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Xavillin

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Oct 25, 2017
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Any advice for being less scared of approaching girls? I'm in a community orchestra and there's a cute violinist I want to talk to. I've noticed her looking at me a few times so maybe she's interested, but I feel physically incapable of just going up to her and saying hi.
Was in the same predicament a month ago. Then my teacher moved me to her group table. But the thing is, now I like the girl who who replaced me in my former group where I used to sit. Oh the dilemma!

Yup. It seemed pretty clear early on in the night I wasn't getting dumped, so I was just going to roll with it and see what happened, but she ended up bringing it up anyways and it led to a great talk. And then lots of great sex.

Hurray!
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Quantum Leap

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Oct 25, 2017
5,988
California
Also we saw Thor finally - we both thought it was great. Best Thor film yet. The only MCU film she hasn't seen now is Guardians vol 2 so we'll do that soon - she's excited for it.
I saw Thor with my lady friend as well but I was too distracted to pay attention :P
I give the whole trilogy an 8, I don't know why people hate the other two so much.
 

Beren

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Oct 25, 2017
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I saw Thor with my lady friend as well but I was too distracted to pay attention :P
I give the whole trilogy an 8, I don't know why people hate the other two so much.
Lol we were stoked to actually watch the film and had our intimate fun before and after. We glanced at each other for the hype stuff though and poked each other in the sides about stuff that we were excited for (spoilery stuff that appeared in the film).

We really like the first Thor a lot, but there's just little to like about that second one. She fell asleep during that, and I couldn't blame her at all. That film just lacks any kind of energy.

Dating thread is now Thor thread.

Please proceed.
 

vegohead

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Oct 27, 2017
175
Feels so good to have chemistry with someone on a date and not feel any rush to move it forward. Like if we coutinue to hang out, cool, but if not, that's okay too.

Had that happen tonight, grabbed bubble tea with a girl and then talked at a bar for a few hours. Feels nice not having tension when you connect with someone. I guess I'm feeling more secure about myself.
 

Alek

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Oct 28, 2017
8,472
get forearm tattoos. girls love them.

I don't know if this is serious advice, but it really depends what you're looking for. Don't get a tattoo if you're hoping it will attract a long term partner

"Women thought that the men looked healthier with a tattoo, which supports the biologists' theory. However, tattoos didn't make a man look more or less attractive. Women thought tattooed men would be worse partners and fathers than men without tattoos, perhaps because tattoos signal impulsiveness and a propensity for risk-taking — hardly the characteristics most women prioritize in a long-term partner. Both men and women agreed that a man with a tattoo looked more masculine, dominant, and aggressive."

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S019188691631087XQuote is from a Summary of the Article from Psychology Today.
 

Deleted member 2595

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Oct 25, 2017
5,475
So I need someone to tell me I'm an idiot right now.

It's been a while since I've posted - my girlfriend and I are still doing well, I think. I've been getting some weird vibes this past week, but I'm thinking they're just from my imagination, and hopefully you guys can confirm that for me. She's been super stressed out about her job and some medical issues that came up recently, but we've been getting through it well and I've been supporting her and just being there for her. Otherwise things have been the same, up until about a week ago. She started feeling a bit more distant, but it seemed to come and go. That was last Saturday. She slept over and Sunday it was all sunshine and roses again. We did different things that day and then Sunday night she says she doesn't want me to sleep over that night - she's just tired. That's the first time that's happened. Then Monday we hang out and it's good again and then she leaves a bit early, says she's tired. This was at 9:45 PM. I haven't seen her since then, and her texts have been a bit, I don't know, colder and sparser? I could totally be imagining that, but it just feels like a shift somehow. I couldn't hang out Tuesday, and she had plans with friends on Wednesday and Thursday. I said I'd be down to swing by if she liked and join in, but no big deal if it was a girls' night thing, and she said yeah, it was just girls' night (Wednesday). I didn't repeat the offer for Thursday. We might see each other today, Friday, but maybe not (this one's on me, my friend is having problems with his fiancee, so I told her I need to kind of be there for him tonight - after we're done I'll see if she wants to get together but I don't know when that will be and told her she should make plans and not wait for that). We're definitely hanging out Saturday - going for a hike and then Thor. But that's the longest we've been apart so far, and its kind of gnawing at me that her texts seem less "warm" I guess.

The kind of shift that happened might be all in my head, and anyways she really has some actual high-stress things happening in her life right now, so I'm probably reading waaaaaaaay too much into this. I'm just worried she's doing the slow disengage before breakup thing. I'm aware I'm probably just imagining it, and my roommate agrees. I just don't know why I'm feeling this way. I haven't behaved any differently, and there hasn't been anything bad that's happened, so hopefully when I see her on Saturday (or maybe Friday) this all just washes away.

I could use some people telling me to shut up and get a grip right now. Please tell me I'm just an idiot and this is all in my head!
I know I'm likely too late but this can just happen sometimes.

My partner and I have been together for about 4 years and we've had two or three wobbly periods where various things in life pulled us in different directions and messed with our whole vibe for maybe a few days or 1-2 weeks at most. If you're a good enough fit it'll ebb back and you'll be glad for it in a way (might lead to an honest/frank conversation, strengthen your relationship, etc). Shit just happens.

The only time to worry about it is if one of you has emotional problems (i.e. trust, commitment) which could take a normal, minor wobble like that and exacerbate it.

Hey everyone. I havent posted here before but was interested for a while.

My partner of 2.5years just broke up with me and said that she's grown and no longer feels romantic love for me. We were planning for me to go visit her for the past year and everything is pretty much paid and non-refundable. She insisted that I still go and visit her seeing as I already paid but I admited it sounds like a terrible idea since I'll most likely still have lingering feelings of romantic love for her.

She said that I should then just treat this as a break and that we can see where the relationship goes once I'm there. This relieved me somewhat but she immediately said that to her we were just friends.

The trip is a whole calendar month and as nice as New York might be it simply wasnt the reason why I wanted to go.

Should I go and see what happens? Try to talk to her again beforehand to get a clearer idea? Or write the money off?

The fact that she said she feels zero romantic love for me bothers me deeply.

Thanks

Edit: The plan was and still is to have me stay at her place during my visit.
Addie's advice was excellent. Go, but in your head treat the trip as a holiday for you. I don't mean neglect her or be mean to her, but before you go, treat the trip as if she doesn't exist. Plan stuff for you to do, events, sightseeing, etc.

2.5 years long distance and you've never met is bad. Living in a long distance relationship is bad. (They only work if there's a light at the end of the tunnel, and actual near-term finish date when you can be together.)

I'd say it's time to move on but enjoy your trip to NYC and see if she changes her mind about anything.

Take what she's said as gospel - she's over you. Play it like that's the case.
 
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Oct 27, 2017
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Thanksgiving vacation this week and traveling to my parents place. Going to try Tinder there to see if I can get a date for drinks. Feel like I need more practice.
 

gaiages

Member
Oct 25, 2017
488
Florida
I don't know if this is serious advice, but it really depends what you're looking for. Don't get a tattoo if you're hoping it will attract a long term partner

"Women thought that the men looked healthier with a tattoo, which supports the biologists' theory. However, tattoos didn't make a man look more or less attractive. Women thought tattooed men would be worse partners and fathers than men without tattoos, perhaps because tattoos signal impulsiveness and a propensity for risk-taking — hardly the characteristics most women prioritize in a long-term partner. Both men and women agreed that a man with a tattoo looked more masculine, dominant, and aggressive."

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S019188691631087XQuote is from a Summary of the Article from Psychology Today.

I can't read the article itself because they want me to pay, so no offense but I'm not going to take that at face value. Taking any study at face value is asking for a bad time.

That said, we all know certain areas of society still have stigmas involving tattoos, so anyone that gets them needs to be ready to have to cover them up at, say, an office job for example.
 

Alek

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Oct 28, 2017
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I can't read the article itself because they want me to pay, so no offense but I'm not going to take that at face value. Taking any study at face value is asking for a bad time.

That said, we all know certain areas of society still have stigmas involving tattoos, so anyone that gets them needs to be ready to have to cover them up at, say, an office job for example.

I get what you're saying. Particularly because all of those statistics don't mean much to any individual, but when you're talking about attraction you're talking about playing averages. Substantial bodies of empirical evidence usually hold more water than anecdotal advice from forum goers in terms of understanding those averages, and how they're influenced.

I wouldn't make a decision to get (or not to get) a tattoo based on that research, however, the point is that there isn't strong evidence to suggest that tattoos have any really meaningful benefit in attracting a long term mate, and dispensing that advice (almost as if it were a universal truth) seems a little silly to me.

And yes, if you want to read most current journal articles, you have to pay for access. Here's the summary that was on Psychology Today. Personally, I read journals through my sisters University access.
 

Alek

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Oct 28, 2017
8,472
Regarding my date with that girl on Sunday...

So I mentioned that date above, went well, seemed to get on, a quick meetup for coffee turned into 4 and a half ours, drinks and dinner. I liked her, and in general I got the impression she liked me.

Following the date, she sent me a text saying it was really nice to meet and that she'd like to hang out again sometime soon.

I sent a reply, saying I really enjoyed her company, and asking when she'd next be available.

She responded a few hours later, saying she's busy for the next couple of weeks, but she'll let me know when she's free sometime.

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Does that sound like it's going okay? Or is she kind of brushing me off? Saying she's busy for a couple of weeks doesn't really give me a huge indication that she's eager to see me. Especially because she doesn't have a full time job. I appreciate that she volunteers and has friends, etc to attend, it's hard to believe she wouldn't be able to free up some time.
 

Ernest

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,501
So.Cal.
Taking more than one week to see a person again after the first date is way too long and kills momentum. On the one hand, her complementing you on the date was a good sign, but not making herself free sooner than an ambiguous "couple of weeks" is a terrible sign. I err on the side of caution, saying she was being nice while actually brushing you off for someone else.
 

Alek

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Oct 28, 2017
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Taking more than one week to see a person again after the first date is way too long and kills momentum. On the one hand, her complementing you on the date was a good sign, but not making herself free sooner than an ambiguous "couple of weeks" is a terrible sign. I err on the side of caution, saying she was being nice while actually brushing you off for someone else.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking to be honest - and yeah it really does kill the momentum.

The only thing that gives me some hope is that by "I'm busy for the next couple of weeks, I'll let you know" she might mean that she's busy over the next couple of weeks but she'll let me know when she's free, within that time as opposed to I'm busy over the next couple of weeks I'll let you know after (but probably not at all).

Also, does it not seem weird that she would initiate a text after our date saying she'd like to see me again, if she actually didn't? Hard to understand why there would be an incentive to do that.

I'm probably going to go out with a couple more girls this week. One named Laura, another, Rhiannon, but neither of which seemed as interesting as Marnie (the girl above). It might sound odd, but I liked her neurological abnormalities. I liked the way she very twitched slightly when she demonstrated a more expansive vocabulary (she had a mild stroke when she was young, and experienced aphasia at the time). That kind of thing is difficult to find in a girl, but for me, them being different in some weird and unusual way is a pretty big deal breaker.
 

Ernest

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Oct 25, 2017
7,501
So.Cal.
You put the ball in her court, which all you can/should do at this point. You're free to move on, but if she lets you know if/when she's available, and you're still free, go for it!
 

Alek

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Oct 28, 2017
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Cheers for the advice Earnest :) You're right, I'll just play it cool, see what happens, and go out with one of the other girls in the week.
 

Jokab

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Oct 28, 2017
875
A bit over a month now since I broke up with my ex. Earlier this summer we talked about moving in together, and while I wasn't ready exactly then I really did feel like I wanted to at some point, so we bought a couch together since she needed one anyway, which now sits at her place. It was pretty expensive. So currently she owes me around $1000. The night we broke up we talked briefly about how to sort out our baggage so to speak, and I said "we don't need to talk about this right now I guess" and she agreed. Haven't spoken to her since. How do I bring up the fact that she owes me a lot of money when I kind of don't want to talk to her in the first place? We don't hate each other at all, but I just don't want to initiate contact really.
 

Gotdatmoney

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Oct 28, 2017
14,501
A bit over a month now since I broke up with my ex. Earlier this summer we talked about moving in together, and while I wasn't ready exactly then I really did feel like I wanted to at some point, so we bought a couch together since she needed one anyway, which now sits at her place. It was pretty expensive. So currently she owes me around $1000. The night we broke up we talked briefly about how to sort out our baggage so to speak, and I said "we don't need to talk about this right now I guess" and she agreed. Haven't spoken to her since. How do I bring up the fact that she owes me a lot of money when I kind of don't want to talk to her in the first place? We don't hate each other at all, but I just don't want to initiate contact really.

The longer you wait the less chance you're getting your money man. Better just do it quick and get to the point. After a certain point getting the money gonna be damn near impossible
 

CreepingFear

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Oct 27, 2017
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I will look to get back in to the dating game after December 15th. Good time, bad time? I always hear that after holidays is a good time. True?
 

Plidex

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Oct 30, 2017
1,153
Today it marks one month since we are officially BF&GF with a girl from Tinder I met almost four months ago.

Should I give her a gift? Or one month is not important enough? If I give her something it wouldn't be something expensive, but I have no idea what I could give her. I don't remember her saying anything that could give me an idea.

She has previously told me I'm stingy (I'm not) so if she buys me something and I don't give her anything it would be pretty bad.
 

Quantum Leap

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,988
California
Today it marks one month since we are officially BF&GF with a girl from Tinder I met almost four months ago.

Should I give her a gift? Or one month is not important enough? If I give her something it wouldn't be something expensive, but I have no idea what I could give her. I don't remember her saying anything that could give me an idea.

She has previously told me I'm stingy (I'm not) so if she buys me something and I don't give her anything it would be pretty bad.
Just give her something for Christmas.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,159
China
Today it marks one month since we are officially BF&GF with a girl from Tinder I met almost four months ago.

Should I give her a gift? Or one month is not important enough? If I give her something it wouldn't be something expensive, but I have no idea what I could give her. I don't remember her saying anything that could give me an idea.

She has previously told me I'm stingy (I'm not) so if she buys me something and I don't give her anything it would be pretty bad.
Take her out to dinner.
 

WaffleTaco

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Oct 25, 2017
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Today it marks one month since we are officially BF&GF with a girl from Tinder I met almost four months ago.

Should I give her a gift? Or one month is not important enough? If I give her something it wouldn't be something expensive, but I have no idea what I could give her. I don't remember her saying anything that could give me an idea.

She has previously told me I'm stingy (I'm not) so if she buys me something and I don't give her anything it would be pretty bad.
Just remember to tell her happy one-month, someone suggested dinner. That could be good, I would also suggest flowers. Although Christmas is around the corner, maybe you could get her a small gift.
 

Beren

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
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Today it marks one month since we are officially BF&GF with a girl from Tinder I met almost four months ago.

Should I give her a gift? Or one month is not important enough? If I give her something it wouldn't be something expensive, but I have no idea what I could give her. I don't remember her saying anything that could give me an idea.

She has previously told me I'm stingy (I'm not) so if she buys me something and I don't give her anything it would be pretty bad.
A rose wouldn't hurt.
 
Oct 27, 2017
10,201
PIT
Today it marks one month since we are officially BF&GF with a girl from Tinder I met almost four months ago.

Should I give her a gift? Or one month is not important enough? If I give her something it wouldn't be something expensive, but I have no idea what I could give her. I don't remember her saying anything that could give me an idea.

She has previously told me I'm stingy (I'm not) so if she buys me something and I don't give her anything it would be pretty bad.

First, congrats. Second, go somewhere nice for dinner.
 

Gotdatmoney

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Oct 28, 2017
14,501
Today it marks one month since we are officially BF&GF with a girl from Tinder I met almost four months ago.

Should I give her a gift? Or one month is not important enough? If I give her something it wouldn't be something expensive, but I have no idea what I could give her. I don't remember her saying anything that could give me an idea.

She has previously told me I'm stingy (I'm not) so if she buys me something and I don't give her anything it would be pretty bad.

Don't buy her anything. Just go to dinner and casually drop a happy 1 month comment in there. Dont make it a big thing
 

Mr.2D

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Oct 28, 2017
36
Coworker stuff here, yey! (also my first post here, hi!)

So I met this girl from work (it's a big research centre with around 300 people), and yada yada yada, we ended up going to see Blade Runner 2049 back when it came out. Nice evening, she's incredibly smart and funny so of course I ended up with a small crush on her. So after a few days I invited her for dinner at place we talked about. To which the answer was "Maybe, maybe, we'll see.", followed by radio silence and complete indifference at work for the next few days. I sent her another text, no answer. Ok, I get it.

Fast forward a few weeks and we crossed in one of the hallways at work I just say fuck it and ask if "that maybe turned into a yes already?". "Yes", she said to my quite confused face. One super nice dinner with a lot of talk and laughs later, we go our separate ways. I sent her a text the next day, no answer. Ok, "maybe she's just not that into you".

Until a few days days ago I got a (presumably drunk) text from her at 5.30am saying "Sorry I left in a rush the other day. Just wanted to say that." I answered saying she can always invite me herself for dinner to make up for it. No answer, I see a pattern.

So, is she afraid of dating a co-worker or just weird?

(For reference, my last gf was bipolar, and the one before had severe OCD and anxiety. I didn't know before I started dating them.)
 

Ray Wonder

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Oct 25, 2017
649
Coworker stuff here, yey! (also my first post here, hi!)

So I met this girl from work (it's a big research centre with around 300 people), and yada yada yada, we ended up going to see Blade Runner 2049 back when it came out. Nice evening, she's incredibly smart and funny so of course I ended up with a small crush on her. So after a few days I invited her for dinner at place we talked about. To which the answer was "Maybe, maybe, we'll see.", followed by radio silence and complete indifference at work for the next few days. I sent her another text, no answer. Ok, I get it.

Fast forward a few weeks and we crossed in one of the hallways at work I just say fuck it and ask if "that maybe turned into a yes already?". "Yes", she said to my quite confused face. One super nice dinner with a lot of talk and laughs later, we go our separate ways. I sent her a text the next day, no answer. Ok, "maybe she's just not that into you".

Until a few days days ago I got a (presumably drunk) text from her at 5.30am saying "Sorry I left in a rush the other day. Just wanted to say that." I answered saying she can always invite me herself for dinner to make up for it. No answer, I see a pattern.

So, is she afraid of dating a co-worker or just weird?

(For reference, my last gf was bipolar, and the one before had severe OCD and anxiety. I didn't know before I started dating them.)


What does she mean by "Sorry I left in a rush"?
Did she leave the date quickly?
 

Gotdatmoney

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Oct 28, 2017
14,501
Coworker stuff here, yey! (also my first post here, hi!)

So I met this girl from work (it's a big research centre with around 300 people), and yada yada yada, we ended up going to see Blade Runner 2049 back when it came out. Nice evening, she's incredibly smart and funny so of course I ended up with a small crush on her. So after a few days I invited her for dinner at place we talked about. To which the answer was "Maybe, maybe, we'll see.", followed by radio silence and complete indifference at work for the next few days. I sent her another text, no answer. Ok, I get it.

Fast forward a few weeks and we crossed in one of the hallways at work I just say fuck it and ask if "that maybe turned into a yes already?". "Yes", she said to my quite confused face. One super nice dinner with a lot of talk and laughs later, we go our separate ways. I sent her a text the next day, no answer. Ok, "maybe she's just not that into you".

Until a few days days ago I got a (presumably drunk) text from her at 5.30am saying "Sorry I left in a rush the other day. Just wanted to say that." I answered saying she can always invite me herself for dinner to make up for it. No answer, I see a pattern.

So, is she afraid of dating a co-worker or just weird?

(For reference, my last gf was bipolar, and the one before had severe OCD and anxiety. I didn't know before I started dating them.)

Afrer the second dinner and ghost you basically should just block her number and move on. It's not going anywhere. When you see in person be nice. Otherwise move on.
 

Mr.2D

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Oct 28, 2017
36
What does she mean by "Sorry I left in a rush"?
Did she leave the date quickly?

I walked her to her car and got a fast "See you around, bye!", that's probably what she meant.

After the second dinner and ghost you basically should just block her number and move on. It's not going anywhere. When you see in person be nice. Otherwise move on.

I'm always nice whenever I see her. Blocking is not an option but ignoring any further messages is probably not abad idea.
 

Gotdatmoney

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Oct 28, 2017
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I'm always nice whenever I see her. Blocking is not an option but ignoring any further messages is probably not abad idea.

Why is blocking not an option?

Reason I suggest it is because most people are too weak willed to actually ignore messages from people they like. She is just a work colleague that isnt interested in you, its not like if you block her number shit is going to go crazy.
 

Plidex

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Oct 30, 2017
1,153
Thanks everyone for the input!

I wanted to take her out for dinner but she told me she prefers if I go to her home. Her mom is on a trip but her brother is going to be there, so it seems she isn't making a big deal out of it.


Btw, I want to give some hope to the people (who sadly are more than one would think) that think they'll never meet someone who will appreciate them. I'm not saying I found "the one", but for moments I used to think that I would end up alone and I stopped trying. Now even if this relationship doesn't work, at least I have some hope that I can find someone that wants to be with me.
 

Shal

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Oct 27, 2017
296
What if the tattoo is of a sick water color snake?
In that case you should get it, no questions asked


Coworker stuff here, yey! (also my first post here, hi!)

So I met this girl from work (it's a big research centre with around 300 people), and yada yada yada, we ended up going to see Blade Runner 2049 back when it came out. Nice evening, she's incredibly smart and funny so of course I ended up with a small crush on her. So after a few days I invited her for dinner at place we talked about. To which the answer was "Maybe, maybe, we'll see.", followed by radio silence and complete indifference at work for the next few days. I sent her another text, no answer. Ok, I get it.

Fast forward a few weeks and we crossed in one of the hallways at work I just say fuck it and ask if "that maybe turned into a yes already?". "Yes", she said to my quite confused face. One super nice dinner with a lot of talk and laughs later, we go our separate ways. I sent her a text the next day, no answer. Ok, "maybe she's just not that into you".

Until a few days days ago I got a (presumably drunk) text from her at 5.30am saying "Sorry I left in a rush the other day. Just wanted to say that." I answered saying she can always invite me herself for dinner to make up for it. No answer, I see a pattern.

So, is she afraid of dating a co-worker or just weird?

(For reference, my last gf was bipolar, and the one before had severe OCD and anxiety. I didn't know before I started dating them.)

She doesnt seem interested, you should move on.
The drunk text at 5 am doesnt really say anything. I've regretted drunk chats I've started around those hours with girls I didnt really like but I was just horny, this could be similar so those text are not really telling.

What is telling though is her lack of response and interest, you should try somewhere else or you might lose your time and she might make you look like a creep to your coworkers (this sht spread fast), so watch out.
 
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Sygma

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Oct 25, 2017
954
"Hey it was really nice to meet you, I had a really good time. It would be cool to hang out again sometime :)"

How does that sound guys? I think it went pretty well.

Seems like you did all the right things dude ! now you just contact her maybe twice a week top, offer a date, and if she's not interested you let her contact you back. Then you offer a date and if she says yes, proceed.

Don't chase, don't be cutesy, don't text because thats a romantic attraction killing move (too much texting leads to too many potential conversation topics already done when not face to face, and that blows). Let her chase you back whenever she let you down, and always be reliable. don't cancel plans, ever. Don't talk about feelings or any of that shit with her, let her do exactly what she just did with the "would be cool to hang out again :)" , by letting her all the space to take it further if she feels like it

If you do everything right, she ll want to see you more. She'll want you to call or text more, and you ll always say no to that, but go on dates instead