Sega Saturn |OT| Appreciation and Emulation Thread

Decarbia · Nov 23, 2017

It's analog noise. Without seeing your whole setup I couldn't really see what the cause is. Could be ambient rf interference, could be fluctuations in power, there are innumerable possible causes.

Anyways, I picked up Duke Nukem for Saturn this week. Haven't got a chance to sit down with it just yet.

Deleted member 1162 · Nov 23, 2017

IrishNinja said:
yeah, it's a crazy chapter. i'm loving this again.

see, part 1 (US) took me ages to find < $100, but the JP ones weren't too pircey, so i also bought those 3 and then burned the most recent versions of shining force central's fan translation effort, which is absolutely excellent & the only way you're gonna experience the whole trilogy.

what blows my mind is, i went out of my way to save/spare certain characters in scenario 1 that i'm told will affect things in 3...and each scenario seems to show the war from a different perspective.
this was like '97 i wanna say, how cool is that?

hey, Laevateinn i was looking into the fan translations,

what do i need to play them on a PVM?

do i need to buy the US versions or can i get the JYP versions. how do i patch and play them? what do i need to get/buy?

Decarbia · Nov 23, 2017

The easiest way to do it is to flash pskai onto an action replay and burn them to cdr.

Deleted member 1162 · Nov 23, 2017

Holly said:
The easiest way to do it is to flash pskai onto an action replay and burn them to cdr.

Thanks! i have a action replay for a JYP saturn to play US games. so that's perfect =)

Laevateinn · Nov 23, 2017

davidwhangchoi said:
hey, Laevateinn i was looking into the fan translations,

what do i need to play them on a PVM?

do i need to buy the US versions or can i get the JYP versions. how do i patch and play them? what do i need to get/buy?

You will need to be able to play burnt games or cd images to play the translations. I use a Rhea. I'm not sure if anyone still sells mods but Professor Abrasive is working on an alternative that hopefully will be released at some point in the near future. Otherwise if you're willing to live dangerously, you could always go old school and do a disc swap.

Assuming you have a way around the system's copy protection, the process is pretty simple. First thing you need to do is put your copy of the game in your computer, download the patch, run the provided executable and it will create an ISO for you. If you're using a Rhea or Phoebe, you'll need to convert it to CDI format. In terms of what version you need, you will need the US or European version of scenario one to play in English. The patch only works with these versions. Of course, the scenario one patch is only necessary if you want a slightly better translation and the real ending instead of the stupid one Sega of America made to cover up their lack of resources.

Which model of Saturn do you have?

Edit: I forgot you can play burnt games using an Action Replay

Deleted member 1162 · Nov 23, 2017

i have a jyp saturn model 1 and an action replay.

ok, i'm confused, what do i need again, do i still need rhea if i have action replay?

so i can't buy the japanese game to patch in english, ok thanks

Laevateinn · Nov 23, 2017

davidwhangchoi said:
i have a jyp saturn model 1 and an action replay.

ok, i'm confused, what do i need again, do i still need rhea if i have action replay?

so i can't buy the japanese game to patch in english, ok thanks

You can use Pseudo Saturn to play burnt games with an Action Replay. I have no experience with this but it seems like a lot of people do this. I'm sure someone else here can help you accomplish this. If you go this route, you won't need a Rhea. With how hard it is to get a Rhea, you might want to look into how to set up Psuedo Saturn and see if it's right for you.

Unfortunately, the scenario one English patch is only designed to work with an English copy of the game because it's only changing a small portion of the game. Scenarios 2 and 3 were only released in Japanese so that's your only choice but for Scenario 1 you will need a western copy.

Decarbia · Nov 23, 2017

Rhea is only if you want to permanently mod the system and use SD card instead of CDs.

If you just want to play a burned cdr, then you need pseudo Saturn or ps Kai. I prefer Kai. But that is just me.

For those you will need to swap once to boot into the installer for your action replay. But once you have the AR flashed you can play all the burned games you want.

Deleted member 1162 · Nov 23, 2017

thanks for clearing things up and the info.

Happy Thanksgiving you the both of you =)

Shadow Hog · Nov 24, 2017

There's also the Gamer's Cartridge, which is basically Pseudo Saturn Kai, but also allows direct save to cart, which is pretty important to me IMO. Also you can export your saves with an SD card, so that's also nice!

Deleted member 1162 · Nov 24, 2017

^thanks, i'll look into Gamer's Cartridge as well

i just picked up some Saturn games on Black friday. everything was 33% off. so there was some insane deals. elevator action was the lowest i've seen so i picked it up. if i change my mind, i can return it to the store.

I finally got a piece of the shining series. finally! yay it was 67 bucks after the blk friday deal!

Piggychan · Nov 24, 2017

woah nice haul ! :P

Deleted member 1162 · Nov 24, 2017

Piggychan said:
woah nice haul ! :P

thanks!

IrishNinja · Nov 24, 2017

yeah that's a helluva holiday haul!
and Ark's plot directly ties into III so doing that one first is best, plus it's one of the best dungeon crawlers I've played

Laevateinn · Nov 24, 2017

Guys, stop buying Elevator Action Returns.

davidwhangchoi said:
^thanks, i'll look into Gamer's Cartridge as well

i just picked up some Saturn games on Black friday. everything was 33% off. so there was some insane deals. elevator action was the lowest i've seen so i picked it up. if i change my mind, i can return it to the store.

I finally got a piece of the shining series. finally! yay it was 67 bucks after the blk friday deal!

Wow, amazing get.

I can't believe they sold you that Nights. It's like they can't even read or something.

Hope you enjoy Shining the Holy Ark. It's a great adventure. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

Decarbia · Nov 24, 2017

It's the season for some Christmas Nights too :D

Deleted member 1162 · Nov 24, 2017

IrishNinja said:
yeah that's a helluva holiday haul!
and Ark's plot directly ties into III so doing that one first is best, plus it's one of the best dungeon crawlers I've played

ok i'm going to figure out to play the rest of the shining series with the Saturn solutions mentioned above.

Laevateinn said:
Guys, stop buying Elevator Action Returns.

Wow, amazing get.

I can't believe they sold you that Nights. It's like they can't even read or something.

Hope you enjoy Shining the Holy Ark. It's a great adventure. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

i will! i'm pretty excited.
not sure what i'm going to keep. i just grabbed everything since it's only a once a year, one day sale. i can always go back and return things. i just didn't want others to grab it and i decide later i want it.

i also grabbed 2 US CIB legit neogeo AES games for 54 and 66 bucks each but don't even have an AES yet.

there's some turbo games so i might go back later tonight.

Holly said:
It's the season for some Christmas Nights too :D

i hope it's worth 27 bucks =P

IrishNinja · Nov 24, 2017

Leava - reached chapter 5 of SF III: part 2 last night

man it's cool seeing the war through from the empire's side but when Julian left on some "FUCK THIS LOL IMA GO KILL A VANDAL, WHO'S WITH ME" I was like memememe...can't wait for scenario 3 now

Decarbia · Nov 24, 2017

It's totally worth $27 just to see Sonic in Nights.

That's a good price too. I paid $60 for it sealed in an issue of Next Gen magazine

Laevateinn · Nov 24, 2017

IrishNinja said:
Leava - reached chapter 5 of SF III: part 2 last night

man it's cool seeing the war through from the empire's side but when Julian left on some "FUCK THIS LOL IMA GO KILL A VANDAL, WHO'S WITH ME" I was like memememe...can't wait for scenario 3 now

The first part of this chapter is so good. I hope you're ready for some daddy issues though. :)

Deleted member 1162 · Nov 24, 2017

Holly said:
It's totally worth $27 just to see Sonic in Nights.

That's a good price too. I paid $60 for it sealed in an issue of Next Gen magazine

i'm shopping around now for the 3d controller =)

MikeMyers · Nov 24, 2017

The Sega Saturn turned 23 two days ago. Same age as me!

Deleted member 1162 · Nov 24, 2017

MikeMyers said:
The Sega Saturn turned 23 two days ago. Same age as me!

happy birthday! you were meant for the Saturn =)

i just got in from going back to the retro store;
i got a 3d controller for 13 bucks!! i can't believe it was so low, i was about to buy one off ebay for 35.

and i picked up a few more items =)

Decarbia · Nov 24, 2017

Princess Crown is one of my all time faves. Before I learned Japanese I played through with a printed out translation, then replayed the PSP remake while I was living in japan. It's so good.

Deleted member 1162 · Nov 24, 2017

Holly said:
Princess Crown is one of my all time faves. Before I learned Japanese I played through with a printed out translation, then replayed the PSP remake while I was living in japan. It's so good.

i actually just found out about the translation this afternoon and then went back and picked it up =) pretty excited to give it a go

MikeMyers · Nov 24, 2017

Always wanted to play Princess Crown but it doesn't look import friendly.

Christmas Nights always get a play on 12/25.

Laevateinn · Nov 24, 2017

I'm not a huge fan of Princess Crown's battle system. The game is beautiful and has a lot of potential but I just couldn't stand fighting anyone. If they made that game as a more traditional action title instead of pseudo-RPG it would have been perfect.

Encephalon · Nov 25, 2017

Princess Crown is a fun game, but the music is a real disappointment.

Holly said:
It's analog noise. Without seeing your whole setup I couldn't really see what the cause is. Could be ambient rf interference, could be fluctuations in power, there are innumerable possible causes.

Anyways, I picked up Duke Nukem for Saturn this week. Haven't got a chance to sit down with it just yet.

It freaked me out recently when turning off the light in the next room caused the picture/sound from the game to temporarily disappear. Unplugging the video cable and plugging it back in again seems to work sometimes. Another replugging in the power cord worked. It's bizarre.

RedHoodedOwl · Nov 25, 2017

davidwhangchoi said:
happy birthday! you were meant for the Saturn =)

i just got in from going back to the retro store;
i got a 3d controller for 13 bucks!! i can't believe it was so low, i was about to buy one off ebay for 35.

and i picked up a few more items =)

Bonk's Adventure was available on the Sega Saturn?

Encephalon · Nov 25, 2017

Shining Force III Ep. II エルベゼム神殿前 Before Elbezem Temple is complete bullshit. I'm having a terrible time figuring out where the lightning actually strikes.

Laevateinn · Nov 25, 2017

There's only a few places the lightning will strike. Even though it's mostly random where danger will be, you should be fine if you rush to safe areas. This makes the confrontation with the enemy force pretty tense because you need to fight while avoiding the lightning.

It's also a great place to level your healers if you feel like they've fallen behind a bit.

The only issue is Donhort who, unfortunately, is mostly useless as a main knight.

Decarbia · Nov 25, 2017

RedHoodedOwl said:
Bonk's Adventure was available on the Sega Saturn?

That's the US TG16 version. Hucards came in jewel cases.

Force_XXI · Nov 25, 2017

The only game I own so far is Saturn Bomberman. I need some shooters, I know.

Some manual pics.

Piggychan · Nov 25, 2017

looks a lot nicer than the EU/UK manual for sure

Saoshyant · Nov 25, 2017

Those pics aren't loading for me, wasn't abload the one that didn't give our forum problems?

Deleted member 1162 · Nov 26, 2017

RedHoodedOwl said:
Bonk's Adventure was available on the Sega Saturn?

yeah like holly said, Tg16 that was part of my haul blk friday,

IrishNinja · Nov 26, 2017

Force_XXI said:
The only game I own so far is Saturn Bomberman. I need some shooters, I know.

Some manual pics.

Piggychan said:
looks a lot nicer than the EU/UK manual for sure

indeed - and far cheaper than the US one as well! you trade a few levels the former brings, but i think it's worth it

Force_XXI · Nov 26, 2017

I payed about a $100 shipped(US seller) for a JP Model 1 bundled with Bomberman, then looked at some prices of the games I want on Ebay. It's only gonna get more expensive from here on out -__-
I should have started collecting ten years ago but I was young and dumb :)

Decarbia · Nov 26, 2017

Yeah, Saturn collecting is not cheap unless you want a bunch of copies of Soviet Strike and Daytona.

Arulan · Nov 28, 2017

I've recently decided to delve into original hardware for a few older consoles, and that includes the Sega Saturn. It's already been quite expensive... I'm currently waiting for the PACKAPUNCH cables to get back in stock too.

So far I've picked up Layer Section, Street Fighter Zero II, and Virtual On. A lot of the other shmups I'm looking for are quite expensive unfortunately. I'd like to pick up Vampire Savior and Bomberman sometime soon too.

Decarbia · Nov 29, 2017

Uh, if cost is a concern this is not the system to collect for. It's not as bad as Neo Geo or PC Engine but it is pricey

Arulan · Nov 29, 2017

One game at a time.

Is it worth opting for the US versions of the first two Panzer Dragoon games for the story, or is there not much of it?

Saoshyant · Nov 30, 2017

Arulan said:
Is it worth opting for the US versions of the first two Panzer Dragoon games for the story, or is there not much of it?

Story is minor FMV cutscenes that you can watch online if you'd prefer not to spend more for the western versions.

Piggychan · Nov 30, 2017

Just in the post

XrossExam · Nov 30, 2017

Laevateinn said:
I'm not a huge fan of Princess Crown's battle system. The game is beautiful and has a lot of potential but I just couldn't stand fighting anyone. If they made that game as a more traditional action title instead of pseudo-RPG it would have been perfect.

That's funny because the fighting game styled battle system makes this game much more interesting to me.

Laevateinn · Nov 30, 2017

Onimatiq said:
That's funny because the fighting game styled battle system makes this game much more interesting to me.

It has potential but I hate the meter that comes with it. If it was more like a fighting game or more like an rpg it would be perfect. It being halfway between each kills it for me.

XrossExam · Nov 30, 2017

Laevateinn said:
It has potential but I hate the meter that comes with it. If it was more like a fighting game or more like an rpg it would be perfect. It being halfway between each kills it for me.

I can feels that, it's a little unrealized but I still thought it was cool for the time.

Laevateinn · Nov 30, 2017

Onimatiq said:
I can feels that, it's a little unrealized but I still thought it was cool for the time.

I only played it for the first time last year :)

XrossExam · Nov 30, 2017

Laevateinn said:
I only played it for the first time last year :)

I had only played it first a couple years ago. I just mean that a lot of games from that generation show it's age these days so Princess Crown still looks gorgeous for a 2D game and has engaging gameplay that holds up.

Piggychan · Dec 1, 2017

Time for that Christmas cheer folks!

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