Jesus, this makes absolutely no sense. They were talking about the pulling the fire crews out trying to save the building. WTC7 conspiracies are the worst.
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What conspiracy theories you believe(d) in?
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Jesus, this makes absolutely no sense. They were talking about the pulling the fire crews out trying to save the building. WTC7 conspiracies are the worst.
In a recorded interview the leaseholder of wtc7 Larry Silverstein said he talked with the fire chief and they decided to pull the building. You can look it up. Also a reporter Scott Shapiro said Silverstein spoke with his insurance that day about pulling demolishing the building. Silverstein later clarified he meant pull the firefighters from the area. I don't believe any of the other nonsense about 9/11 and I'm open to believing it just fell as a result of fire, but the above seems fishy as hell, that's all.
I think there were later reports though that there were not fire crews actually in the area. Those could be bs though. Why say pull the building then and not pull the fire crews? And has the report on Silverstein inquiring on demolishing it actually been debunked? Did Jeffery Scott Shapiro retract his reporting?
Edit: upon further inquiry, Shapiro article stating that says he was right in the wtc7 area and heard no explosives. Still interesting Silverstein actually inquired on it though.
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This one I believe. The 1930s were such a weird time politically. Liberal democracies looked to be failing in the wake of the Great Depression and both fascism and communism actually did seem like viable alternatives, even in Britain and the United States. Having plutocrats turn to fascism in this environment is the only logical path they thought they had to stem off a communist uprising led by FDR.
The only 9/11 conspiracy theory I find even remotely plausible was that the plane headed toward the White House was shot down, rather than taken down by the brave passengers. While I cannot doubt the passengers planned something, had they succeeded in overpowering the hijackers, they could have easily overwhelmed them and used the shortwave to communicate with the outside world. Not knowing what was going on inside the plane, knowing what had just happened in New York, knowing what happened at the Pentagon and not knowing which enemy was attacking or what their follow up plan was, the cold calculus in terms of lives lost, damage done and danger to the nation as a whole if the White House was destroyed makes the decision to shoot a missile at a passenger jet liner far less unthinkable than otherwise. The phone recordings found afterwards and their cryptic references to a plan of some kind could have then been spun as a much more palatable myth than the horrible reality that someone in the military chain of command made the decision to kill all those people.
I'm not saying I believe this one, but it would not shock me, in 2071, to find out that Dick Cheney or someone else made the call. Given the circumstances, it's hard to say if it would have been the wrong call.
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I don't believe that any would have gotten to our level of technology, or their destruction was so total nothing was left.
Ad Infinitum.
I believe the conspiracy theory about Trump having to alter his note at the Wailing Wall.
https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnnyMcNulty/status/867097456798048256
Also the recent one about him having dentures.
https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnnyMcNulty/status/867097456798048256
Also the recent one about him having dentures.
I still believe that Operation Highjump was really a mission to wipe out a secret Nazi stronghold in the Antarctic after the end of WWII.
That's one I've never heard of, but I always remembered them with the full name so it's not a conspiracy I'd look out for. Collective misremembering is interesting regardless.
I used to be really big on well most if not all of them when I was 16/17. 9/11, JFK, all the fun ones. I was mostly unable to come to terms with the reality of our world and society so finding things that helped explain the world in a way I preferred help cope with that. I was also a kid as well, not a loon anymore at least.
CERN's dimensional gateways, CIA black ops/reptiles, Ancient Astronauts and older civs, missing years in the Christian calendar, body doubles, Von Neumann probes from other galaxies, Vatican vault, all that interests me.
As far as any scientific discovery that changes the heirarchy where religion is no longer top dog as well as any discovery that changes the scientific paradigm as we know, scientists agree to convene as a board to meet before disclosing it to the public, if ever.
Lady Gaga killed her best friend and stole her identity to become famous. Also known as an illuminati blood sacrifice.
i still believe moon landing to be fake, and i'm not hurting or offending anyone by believing that so i'm gonna continue.
None. The Universe and it's associated physics and maths is quite complicated enough without us tiny little nothings on a tiny little nothing of a planet in a tiny little nowhere galaxy being up to anything other than mundane shit. Read Sci Fi if you have a penchant for conspiracy theories - they tell stories of the fantastical and generally tie them up all neat so you can go about your day in peace.
You should watch Operation Avalanche, it's a faux documentary taking place during the 60s about three filmmakers who stumble upon the gov't's need for a moon landing to beat the Russians; And they're filmmakers...so...
That's fact. Educated people are less likely to fall for bullshit and to vote against their own interests.
Alex Jones is a lizard person.
CIA/Crack
Both Kennedy assassinations
The Bilderberg Group to some extent
Both Kennedy assassinations
The Bilderberg Group to some extent
This has nothing to do with aliens, but that the Area 51 base everyone knows about was a real base, but it is now refurbished to be little more than a misdirection that helps take eyes away from real secret bases.
The problem with most conspiracy theories like the moon landing or JFK assassination is that no one is truly that smart to pull this shit off. People aren't villains in a James Bond movie.
...that's what those who are truly smart want you to believe, that no one can be that smart.
Big hole in this is that Smedley Butler would not have been a terrible candidate for a corporate puppet dictator. He was anti-big business and anti-imperialism and extremely vocal about it.
It was literally impossible to fake the moon landing with 1960's technology.
When I was a Fundamentalist Christian, I believed that the scientific community actively covered up evidence for young earth creationism, and created hoaxes to prove evolution and cosmology; all because they wanted to hide the truth that God created the universe, and had some kind of pact with Satan / or were being manipulated by him in some way.
Fuck Ben Stein.
I used to believe in some 9/11 theories. I don't know what I believe now, but you know it's shady in some way when the 9/11 commission itself is not satisfied. So I guess that's one event about which I find the idea of some sort of conspiracy pretty convincing.
i know, people are ignorant on many things, i'm choosing to be ignorant in this teeny tiny irrelevant thing.
honestly i'm kidding, i know it happened, but i always say i don't in conversations :)
When I was a young teenager I was big into UFOs. I used to watch all sorts of crappy YouTube videos and get completely sucked in by them.
And I wouldn't say it's quite 'belief in a conspiracy' but I think it's entirely possible that somebody else was involved in the JFK assassination other than Lee Harvey Oswald. I believe Oswald was the lone gunman but I'm definitely open to the possibility that somebody put him up to it.
And I wouldn't say it's quite 'belief in a conspiracy' but I think it's entirely possible that somebody else was involved in the JFK assassination other than Lee Harvey Oswald. I believe Oswald was the lone gunman but I'm definitely open to the possibility that somebody put him up to it.
I actually agree with this one, the McCanns are pretty suspicious to me.
That was completely debunked a while ago.
A little here:
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/S...t_Service_agent_killed_President_Kennedy.html
And here:
http://jfkfiles.blogspot.com/2013/08/drums-of-conspiracy.html
Oh, that they found Mohammed Atta's passport in the debris of the WTC. That has to bullshit regardless of the reasons.
When you enter time into the equation, the math gets a lot more solid. Humans have been around for about 0.001% of the history of the universe. If the entire history of the universe was one year, then humans would have evolved at about 11:55pm on Dec 31st.
If there was another advanced species out there somewhere, odds are they all died billions of years ago.
Leaving your 3 kids alone, unattended in a foreign country with no lock on the door or security is just really damn odd.
The fact the father claims he 'sensed' someone was hiding behind the door when he went to check on the kids but did nothing is also too hard to believe.
Personally I think there was an accident and they covered it up.
Not necessarily, I don't want to get too graphic but there were lots of things from the plane and on the floors that were directly hit that were blown out of the building and survived surprisingly intact, so it's not impossible one of the terrorists passports could've remained intact and been found.
Why? Incredibly delicate things survive horrific plane crashes all the time. Things like pristine stuffed animals, papers, unbroken glass, etc are always collected.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Aldo_Moro
I'm not sure what to believe, but the story to me is definitely more complex than just "some commies kidnapped and killed him". I'd suggest reading the article, it's actually incredibly interesting.
I'm not sure what to believe, but the story to me is definitely more complex than just "some commies kidnapped and killed him". I'd suggest reading the article, it's actually incredibly interesting.
Literally none, they're all really dumb.
However, I think governments tastelessly cash in on every single tragic event in order to tighten their grip on the populous.
The day following the first van attack in London, the PM is using it as a platform to protest the government's lack of access to our WhatsApp messaging. It's sickening.
And it does lead to a paranoid thinking that from time to time, if society is getting too wayward in the eyes of the government, that letting an attack slip through could be beneficial in terms of using it regain some order. Or even beyond that, to encourage an attack if none seem impending.
I don't believe that has happened in the UK or the US, but in some countries, or eventually? Maybe.
However, I think governments tastelessly cash in on every single tragic event in order to tighten their grip on the populous.
The day following the first van attack in London, the PM is using it as a platform to protest the government's lack of access to our WhatsApp messaging. It's sickening.
And it does lead to a paranoid thinking that from time to time, if society is getting too wayward in the eyes of the government, that letting an attack slip through could be beneficial in terms of using it regain some order. Or even beyond that, to encourage an attack if none seem impending.
I don't believe that has happened in the UK or the US, but in some countries, or eventually? Maybe.
Yep. Furthermore, the reflectors left at the moon landing sites are still there https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment
One other simple reason why it couldn't have been fake were the live broadcasts from the moon which could be received around the world. The Soviets would not have kept quiet about it if they had come from any other location.
Knowing this and still believing the moon landing was faked makes you an idiot.