True story, the store where I picked up my TV today had the video playing on most of the screens, it looked amazing. I don't have an XBS or XB1X but I will certainly get one next year for sure.
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Television Displays and Technology Thread: The ERA of OLED is Now
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True story, the store where I picked up my TV today had the video playing on most of the screens, it looked amazing. I don't have an XBS or XB1X but I will certainly get one next year for sure.
So I've been thinking of getting a 4K HDR tv soon, and I frequent DisplayLag.com, but everytime I search for a model of TV (generally something on sale), it's never on there. Am I doing something wrong, or does Best Buy and other retailers use a different model number than the actual model of the TV?
Depends on your region. Exact model numbers within the US are different than those outside usually.
Regardless: https://displaylag.com/display-database/
If a show has Dolby Vision, you'll still get "HDR10" even if you don't have a TV capable of displaying DV. I'm not actually sure how it works with streaming, but I'm assuming it would be the same.
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Ok so I am buying the p607 or x900e today, but I'm still debating as I have been for the past several days. My main hang-up is Dolby vision. I'm worried about not having Dolby vision moving forward on the x900e. What's the situation right now with that, like are there any shows that only has dv and not HDR? Is stranger things season 2 only Dolby vision or does it have hdr 10 as well?
Looking for deals on a 4K tv I can buy online that's 120hz. Haven't seen an amazing deal yet.
Is there a thread like this for gaming monitors?
Is there a thread like this for gaming monitors?
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lmao, my dad usually ignores calls from random numbers and lets the answering machine take them. But this time, he picks up on a call (for whatever reason) from Crutchfield requesting authorization and hangs up on them cuz his English is bad. Thankfully, they emailed me so I called and got that done. Yeesh, didn't wanna end up with a delayed shipping for my TV because of that.
Well... the sony is obviously better, but it's almost double the cost.
Oh didn't see the size you posted. Does the extra 10 diagonal inches matter to you more than better picture quality?
Well, the size is a big benefit for me personally (got the 65inch). As far as picture goes, it seems brighter, has more options. Tough to explain, but a 4k movie just looked better last night.
Can someone explain what I should set the auto local dimming and x-dynamic setting to? Not sure what the X-dynamic thing is.
I still think the QC has dropped this year. They are producing panels for Sony, Panasonic et al now, and they seem to be producing more duffers, or their standards aren't as high. My B6 is immaculate, but I've seen some horrors in the 2017 range.
The local dimming should be set to Medium for all content.
X-tended Dynamic Range should be set to Off with SDR content and High with HDR content.
Why medium for all content instead of high?
What is X-tended Dynamic Range doing? It'll be a paint to adjust that constantly :/
None for me so far, and my son plays a lot of Madden on it with the static scoreboard all the time. He also watches NFL Redzone on Sunday's and it has a constant redzone ticker bar at the bottom, and it has not caused any IR yet.
Nope. None on my end, I have the Sony A1E and have had it since pretty close to launch. I use it pretty much exclusively with a PS4 Pro.
ResetERA I need your help please.
How good is this TV in comparison to the Sony 65XE900? https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-an...mart-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-led-tv-10160544-pdt.html
I also would basically get a free soundbar with it, which is something I wanted with a new TV to replace my current setup: a 32inches Samsung 1080p and 5.1 Logitech surround sound system.
How good is this TV in comparison to the Sony 65XE900? https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-an...mart-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-led-tv-10160544-pdt.html
I also would basically get a free soundbar with it, which is something I wanted with a new TV to replace my current setup: a 32inches Samsung 1080p and 5.1 Logitech surround sound system.
Ordered the LG 55 c7. Hopefully I've made the right decision. Got it for €1650. Pretty much half price. Couldn't skip it.
I can't really find the Sony recommended here.
Amazon.de has a Samsung MU6199 58" for 646€ though and my brother owns an earlier entry level 4k Samsung LED tv and is happy. I tried gaming on it and the low input lag was really noticeable compared to my ten years old Sharp.
The IQ seems good enough for me (and this'll be a stop gap tv of sorts until I finally get a surgeons salary...don't tell my GF) the only thing I'm not sure about is the 50 Hz native panel the cheaper sets like this have. Is that a problem for gaming? No idea what tech they use to get to the higher refresh rates listed.
Amazon.de has a Samsung MU6199 58" for 646€ though and my brother owns an earlier entry level 4k Samsung LED tv and is happy. I tried gaming on it and the low input lag was really noticeable compared to my ten years old Sharp.
The IQ seems good enough for me (and this'll be a stop gap tv of sorts until I finally get a surgeons salary...don't tell my GF) the only thing I'm not sure about is the 50 Hz native panel the cheaper sets like this have. Is that a problem for gaming? No idea what tech they use to get to the higher refresh rates listed.
Question on the B7 vs the C7 real quick. I'm sure it's been answered an innumerable amount of times before, but they have the same picture quality right? Or am I mistaken? If I could get a quick breakdown of the differences that would be great.
I haven't paid much attention since I picked up my Sony, but my friend might be ready to pull the trigger on an LG today.
Thanks!
I haven't paid much attention since I picked up my Sony, but my friend might be ready to pull the trigger on an LG today.
Thanks!
They have identical picture quality save for any panel differences due to manufacturing. The differences are the C7 has a black bezel, silver stand, and can decide Dolby Atmos for its own internal speakers.
The B7 has a silver-trimmed bezel, a slightly less wide, "floating" black stand, no Dolby Atmos deciding for its own speakers, which aren't as good as the C7's.
It dims the same amount of zones, but preserves more brightness than if set on High. Recommended by reviewers and calibrators as well.
The X-tended Dynamic Range setting will be saved for SDR and HDR seperately, so no need to change :)
I probably asked this somewhere, sometime at one point (probably in the other forum) but does it look significantly better than those youtube 4k HDR videos from places like the HDR channel? Those videos still look jaw dropping to me and I wonder if it's because of the mix of 4k, HDR and 60fps.
I've always read that 4k streams are about similar in quality to blurays. So I would imagine that 4k Blu-ray is beyond that if you can even imagine lol
is the LG 43UJ620V any good? there' s a local store selling it for 300 euro...i can' find much info.online..n
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there are two versions of the B7, one with Atmos (B7P) and one without (B7A). Besides that, they should be the same outside of the trim and stand, so if you are using a external speakers (you should be) then the decision is based on aesthetics. I went with the B7P because I liked the stand better and was fine with the silver trim as it blends into the wall behind is more or less.
What the consensus on OLED light levels for SDR content?
Should we trust rtings and their 18 recommendation?
At first I was missing the "in the face" of the picture, but now that my eyes are accustomed to it, I think that I get more details at this level.
Should we have very bright display for SDR content? Maybe It must be set à little higher on game mode in order to have more "pop" (MK8D looks amazing)
I know that light in the room is a factor, I'm talking about optimum condition so dark room mandatory if I want to watch a movie or play an immersive game.
I also read that OLED light at high level age the pixels faster and could cause burn in. Keeping it at 18 is a win win situation.
When I read various comments on forums, I find that a lot of users mistake bright display for image quality.
With these modern set, am I also correct to try to adapt the settings with the content I put on display? Should a setting be perect for all contents, or sometimes you'll have to fiddle with gamma or oled light levels.
Should we trust rtings and their 18 recommendation?
At first I was missing the "in the face" of the picture, but now that my eyes are accustomed to it, I think that I get more details at this level.
Should we have very bright display for SDR content? Maybe It must be set à little higher on game mode in order to have more "pop" (MK8D looks amazing)
I know that light in the room is a factor, I'm talking about optimum condition so dark room mandatory if I want to watch a movie or play an immersive game.
I also read that OLED light at high level age the pixels faster and could cause burn in. Keeping it at 18 is a win win situation.
When I read various comments on forums, I find that a lot of users mistake bright display for image quality.
With these modern set, am I also correct to try to adapt the settings with the content I put on display? Should a setting be perect for all contents, or sometimes you'll have to fiddle with gamma or oled light levels.
I haven't seen how much brighter that 2017 LGs are (if they even are in SDR), but as I previously said, ~20 seems awfully dim, and this is coming from someone who used to watch everything in THX mode in the dark on a plasma, which was comparatively dim to the overall luminance on other people's TVs. In a completely dark room, I have my OLED light at 40 in conjunction to using ISF Dark. That's low enough so that my eyes don't get fatigued, and the picture is "bright" enough so that details aren't lost. I've tried as low as 35, and it just ruins the picture overall. Again, no idea how different the TVs are from last year until now, but I imagine it's not that drastic. Just adjust it to what's comfortable for you. I personally used brightness, contrast and gamma slides for mine though for TV adjustments and then adjusted the OLED after.
For HDR video, the OLED should be left on the default 100, and for Dolby Vision, the default 50. For gaming, just keep it as high as you can without it causing eye fatigue after a few hours.
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I picked it up today, the TV is a beast (also is heavy like 50lbs)...now I know what people have been talking about in regards to HDR...holy shit man...I can't go back. Image clarity is clear and vivid, colors really pop and the blacks are deep (not OLED deep but deep, HDR is bright and really shines, game mode is good. If you can afford it over the Sammy I'd say go for it, however you can get an OLED for that price as well fyi.
Umm, looks like it's all of these 05.30.01, 05.30.02 or 05.30.10.
I got that from the forbes articles that reported the dim game mode with LG response.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnar...n-and-you-probably-wont-like-it/#2c162dfa1e23
Hope that helps.
It's kind of a mess; there are actually three different models of the B7: the B7A, B7V, and B7P. The B7A is North America's B7, the B7V is Europe's B7, and the B7P is a warehouse-exclusive model. As far as differences, the B7P is essentially a C7 in the body of a B7A. The B7A and B7V are identical in features, but have very different designs, with the B7A featuring the same style of stand as the B7P, whereas the B7V features a metal crescent stand. And finally, the B7P does feature Dolby Atmos decoding for its internal speakers, but all models of B7 are able to decode Dolby Atmos for external speakers.
B7 isn't a 2016 model. The last update for the 2017 (US) model was 4.70.30. Regardless, if you want the Technicolor and increased shadow detail update, you're also going to have to swallow the dimmer HDR Game mode (which some say either looks better, or is mitigated by setting Dynamic Contrast to medium or high).
edit: Do the 2017 models even have this problem? I'm reading conflicting reports that it's only the B6 with the issue.
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Anything rated for Dolby Vision will be rated for HDR10. I think for now not having DV is okay because unless you have an OLED, most sets do not have the sustained nits brightness to take advantage of DV. Even sets like the Z9D or X930E still are waiting on a potential firmware update to allow DV. Going forward having DV will make you future proof, but I don't know, the TCL has between 300-600 nits of sustained brightness. That does not even meet HDR10 specifications let alone Dolby Vision. It's different for OLED's which have Infinite blacks and upto 700 nits brightness.
As for how the Sony is better, build quality and slightly better color accuracy. The biggest notice would be in the nite brightness as the Sony can hit 800 nits of brightness which is what is always needed for HDR. Whether these differences translate for the cost discrepancy is upto you though.
I noticed a change in brightness with game mode vs standard mode on the B7, but i couldn't find any info about the B7 firmware and if the newer firmware makes things worse.
40 is brilliant for me. It takes a while to become accustomed to it, but then it really is a sweet spot for my surroundings. Bright enough during the day, and no eye-strain during light-controlled night-time viewing.
I got my 900E a few days ago. I've still been considering upgrading it to the B7. Went in and talked to another guy in Magnolia today. He said definitely don't get the B7 for gaming because of image retention issues.
I keep hearing the same things from different employees that approach me. A couple workers have said that they don't care for the motion blur on the B7 as well and that they'd only consider getting a higher-end LG.
I keep hearing the same things from different employees that approach me. A couple workers have said that they don't care for the motion blur on the B7 as well and that they'd only consider getting a higher-end LG.
can someone make a list of the most expensive televisions at retail?
Sounds about right, especially when all 2017 models have the same panel and same SoC.
What does a "higher end" LG mean for picture quality? All the 2017 LG TVs have the same panel. Employees making stuff up to try and up sell you.
I game all the time on my 2017 OLED C7, don't have any major issues. Smokey bought a 2016 B6 and it's going well for him. Two examples of people using the sets for gaming and there are plenty more. I'm guessing nearly everyone posting here with a LG OLED is gaming on it.
As far as I know there is a HDR10 version of Stranger Things 2, so I'm 99 percent positive but perhaps someone else can check on that for you.
Dolby Vision is basically an extra layer on top of base HDR10. So typically if there is a Dolby Vision version there should be a HDR10 version. The only site which had Dolby Vision and no HDR10 was Vudu, but I think they updated all their HDR movies to support HDR10 now alongside Dolby Vision.
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