I do want to look into Gir. I'm not an expert on middle of the line bussers so I'm not sure if his vote was a buss attempt but I have trouble thinking of many noticeable posts from Gir. (Sorry Gir!)
I do want to look into Gir. I'm not an expert on middle of the line bussers so I'm not sure if his vote was a buss attempt but I have trouble thinking of many noticeable posts from Gir. (Sorry Gir!)
It is what it is. I don't fault you for voting me, however.
On another note, my reads are a bit shot because my biggest town read (Fantomas) got NK'd and I didn't expect ET to flip scum, so I'm kinda rethinking stuff now. I'm leaning town on both you and Ezekel at the moment. Not really sure what to make of Stuarat's vanilla claim, but much like Nin's it's not too alignment indicative I think? Unless there was something I missed.
I'm kinda interested in the low/no posters right now, as I do agree that there's usually scum hiding in there, so I might go back and read them over in a bit.
Could've swore I mentioned on more than one occasion that I'm on mobile and signal is weak. I at least mentioned it once. Or is Donna the only that use irl reasons? I know I mentioned it last day phase cause gir understood it when he wanted something.
I know I mentioned it this days phase cuz I mentioned it taking like 5 minutes to quote something on a current page.
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You only scum read me for a dubs vote.
Honestly this feels like you are desperate to see me lynched and just reaching.
Not voting for the wagon competing againt ET doesn't look good on him?
Yeah, don't think about it, it's a claim that can't be proven anyway. so ignore it.
Side note: interesting typo haha. "Stu a rat" lol
Dumb gambit. Less dumb than all of your gambits so far though.
In my defense I had a slight scum lean on Zeke going into today. Him posting fanto's reads moved him into town lean for me though.It's late and I don't have stamina to write a long read list right now. But I'll do something more simple, and group up players based on my initial thoughts.
Scummy:
Sophia - Worrysome voting patterns, I've detailed it in my posts today.
Kalor - Worrysome voting patterns, seems oppoturnistic in the same way as Sophia.
Faddy - Early potential bus vote on ET, then for rest of day mostly pushed CS without actually committing to voting him himself. Scummy behaviour in general.
Slightly scummy:
Giant Panda - Really trying to lay low. Not much valuable contributions at all. It's so noticeable though that it's not coasting.
Gorlak - He is really aggressive. That is a valid way of play, but he seemed to sort of chase everything without real rhyme or reason? He was also 100% absent during D1 end for some reason. If Gorlak is town, he will be a valuable asset. But right now I don't know if he is.
Coasters (usually scum hiding here):
Empressdonna - Had IRL reasons though, but was pushing CS. Kind of flying under the radar in general.
Absolutbro - Had IRL reasons though. Hope to see more of you today.
melonrabbit - Has posted, but has given me absolutely no impression at all. Worrying. Tried to push for CS at the end.
Alexem - I keep forgetting he exists. Some favorable voting patterns though.
Z-Beat - Same as melon - I have no impression of him at all.
Neutral:
Stuart - He is just all over the place really. Heavy defending ET, today being aggressive and angry and martyrdom - but I just aren't able to read him as scum at this conjecture. His posts do seem genuine and not fabricated - a far cry from scum Stuart in Monopoly and lot closer to town Stuart in Kingdom Hearts. But all those points above do push him down.
Gir - He has contributed, but he feels bit colorless and mellow - like he tries to stay low. Feel bit better of him than coasters though.
EzekelRAGE - Like Stuart mentioned, him staying on Dubs was odd. In general something in his posts rubs me the wrong way - can't pinpoint what it is though.
Slight Town Lean:
nin - I haven't liked his posts in D2 (he is just being plain mean), but in general my read of him in D1 was favorable town.That said, he also tried to push for CS at the end with melon.
CoolestSpot - He seems like the usual Coolest, doing weird shit. That's not alignment indicative really. However, D1 didn't feel like scum vs scum vote, so that gets him points from me.
DCPat - Had important last vote on ET. Posts have felt pretty good in general.
Town Lean:
Turmoil - In general I've liked his posts. Also was one of the first to push ET into legitimate lynch target with his vote. That said, scum are sometimes serious bus drivers, just look at me in Monopoly lol.
B-Dubs - Also voted ET relatively early, and in an important spot. I also like his posts in general, seems like he has drive to solve the game. The push for Zeke being a liar today was dumb though.
Kalor's voting patterns can be easily read. Do that at least now, Sophia.
Has anyone ever seen Faddy as scum? I can't say I have either, so I only have town Faddy to go off.I haven't sewn Faddy as scum so I can't say. People also change their tactics deliberately from game to game.
I haven't sewn Faddy as scum so I can't say. People also change their tactics deliberately from game to game.
Don't boss me around, thanks. :p
Looks like Kalor's initial vote for ET was when ET had a lead, which is a fairly safe spot for scum to jump onto. You can say you were on the vote, and claim it was because one's personal choice wasn't happening.
Kalor:
Kalor's post where he says Grizz isn't happening and he doesn't suspect CS, he then votes ET. He then votes for CS but claims he changed his mind and forgot to delete it so switched back to ET. Those votes seemed very suspicious and was like a Bus attempt where he was contemplating switching his vote to CS (assuming CS is town and Kalor is scum) but then switched back because he thought ET was more likely to happen and wanted to be on the scum lynch. Of course I'm not saying he lied that he forgot to delete that vote, on the contrary, I think that was a mess up of Scum!Kalor possibly where he had to really decide if he wanted to switch from ET or not. To Bus or Not to Bus, that is the question!.
Still not totally sure on him but for now, he's in my lean scum pile
Read List:
Scum:
GP: his coasting on D1 plus his lazy vote on me and then accusing me of calling it an OMGUS vote when he knew it wasn't. Then like I said, the way he mentions ET for some reason as possible scum then later drops him and when asked says he may still be a good choice but the reasons for voting for him was typical D1 stuff. His whole D1 was weak.
Zeke: Him being the last person to speak with Fanto makes me suspicious of him. On top of that, despite being around plenty, he kept with his first vote which was piggybacking off of Gorlak and said his vote was subject to change. He never changed it.
Lean Scum:
Kalor:
Kalor's post where he says Grizz isn't happening and he doesn't suspect CS, he then votes ET. He then votes for CS but claims he changed his mind and forgot to delete it so switched back to ET. Those votes seemed very suspicious and was like a Bus attempt where he was contemplating switching his vote to CS (assuming CS is town and Kalor is scum) but then switched back because he thought ET was more likely to happen and wanted to be on the scum lynch. Of course I'm not saying he lied that he forgot to delete that vote, on the contrary, I think that was a mess up of Scum!Kalor possibly where he had to really decide if he wanted to switch from ET or not. To Bus or Not to Bus, that is the question!.
Still not totally sure on him but for now, he's in my lean scum pile
Sophia: That vote Grizz posted feels really bad in retrospec which is the main reason she is here now.
Lean Town:
Donna: Explained in an earlier post
Grizz: His posts today have made me feel pretty good about him. Need to see how today goes but he's in a lean town for me now.
Z-Beat: Might not be too much from him but he does remind me of him from KH and he was town there so I'm leaning town on him.
Town:
Nin: Despite not liking the way he acts today, this doesn't feel like scum Nin based on his last scum performance. Pretty sure he's town.
Turmoil: Feeling pretty good about them. Pretty sure they are town. Looked back at his first vote on ET and his response to my asking why ET instead of CS. Feel really good about them.
Anyone not here, I'm unsure on currently. I'll try and update this read list before the end of the day phase. with any changes as the day goes on.
To be fair I wasn't 100% commited to that vote. But I am never going to move off the vote leader when they have done nothing to make me think they are town. Coolest really put me to the test though.
I'd still consider Stuart. The defensiveness, and what I think are insincere arguments, continuing into today is still rubbing me the wrong way.That's a great way of thinking. Who besides of me would sou suggest taking a close look into?
I also did not like this vote because it's justification seems off. By this point CS had gotten near ET but had never been in the lead or tied. Might have been scum trying to create a false narrative about CS.Vote: CoolestSpot
I don't like the sliding battle between CS and ET. Feels like someone is trying to save CS.
Dumb gambit. Less dumb than all of your gambits so far though.
Me, for one. I don't feel particularly strongly either Grizzly or ET. If I have to pick between them then I suppose ET has been more fluff than not.
I wouldn't vote CS today despite the mess of that gambit. But I was entertained.
Zeke feels off to me but I'm not getting a scum vibe more of a sense that's he holding a few extra cards and there is somewhere he is going with all this.
I don't like how AB is just gone. Z-beat and B-Dubs too. Lots of people in the middle.
I just caught up after getting home but I feel good about Nin and gir. No real reasoning beyond what my gut thinks. I'm wary of ET and maybe you, although I seem to always be wary of you on D1 for some reason.
Caught up on the posts over night. General thoughts
Gorlak and Sophia both seem like town, just with different approaches.
Not sure what to make of Stus insistence that his play is similar to previous games. Being consistent is hardly indicative of anything. I can understand why he might be frustrated at people reading into his play if it is the same as previous games, but other games don't matter here.
Feel okay about Ezekel right now.
I have a nagging feeling about Grizzly and I'm not quite sure why.
So I have a vote down, although I don't know if I'll stick with it since they mentioned they won't be around much.
Vote: Grizzly
I want to stick with the Grizzly vote but the lack of both players being here for this sort of makes it weird.
That supposedly Fanto's readlist Zeke posted mentioned Melon's #880 post
This was after my vote and minutes before Bdubs'
Why exactly didn't you vote for ET again melonrabbit ?
What was all that #hubris bussines about? I am missing some meta here? nin
5. [f] Sophia - EST
We love each other deep inside that's what she can't stand. The love runs deep. Otherwise I liked that she pushed back against me yesterday. She challenged me while others just relaxed.
Still, while I do love her something feels off. This could be her playstyle that just does not sit well with me. Will keep an eye for her but will also give her the benefit of the doubt. No vote for me today my love.
XDLove is over when you claim vanilla at the start of a game, dear.
That's the quote and only time Sophia gives an actual opinion on ET. The context looked random. It's in response to Z-Beat, who talked with Fantomas. She wasn't involved there at the time.I didn't have a very good impression of ET starting this game out. Not quite outright scum reading, but his early posts were fluff. I hope when he returns he'll change that and get engaged.
Who is eating breakfast for 2 hours straight?
Me, for one. I don't feel particularly strongly either Grizzly or ET. If I have to pick between them then I suppose ET has been more fluff than not.
I wouldn't vote CS today despite the mess of that gambit. But I was entertained.
Zeke feels off to me but I'm not getting a scum vibe more of a sense that's he holding a few extra cards and there is somewhere he is going with all this.
I don't like how AB is just gone. Z-beat and B-Dubs too. Lots of people in the middle.
I should learn to read and not bring up old stuff. Mhm, only two hours ago...
Eeeh, that reads like a cop out.As I said I didn't feel that strongly either way between grizzly and ET and CS' overall performance seemed suspect.