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Ace Attorney Community |OT| A New Chapter of Trials!
- Thread starter GSR
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Dub is good.
The animation though... Oof... I think about watching the anime every now and then for completion's sake, but remember why I don't.
Finished AA: Spirits of Justice on iOS, and now playing the DLC case (Turnabout Time Traveler). And while I loved the main story line, this case doesn't really grab me. It feels like a slog. Maybe because the stakes are not so high?
It's commonly thought to be the weakest case in the game - people just didn't appreciate the slapdash attempt at trying to make a 'classic' style case with the old gang reunited. I enjoyed it for what it was - the time travel angle was interesting even if it was dropped immediately after the first trial. I loved the wedding zeppelin setting as well as Sorin and Ellen, who had some great (if a tad too drawn out) animations. The real weak point of the case is
the villain, who is obvious from get go and not at all that interesting. It's been said before, but the case really needed one or two more characters to flesh out the mystery and add to the suspect pool. I once saw a suggestion that Sorin's father could have been present which I quite liked the sound of - the Sprocket family politics could have made for some interesting dynamics, but it was only briefly mentioned in regards to the family not taking well to Sorin's choice of bride and then it was sweeped under the rug, along with the time travel business.
I don't know if I'd say "commonly". I'd say there's a fairly equal split between those who consider it among the strongest and those who consider it among the weakest, from my experience. There's a lot of people in this very thread who have ranked it near AA3.
Hey, SoJ is my favourite AA - I'm talking about the DLC case in regard to the other SoJ cases!
Ohhh the DLC case specifically! Sorry, I thought you were talking about the entire game. I read wrong. Monday morning zzzzzzzzzz.
Yeah, the DLC case wasn't my favourite. I may have actually preferred the DLC case in AA5.
Yeah, I'm a big fan of AA5's DLC case. It just seemed much more ambitious than AA6 - more characters, more depth to the mystery and one of the hardest to pinpoint culprits in the entire series. It was honestly a much better attempt at a 'nostalgia case' with Phoenix cross examining an animal like in AA1, Pearl getting a bunch of screentime and having a real emotional punch at the conclusion, something base AA5 really lacked/failed to pull off.
Still, I found Time Traveller decent at least, certainly not bottom of the barrel tier.
Time Traveller felt like I was playing the encapsulation of everything wrong with modern Ace Attorney in one case, AA6 was pretty solid otherwise but what a bum note to end on.
AA5's DLC case has one of the best villains in the series. The case itself is a little nonsensical and the resolution's too clean for my liking but it's still among AA5's best offerings imo. I'd only rank it below 5-4 and 5-5 (which are essentially just one long case, anyway).
Agreed!
The only thing I loved more about Time Traveller was obviously
the epic return of Larry Butz, and Phoenix working with Maya again
But otherwise, I really do vastly prefer AA5's DLC case. Much more interesting overall!
DLC case was definitely a wash for me, but otherwise I loved SoJ. My only complaint was that it needed more
Thalassa. I'm kind of irked that the relationship between her, Apollo, and Trucy is still left unresolved.
Oh we be pirates we love to sail the seven seassssss.....
There was already a million things going on. There just wasn't enough time to resolve that properly. At least that tease in the credits was there, so they're definitely planning on handling it soon.
As much as I want to see it all wrapped up, it deserves to be the focus of a story, not just crammed into another one.
I feel more like the majority of fans love SoJ, but there's a small but vocal minority that doesn't care for it.
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Yeah, that sounds about right. It does surprise me, though, how vocal that minority is about it. I guess different strokes for different folks.
My personal theory is the some people really disliked the direction AJ went in. Then DD came along and was a lot more similar to the original games. With Maya returning in SoJ and the Khura'in/Kurain stuff, I think they assumed that the series would continue to move closer to the original. Then SoJ was the most unique game in the series, and most of the connections to the trilogy were very slight.
Some people really hold up the trilogy in high regard and think all AA games should be as close to them as possible. I sort of understand that (even if I strongly disagree), but the series has changed so much since then. Even if the series was handled by other people, I don't think it'll ever be just like the originals. Some of the new characters are just as popular as the old ones. The series is very different than when it started, and I think that's perfectly fine.
I agree with you. I understand it to an extent, but I can't help but get a little bit frustrated with people who seem to hate the games past the trilogy just because they're not the original trilogy. I mean... How many games do you need that are exactly the same? I was eager to see something different, and I really, really enjoyed the final product.
It's often the same people who want to see all Phoenix all the time. It's not like he can really develop more than he already has. I get that he's the face of the franchise (particularly for the original trilogy), but why are people so closed-minded about change? Visual novels can get stale without change. That's just how they are, IMO.
I've started playing DS Apollo (darn, it's been so long since I owned the game, remember posting about it back in the previous forum) but I'll probably wait for the ERA thread to post my impressions.
Oh and AAI2 was amazing. Loved the new characters, twists and cameos. Needed more
tho.
Oh and AAI2 was amazing. Loved the new characters, twists and cameos. Needed more
Ema
It introduced Apollo and Trucy, so I will always appreciate it for that since they're probably my favorite characters, and it does have some really neat ideas. Unfortunately, those ideas aren't handled the best, which makes a lot of the game fall flat in my opinion. The number one example is Phoenix himself, who I think is an interesting character, but I never really bought that classic Phoenix and Hobo Phoenix were the same guy until DD combined both of his personalities into one character.
AJ feels like a game that suffered from multiple rewrites. There's a bunch of stuff that gets picked and dropped throughout the game, not to mention the plotholes. Both Klavier and Kristoph feel really underdeveloped as well. Missed opportunity are the words I'd use to describe the game.
Still, I like the game, and it's definitely not my least favorite AA game in the series. It's probably the weakest main game, but it still has that good old AA charm. Despite all my issues with it, the thing I want most from the series at this point is for that leftover plot point from the end of the game to finally be resolved.
I loved everything except the cases.
Probably my favorite first case, but also probably my second least favorite last case. I love Apollo, Trucy, Klavier, Ema, and jaded Phoenix, but the cases are just kind of meh.
Can't wait for Apollo Justice. Even though I love the original trilogy I never got around to playing any of the games past them. Now that Apollo Justice is coming out, I'll finally be able to experience the rest of the mainline series. Now I just hope the Investigations series gets eShop versions.
It's my least-favourite in the series personally, but even the least-good Ace Attorney game is still better than most.
Every single case has at least one huge thing that bugs the heck out of me (the first case bugs me the least since its plot holes are only introduced retroactively), and Turnabout Serenade is bar-none the worst case in the entire series in every conceivable way. I adore the characters it (re)introduced and the music is phenomenal, but yeah. Doesn't make up for the crappy writing imo.
AJ has some high highs, but also has the worst case in the series. I'd rank it next to AA2.
Flawed, but good. I wasn't too hot on it back when it released, but I respect it a whole lot more now for what it tried to do. The main problem of Apollo Justice is how it feels stuck between being a true reboot or a continuation of the series (the executive meddling didn't help things either).
I rank AA4 somewhere upper-middle for my list. Two biggest cons for me are Turnabout Serenade, and the fact that there's little to no focus on the new protagonist in the actual story. Apollo was essentially a pawn in his first game IMO :P. But his interactions with trucy are always gold <3
I always have a difficult time ranking games. AJ isn't my favourite, but it's also not my least favourite, so I guess it would fall somewhere near the middle. The individual cases also don't stand out in my memory very much, but the overall game is a nice cohesive whole with some great character interactions.
I know what you mean. It's fairly easy for me to pick my favourite and least favourite.. but it's not very easy for me to rank the rest of them!
The stand out case for me in AA4 was definitely the first case. For me, it was easily the best first case in the series (probably followed by AA3). The cases in the middle maybe don't stand out as much, but the interaction between Apollo and Trucy made the 2nd case super fun anyway. :).
I haven't seen one, but I haven't looked that carefully tbh
well i always knew polly was a bad investigator but this is ridiculous
What's with all the low blows lately? :( I don't shit on you for liking Phoenix/whoever else :P
It was a joke! I didn't think it was a low blow but that's my bad if you took it the wrong way. <3
Not my fault my taste in characters is flawless ;)
No worries! i'm just teasing too, boo <3
I fall into the camp who enjoys AJ forward Ema far more than her original appearance. While her role in RFTA was very good, her personality was far too similar to Maya's even with the science enthusiast twist. Changing her so drastically from cheery, optimistic Ema to jaded, cold Ema and then again to bright but mature SoJ Ema is the sort character growth the series usually shies away from with it's main cast, which is why I appreciate it all the more.
As a side note, where does that right most portrait of her come from? AJ remastered?
As a side note, where does that right most portrait of her come from? AJ remastered?
The one on the far right looks like her design from the Miles Edgeworth spinoff games, IMO..
Actually looking back on that right hand design, I think it's a redesign from her RFTA look. The red bow gives it away. In AAI she has a tie instead.