Yep, less updates and an actual promotional team is what this game desperately needed. Teaming with Deep Silver is definitely a good thing.
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Shenmue Community |OT| The day the snow turned to rain
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The Kickstarter process of explaining to people how game development works and showing things ultra early is great except most people interested in games are fucking morons who have no idea how things work and flip out like this shit's ready for release. Glad they're easing up on updates and having a team that knows how to manage promotion handle this from now on.
Lovely to see the Shenmue community reborn on here, with most of us making it over. Happy to see you all.
I've looked through the thread and don't see Spaghetti though? Is he aware we're all here? Loved his insight, hope he joins us.
I've looked through the thread and don't see Spaghetti though? Is he aware we're all here? Loved his insight, hope he joins us.
Does the promotion team consist entirely of Europeans? It's certainly a step in the right direction, but I'm curious how this will turn out, as it's essentially going to be a Japanese developed game promoted by Europeans for a North American audience. A lot of wires could get crossed.
Great to see Segas official Twitter promote a newly released Shenmue themed Yokosuka guide book.
Released on the 3rd, ironically. More information can be found here:
http://www.cocoyoko.net/news/shenmue.html
Released on the 3rd, ironically. More information can be found here:
http://www.cocoyoko.net/news/shenmue.html
Love seeing when Sega renews their interest in Shenmue, and thus registers the series' existence after a decade long hiatus and almost permanent silence prior to Shenmue 3. Makes me hopeful for Shenmue HD which has to be an inevitability at this point.
Anyone heard from Spaghetti yet? He was the best poster (along with ShenmueGuru) in our former community. Would be great to see him here.
Anyone heard from Spaghetti yet? He was the best poster (along with ShenmueGuru) in our former community. Would be great to see him here.
From reading this thread, and learning of ShenmueGuru's insightful thoughts on it, I'd echo him in stating that the most likely reason is timing. Sega are going to want to maximise potential sales and revenue, and to do that they'd need to position Shenmue HD around Shenmue 3's release. I wouldn't be surprised if internally at Sega Shenmue HD was planned for December 2017 but when Shenmue 3 got delayed the HD remasters probably were too.
The most probable and likely timing is going to be Shenmue HD in the lead-up to Shenmue 3's launch. So presumably Autumn/Winter 2018.
Hey Ghost! Thanks for the kind comments! Me and Spags work together on the Shenmue Lounge so I talk to him every day. I will check again, but I think he has been having some trouble getting his account here sorted. I will see what's going on.
Unfortunately yep, as much as we want to see HD, it is a business. To make money. Sega know this and I'd say they just want to capitalise on Shenmue 3 sales, as well as HD sales, so releasing them close together makes sense to maximise public awareness, which translates to profit. From what I have heard from reliable sources, the rumors are true, and the games do exist. But even I have trouble on a daily basis wondering why they are just "sitting around" somewhere, when they could be out in the wild and making a steady stream of income. But, Sega....
But who knows. Perhaps my, and other outlets sources are completely wrong, and HD games just do not exist. On the one hand, I would be shocked. On the other, I would just eye roll at a very poor business decision, from a company who are now renowned for making poor business decisions. But if Bayonetta and Vanquish are anything to go by, Sega are moving in the right direction, and at the minute, it's just a matter of remaining patient.
Unfortunately yep, as much as we want to see HD, it is a business. To make money. Sega know this and I'd say they just want to capitalise on Shenmue 3 sales, as well as HD sales, so releasing them close together makes sense to maximise public awareness, which translates to profit. From what I have heard from reliable sources, the rumors are true, and the games do exist. But even I have trouble on a daily basis wondering why they are just "sitting around" somewhere, when they could be out in the wild and making a steady stream of income. But, Sega....
But who knows. Perhaps my, and other outlets sources are completely wrong, and HD games just do not exist. On the one hand, I would be shocked. On the other, I would just eye roll at a very poor business decision, from a company who are now renowned for making poor business decisions. But if Bayonetta and Vanquish are anything to go by, Sega are moving in the right direction, and at the minute, it's just a matter of remaining patient.
The wait for Shenmue HD is honestly excruciating. We all know it is happening, and everything points to it probably being close to if not already completely finished. If it really is being shelved until sometime before Shenmue III launches then can we at least get something like Skies of Arcadia or Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown ported in the meanwhile? The dripfeed of SEGA PC ports has been so frustrating.
But yeah, hoping Spaghetti can join soon, really appreciate their viewpoints and general effort on everything. This place feels a little empty without 'em.
But yeah, hoping Spaghetti can join soon, really appreciate their viewpoints and general effort on everything. This place feels a little empty without 'em.
What's everyone's thoughts on the latest update? I've been waiting for that kind of transparency from this game. Good sign.
I just want it to reach its fullest potential and if that means sacrificing steady monthly updates, I'm ok with it. I'm most interested in the line from the update "we are also looking into other media and events besides updates" and if that will include more live steams on their official twitch channel. I would most like to see how a meeting plays out similarly to this clip in the Making of Shenmue special during a live stream.
If I had to guess, they're waiting for a firm release date for 3, then they'll make their move on the HD versions and probably release closer to when 3 is out. As tough as the wait is, it benefits both sides if they do it that way tbh.
I hope the HD collection happens no matter what, but I wish for Sega to follow through and give us something that preserves the legacy as it deserves.
These are the things I feel the remaster project NEEDS:
Who would care about implementing all of these though? Who willl Sega choose (or have chosen) to take on the responsibility? Bluepoint is the best example I would give, but they are busy on another big project, and the guy who made the fan project in the video below is now working on Shenmue III.
These are the things I feel the remaster project NEEDS:
- Dual audio - Many of us have fond memories playing the games in different languages.
- Bring over II's gameplay improvements - Features such as time skip would improve the pacing of Chapter 1.
- Persistent save file - Allows to continue with your Shenmue save file in II: experience, money, items etc.
- Uncompressed audio - Yeah... nobody appreciates low bitrate audio.
- 16:9 widescreen support - The once major glitches that existed with forcing widescreenhave now been eliminated.
- Improved controls - Dual analog stick support should be a given.
- Improved draw distance - Would make it more immersive to not have NPCs or environments jarringly pop in.
- Improved load times - Shenmue fans we're very patient, but why make us wait longer than we have to?
- Full HD textures - I would hope cleaned up textures would go without saying, but there's a LOT of them.
- Shenmue Passport in its entirety - Cause, we want it all to be preserved.
- Physical release - Old-school fans want a physical version containing both games to OWN alongside Shenmue III.
Who would care about implementing all of these though? Who willl Sega choose (or have chosen) to take on the responsibility? Bluepoint is the best example I would give, but they are busy on another big project, and the guy who made the fan project in the video below is now working on Shenmue III.
Two new tweets from Cedric Biscay of Shibuya Productions regarding the status of Shenmue 3, get hype!
https://twitter.com/CedricBiscay/status/937602788879622144
https://twitter.com/CedricBiscay/status/937618522963812352
images from twitter:
Cedric Biscay :"We are playing the game and it is so cool"
Cedric Biscay: "We have played the latest version of Shenmue 3, it is truly the game we waited for!"
https://twitter.com/CedricBiscay/status/937602788879622144
https://twitter.com/CedricBiscay/status/937618522963812352
images from twitter:
Cedric Biscay :"We are playing the game and it is so cool"
Cedric Biscay: "We have played the latest version of Shenmue 3, it is truly the game we waited for!"
Seeing pictures of Yu Suzuki playing Shenmue III is better than any Kickstarter update I could ask for.
I want one of these badly. I'll have to give eBay a shot, I suppose.Great to see Segas official Twitter promote a newly released Shenmue themed Yokosuka guide book.
Released on the 3rd, ironically. More information can be found here:
http://www.cocoyoko.net/news/shenmue.html
It's annoying because I was in Yokosuka and made a trip to Dobuita earlier this year!
Give it some time. They will be on auction sites before long. I don't disagree with people paying for the actual hard copies of them because they will need to be posted and stuff, but I certainly don't want to see anyone ripped off!!
We do have the pdf format version which you could also search for an online company to print it for you? I haven't looked into it too much but for some reason, I have convinced myself it wouldn't be too difficult.
Apart from that, I am the same. I was there last year so it's just unlucky. If I get back next year, fingers crossed they will still have some.
Not much, but it's something...
So, it looks like no Shenmue HD announcement at PSX or at all this year?
Those photos of Yu and the accompanying tweets from Cedric are just lovely and heart warming, as well as hype inducing. The legend making his triumphant return! Also somewhat amazed the game seems to be in such an advanced, playable state. Development must be going well.
As for that news from Sega Europe, I'd like Shenmue 1 and 2 HD, a new Streets of Rage and a new Jet Set Radio please. Those would be exciting.
As for that news from Sega Europe, I'd like Shenmue 1 and 2 HD, a new Streets of Rage and a new Jet Set Radio please. Those would be exciting.
Honestly Shenmue III still does not seem real to me somehow. I think I will not fully accept it is coming until I am actually in the end credits of the game, haha.
Anyways, what are some specific quirks from past games you guys want to see brought to Shenmue III that might be lost due to being 'outdated'?
For me, I really hope they keep the compartmentalized locations. I really loved how dense everything in the world was and I think a lot of the franchise's charm will be lost if the game is truly open world in the modern sense. To me there is no reason to be able to travel through a whole city when a ton of it would just be empty space you have to trek through constantly, ya know? Plus it would make it so that you could have smaller sections that are aesthetically much more diverse from one another without having to blend them together.
Anyways, what are some specific quirks from past games you guys want to see brought to Shenmue III that might be lost due to being 'outdated'?
For me, I really hope they keep the compartmentalized locations. I really loved how dense everything in the world was and I think a lot of the franchise's charm will be lost if the game is truly open world in the modern sense. To me there is no reason to be able to travel through a whole city when a ton of it would just be empty space you have to trek through constantly, ya know? Plus it would make it so that you could have smaller sections that are aesthetically much more diverse from one another without having to blend them together.
https://twitter.com/SEGA_OFFICIAL/status/937603533750149120
Nothing new, but it's fun seeing Sega progressively acknowledge Shenmue's existence.
Nothing new, but it's fun seeing Sega progressively acknowledge Shenmue's existence.
I'm hesitant to even hope for some of quirks I want the new game to have. I mean, I could certainly list things, but at the same time, we've had so many years to obsess over the first games that I'm worried such quirks would feel shoehorned in and fan servicey. Like, I was always drawn towards the first games somber tone and gloomy look and would love to see that continue as very few games capture that feel even to this day, but for all I know Yu's intention was always to move on from that into more vibrant looking environments.
I sorta have faith the game will retain the mood considering it's still in the same designer's hands.
Yeah the rumor is those shots are from a build of Shenmue III. The R button indicator always fascinated me the most about it, especially as it is way out of position.
When I first heard this I got super emotional, it actually shocked me how perfectly Shenmue this song is.
I do too, especially after they released this:
When I first heard this I got super emotional, it actually shocked me how perfectly Shenmue this song is.
Throw in a new Panzer Dragoon and new Shinobi whilst you're at it. lol. Not happening.
It's cut content from Shenmue II. They talk about it in one of the early Kickstarter interviews with the dev team. Pretty much it was removed as it didn't fit with the pace of disk 4.
What's everybody's favourite tracks,including background music, store music, etc?
I like FREE1,5,15, the music when you open your notebook, tomato convenience store. Just a few. Why Ryu rides the Forklift.
Watching the Japanese VO playthrough on YT. Tom says some things in English.
I like FREE1,5,15, the music when you open your notebook, tomato convenience store. Just a few. Why Ryu rides the Forklift.
Watching the Japanese VO playthrough on YT. Tom says some things in English.
This is going to sound bizarre but one of my favorite songs is Bob's Pizza. I never knew it was a place you could visit until my second playthrough and it's theme was so fun and distinct that it really caught my attention and made me realize every building in the game had it's own track. Completely made my already skyhigh opinion of the game that much higher.
Nightfall's my favorite song from the series outside of the main theme though. Beautiful melancholy track that really hits me on so many personal levels. Enough cannot be said about how the cutscenes are framed when the day to night transition happens either. Also is it just me or is the first part of it included in this remix for Outride A Crisis in one of the Super Hang-On anniversary albums? Of maybe it is the other way around and Nightfall is inspired by it?
Nightfall's my favorite song from the series outside of the main theme though. Beautiful melancholy track that really hits me on so many personal levels. Enough cannot be said about how the cutscenes are framed when the day to night transition happens either. Also is it just me or is the first part of it included in this remix for Outride A Crisis in one of the Super Hang-On anniversary albums? Of maybe it is the other way around and Nightfall is inspired by it?
I love nightfall, I just checked and I somehow don't have it which is weird. I have to go find it now. Great choice :)
Got it!
Got it!
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PSX was pretty much my last hope overall. But with this Tweet, I might wait until Spring to lose hope.
Waves of Morning Hazeis god-tier OST material, hits right in the feels and has been known to bring a tear to my eye.
Other favourites of mine areFREE 1 (bird and dog noises included)/Earth & Sea/Memories of Iwao/Main Menuand yes... thenotepadmusic.
I've said it before on the Dojo and I'll say it again here.
The Guilin soundtrack in II is a spiritual experience.
The Guilin soundtrack in II is a spiritual experience.