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BREXIT MAFIA PHASE 2 | Border-Line Insanity!
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What if I tunneled on you, Stark. Would that bring you any emotion.
Yeah DS posted that a lot. Just as an aside he is a total ass.
He was scum but so much of a dick to a team mate they quit the finals, he whined that he didn't win the vote, he got banned from the discord for being salty. Then last week I was watching video mafia where he was playing, he got lynched as scum day and went into spec chat and spoiled the whole mafia team.
Kids if mafia anger persists for 5 minutes after you exit the game please consult a doctor
Sorry, I corrected myself. But you've just been all around evasive and wishy washy with what you've been saying.
For example: You asked about tunneling...
... and gave this answer which I'm confused by.
And when I pointed out you were being vague, there was this reply
And then after that you've got a small handful of posts that don't really say much.
There's also your vote on B-Dubs, which kinda came out of left field? Maybe it's because I don't quite understand Gorlak's train of thought right now however.
It just strikes me weirdly anti-town, even if I can't fathom why you'd be so blatant as scum....
Yeah, Grizz is an interesting one to me right now. Gorlak too. Both of them seem like they would be strong players on Town, but I've caught weird vibes here and there and I like some of the other reads I've seen on them. I'd say I'm more neutral on Gorlak and more Scum leaning on Grizz for now.
Yeah, I'd probably put Faddy, Nin, and Gir in my early Town list. Nin and Faddy just because they both feel Town to me based on previous experiences. We haven't played with Gir before, but he seems legit and he's brought up some good points, seems to be scum hunting to me. What are your thoughts on him?
GP I don't have much of a read on yet. He made that point about Stu that I had also picked up on, so that made me feel good, but it doesn't mean much overall.
Since you're reading me, I'll flip it around and say I don't fully buy into my Slip narrative, it was more of a #SickRead lol. I do like this post from you now though, feels a lot better than what you were saying before. But you also haven't been Scum yet, so since I totally think you could be a sneaky one I'm not giving you a pass just yet haha.
And then yeah, Zeke is a strange one. We'll see how that goes I guess, I don't know if I'd want to vote for him today though personally, there's others I'd go for first.
This stands out to me tbh. There are a lot of people who haven't done much worthy (including myself iknow). Why empressdonna and Kalor stand out to you?
I deal with Grizz a lot in mod chat and so far he feels largely the same to me, there was one moment he felt odd when I was looking through the day's posts. It wasn't anything I could point at and say he's scum, it was more like instinct on my part, but I've never played with him before so it might just be that on my part.
Zeke I agree, he's not my target today. I'm definitely going to be looking at how he votes today and what he does on D2 though.
Gir, well, Gir seemed surprised we weren't all jumping on the Nin train then had that small exchange with Gorlak almost immediately after. If you told me the two of them were scum together I might believe it. Of all of Gir's posts, this one seems the most interesting to me:
It points us all towards a meta town read on him, only he's the one bringing it up. He's basically trying to get us to town read him based on post count, which could easily be a scum play. If I rolled scum and had a previous meta in that role, I'd try and go against it for sure. At the very least it would buy me a few day phases of freedom and trust.
Okay now that I am home (last post was on mobile x.x urgh. So slow at typing on it)
This really rubs me the wrong way. You think it would be interesting to vote B-Dubs (who you already have a vote down for:)
And while the reason for it is one thing, the fact that you're trying to get others to vote that way and get them to help you out with reasons for it. It just rubs me the wrong way.
Feels like asking a class mate to do your homework for you.
This really rubs me the wrong way. You think it would be interesting to vote B-Dubs (who you already have a vote down for:)
And while the reason for it is one thing, the fact that you're trying to get others to vote that way and get them to help you out with reasons for it. It just rubs me the wrong way.
Feels like asking a class mate to do your homework for you.
Yea, but why not vote me earlier? Why was that post the last straw?
I like your read on Gorlak, Stuart.
What do you think of that "emotional breakdown on B-Dubs" stuff he mentioned above? I can't place my finger on it, but it rubbed me the wrong way especially after he said he wasn't scum reading B-Dubs (but was voting for him)
What do you think of that "emotional breakdown on B-Dubs" stuff he mentioned above? I can't place my finger on it, but it rubbed me the wrong way especially after he said he wasn't scum reading B-Dubs (but was voting for him)
*shrugs*
It wasn't really a "last straw" type deal. It's just something that's been building up.
Speaking of which, I don't get this reply either
Honestly it reads to me as BS. He't not scum reading him, votes for him anyway and then tries to get others to. Then explaining it's because of Dubs being traumatized and hoped others would back him up on it.
I've played with Town Gorlak a few times but this is the first time I've felt super bad about his posts so my instinct now is to lean scum on him.
That is a good point, and I remember that post not because of the post count part necessarily, though that did stick out too and I like your observation there, but it was the part about the Red Flag. I just remember thinking that was so off compared to how I was reading Nin.
Yeah, that was how I felt too. Like I said, I don't think anyone has asked me to vote for someone over 24 hours before the day phase ends, and especially not so early in the game as a whole. That was just so weird to me.
I think I would have been less down on Gorlak for that move if me and Fantomas hadn't already given an opinion on the B-Dubs situation. It feels very much like the nin situation where he wanted to throw himself into a place where multiple people were alrady focussed. It didn't really feel like solving.
We are still less than 24 hours into the phase so maybe it makes sense for Gorlak to be going where the activity is but I don't feel good about it.
I'd probably be ok with any of the following at this point, though we still have plenty of time still:
ET
Grizzly
Gorlak
Probably in that order. Kind of unsure on Alexem too, haven't played with him before but something about his participation feels weird to me I guess? And then DCPat made a post about him a little bit ago, and Faddy had namedropped him earlier, so he's on my radar at least. I'm also waiting to hear back from Donna again.
Sorry for the wait Fantomas.
I've kind of already covered my feelings on the votes on Faddy and the reasoning for Nin's early claim, so I won't retread old ground on that since nothing has changed for me on those.
Firstly, I'll cover the three that were in the 'fluffy post exchange' as I called it earlier:
- Stu: NAI to me, doesn't seem like his scum or town play. I honestly don't remember the last game he was joking about like this though but he could have changed up his play style again.
- B-Dubs and ET: They both set off alarm bells in my head however for different reasons. For B-dubs it is because I don't believe I've played with them so I don't know if this is something that is common and for ET, it is just because of meta alone rather than separating that play from this.
In regards to yourself, I feel you are town due to the questions and poking of others that you are doing. There are some people I'd like to hear more from as well though I am certainly not one to talk.
I've kind of already covered my feelings on the votes on Faddy and the reasoning for Nin's early claim, so I won't retread old ground on that since nothing has changed for me on those.
Firstly, I'll cover the three that were in the 'fluffy post exchange' as I called it earlier:
- Stu: NAI to me, doesn't seem like his scum or town play. I honestly don't remember the last game he was joking about like this though but he could have changed up his play style again.
- B-Dubs and ET: They both set off alarm bells in my head however for different reasons. For B-dubs it is because I don't believe I've played with them so I don't know if this is something that is common and for ET, it is just because of meta alone rather than separating that play from this.
In regards to yourself, I feel you are town due to the questions and poking of others that you are doing. There are some people I'd like to hear more from as well though I am certainly not one to talk.
To clarify on that post: I don't know if B-dubs messing around with fluffposts like this is common. It's just something I find strange/unusual but like I said, it could just be lack of experience on how they play mafia.
Going to bed, sorry I did not post that much tonight. I will do better tomorrow, you can count on it.
Updated list:
Scummy players so far:
Grizzly
Extreme Tactician
Lazy players so far:
Sophia
Giant Panda
CoolestSpot
EzekelRAGE
Alexem
Empressdonna
The last two just coast along an try to get along with everyone.
Not feeling the Gorlak push to be honest but then again it's a Merkel rip off we talking about
Updated list:
Scummy players so far:
Grizzly
Extreme Tactician
Lazy players so far:
Sophia
Giant Panda
CoolestSpot
EzekelRAGE
Alexem
Empressdonna
The last two just coast along an try to get along with everyone.
Not feeling the Gorlak push to be honest but then again it's a Merkel rip off we talking about
What do you think about Kalor? I feel like he fits in this list, it's like he's just lurking in the shadows and only comments sparingly.
Hmm.... gonna go read up on Grizzly. He's being a blindspot for me right now, and that's slightly unusual?
Come to think of it, DCPat's a blindspot too right now.
What's your meta read on ET? Just curious because my own meta on him as Scum is part of why I'm voting for him.
B-Dubs can do some shitposts but I did feel it was a little more than I remembered this time. Now that he's around today though when there isn't just a bunch of shitposting going on it feels more like the Town-Dubs I remember.
Do you have any thoughts on Grizzly and/or Gorlak?
Well let's look at his posts since the day started:
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Yeah I can see why he'd fit into that list. His main non-fluff posts are the 3rd and 4th ones. Need to see more from you Kalor.
Side note: I laughed at this considering my first game involved you 3 and me as a scum team.
Grizzly I'm always wary with, like I said earlier, he's a professional busser and he does try to think about the long game. Always wary.
DCPat's a blind spot for me right now as well I'll admit. Don't have a good read on him as of yet.
Gir and Nin have both voted him and brought up some good reasons before doing so. This post was quoted by both of them as being a scummy post:
And then their votes where they quoted that post:
Hmm... yeah I can kinda see where both Gir and Nin are coming from there.
I also don't like the fact that both of my scum reads are on the same player:
I especially don't like how Zeke uses Gorlak's post as a reason to jump onto the vote and then saying Subject to change (like no duh, we're not even near EOD yet, of course all votes up til now are subject to change as our feelings change in this game).
I'm sure he'll reply with his usual stuff like "shrug" or "Interesting" though...
I especially don't like how Zeke uses Gorlak's post as a reason to jump onto the vote and then saying Subject to change (like no duh, we're not even near EOD yet, of course all votes up til now are subject to change as our feelings change in this game).
I'm sure he'll reply with his usual stuff like "shrug" or "Interesting" though...
Side note: once you see the player list, it shouldn't be hard to figure out how active a game is likely to be. Quite a few high posters here :P
I mean, Grizz ain't wrong. We don't have a ton to go on, it's D1. We've been going off of activity, meta, and who has been jumping where.
By the by, it kinda feels like Faddy hasn't been posting a ton. When I go back and look his posts seem fine, it's just this impression I've got.
The B-Dubs slip is interesting and something to keep and mind, but I didn't get any scummy vibes from his reaction to it. I could buy that he was frustrated that he might get lynched so soon.
Maybe I should re-read Grizzly's posts, but I didn't get anything scummy from him either at the time. He played down the importance of some the reads people were discussing, but they were day 1 reads so I can understand that too.
Maybe I should re-read Grizzly's posts, but I didn't get anything scummy from him either at the time. He played down the importance of some the reads people were discussing, but they were day 1 reads so I can understand that too.
The only game I've played with him was when he was scum in Marvel, so yeah my meta-reading of him right now is 100% based on that alone since I've not seen his town play before.
Grizzly is a difficult one for me. I don't think he is acting like his scum self from either of the games I've played with him in, though then again, he has been the most town read scum before in one of those games. Right now, I lean towards town on him but that is just based on my feelings at the moment.
On Gorlak, I am leaning towards maybe scum? Mostly because I agree with you on that it felt a little early to ask others to jump onto a vote that they may not be sure on. I don't know, something doesn't seem right there.
It almost feels like Zeke is trying to slide into a Blargonaut role where people give him a pass for everything because they've been silly all game. Though, often people eventually snap and suddenly decide to lynch Blarg from what I remember. So that wouldn't be a good long-term game plan for a scum Zeke.
I looked up the post counts to see how much I had posted. I'm around the top for early day 1. Other than nin's huge volume no one else feels off. Fantomas is posting freely, probably as town. Stuart is always higher volume. The surprising "top posters" are Grizzly who I don't really have an opinion on, I need to go and read him too. And B-Dubs. He has already surpassed his Conspiracy day 1 totals.
Conspiracy D1 was a couple of days after becoming an admin. Kinda had to get used to the extra workload. Still a bit annoyed I missed EoD and couldn't call out Fanto before I died.
Re-read of Grizzly, and I don't really see much that makes me lean either way. The one thing that did stand out was this post...
... if only because it reminds me of what I've done when I'm voted against and slightly on the defensive. That is, downplaying the vote. It seemed a little defensive tho, I guess? It's just one vote on Day 1, after all.
... if only because it reminds me of what I've done when I'm voted against and slightly on the defensive. That is, downplaying the vote. It seemed a little defensive tho, I guess? It's just one vote on Day 1, after all.
Reading Grizzly I am fine with a null on him. Most of his stuff is 1 liners but he has interjected across a whole range of topics. Although not many strong stances. The absolutbro thing just fizzled out, but so did my melon thing. You can't wait forever for a prod vote to respond...
About Grizzly, this post stuck out to me at the time.
It feels like they're just throwing out stuff against other people and seeing what sticks.
It feels like they're just throwing out stuff against other people and seeing what sticks.
Yeah it feels like you are playing along in real time a bit more here. In conspiracy I think you got lynched because you just weren't playing. Plenty of people in the same boat here. From Extreme Tactician down there is a lack of presence. Out of that group Donna has the best posts imo.
extreme tactician: 11 alexem: 8 turmoil7: 8 kalor: 7 dcpat: 7 empressdonna: 6 giant panda: 5 absolutbro: 5 melonrabbit: 4 z-beat: 4 coolestspot: 4
Oh, I was out when he posted this and forgot to come back to it (thanks to Faddy for posting the post count thing, I noticed CS there and it reminded me about this lol)
CS. this is completely NAI for me but I think quite a few of us are used to your gambits now. So when I read this, I'm just like "Typical Coolest".
It's probably a BS implication (the implication being you can give out items as I can't see what else you would infer from that), almost certainly BS.
All I ask is that if you're town this time, try not to BS town too much with gambits that may or may not pay off. Like claims of aliens which scum runs with right to the victory line.
CS. this is completely NAI for me but I think quite a few of us are used to your gambits now. So when I read this, I'm just like "Typical Coolest".
It's probably a BS implication (the implication being you can give out items as I can't see what else you would infer from that), almost certainly BS.
All I ask is that if you're town this time, try not to BS town too much with gambits that may or may not pay off. Like claims of aliens which scum runs with right to the victory line.
I think this was what I couldn't really put into words about how I've felt about Grizz so far. Seems like he just casually comments on stuff I guess.
My main concern in D1 tends to be with players who might be coasting. (And yes, I can see why I might be raising some concerns for that - I admit that I tend to wait until I have something to add before speaking.) I'm glad that we've heard more from empressdonna, but I'm still getting a similar vibe to her now as I did in Sneakers - could just be me reading too much into things, but it's a feeling I can't shake. Kalor also seems to have been there but not been there, so I'd like to hear more of his take on things in the morning.
As for other quiet posters - I'm happy to give Melon the benefit of the doubt with regards to the start time, but AbsolutBro, Panda and Z-Beat seem a little too quiet to be immediately concerning right now - I would typically expect scum to be a little more active to blend in. Spot is just a wild card either way to me.
Anyway, that's all from me tonight, I'll check back in the the morning.
Silly pollywaggle. Trix are for kids.
I was just asking in case another player wanted some so another player could give them for the holidays
I mean, this is D1 - I am going to point out tiny things that stick out. It's less about throwing stuff against other people, and more putting it out to the public what points I've mentally made.
*cracks knuckles*
Posting/"disappearance"- I'm working. Keep weird hours. Truckdriver. When game started yesterday, was already close to me going to bed. Thought about posting that earlier, but where's the fun in that? Decided to have some fun, see who jumps on it/reactions etc.
Got a lil more time to go read the thread.
*shrug*
Posting/"disappearance"- I'm working. Keep weird hours. Truckdriver. When game started yesterday, was already close to me going to bed. Thought about posting that earlier, but where's the fun in that? Decided to have some fun, see who jumps on it/reactions etc.
Got a lil more time to go read the thread.
*shrug*
ET: He has only talked of Nin's claim and a little more, of the current vote leaders he is the one who inspires the less confidence to me.
Bear: Sometimes ambivalent, sharing thoughts, can't say I lean one way or the other on him
Dubs: When it looked like he lost his temper it felt town to me, if he were scum I don't think he would likely react like that knowing he has his team covering his back, also I wouldn't like to see him or Fanto lynched too soon as I think that my thought on #411 could come in handy later.
I was thinking on voting for Zeke due to his weird attitude but he is back and looks like he will post more substantial stuff, probably
I wouldn't vote for Stu because I see nothing remarkable about him so far, both for good and bad, he is very active at least.
A priori Sophia looks like the policy lyncher in chief, going after both nin and zeke. Easy targets? She didn't vote for nin at any point but she was doing the argumental heavy lifting. In fact I was surprised went I didn't see her among the former nin voters.
Right now I would be comfortable voting for ET or any of the other lower activity players, but I will go
VOTE:Sophia
instead
Bear: Sometimes ambivalent, sharing thoughts, can't say I lean one way or the other on him
Dubs: When it looked like he lost his temper it felt town to me, if he were scum I don't think he would likely react like that knowing he has his team covering his back, also I wouldn't like to see him or Fanto lynched too soon as I think that my thought on #411 could come in handy later.
I was thinking on voting for Zeke due to his weird attitude but he is back and looks like he will post more substantial stuff, probably
I wouldn't vote for Stu because I see nothing remarkable about him so far, both for good and bad, he is very active at least.
A priori Sophia looks like the policy lyncher in chief, going after both nin and zeke. Easy targets? She didn't vote for nin at any point but she was doing the argumental heavy lifting. In fact I was surprised went I didn't see her among the former nin voters.
Right now I would be comfortable voting for ET or any of the other lower activity players, but I will go
VOTE:Sophia
instead
It would bring me joy. I would have someone who knows the pain and dedication such tunneling can take.
What if I tunneled on you, Stark. Would that bring you any emotion.
*insert clip from Justified of Raylan or Boyd saying "we dug coal together"
Ok, read thread will explain some of my posts.Im on mobile so was using them as bookmarks so I could remember to go back to it later.
Lols - was in response to bdubs and grizzly.
Bdubs response to fan seemed like an overreaction.
Grizzly -him pointing out that I used a shrug and trying to do w/e he was trying to in bringing it up made me feel scummy about him.seemed like a scum reach.
Interesting- were posts that made me wonder and go into conspiracy theory mode. Think I did it for gorlak sophia and fan. Will go into more detail o. How I views the posts separately.
Lols - was in response to bdubs and grizzly.
Bdubs response to fan seemed like an overreaction.
Grizzly -him pointing out that I used a shrug and trying to do w/e he was trying to in bringing it up made me feel scummy about him.seemed like a scum reach.
Interesting- were posts that made me wonder and go into conspiracy theory mode. Think I did it for gorlak sophia and fan. Will go into more detail o. How I views the posts separately.