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Nilou

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Well at least we're taking out the trash, though it would be nice if our lgbtq brethren didn't have to come face to face with the vileness on display here.

Sadly it feels like no matter how many threads we have/how many bans there are the next inevitable thread will be just as full of them as the last. Certainly praise the mod action but it's still pretty disheartening.
 

Nappuccino

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I'm kind of shocked CDP is this tone deaf considering the general themes of Cyberpunk 2077. Which makes me worried Cyberpunk 2077 is going to terribly mishandle some of these themes.
 

Catshade

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I'm still cautiously optimistic with Cyberpunk since it was written and supervised by the original game designer.
 

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I'm not expecting much from them but I do expect more sock puppets to heed the siren songs of the woodchipper

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Benji

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I've had Geralt as my avatar for years

I'm genuinely considering changing it now
 

McScroggz

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I want to believe they are just cynically co-opting a current social movement to raise awareness about something they are passionate about and a snarky tweet is their misguided idea of how best to do that.

But I think that's giving them too much credit.
 

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The silence from CDP and CDPR is very telling.

Very clear where they stand or we would've heard something by now other than the "apology" tweet that was even worse than the offensive tweet.

Fuck them and fuck that entire company too for just standing by and letting this shit happen.

It sucks its this shit company doing a Cyberpunk game, doesn't bode well for that game either.
 

rokkerkory

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No response yet?? This company has to respond to this.

Not supporting CP2077 until they express remorse for this at least.
 

Dalik

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Well at least we're taking out the trash, though it would be nice if our lgbtq brethren didn't have to come face to face with the vileness on display here.
Lgbt here, let them come. The sooner we get rid of the trash, the better. Ironically this type of thread is what helps this site being not a cesspool like reddit or twitter.
 

Facubsf

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Will i be banned if i say i just don't understand the hate with the cdpr tweet? . I'm not using sarcasm, honestly I only see it as a joke. Maybe I'm not too invested but I just can't see how someone could get offended by something like that.

To each their own I guess.
 

Kinsei

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Will i be banned if i say i just don't understand the hate with the cdpr tweet? . I'm not using sarcasm, honestly I only see it as a joke. Maybe I'm not too invested but I just can't see how someone could get offended by something like that.

To each their own I guess.
There's big red text in the OP explaining things.
 

svacina

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Will i be banned if i say i just don't understand the hate with the cdpr tweet? . I'm not using sarcasm, honestly I only see it as a joke. Maybe I'm not too invested but I just can't see how someone could get offended by something like that.

To each their own I guess.
If it's merely a joke, it's an inappropriate one, given the circumstances.

And their twitter history does not even suggest it was really a joke.
 

Rathorial

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Respectfully, that sounds like you're setting unreasonable requirements for you to ever accept there might be something wrong with their culture.
No company will ever publicly state "yeah we're transphobic", regardless of whether they are or not.

The signs are here, you just choose to ignore them. That's fine, but don't frame it as "giving them the benefit of the doubt". Any doubts were thoroughly dispersed by now.

No, I'm just setting different requirements, and they're not to your subjective standard. I am not going to judge the overall culture of a company as having a phobia for an entire type of people, just because of a handful of a tweets from a few employees. None of their statements represented outright hate to me, just insensitivity and clumsiness. I find it irresponsible how they run their twitter account and take feedback, but I'm not willfully choosing to ignore signs...I'm just not taking them to the same conclusion as you. It's fine if your doubts have been dispersed, but since mine haven't I can still frame them.
 

nemoral

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Or you could read the thread, where several trans people explain why it's a problem. Or just be an empathetic human being and understand that mocking a hashtag about people literally losing their civil rights is probably a stupid thing to do. But yeah, just keep assuming that it's a problem with the people upset, not the asshole that made the tweet, then deleted it because he clearly knew it was going to upset people.
 

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Will i be banned if i say i just don't understand the hate with the cdpr tweet? . I'm not using sarcasm, honestly I only see it as a joke. Maybe I'm not too invested but I just can't see how someone could get offended by something like that.

To each their own I guess.
Nothing funny about people's rights being erased.
 

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Will i be banned if i say i just don't understand the hate with the cdpr tweet? . I'm not using sarcasm, honestly I only see it as a joke. Maybe I'm not too invested but I just can't see how someone could get offended by something like that.

To each their own I guess.

OP is very clear.

Miss me with this shit.

Do you know how many other alts have tried this shit lol?
 

Alimnassor

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This guarantees Cyberpunk 2077 is trash. Already knew considering how bad the writing was and how they made the sole Indian person a cab driver. Jesus Christ I'm so fucking disappointed and ashamed to ever supported them or GOG. I've since deleted my account. Lot of $$$ gone but, I refuse to play games hosted by GOG even if I own'em. Fuck I hate this industry, I hate being a video gamer. I just think I'll stick to indie games I can trust. *sigh* Just fucking *sigh*.
 

Rikster

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Im not going too boycott CDPR some of those people who work there have nothing to do with this, but I do agree this shit is not okay. The fact this is even a thing in 2018 is gross. I'm glad GOG finally responded but they really shouldn't be using that hashtag as a joke.
 

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Will i be banned if i say i just don't understand the hate with the cdpr tweet? . I'm not using sarcasm, honestly I only see it as a joke. Maybe I'm not too invested but I just can't see how someone could get offended by something like that.

To each their own I guess.

You probably will for not reading the thread title to read the OP and ignoring the Mod post that was on top of the OP post.

The hashtag was being used in a push back fight for trans folks to show to Trump that they won't be erased and CDP was using it as a joke, this doesn't look good for a company that has already gotten in trouble for their previous transphobic tweet.

The follow up tweet is worse:



I don't think anybody is getting fired.


What kind of fucking response is that? They clearly don't realise what they did wrong nor do they care.
 

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Will i be banned if i say i just don't understand the hate with the cdpr tweet? . I'm not using sarcasm, honestly I only see it as a joke. Maybe I'm not too invested but I just can't see how someone could get offended by something like that.

To each their own I guess.
you'll probably be banned for seeing transphobia as a joke. rightly so
 

Polygatari

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I find it astonishing how hard people find it to not say offensive stuff. It surely takes more energy to say something offensive and antagonistic, than it does to just shut up.
 

Virdix

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Kind of bummed to see youtube/twitch people I used to watch doing GOG sponsored Thronebreaker streams and not commenting on this.

You would think with Kotaku/Eurogamer/USgamer picking it up it would be noticed more.
 

Amiibola

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Saw this Yesterday. As someone who loves paying for retro games these guys lost me as a customer completely. I can't tolerate them anymore.

And i just got Descent from when it got on sale last time, fuck.

Worst thing is, i think they absolutely know what they're doing. This is not a rogué, bigoted CM, CDPR knows what's going on and they approve it.
 

rumplestilts

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Kind of bummed to see youtube/twitch people I used to watch doing GOG sponsored Thronebreaker streams and not commenting on this.

You would think with Kotaku/Eurogamer/USgamer picking it up it would be noticed more.
There might be contractual stuff that makes it more complicated if they did a deal with CDP.

That's NOT and excuse, but it is an explanation. Some people really fear corporate lawyers and potential loss of revenue.
 

Volphied

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Yeah, I was already worried about Cyberpunk 2077 removing the "punk". And this shitty tweet only confirms to me that the people at CDPR won't be able to handle this topic in a respectful manner. For many people, the entire cyberpunk genre is just rainy sci-fi cities for them, they don't see any social commentary whatsoever.

Considering how ass-backwards Poland and pretty much the rest of the former Eastern Block is on LGBT rights, I shouldn't find this surprising. Especially since I LIVE in this part of the world. Trans people are treated as a joke AT BEST.

I hate this place.
 

Amauri14

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Man I must be missing this but where did they reply? I checked the OP and the past few pages.

Edit: searched the thread but couldn't find it, decided to just search the web.



This is it. It's not even a fucking apology or anything lol. Seriously, if you fuck up once shit happens. But three times? At this point it feels like you agree with what your social media guy is saying tbh.

Wow, they really don't care. That tweet is basically just the classic "I'm sorry you were offended" non-apology bullshit and then a promised that I doubt they are going to follow as this is the third time they have done this.
 

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That apology is not even really an apology. Again.

So unless they publicly take a stand in support of trans issues I am done with them. That is my only way as a consumer to make a stand.

I have Witcher 3 on psn and if I could I would give up the license. Or is that possible? Right now I don't even want to own anything they made.
 

Redcrayon

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Their non-apology reads like the passive-aggressive logic of a grumpy adolescent, told off for writing insults in the grime while washing the car, then suggesting that the only possible conclusion is that they never wash the car again if people are going to get upset.
 

monketron

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Makes you wonder what the thinking behind that tweet was. Why even bother when you're operating a business account? What did they seem to think they'd get from it? Are they just deliberately trying to court the GG/Alt-right crowd? Surely they knew it wouldn't be received well.
 

Redcrayon

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Will i be banned if i say i just don't understand the hate with the cdpr tweet? . I'm not using sarcasm, honestly I only see it as a joke. Maybe I'm not too invested but I just can't see how someone could get offended by something like that.

To each their own I guess.
'Not too invested'. You don't have to be 'invested' to see that a global media company, taking potshots at minorities currently being redefined out of existence in the US in order to promote their new computer game, is both wrong and not funny. Try rewording it using a hashtag for any other civil rights campaign to promote games. If Games Workshop used 'Black Lives Matter' to promote a shooter featuring its 'Black Templar' space marines it's not exactly hilarious and would be seriously inappropriate too. That doesn't mean social media needs to be humourless (GW recently promoted its new ork vehicle model kits based on real car and fighter plane press material/videos to a great response), the idea that 'we should only talk about games' as if transphobia is the only form of humour they know (and they've got form) is ridiculous.
 
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Bowser

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That is sooo disappointing. Appears the culture there is non-inclusive and doesn't care for diversity.
It is disappointing and disgusting indeed but what do you mean by 'there'? As a person who has lived in Poland for many years I find some of the generalisations in this thread pretty sad. Them writing transphobic tweets has nothing to do with them being based in Poland.
 
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I've recently taken over social media management for MP1st and I find it literally incredibly easy to not tweet stupid shit like this. Like. Excessively easy.

It's incredible to see that literally no one will be held accountable and there hasn't been any apology.

There are times and places for all jokes. Good, bad, offensive, etc. This isn't one of them. Get your shit together GoG.
 
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