb Quicklook and i'm not feeling the urge to play this game whatsoever. Maybe because i don't share any kind of nostalgia / affection for these styles of JRPGs.
It's a random effect ability. You have a chance of getting any of those when you use it.
Is this seriously the game icon? I hope they update it:
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Decent reception. I think I'll be skipping because I found the writing in Primrose's demo to be painfully overdone. Really wish studios could find a way to hire writers that will be given freedom to be subtle and original. rpgs are so tropey it's hard to stomach them. Bravely Default being one of the worst in recent memory.
Caits are enemies that appear occasionally in any area of the game and give exponentially greater EXP than any other enemies. If you defeat one—they're highly evasive, but are easy to beat with magic or multi-hit abilities—your characters will level multiple times.
Primrose's Bewildering Grace is an ability that applies an assortment of randomized buffs, debuffs, and other effects to allies and enemies. Two of the possible effects are EXP or JP multipliers, up to possible x100. Needless to say, if you get lucky against a Cait, you will never need to grind.
People were achieving higher levels in the 3hr demo than the main game requires.
The counter example is FFVII itself. Honestly, people really forgot what made FF games special. FF games have a tons of variety. Even your structure is wrong for FF. Your party changes throughout the journey, the gameplay changes. You have stealth sections, dressing cloud up as a girl, the strategy mini games, gold saucer, vehicle mini game, chocobo breeding etc. These games are well paced, ensuring you keep your attention.
I don't understand how can play those games and say they follow that structure.
It's at 85! 88 isn't impossible! Go OT, go!
Edit: Back to 84.
Edit 2: Back to 85.
I should wait.
Edit: Back to 84.
Edit 2: Back to 85.
I should wait.
As far as I know they are all worth the same, that's why the '' drama '' of when Jim Sterling analyzed BOTW
I don't think they will. The demo icon was the same as that with "Prologue demo" under it. That's the branding.
Yep this is a review thread alright.
84 is a good score , enough to make me wonder and play to make my own opinion. I don't need a RPG to be above 90 in metacritic to enjoy it. Flawed experience have their charm.
The good thing is that i can accept and enjoy everyone review more since i've played 3hours of the game already. Like i already have tasted a small feel of the game so i really understand the critics.
84 is a good score , enough to make me wonder and play to make my own opinion. I don't need a RPG to be above 90 in metacritic to enjoy it. Flawed experience have their charm.
The good thing is that i can accept and enjoy everyone review more since i've played 3hours of the game already. Like i already have tasted a small feel of the game so i really understand the critics.
Yes(?) I used to play IX yearly and I had my grinding spot where I got everyone to level 60 to 70.
Many classic JRPGs don't require grinding, you fight the enemies along your way and you should get enough exp. No need for extra grinding. Even those that do vary in the amount of grinding needed. Stop making it sounds like every JRPG is a grindfest. Seriously did you grind in Chrono Trigger?
I played FFIX three times and never reached level 60 when I fought the final boss. In fact in one low-level run my average level was below 20.
Picking it up on Friday. Will play it once I finish the Splatfest matches this week. Reviews look great. Some of you guys need to stop thinking that lower 80's is a bad score. Oh and read more than just one review. If I only depended on one review then I'd have skipped half the games I've played.
Good reviews, but the mentioned flaws convinced me to wait for a price-drop. I still have too many unfinished JRPGs laying around anyways.
Well, yes, that part is known and I said that. That it's not an overarching epic. I never disputed that. Maybe intersect was the wrong word? English is not my native language. But that said, Nadia says that the characters do indeed interact and has diverse development between them, keepin in spirit with the personal way the stories are told and it is handled well.
You know, it is quite possible for others to have had a different experience of how it is handled than you did?
Eh....?
8 characters + 4 chapters each.
1 chapter = around one hour
so 32 hours.
+ optional dungeons
2 hours
So 34 hours
and 2 hours of "grindy battles" ???
total 36 hours...?
Something doesn't add up here!
Yeah, that ridiculous anime girl is pretty absurd. Hope they change it too.
So how much have you played actually by yourself to give such a precise overview? You gained all your knowledge from 2-3 reviews (most of it the one from Kotaku and RPGSite) and are telling other people, they turn off their brains off during such a thread. Well, seems like I have to read more reviews to open the secret passageways of my brain and mind.
They're not:
I doubt IGN and Gamespot wouldn't get a higher weight than non-mainstream outlets tbh.Metacritic said:
Never understood where the hype for this came from, looks like a mobile game. And now we know it also has a bad story and is grindy... Do yourself a favour and buy a classic JRPG on your phone.
I agree, I see why some people are disappointed with Xc2 and some of the game's decisions (even if I love the game). On the other hand, saying that Ni no Kuni 2 is a very good RPG is far beyond me.
Each chapter does not take an hour. Many of them took me 20-30 minutes.Eh....?
8 characters + 4 chapters each.
1 chapter = around one hour
so 32 hours.
+ optional dungeons
2 hours
So 34 hours
and 2 hours of "grindy battles" ???
total 36 hours...?
Something doesn't add up here!
Not trying to drum up controversy. It's just thatthe phrase "It's not clear whether the game contains any sort of bonus endgame content—Nintendo says that it does" could have been written more like, say, "Nintendo has said the game has bonus endgame content but I have not been able to discover how to access it" to sound a bit less confrontational towards Nintendo's apparent statement. Just a minor thing that amused me a bit.
It sounds like Octopath may have a "true ending" path that unlocks after the completion of certain criteria, so it'll be interesting to see how that pans out once people are able to dig into the game without the time limitations of needing to write a review by the release date.
This is reviewing in the Bravely Default ballpark, which is exactly what I expected. Hardly essential, but far outstripping the likes of I Am Setsuna and that other one no one played.
It's on my 'to play' list. Now to wait until it's a sensible price.
It's on my 'to play' list. Now to wait until it's a sensible price.
