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Ultimadrago

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This is going to be weird to type out, but while I find this a solid review, it almost feels like there's a subtext of forewarning throughout including the thesis. Like, "This game has some really sloppy issues, but I found ride worth it." This isn't the first time I've gotten that inkling from the title's reception either. I can respect that to a degree, but this review adds to the notion that I think it may not be for me. In honesty, I didn't like the original Xenoblade Chronicles very much either, but it was alright and I was open to give this a shot. It's a bit of a shame but thanks for the review, Ben!
 

Elfforkusu

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This is going to be weird to type out, but while I find this a solid review, it almost feels like there's a subtext of forewarning throughout including the thesis. Like, "This game has some really sloppy issues, but I found ride worth it." This isn't the first time I've gotten that inkling from the title's reception either. I can respect that to a degree, but this review adds to the notion that I think it may not be for me. In honesty, I didn't like the original Xenoblade Chronicles very much either, but it was alright and I was open to give this a shot. It's a bit of a shame but thanks for the review, Ben!
IMO it's a notch below XB1, but a notch above XBX.

I'd say in all likelihood if you didn't like the first, you probably won't like this one. It's more flawed, but shares a lot of the same strengths (that world design! that exploration!)

A sports show just talking about betting odds with Don and Huber
Oh my god.

This is the one!
 

FUNKNOWN iXi

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I'm starting to feel a little distant from the Allies, and I'm questioning if I'll renew my Patreon pledge. I know they have a lot of stuff to deal with, and they can't please anyone, but it really feels like a large amount of their fanbase is being outright ignored lately. We need a SportsTalk podcast. This has gone on long enough.
I bet you got a lot of people with this post lol.
 

Ultimadrago

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IMO it's a notch below XB1, but a notch above XBX.

I'd say in all likelihood if you didn't like the first, you probably won't like this one. It's more flawed, but shares a lot of the same strengths (that world design! that exploration!)

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!


Also, man the special "appearances" in the Tabletop Escapades finale got me in the heart.
*sniffle*
 
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Servbot24

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Really wish they had kept the grandma birthday cards bets secret from the public. There is always someone willing to manipulate these as we saw in the past on the main podcast
All it takes is one highly devoted Jones fan...

I'm rooting for Ian though, simply because he always makes me laugh when he has to pretend to be in the competitive spirit :P
 

JayC3

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Regarding the card bet, I think if someone wants to spend a bunch of time and money on finding unique Grandma birthday cards, then...that would actually be kind of hilarious. The betting specials are zany enough as it is and involving the audience is just asking for something like this to happen. I hope they can take a picture laying them all out because thinking about it, even 40 unique types seems way too high to me (esp. assuming most people are coming from the US and how mass market cards are).
 

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The worst part of the bet is that you can help Jones win but not Ian. Maybe someone should buy a huge pack of identical cards and fill the box so that no legible cards can go in there :p
 

Greysif

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I've been seeing lots of Xenoblade 2 streams by Damiani, seems he changed his mind about the game?
 

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The worst part of the bet is that you can help Jones win but not Ian. Maybe someone should buy a huge pack of identical cards and fill the box so that no legible cards can go in there :p
That makes no sense,I don't think you understand how counting non dupes works.If you're an Ian fan you just empty the box into the bin
 

IDreamOfHime

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We'll he's streamed about 25 hours so far, if he's not into the game then he's literally wasted a day of his life playing it so far.
 
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In what way? It seemed he was quite down on the game the last time someone mentioned his streams in here.
well he tweeted that xb2 is a massive disappointment

i guess he changed his mind at least a little if he's still playing, i can't watch the stream since i plan to play the game..
 
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Tregard

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Damn, looking forward to some upcoming RANK...THE SIGNIFICANCE segments given the glut of Megaman announcements this week and the Game Awards and PSX on the horizon.
 

jett

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No Bosman stream last night? I was hoping for more Musashi.
 
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We'll he's streamed about 25 hours so far, if he's not into the game then he's literally wasted a day of his life playing it so far.

Watched part of his first stream since someone said he was having trouble with battles and got to a part where damiani asks chat how to cancel. They tell him and he tries it and then says doesn't seem like a cancel and doesn't do it again lol. Didn't watch it much further but found that part too funny.

Anyways I'm 6 hours into the game and it's pretty good, the blade combo system seems to make sense and haven't had issue with combat so far. Right now my biggest major gripe is with the lip sync. It's so off especially for Rex the voices don't seem like they are even coming from the characters. It's very distracting, it was so much better in xc1 (I liked the voice acting a better as well). Considering switching to Japanese just for lip sync at this point.
 

Charamiwa

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i'm still unsure about my feelings on the MM 11 graphic style
I think it looks pretty good, but we now live in a world where indie games can look about 10x better than this. Compare Megaman 11 with something like Owl Boy, Hollow Knight, Inside or Cuphead, and suddenly it doesn't look so hot.

I think we can be excited because it's still Capcom and some good people are working on it, but at first glance it's not anything special. I mean even Ducktales Remastered (published by Capcom) looked more impressive than that.
 

TC McQueen

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Anyways I'm 6 hours into the game and it's pretty good, the blade combo system seems to make sense and haven't had issue with combat so far. Right now my biggest major gripe is with the lip sync. It's so off especially for Rex the voices don't seem like they are even coming from the characters. It's very distracting, it was so much better in xc1 (I liked the voice acting a better as well). Considering switching to Japanese just for lip sync at this point.
According to the folks in the XB2 name change thread, lip syncing doesn't really exist in Japanese either. Whatever system they used for that wasn't able to be tuned for either language before release.
 

Joqu

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I think it looks pretty good, but we now live in a world where indie games can look about 10x better than this. Compare Megaman 11 with something like Owl Boy, Hollow Knight, Inside or Cuphead, and suddenly it doesn't look so hot.

I think we can be excited because it's still Capcom and some good people are working on it, but at first glance it's not anything special. I mean even Ducktales Remastered (published by Capcom) looked more impressive than that.

I'm surprised you feel that way about Ducktales. Maybe it's just me, I guess it's a matter of preference, but I sort of hated the way the 2d art clashed with the 3d backgrounds there. I feel like 11's 3d is way better looking than it.
 

Charamiwa

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I'm surprised you feel that way about Ducktales. Maybe it's just me, I guess it's a matter of preference, but I sort of hated the way the 2d art clashed with the 3d backgrounds there. I feel like 11's 3d is way better looking than it.
No I agree, I hated the 3D too. But the 2D art was just marvelous in my opinion, which is why I hold it in such high regard. Let's say it has higher highs than Megaman 11, which looks just... alright all around.

I guess my overall point is that in a world where 2 people can make a game as gorgeous and cohesive as Hollow Knight or one guy can make Axiom Verge, it weird to see these big companies under deliver like that for their big franchise. That kind of goes for Mighty Number 9 and Bloodstained as well.
 

Joqu

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No I agree, I hated the 3D too. But the 2D art was just marvelous in my opinion, which is why I hold it in such high regard. Let's say it has higher highs than Megaman 11, which looks just... alright all around.

I guess my overall point is that in a world where 2 people can make a game as gorgeous and cohesive as Hollow Knight or one guy can make Axiom Verge, it weird to see these big companies under deliver like that for their big franchise. That kind of goes for Mighty Number 9 and Bloodstained as well.

I see what you mean. Personally I just couldn't get over the contrast between the 2D and the 3D in Ducktales, but you're right, the 2D art did look great there.

I feel like I'd rate Megaman's 3D quite a bit higher than Bloodstained's, and both of them are in a different league compared to how Mighty Number 9 looks. I dunno, I guess I'm ok with it. But I'd definitely take some gorgeous 2D art over either of them. That said I'm really not against 3D sidescrollers and 11 could shine if they improve on it some. I mean, I wish New Super Mario Bros games looked as good as Megaman.
 
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I just came here to say. DAI didn't deserve GOTY and should be dismissed! Still salty those gotys made me buy this game...

According to the folks in the XB2 name change thread, lip syncing doesn't really exist in Japanese either. Whatever system they used for that wasn't able to be tuned for either language before release.

That's a real shame. I hope they fix it in a patch some how. Its so distracting and this is probably the only time I remember lip sync being so noticeable. Would love to hear jones' opinion on it as well. Reminds me of those old kung fu film dubs.
 

Tankard

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Just caught the end of Cup of Jones live, anything worth discussing happen?

I think he was a little more clear this time, but i think it's better for people to check by themselves than doing little summaries to avoid confusion.

One thing that he clarified is that being neutral and always trying to see the good in people is just who he is, and that he apologizes if that is not the way some people wish he would react (not in a "i don't care" tone just so i'm clear). And that he will be holding conversations with other Allies about how they should communicate things to us Allies.

He read some messages with specific questions from the community, including from LiquidSolid, that posts/posted on here). He said a lot of things, it starts at approximately 1h6mins, iirc.
 

Dmax3901

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I think he was a little more clear this time, but i think it's better for people to check by themselves than doing little summaries to avoid confusion.

One thing that he clarified is that being neutral and always trying to see the good in people is just who he is, and that he apologizes if that is not the way some people wish he would react (not in a "i don't care" tone just so i'm clear). And that he will be holding conversations with other Allies about how they should communicate things to us Allies.

He read some messages with specific questions from the community, including from LiquidSolid, that posts/posted on here). He said a lot of things, it starts at approximately 1h6mins, iirc.

Thanks, I'll check out the full video later.

The allies don't like PUBG, don't know why everyone wants them to stream it.

This... isn't true? Pretty sure Ben, Huber and Ian have all played it and loved it.
 

Tregard

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I wonder if the Allies would consider doing a Pilot Season to test out new show ideas they have, would be a fun annual event that would get them good feedback. I might float the concept for the next CoJ.
 
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