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Sir Guts

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Is tha artbook going to be in the limited edition?
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I'll be announcing something 'cool' next week. Till then, FEEL THE HEAT!
Then you should've been quiet till next week :')
 
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Son of Sparda

Son of Sparda

The Wise Ones
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Oct 25, 2017
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Post this when people say that they've played Zero and Kiwami but aren't sure if they can play Y6 and understand the story. It's super short and barely spoils the other games (outside of 5's ending)
 

stupei

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Oct 26, 2017
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Trying to Platinum Yakuza 0 has been a real exercise in patience. A lot of the things I anticipated being really hard -- mahjong in particular -- just took me a little time to understand the mechanics, but man Outrun is killing me.

I always sucked at this game as a kid, and I suck at it now, I guess. As much as people complain about RNG based completion items, nothing has actually felt as random to me as whether or not another car decides to swerve across five lanes when I'm already boxed in to basically stop right in front of me. It wouldn't be so bad if the arcade games didn't (realistically) take forever to restart.
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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Trying to Platinum Yakuza 0 has been a real exercise in patience. A lot of the things I anticipated being really hard -- mahjong in particular -- just took me a little time to understand the mechanics, but man Outrun is killing me.

I always sucked at this game as a kid, and I suck at it now, I guess. As much as people complain about RNG based completion items, nothing has actually felt as random to me as whether or not another car decides to swerve across five lanes when I'm already boxed in to basically stop right in front of me. It wouldn't be so bad if the arcade games didn't (realistically) take forever to restart.

Restarts are annoying true, but I found the easiest way to do Outrun is the following:

Firstly I personally found the following route easiest: From the first stage when you get the option of going left or right, I go right. Seems like its the easier option for me. Then at the end of the second stage I go right again. By the time you hit the third stage (get about half way through I think?) you should have enough points to clear Outrun.

Also, when it comes to opponents in Outrun the most important thing to do is never overtake if you feel they will screw you over. You'll lose more time after a crash than you will breaking and overtaking on a straight. When going round corners, keep in mind that shifting down for a moment or two, then back up (if speed allows) is far more effective at regulating your speed and fixing your position on the road than breaking. You should lose less speed as well. Its also really good if you feel your about to hit a car, as shifting down will give you enough distance from the car in front.

Now just drive safe. You should have more than enough time to reach stage 3 just by driving safe, fairly certain you can crash once as well and still easily net the high score. I can get 8,000,000 points on a bad day doing it that way. Only thing to really be careful with is one turn on stage 2 - 3/4 of the way through the course there is a really tight series of turns just as you get the stone walls appear on both sides (previously only on one side). Just break/shift down at this point - overtaking is just not worth it as its so easy to crash that you should just hold back and take it careful (as the last bit is probably the trickiest due to the reduced maneuverability thanks to the walls.
 

stupei

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Oct 26, 2017
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What's screwing me up is I have no idea what the points in Outrun are actually based on. It's definitely not just distance traveled, because sometimes I'm halfway through route 3 and time runs out -- because I'm driving cautious -- with me at about 4.8 million and sometimes it's all the way down near 4.1 million, without crashing either time. I never try to overtake, I always break or downshift, but then I find that I run out of time because they are constantly cutting me off. I feel like there must be something specific to the way I'm driving that's triggering the AI to do that so often, but I'm not sure what.

Edit: And sorry if I sounded terse; I do appreciate the suggestions. I'm just bitter because I keep thinking of the actual hours of my life I am never getting back from Outrun of all things.
 
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matrix-cat

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Oct 27, 2017
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I can't play Outrun either, and I definitely can't play Space Harrier. When that one King challenged me to a game of Outrun to take over his district I half-panicked because I knew I'd lose and I thought I'd have to take over the whole district again or something (thankfully you don't actually have to beat him at it). I'll take on all comers at Karaoke or Disco Dancing, but I can't do the arcade games at all.
 

stupei

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Oct 26, 2017
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After (seriously) hours of trying, I took a break to eat dinner and just not look at it for a bit, and then came back and got it on the second go. That was the last of the arcade games, and one of the last things on the way to 100% completion. Feels good.

I can't play Outrun either, and I definitely can't play Space Harrier. When that one King challenged me to a game of Outrun to take over his district I half-panicked because I knew I'd lose and I thought I'd have to take over the whole district again or something (thankfully you don't actually have to beat him at it). I'll take on all comers at Karaoke or Disco Dancing, but I can't do the arcade games at all.

Yeah, I totally thought I was going to have to grind for that part of the district again too. I almost refreshed back to my save right before right after I lost. Very glad I didn't, obviously.
 

Aurc

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Oct 28, 2017
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All those hobo park games and mahjong are looking to be the most tedious impediments on my path to 100%. It's cool that they're in there and all, but I do prefer the minigames that are more distinct and unique to Yakuza, like karaoke, pocket circuit, and even the telephone club.
 

Suede

Gotham's Finest
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Oct 28, 2017
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My main complaint with Yakuza 0 at the moment is how long some cutscenes go on for and how slow the text boxes can be, it makes some chapters feel far longer than they actually are. It's making it hard for me to have long sessions with it.
 

Adryuu

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Oct 27, 2017
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Telephone club made me chuckle the first round with my wrong answers but it doesn't work well. I've never actually managed to win it (haven't tried a lot though) and I lost my 10% the one time I competed.

In Outrun I've made up to 6 mill but I'm quite bad and it was actually competing, which doesn't only not count towards completion list but I suspect makes it easier too, because playing by myself I've never got past 4 mill. Is it possible or placebo?

I'm already convinced I'm not going for completion. Too many Japanese games I can't play (let alone win) and weapon collecting and ugh... But mini games and arcades I enjoy quite a bit even if I can't score shit in many.
 

Adryuu

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Oct 27, 2017
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My main complaint with Yakuza 0 at the moment is how long some cutscenes go on for and how slow the text boxes can be, it makes some chapters feel far longer than they actually are. It's making it hard for me to have long sessions with it.

Pre rendered tend to be short and the others you can press X to fill the text instantly and read and press again for the next one, cutting dubs even. It's good also for the opposite, if you miss some lines because it's too fast, you can force wait for X in every text box by pressing while it fills.

But if you mean some dialogues are just long, yeah, that sometimes can happen.
 

Suede

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Oct 28, 2017
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Pre rendered tend to be short and the others you can press X to fill the text instantly and read and press again for the next one, cutting dubs even. It's good also for the opposite, if you miss some lines because it's too fast, you can force wait for X in every text box by pressing while it fills.

But if you mean some dialogues are just long, yeah, that sometimes can happen.
Yeah sometimes I speed it up with X, but I think some dialogue scenes go on far too long. I really love everything else about it though, so it's not ruining the game for me or anything, just wish I could play it for longer stretches without getting worn out lol.
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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Telephone club made me chuckle the first round with my wrong answers but it doesn't work well. I've never actually managed to win it (haven't tried a lot though) and I lost my 10% the one time I competed.

In Outrun I've made up to 6 mill but I'm quite bad and it was actually competing, which doesn't only not count towards completion list but I suspect makes it easier too, because playing by myself I've never got past 4 mill. Is it possible or placebo?

I'm already convinced I'm not going for completion. Too many Japanese games I can't play (let alone win) and weapon collecting and ugh... But mini games and arcades I enjoy quite a bit even if I can't score shit in many.

Telephone clubs are easy. Go for the most expensive session that gives you the most time and if its not clear which option to go for, just wait. After a few seconds the correct answer will start flashing. Of course there are several girls you can meat that are tied to side stories based on who call you up, and bar the lingerie colour and the voice its pretty difficult to tell which one your going to meet as they all seem to give similar/same canned responses to Kiryu's questions.
There is one little thing that I picked up on through playing the mini game loads - when answering the phone the initial QTE to pick up the phone is sometimes really slow or really fast - if the QTE is really slow (i.e. you have plenty of time to hit the button prompt) your going to meet one of the "joke" characters who will waste Kiryu's time. If you get one of the quick button prompts then your meeting one of the correct girls. You can just keep hanging up/screwing up the QTE's at the beginning until you get the right girl calling you.
 

gachapin

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Oct 25, 2017
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I didn't mean anything to you but a crying baby face mark (´・ω・`)

Yeah sometimes I speed it up with X, but I think some dialogue scenes go on far too long. I really love everything else about it though, so it's not ruining the game for me or anything, just wish I could play it for longer stretches without getting worn out lol.

Hold R1 and press X. This makes texts show up line by line.
 

Adryuu

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Oct 27, 2017
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Of course there are several girls you can meat

Oh I didn't know this was that kind of game... :P

No, seriously, I meant the right answers often drift behind the wrong ones for most of the time until time is almost up and the right stick control is not very well implemented for my taste, plus aiming so, speaking usability, it's a bit poor I think. I've only really played it two times total (once it was on a billionaire quest with very limited time). Now if you say there are sub stories tied to it I'll see if I play it more. My intention was to only play it once more for the pleasure king billionaire and just that. We'll see.
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh I didn't know this was that kind of game... :P

No, seriously, I meant the right answers often drift behind the wrong ones for most of the time until time is almost up and the right stick control is not very well implemented for my taste, plus aiming so, speaking usability, it's a bit poor I think. I've only really played it two times total (once it was on a billionaire quest with very limited time). Now if you say there are sub stories tied to it I'll see if I play it more. My intention was to only play it once more for the pleasure king billionaire and just that. We'll see.

Yeah, there are a load of side stories all tied to it. You have to meet (not meat ;) ) at least 6 different girls that all count toward your total side story total. They are super short side stories, but getting them to unlock does take quite a while especially if you end up meeting the same girl twice...
 

lucebuce

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Oct 25, 2017
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The "pre-Black Friday" deals go live in a few hours for US PSN.

The ACTUAL Black Friday deals go live on the 21st for US PSN, so keep your credit cards ready. There might even be a "10% off your cart" code like last year.
 

Akabeko

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Oct 27, 2017
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Woohoo just beat Kiwami last night! Didn't like it quite as much as 0, but still had a good time. So now the great debate.. do I jump straight into 6 when it comes out? Or do I buy 6 (to support the devs) and then sit on it until Kiwami 2 comes out?

I know Son of Sparda says that the previously on Yakuza video doesn't spoil much but 5, but will the impact of 2's story be lessened at all by jumping ahead?
 

Opa-Pa

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Oct 25, 2017
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PS blog posted a small piece with Scott from the localization team talking about details on the localization process of Y6 https://blog.us.playstation.com/2017/11/16/the-secrets-to-localizing-yakuza-6-the-song-of-life/

Woohoo just beat Kiwami last night! Didn't like it quite as much as 0, but still had a good time. So now the great debate.. do I jump straight into 6 when it comes out? Or do I buy 6 (to support the devs) and then sit on it until Kiwami 2 comes out?

I know Son of Sparda says that the previously on Yakuza video doesn't spoil much but 5, but will the impact of 2's story be lessened at all by jumping ahead?
Not really, Y2 is arguably the most "standalone" story in the series. Kiwami 2 will probably change that but that's coming out later anyway.
 
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shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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2's impact is due to its badass villain. So unless you fully watch a "lets play" of the game you shouldn't really be spoiled by it.

As for sales, I noticed that one of my preferred shopping sites - 365games.co.uk have both Yakuza 0 and Kiwami on sale at the moment for around £20 each. So that's a steal for 0, anyone that hasn't picked it up already should jump on that :)
 

Akabeko

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Oct 27, 2017
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Ok great! So it looks like I have plans in March then! I lived in Tokyo from 2000-2001, so the Kiwami Japan felt pretty familiar to me. I haven't been back since though so it'll be interesting to see how much has changed since then.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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So I just beat Yakuza 0. (my first Yakuza game)

Overall, I thought it was pretty great. The characters and story really kept my going, plus oddly enough, the heat moves. Just loved the different ways you could beat the shit out of people.

I thought the combat overall felt kinda sloppy and it felt like a detriment to use some moves. Like Kiryus run and kick where he would end up on the floor. 99% of the time, some enemy would just kick you while you were down, or the guy you kicked would immediately get up and hit you. Or picking up weapons felt slow, and enemies would get free hits on you. Plus I HATE the stun lock that bosses would do on you. That shit sucked. Like if a boss hit you, you were stuck in his combo till he was done. Or in one part near the end, a ton of people have guns and are are 20 feet away from you. So they would always shoot you, you'd take massive damage, and fucking fall down. I took like 5 bullet shots before I even reached one of the enemies. The animation it puts you in is aggravating.

Also, story wise about the ending I didn't really like about Goro
Why did Goro change his personality 180 degrees? That was.....bizarre. He was the cool and collected character. Then all of a sudden he cuts his hair, and puts on a yellow jacket and calls Kiryu Kiryu-chan? Ok.......

Also, I mentioned this before, but yeah, really really REALLY cheap story tactic with the guns and getting shot.
 

stupei

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Oct 26, 2017
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So I just beat Yakuza 0. (my first Yakuza game)

Overall, I thought it was pretty great. The characters and story really kept my going, plus oddly enough, the heat moves. Just loved the different ways you could beat the shit out of people.

I thought the combat overall felt kinda sloppy and it felt like a detriment to use some moves. Like Kiryus run and kick where he would end up on the floor. 99% of the time, some enemy would just kick you while you were down, or the guy you kicked would immediately get up and hit you. Or picking up weapons felt slow, and enemies would get free hits on you. Plus I HATE the stun lock that bosses would do on you. That shit sucked. Like if a boss hit you, you were stuck in his combo till he was done. Or in one part near the end, a ton of people have guns and are are 20 feet away from you. So they would always shoot you, you'd take massive damage, and fucking fall down. I took like 5 bullet shots before I even reached one of the enemies. The animation it puts you in is aggravating.

Also, story wise about the ending I didn't really like about Goro
Why did Goro change his personality 180 degrees? That was.....bizarre. He was the cool and collected character. Then all of a sudden he cuts his hair, and puts on a yellow jacket and calls Kiryu Kiryu-chan? Ok.......

Also, I mentioned this before, but yeah, really really REALLY cheap story tactic with the guns and getting shot.

Your dodge has a ton of invincibility frames, so my strategy was always swerve past the other guys and dodge my way down the hallway to take out the gun guys first. Didn't get shot at all doing that.
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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Counter points to some of your combat complaints - stun lock is annoying, but you have upgrades that can allow you to reblock for that reason. Makes a world of difference. Always some of the first ones I unlock. And just as a general rule, I just never attack bosses from the front, or in mid combo. Years of experience, it just never works in the series. Dodge and get behind them as they finish their combo and you can destroy them with your own combo as you smash the back of their head, very few bosses outside of Amon really have a come back to that.
Picking up weapons - use beast mode. Beast mode makes picking up weapons in any other stance pointless since beast mode is quicker, has super armor in case your attacked and builds heat super fast. Makes early fights (like the second boss) a complete push over.
And regarding guns - Majima you use heat moves that you learn from Komeki (or whatever he calls himself in this game) for the rare occasion you meet enemies packing heat (final chapter only I believe) and for Kiryu just use Rush stance and dodge. They can't lay a hit on you while you can destroy them.
As for the drop kick thing. Don't have an answer for that one I'm afraid! I never had that issue myself, maybe because I always got lucky and knocked down whoever I was aiming at but I can very much see that being an issue. That's why I love the Dragon Stance and Yakuza 5 so much - they add a backflip onto the end of the move so on successfully landing a hit you end up back on your feet immediately. Really handy.

My issues with the combat as always stem from dagger and stun gun wielding enemies. They attack really fast and me being me will try and attack them as soon as I get up, only to have them attack first and end up back on the ground (repeat this until I see sense). Though in 0 and Kiwami at least you get a couple move that lets you destroy these guys in one hit. Only issue with that is that stun gun enemies attack faster and its often a very risky counter heat move to use, so rush dodging or beast + heavy weapon is the best way forward to deal with those jerks.
 

Akabeko

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Oct 27, 2017
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Did anyone else feel that Kiwami overused bosses that were super fast and dodged all the time? I found a lot of the fights more tedious than fun (especially if it was a boss + minions), and basically resorted to Tiger Drop spam or some other kind of cheese. I kinda liked the slower moving, health sponge type bosses from 0.
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not really. I enjoyed most of Kiwami's bosses, only ones that I had a few issues with were:

Shimano fight 1 - too boring. Its a straight forward fight that could have done with being half the length. His second boss battle highlights how damn fun it would be if you were powered up more. That fight is one of my favourites in the game.
Shindo - too many goons and too many swords. Its not a tough fight per se, but its definitely stacked against your favour - guess Nishiki really didn't want you getting out of there alive!
Jingu - I mean, he's just an asshole. Easily the black mark on an otherwise great game for me.

The brothers... not sure on my opinion on that one. One of the less inspired boss fights in the game since they are blatantly clones of Shakedown and Majima's dance teachers from 0 but I didn't have any real issues beating them.
Arase I actually really enjoy in an odd way. I love his character thanks to 3 and Dead Souls as well and his difficulty is over rated. Rush + Dragon = no problem to beat Arase! Especially as he's got some attacks that leave him laughably open for big counter attacks

The rest of the fights I loved. Nishiki, Shimano 2, Amon, Hayashi and of course Majima! One of my favourite casts of bosses in the series.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Your dodge has a ton of invincibility frames, so my strategy was always swerve past the other guys and dodge my way down the hallway to take out the gun guys first. Didn't get shot at all doing that.

Counter points to some of your combat complaints - stun lock is annoying, but you have upgrades that can allow you to reblock for that reason. Makes a world of difference. Always some of the first ones I unlock. And just as a general rule, I just never attack bosses from the front, or in mid combo. Years of experience, it just never works in the series. Dodge and get behind them as they finish their combo and you can destroy them with your own combo as you smash the back of their head, very few

Honestly, these were just minor stuff that popped into my head over the course of the game. I usually had like 10 medicines on me at all time, so I would just brute force my way through everything, lol. And Goro always had 4 cannons fully stocked which made groups of enemies trivial.

I put 45 hours in and really enjoyed it. A solid 8.5/10 for a game I thought I would drop after 5 or 6 hours. The characters/setting really kept me going, and will definitely continue on with the series because at this point, I'm invested in the characters. I will wait for every game to get a PS4 version though to be honest.

Anyways, now I'm kind of at a cross roads.

I beat the game, but I'M NOT EVEN CLOSE to finishing the real estate and sunshine club side quests. I legitimately thought these were necessary for the main quest, but I guess not.
So I'm really not sure what to do now.

There is clearly a ton of stuff left to do, but I don't really have any sort of drive to do it because what is the end goal? Goro has 4 billion yen (just beat Shakedown over and over lol). The game does surprise me with conversations and story, so I guess there is that. But man, I already clocked in 45 hours, and I have so many other games to get to...

Anyone have any advice?
 

raketenrolf

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Oct 28, 2017
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My story with Yakuza reaches back to the days of the PS2. I imported (NTSC US, I'm in EU) and played Yakuza 1 when the PS3 was already out. I remember being not really impressed by the tech because of the loading and the world that wasn't seamless like other Open World/Sandbox games even on the PS2. I still liked it because of the story and characters. Almost finished it but there was a section later in the game where I was so pissed at the enemies with guns and how they shot you down every time. I wasn't very good in those kind of games back then so I never played it again, sold it some time later.

Didn't play (but owned) Yakuza 2 but I bought and played Yakuza 3 on PS3. By the time I got to try it out it felt so outdated to me that I stuck with my other games on 360/PS3 and never got back to it. Played only a few hours. Bought Yakuza 4, kinda liked it but I just stopped playing after some time. Don't know why. Didn't grab me and I just played other games again. I thought I will never play a Yakuza game again. I always liked the setting, the stories, the characters, the style of the game but something about the gameplay (and tech in earlier games) just put me off.

When Ishin was confirmed to be on PS4, I was hoping for an english release but it never came to be. Some time later they announced Yakuza 0 for western markets. I never intended to play it because I never really got into the older games. But a lot of communities were really excited about it and it was sold out pretty quick (probably due to a small print), which lead me to ordering it.

So I started the game, full of enthusiasm and hope that this entry in the franchise will finally grab me. Played the first 2 chapters, a few hours. Combat didn't feel good at the beginning of the game. It was boring and felt like a chore to be honest. Everybody was amazed by the minigames and I tried them - only to be let down by most of them. Some things still felt outdated. It was just as ever. I loved the story, presentation, characters but didn't like the others things at all. While fun at the beginning, it became more and more boring and repetitive. I kept playing until the end of chapter 2 so that it will be easier when I come back to it again, I told myself. So I put it away. Played other things. Thought I would try it again after some time. But you know how it is with RPGs and long breaks. Before you start, you believe you may have forgotten all those complex systems and mechanics and may have to start again from the beginning or need a long time to get familiar with them again. So I didn't play the game for weeks, months even. Thought about selling it.

Then, one day I thought I will give it one more chance before I sell it. If it doesn't grab my attention this time, I will sell it and never look at this franchise again, I told myself. Started it and played for hours. Was suddenly amazed by it. Don't know why. It just 'clicked'. I absolutely adore this game. Sure, there are still things that are annoying but I don't mind anymore. I just sticked with the story for the most part for the next few chapters, slowly trying some side activities, understanding mechanics, systems, fell even more in love with the characters, the story and the atmosphere. It's just so charming and amazingly weird at times. I think my problem was that I started too slow when I began to play. I think I would have had a better time if I had mostly followed the story for the first 4 chapters or so. I took another break playing this game after around 30h because I did too much real estate and club side activities. This time though I knew I just needed a short break.

I am now sitting at the end (I think) of chapter 10 with around 40h of total playtime. Still doing real estate before I move to the next chapter. Buying Kiwami soon. Absolutely looking forward to 6 and 2. Also hope that 3-5 will get the same treatment. If they don't, I will just buy them again on PS3. One of the best, if not THE best franchise from SEGA.

Anyone have any advice?
The only general advise I can give is to play whatever you want if you have fun with it. Doesn't matter if you have 100 games on your "to do" list. We play because we want to have fun, not because we want to complete lists, right? You could play Y0 aditionally to another game as it probably won't have a high priority anymore due to the fact that you already completed it and already got most of it I guess. But if you feel like playing it sometimes - why not?
 
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The only general advise I can give is to play whatever you want if you have fun with it. Doesn't matter if you have 100 games on your "to do" list. We play because we want to have fun, not because we want to complete lists, right? You could play Y0 aditionally to another game as it probably won't have a high priority anymore due to the fact that you already completed it and already got most of it I guess. But if you feel like playing it sometimes - why not?

Let me ask you this.

Is there a grand payoff to completing the estate and club side quests?
 

lucebuce

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Let's just say that the three styles both characters have in Y0 and Y:Kiwami is VASTLY different from how they fight in the rest of the series.
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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Eh, Majima's secret style is all flash and no substance for me. The heat gear system makes it not so great to use in fights. All his good stuff (like his awesome counter) is locked away until you hit third heat gear and the secret style flat out sucks to build heat, and once you have heat you can only use that one counter once before losing all your heat. Only one heat move as well, and I wasn't a fan of his combo strings. Looks like they are at least fleshing it out more for Kiwami 2 at very least, should make it more useful in a fight. Honestly between slugger and dancer I just didn't find it all that useful. Kiryu's was way more useful thanks to the better set of counters and better moves list, made it my default go to stance when hitting up the arena and some optional/late game battles.
Then again I feel that was one issue that I always forget about 0's combat that always annoyed me - the heat system really prevents you from using some of the best moves since it costs heat to use stuff that was previously usable whether you had heat or not. Thankfully Kiwami greatly relaxed heat requirements for (heat) moves so it was far easier to use the moves you unlock.

Generally speaking on completion though - the styles - while fun are really not that great if you've already finished the main game. You won't have much to really use these styles on in terms of encounters, I personally made sure I unlocked them ready for the last few chapters just so I could get the most use out of them, but that's just me.
However both real estate and caberet are fantastic in terms of the stories you get - Majima's club stuff especially as it gives Yuki plenty of chances to shine, and real estate because some of the additional side stories you unlock (Tax Lady, interviews etc.) are genuinely hilarious. Plus for real estate especially you can make tons of money used to upgrade your styles.

But don't feel the need to 100% the game if your not interested. A couple of bits there are a legit grind, if you just want to see all the game has to offer just clear all the side stories, real estate and club stuff - that'll encompass all the best the game has to offer - and if you still want to do more after that then by all means go for it :)
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, I think I might stop.

I think I feel the burn out on the game. 45 hours is a lot for me. Loved it. I think if I start going the grinding route, then that will be the last memory I have of it, and I don't want that. I'm putting it away and maybe one day in a few years, I'll do a Yakuza playthrough and go through all the Yakuza games on PS4 again in a big run through.

I'm excited to start Kiwami, but I'm gonna give that one a few months. I think I'm all Yakuza'd out for a while. Plus I have some other games I've been itching to start.

But final thoughts. I am an official Yakuza fan!! I understand the admiration people have for the series and these are games I am not trading in. I am holding onto them. They deserve it.
 

Adryuu

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Oct 27, 2017
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Now you made me curious with that fourth style. I was pretty advanced in real estate anyway, but not in cabaret and I don't think I'll do it as I found it confusing and not fun and my main story is done.

Always up for some karaoke/outrun/whatever though!
 

eyeball_kid

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,249
Yeah, I think I might stop.

I think I feel the burn out on the game. 45 hours is a lot for me. Loved it. I think if I start going the grinding route, then that will be the last memory I have of it, and I don't want that. I'm putting it away and maybe one day in a few years, I'll do a Yakuza playthrough and go through all the Yakuza games on PS4 again in a big run through.

I'm excited to start Kiwami, but I'm gonna give that one a few months. I think I'm all Yakuza'd out for a while. Plus I have some other games I've been itching to start.

But final thoughts. I am an official Yakuza fan!! I understand the admiration people have for the series and these are games I am not trading in. I am holding onto them. They deserve it.

I didn't try to finish the club or real estate because I didn't want that narrative tension in the story to dissipate while I goofed around with side activities. So I have a bunch of stuff left to do in the NG+, and I don't really force myself to play it, I just come back to it once in a while and do a bit more. I enjoy Majima's club so it doesn't feel like a chore, but Kiryu's business I can only do a bit at a time because it's so grindy. So I just mix it up, do some style training, a couple side stories, play some mini-games, just walk around. It's sort of relaxing when you don't feel pressure to complete it right away.

Hiromi Tsuru a.k.a Reina passed away :(

R.I.P. :( I really liked her in Zero.
 

sibarraz

Prophet of Regret - One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
18,117
How can you put spoilers? I can't fin the option

Wanted to talked about yakuza 0 when nishikiyama takes kiryu to a car ride into the countryside.

Man, that scene was so powerful, must be my favorite scene in the Yakuza series, specially knowing how things will end for both of them