Cuphead: The Fake Outrage (It's Still Not About Ethics)

Thank you! I saw this video on my subs feed when it was uploaded, but held off on watching it for some reason. Cuphead is actually a nice example of how dismissive the games community can be towards critique. They try to twist critical analysis as an attack on the medium. I'd say anybody who "doesn't get" articles like the one written over at Unwinnable on Cuphead should sit through this video, but judging by some of the replies in this thread, it's still likely to fly over their heads.

Pablo Mesa said:

Here, no one (as far as I know, I didnt read the thread when the unwinnable article was out)

on the internet? the idea was thrown around, mostly trolling but some serious. and as a personal I still think the articles were trying to tie in the game itself with the idea of racism due to the art style

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Do you mind linking an article that states this?
The one article that I know of (the one the video speaks of) was written on this simply discusses how the art style reminded the author of old racist cartoons. Which is demonstrably true, Cuphead is a game that has influences from cartoons that feature overt racism. In essence, it's a game that has, in some form or another, benefited from the long history of racism in the US.
This isn't a condemnation of the game, I love Cuphead and wouldn't change a thing about it, it's just the start of an interesting conversation on art and the history of the US and this specific art style as it pertains to Cuphead.
This might not be a conversation you're interested in, or one you might find silly or whatever. But you are a part of a community of people who like discussing games and gaming culture on such a level so...

CannonFodder52 said:

You know he argues that his weight loss and improved appearance is due to kicking the SJW mindset.

*this is not an attack on his appearance

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I did not know that. I'm not convinced it I know it even now that you've told me. That's a difficult thing to process.

If you can't help but scream and rant in front of your toy collection due to the critical reception of one of the most positively received games in recent memory, then maybe you are not very good at dealing with criticism. And that's sadly true, gamers and anime fans are very often incredibly poor at dealing with criticism and attempts at shutting down critical discussions are common. I just can't imagine being a grown up adult and taking it personal when a website has issues with a video game I enjoy.

Pablo Mesa said:

is not about the discussion of it, is about the over reaching it had to some degree, what the games evokes =/= the intention of the creator. but it was thrown here and there that the game was being racist or that it should change cause of that as if it was the original intention of the devs to be racist emselves (which they did not)

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People aren't actually making the argument that the intent of the creators was to be racist. The video posted in the OP actually did a great job tackling this subject. It is okay to talk about an attribute of a game, and its problematic aspects, without thinking that the game itself, or its creators, is evil or bad.

Htown said:

That concluding paragraph, though:

I feel like a lot of capital G "Gamers" are so threatened by journalism that simply asks questions or sparks debate because they'd rather be totally passive and uncritical consumers of a predictable and unchanging product. And any hint of outside influence possibly interfering with the imagined purity of that product and its creation process is taken as an outraged attack. Or maybe it's simply being reminded of the fact that games even have a creation process at all that's so infuriating for them. You know, games aren't created in a process by artists. They just happen, and we as gamers buy them. And game journalists only exist to give every game a high score, and provide us with a sense of shared experience and reassurance in our enjoyment in the medium. We don't just want to have fun, we need to be told we're having fun. And anyone theorizing about things possibly being done differently is just ruining the fantasy, really.

Fuckin' preach, dude.

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God damn that's so true. I always thought gamers had the biggest validation problem when it comes to the enjoyment of their medium over anyone else. I don't know whether it's the communal nature of games or whatever but it's nuts how prevalent it is. Take any review thread or GOTY discussion. And then, we expect gamers to be able to take it to the next level and make it political, discussing nuanced issues about the portrayal of the people in games or the stories they are trying to tell. Anything that strays from the norm or hype train is deemed a conspiracy or plot to change or dilute games when in fact political discussions about games enhances them.

Fucking christ, Alpha continues to be a clown. No comprehension and debate abilities. Literally just spews hot takes out his ass.

Wasn't there a thread here a few days back about cuphead and racism? Just reading the title I thought it was non-sense, but it makes perfect sense as an alt-right thing, I guess.

thistooshallpass said:

Wasn't there a thread here a few days back about how cuphead and racism? Just reading the title I thought it was non-sense, but it makes perfect sense as an alt-right thing, I guess.

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It was never nonsense per se. Cuphead is based on a cartoons that either had racist images or were drawn from older American cultural traditions that were dripping with racist images. That's always been there. But that doesn't mean that there's an anti-Cuphead lobby or that Cuphead is promoting racist ideas or anything.

Not being American probably helps, but I somehow didn't learn about minstrel shows until I was at least a teenager. Yet I had learned a lot of the songs from Bugs Bunny (obviously the broadcasts I was watching didn't have the most blatant stuff), and had learned what vaudeville was. It was kind of a shock to learn that Jimmy Crack Corn was a slavery thing; I just thought of it as an old-timey song as a kid. I think when people want to talk about racism and Cuphead, the feeling might be similar.

This guy's Great Replacement Video is fantatic.

The strawman inventing that he criticised in this Cuphead video is pretty much what populist governments, populist religious sermons and tabloid newspapers and media do to stir up emotions.

While I agree with the video about style, I do think that Dean Takahashi and VentureBeat shouldn't have uploaded that footage. I don't find it funny, I don't think it's cute. It's irresponsible and gives a bad image for the game, it gives a horrible impression of the outlet and certainly a horrible impression of someone who has been covering (and reviewing) video games for 21 years based on his bio. Frankly, the footage calls any review he was responsible for into question and I sincerely hope that his reviews didn't affect any of these studios in a negative way. I know that we're talking about one person and one outlet.... But what if it's not? We've all seen some truly awful gameplay footage uploaded by these media outlets and are these people qualified to have the responsibility of something that gets viewed by hundreds of thousands of people and often influences purchasing decisions? It's a discussion worth having in my opinion.

He has been a tech journalist for more than 28 years, and he has covered games for 21 years.

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There's certainly an argument to be made that game journalists should be able to manipulate a controller without getting stuck on the most basic of tutorial sections in a video game. Especially someone who has been doing this for 21 years. This isn't my 90 year old grandmother. This isn't the react channel. He's not providing an interesting perspective and I wouldn't want someone illiterate and deaf reviewing a novel because it's all just scribbles to them. Especially when these scores can contribute to the overall metacritic and a single review could mean the difference between receiving or not receiving a bonus.

To Takahashi's credit, he went back and fixed his Mass Effect review after acknowledging that he was wrong and that the mechanics he completely missed made the game significantly more enjoyable. I have nothing against the guy outside of thinking that footage never should have been published and I wonder how these play sessions were conducted in light of the Mass Effect/Cuphead incidents. I just think that this is a general complaint against how serious people take these professional outlets, their reviews and developers tying review scores by these outlets to their contracts are playing with fire.

Pablo Mesa said:

im not talking about the video alone tho. most about the overall lambasted the game took for a brief time when it 1st was brought into attention the co-relation of that era cartoon with racism and some people and outlets extended that co-relation to tell CH was being racist.

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You are literally the uninformed gamer the entire video is about. You just need a shitty youtube channel to compliment it. The only people that got mad are people that were arguing against phantoms.

Alexander DeLarge said:

While I agree with the video about style, I do think that Dean Takahashi and VentureBeat shouldn't have uploaded that footage. It's irresponsible and gives a bad image for the game, it gives a horrible impression of the outlet and certainly a horrible impression of someone who has been covering (and reviewing) video games for 21 years based on his bio. Frankly, the footage calls any review he was responsible for into question and I sincerely hope that his reviews didn't affect any of these studios in a negative way. I know that we're talking about one person and one outlet.... But what if it's not? We've all seen some truly awful gameplay footage uploaded by these media outlets and are these people qualified to have the responsibility of something that gets viewed by hundreds of thousands of people and often influences purchasing decisions? It's a discussion worth having in my opinion.

There's certainly an argument to be made that game journalists should be able to manipulate a controller without getting stuck on the most basic of tutorial sections in a video game. Especially someone who has been doing this for 21 years. This isn't my 90 year old grandmother. This isn't the react channel. He's not providing an interesting perspective and I wouldn't want someone illiterate and deaf reviewing a novel because it's all just scribbles to them. Especially when these scores can contribute to the overall metacritic and a single review could mean the difference between receiving or not receiving a bonus.

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Is this serious? Or is it a parody or meme I'm not familiar with?

That was a really good video, thanks for sharing it. Shows how some buffoons reinterpret nuanced critique as outrage, and then reply to that manufactured outrage with real outrage.

Alexander DeLarge said:

While I agree with the video about style, I do think that Dean Takahashi and VentureBeat shouldn't have uploaded that footage. It's irresponsible and gives a bad image for the game, it gives a horrible impression of the outlet and certainly a horrible impression of someone who has been covering (and reviewing) video games for 21 years based on his bio. Frankly, the footage calls any review he was responsible for into question and I sincerely hope that his reviews didn't affect any of these studios in a negative way. I know that we're talking about one person and one outlet.... But what if it's not? We've all seen some truly awful gameplay footage uploaded by these media outlets and are these people qualified to have the responsibility of something that gets viewed by hundreds of thousands of people and often influences purchasing decisions? It's a discussion worth having in my opinion.



There's certainly an argument to be made that game journalists should be able to manipulate a controller without getting stuck on the most basic of tutorial sections in a video game. Especially someone who has been doing this for 21 years. This isn't my 90 year old grandmother. This isn't the react channel. He's not providing an interesting perspective and I wouldn't want someone illiterate and deaf reviewing a novel because it's all just scribbles to them. Especially when these scores can contribute to the overall metacritic and a single review could mean the difference between receiving or not receiving a bonus.

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Not every games journalist is good at every type of game, and that's ok. Because not every reviewer is going to review every type of game. Second, Dean Takahashi, largely is much more involved with tech than playing games. Third, the article was uploaded as a form of self deprecation, aka a joke, taking it as anything more than that let alone as a reason to question the career of the person is trugamer™ logic. It wasn't even a review, it was a POSITIVE preview that also happened to be played by the one person who was there. Fourth, there's no discussion to be had about the skill level of people who review/critique games. Because who gives a shit?

Crossing Eden said:

This is so perfect:

This video too, is genuine perfection in how succinctly it addresses the truegamer™ reaction to gaming journalism asking their audience to think more critically about the art we consume.

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This video series is a great example of whats wrong with these people




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExEHuNrC8yU

Watch all 6 videos!!

TheMango55 said:

Video was fantastic until it got to the "Cuphead is racist" part and basically said "It's totally fake outrage and nobody said Cuphead is racist, plus here are all the reasons why Cuphead could be considered racist"

It's like asking "Is launching satellites into orbit is anti-Semitic? I'm not saying it is or it isn't, but here are a bunch of reasons why it could be"

EDIT: Modern rocket technology owes a lot to Nazi scientists, to anyone confused by my comparison

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You should finish watching the video

The right wing's ability to fabricate these kinds of propaganda narratives out of thin air is incredibly disturbing. It reminds me of an old argument about how conservative media works: At 9AM Fox & Friends makes up a story about a thing they read about on Breitbart last night, then by 2PM the afternoon anchors are reporting on how "many people are talking about" this new controversy, then by 9PM Hannity is asking why the rest of the media aren't talking about this thing they just made up 12 hours ago, and then by 2AM Trump is tweeting about how the media is ignoring this. And meanwhile an army of Russian bot accounts tweet and retweet these articles, creating an appearance of legitimacy when in reality only a couple hundred people at best have any knowledge of this """issue."""

Crossing Eden said:

Fourth, there's no discussion to be had about the skill level of people who review/critique games. Because who gives a shit?

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Well, your point was fine until this part.

L Thammy said:

It was never nonsense per se. Cuphead is based on a cartoons that either had racist images or were drawn from older American cultural traditions that were dripping with racist images. That's always been there. But that doesn't mean that there's an anti-Cuphead lobby or that Cuphead is promoting racist ideas or anything.

Not being American probably helps, but I somehow didn't learn about minstrel shows until I was at least a teenager. Yet I had learned a lot of the songs from Bugs Bunny (obviously the broadcasts I was watching didn't have the most blatant stuff), and had learned what vaudeville was. It was kind of a shock to learn that Jimmy Crack Corn was a slavery thing; I just thought of it as an old-timey song as a kid. I think when people want to talk about racism and Cuphead, the feeling might be similar.

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I suppose to put it another way, CH's conundrum is that as a game, it basically goes, "Hey, remember 1930s cartoons?" And in doing so, while it will invoke joyful nostalgia and an eager "Yes!" for many, for some the answer is an awkward, uncomfortable, "Yeah, I do..." as they recall the racial imagery many of those shorts had.

I mean, it's not exactly an uncommon issue for nostalgia in general. A lot of westerns weren't exactly racist but the genre is in part known now - immortalised by skewerings like Blazing Saddles - for the incongruity of being based on something that was often very racist. If it can happen for a whole genre based on the time period that inspired it, so too can it happen for a single work also based on the works of a given time period.

Edit: As another example, Star Trek DS9 has Sisko lay the same general critique at the feet of an in-universe holographic program that has become popular among station staff:
https://youtu.be/puBrFifxSSM
The observation that fiction can make people uncomfortable by proxy of what it is based on simply is not new or limited to video games.

Hadn't heard of this Shaun fellow before. Good shit. Subscribed.

So it takes a Youtuber to get the message across that it's the writers who cover games that receive the most sneer and derision from......Youtubers?

Yes I am being a tad facetious there.

The pall that was cast over this game (not to mention Takahashi himself, the actual flesh and blood human here) because of this whole affair was shameful. Pure and simple. He's forgotten more than any of us will have ever learned about the medium and art-form of games.

A video essay such as this which outlines its argument, or outright makes it statement first, and then goes about illustrating the point seem designed to split those who watch them into two groups - the first group shakes it head and closes the window, stopping the video at the three or five minute mark because they think they already know whether they agree or disagree. The second watches the whole thing and then might comment about it on another platform.

I still think there's a mercenary element within the Gaming Youtuber sector that operates just underneath the surface, gleefully anticipating something like a member of the "old media" getting absolutely attacked, for no sane reason. Some of them are even happy to let their masks slip off from time to time.

This video dips its toe into those waters, but stops short of really diving in.

Similarly, the way social media has evolved in recent years, where 'threads' are used, to practically be essays themselves.....about other people's writing.

Instead of articulating that you have a different point of view, you end up weaponising your audience against the person.

I agreed with a lot of what the video said, yes. I am definitely going to go and read some more games criticism though as a result, and you should too.

This person has been consistently posting 10/10 memes. They made that in relation to that quote in Shaun's video.

As already mentioned, this happened here on Resetera. It shut down discussion pretty hard.

Pablo Mesa said:

Here, no one (as far as I know, I didnt read the thread when the unwinnable article was out)

on the internet? the idea was thrown around, mostly trolling but some serious. and as a personal I still think the articles were trying to tie in the game itself with the idea of racism due to the art style

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A cursory Google search of 'Cuphead is racist' turns up only the articles that are being blatantly mischaracterized, the people blatantly mischaracterizing them, and a few comments in reviews about how the developers made the right decision in avoiding the racist caricatures. There is no 'Cuphead is racist'-movement. It's at most a few posts scattered across a multitude of forums. Projecting those posts (or the views of a hypothetical 'Cuphead is racist'-movement) onto all discussion is nothing more than a disingenuous attempt to shut down discussion.

Pretty upset I was tricked into hearing AlphaOmegaSin speak. Shame on you OP.

Kilic95 said:

Well, firstly, don't call people retarded. That's a slur.

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Sticks and stones...

I mean, you guys realize that press don't play games in the same environments you do, right?

I uploaded a video of a game a few months back and the reaction to it was "They couldn't get someone who has touched a game in this series before to play this?"

Or "Does this guy even play games at all?"

The footage came from a loud event, where that game was the last game I played, while a PR person talked in my ear the entire time. I was also starting from a middle section without a tutorial and thinking of questions for my interview later. And then I watched the footage again and it was completely fine? It wasn't a speedrun, but there was nothing terrible or bad about it.

Which is when I personally realized that everyone thinks of their own gameplay as perfect because they only record or remember the times they do great. Footage that doesn't match that Superman-esque version of themselves is just people being worse than them.

Basically what I'm saying is if you're watching game footage and your first instinct is "I am so much better than this person!" you should, like, think about how little that actually means.

MrHeisenbird said:

Sticks and stones...

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nah, that's not cool to use in such a flippant way

Can't believe I used to watch AOS for like a month before it became blatantly obvious what type of person he is. I feel vile knowing he has only gotten worse since then based on that video lol.

Shaun is fantastic as usual and deserves mad praise and respect, doing good work pointing out the hypocrisy and downright childishness of these people.

Disappointing to see that IMC actually had a critical eye once and could've amounted to something but now... yeah.

It's also not just a discussion about Cuphead but about gaming communities/culture in general I feel. Whenever a game's value and intent is questioned there's a not insignificant amount of people who are quick to try and shut down that discussion at all. Amazing to think that only one side is being accused of "attacking" with the strongest pieces of evidence to support that being 2-3 articles with no insults or calls to action to speak of whilst the accusers are calling for people to lose their jobs using hyperbole and absolutely insane hypotheticals to rally their clearly toxic fanbase who go all the way issuing death threats of course.

It gives gaming communities a bad name it's sad to see.

Crossing Eden said:

Not every games journalist is good at every type of game, and that's ok. Because not every reviewer is going to review every type of game. Second, Dean Takahashi, largely is much more involved with tech than playing games. Third, the article was uploaded as a form of self deprecation, aka a joke, taking it as anything more than that let alone as a reason to question the career of the person is trugamer™ logic. It wasn't even a review, it was a POSITIVE preview that also happened to be played by the one person who was there. Fourth, there's no discussion to be had about the skill level of people who review/critique games. Because who gives a shit?

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Your third argument would be fine if it was the initial intention of the video/article, which it wasn't, since it was later edited to make it seem self-deprecating, after the backlash, the original title was "Cuphead demo at Gamescom: It isn't easy".




The fact that the team behind the video changed the title made the backlash worse (unfortunately for them).

Kinsei said:

A woman criticized The Witcher 3. I wish I was joking.

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What? Really?

RM8 said:

If you can't help but scream and rant in front of your toy collection due to the critical reception of one of the most positively received games in recent memory, then maybe you are not very good at dealing with criticism. And that's sadly true, gamers and anime fans are very often incredibly poor at dealing with criticism and attempts at shutting down critical discussions are common. I just can't imagine being a grown up adult and taking it personal when a website has issues with a video game I enjoy.

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Agreed so hard. Popular long term gaming console brands and series have fanbases that will not allow any criticism whatsoever, even when valid.

Then they'll pull the card when you want less sexualized women in an industry with an over abundance of it that we are somehow "ruining" their favorite thing.

Blizz said:

Your third argument would be fine if it was the initial intention of the video/article, which it wasn't, since it was later edited to make it seem self-deprecating, after the backlash, the original title was "Cuphead demo at Gamescom: It isn't easy".


The fact that the team behind the video changed the title made the backlash worse (unfortunately for them).

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I'm noticing the thumbnail says "Dean Takahashi of Gamesbeat has a moment of shame as he fails to pass a level in Cuphead." Which sounds quite self-deprecating to me. Perhaps the title was changed to make it more obvious that this was the intent after facing backlash for someone having the audacity to not play to Gamers expectations.

I don't think it matters either way. There is no justifying the people who got upset at a video of a game being played and then tried to spin it as some attack on them.

sredgrin said:

You are literally the uninformed gamer the entire video is about. You just need a shitty youtube channel to compliment it. The only people that got mad are people that were arguing against phantoms.

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Pablo Mesa said:

People getting mad at CH for the art style is plain and simple fool (edited out), It was not the intention if the developers when using early cartoons style, its even over reaching trying to co-relate both the art style with the sentiment of the era and the reflection of the cartoons of the era emselves.
Everyone is entitles to their opinion and what they feel, but you can project those sentiment as is the world is hell bend on create em and make you feel bad

as for Miles he is just an attention seeker

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Completely agree. Studio MDHR did absolutely nothing wrong, and it's unfortunate their first venture into gaming is met with the Alt-Left associating their game with racism.

Bleedgreen007 said:

Completely agree. Studio MDHR did absolutely nothing wrong, and it's unfortunate their first venture into gaming is met with the Alt-Left associating their game with racism.

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Can I get a quick confirmation on whether this comment is satirical or not? Just verify if this is a Poe's Law type situation...

Oddish1 said:

I'm noticing the thumbnail says "Dean Takahashi of Gamesbeat has a moment of shame as he fails to pass a level in Cuphead." Which sounds quite self-deprecating to me. Perhaps the title was changed to make it more obvious that this was the intent after facing backlash for someone having the audacity to not play to Gamers expectations.

I don't think it matters either way. There is no justifying the people who got upset at a video of a game being played and then tried to spin it as some attack on them.

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There's a difference between the people who attacked the journalist based on the video and people who criticized the gameplay of the journalist.

six months ago cuphead was the last game i'd think to garner any semblance of 'controversy'. i fully understand how it came about but man... times have changed

NICHIJOUDENSETSU said:

How / why is this discussion even a thing? Legit question.

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Because the real Outrage Culture is actually the people who look at anyone engaging in basically criticism with a social lens and freaking the fuck out.

Blizz said:

There's a difference between the people who attacked the journalist based on the video and people who criticized the gameplay of the journalist.

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I don't know what that has to do with what I said.

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I don't know what that has to do with what I said.

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People are allowed to not like ("be upset" to you) the gameplay that was presented and everyone who criticizes it isn't attacking the journalist.

Crossing Eden said:

Fourth, there's no discussion to be had about the skill level of people who review/critique games. Because who gives a shit?

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so if you try to sell your house and someone goes to examine it to give an assessment of the house and a price, doesnt matter who does it and it can give your house a terrible rating hurting it sales prospects?? cause thats exactly the same as it sound when you said skill level of someone reviewing a game should not be taking into account, that is so ludicrous

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six months ago cuphead was the last game i'd think to garner any semblance of 'controversy'. i fully understand how it came about but man... times have changed

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It really didn't gain much in the way of controversy... yet here we are, in a thread dedicated to a video criticizing people running with false narratives, indulging in a narrative that is, at the very least, grossly exaggerated.

As per usual, the real controversy is in the criticism of a nonexistent controversy. The people that cry outrage culture seem to be the only people that are part of said culture. The world is a deeply strange place.

MrHeisenbird said:

Sticks and stones...

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Can break bones but names can dehumanize too.

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People are allowed to not like ("be upset" to you) the gameplay that was presented and everyone who criticizes it isn't attacking the journalist.

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"and then tried to spin it as some attack on them."
I think it's pretty clear who I'm referring to. And if I wasn't clear, it's pretty safe to infer (based on the thread we're in and video that it's the subject of) that I was referring to people who used the video to manufacture a controversy and outrage.

Blizz said:

Your third argument would be fine if it was the initial intention of the video/article, which it wasn't, since it was later edited to make it seem self-deprecating, after the backlash, the original title was "Cuphead demo at Gamescom: It isn't easy".

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But uhhh it that not literally what people celebrate about it

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Spoiler

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Sounds like reasoned criticism and examination of the issue at hand....

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"and then tried to spin it as some attack on them."
I think it's pretty clear who I'm referring to. And if I wasn't clear, it's pretty safe to infer (based on the thread we're in and video that it's the subject of) that I was referring to people who used the video to manufacture a controversy and outrage.

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The problem is that those who criticize it are also lumped in those who manufactured the controversy.

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Pretty upset I was tricked into hearing AlphaOmegaSin speak. Shame on you OP.

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Even the name alone induces cringe....

Blizz said:

The problem is that those who criticize it are also lumped in those who manufactured the controversy.

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What is there honestly to criticize? It was a preview, which was accompanied by a positive article on the game... And he didn't write the review.

wasn't in thir very forum a thread asking if cuphead's artstyle was ok?