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The Academy Award Winning Marvel Cinematic Universe
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In time to film something I mean. As Disney has to avoid influencing anything over at Fox and vice versa till everything is signed, approved, and done.
Deadpool is all I can see surviving this. Phoenix and New Mutants are coming, but them other projects dead as hell until further notice.
Maybe they could throw a small trailer together that hints at F4 but doesnt explicitly use any trademarked stuff?
Of course if everything fell apart it would cause a problem but by that point they should know if the deal was going ahead or not.
They cant risk utilizing Fox assets till this is done and approved by the Govt. Things will be as they were before the deal till everything is 100% done.
Thats why i said do something that would be obvious to fans but not actually using any likeness or anything that could legally go against them.
Of course the risk may be too much but im sure there must be some sort of workaround that they could do to avoid legal trouble. Wouldnt have to be the main credits clip but something of a nod.
Disney likes money more than anything else.
As long as Deadpool and R-Rated X-Men make money, they'll keep making them.
Exactly. People thinking they're just going to shelve a property that made a buttload of money is ridiculous.
So lets play a game.
Avengers 1 - Loki (aka Thanos' underling)
Avengers 2 - Ultron
Avengers 3/4 - Thanos (Infinity Gauntlet story/Infinity War story kinda?)
Avengers 5 - ???
Avengers 6 - ???
Avengers 7 - ???
Obviously we don't know what the format is going to be after Phase 3 wraps up, but for now lets assume they do a similar thing: 3 phase arc with everything culminating with the final Avengers movie in Phase 6.
What do you guys see happening here now that F4 and X-Men have come home officially?
First thing's first, I want to see in phase 4:
Fantastic 4 (I'd like for these guys to be the stars of Phase 4. Incorporate them into the MCU with a new, appropriate origin story. Introduce and establish Doom. Kinda like the first Thor with Loki, should act as a stand alone film but also develop the hell out of Doom, because he'll obviously be a recurring character)
Avengers 5 - The Coming of Galactus (Another story I feel like they need to get out of the way sooner than later. We've already explored Cosmic Marvel with all the GOTG and Thanos stuff, so lets get Galactus and Silver Surfer into the picture and get this shit moving)
From there, I really feel like the possibilities are endless. Even though they already kinda sorta adapted elements of it in Thor Ragnarok, I still think we absolutely need to see a real Planet Hulk movie, culminating in Avengers - World War Hulk. The "Hulk is too dangerous" subplot has been there since Avengers 1 in the MCU, and World War Hulk is the logical conclusion to that story. Now we have the full comic Illuminati and everything. Git er done.
And then after that I really have no idea lol
Avengers 1 - Loki (aka Thanos' underling)
Avengers 2 - Ultron
Avengers 3/4 - Thanos (Infinity Gauntlet story/Infinity War story kinda?)
Avengers 5 - ???
Avengers 6 - ???
Avengers 7 - ???
Obviously we don't know what the format is going to be after Phase 3 wraps up, but for now lets assume they do a similar thing: 3 phase arc with everything culminating with the final Avengers movie in Phase 6.
What do you guys see happening here now that F4 and X-Men have come home officially?
First thing's first, I want to see in phase 4:
Fantastic 4 (I'd like for these guys to be the stars of Phase 4. Incorporate them into the MCU with a new, appropriate origin story. Introduce and establish Doom. Kinda like the first Thor with Loki, should act as a stand alone film but also develop the hell out of Doom, because he'll obviously be a recurring character)
Avengers 5 - The Coming of Galactus (Another story I feel like they need to get out of the way sooner than later. We've already explored Cosmic Marvel with all the GOTG and Thanos stuff, so lets get Galactus and Silver Surfer into the picture and get this shit moving)
From there, I really feel like the possibilities are endless. Even though they already kinda sorta adapted elements of it in Thor Ragnarok, I still think we absolutely need to see a real Planet Hulk movie, culminating in Avengers - World War Hulk. The "Hulk is too dangerous" subplot has been there since Avengers 1 in the MCU, and World War Hulk is the logical conclusion to that story. Now we have the full comic Illuminati and everything. Git er done.
And then after that I really have no idea lol
I kinda feel so-so about R-rated Marvel films. There's something weird about taking characters for kids and turning them into adult fare. And I felt that both Logan and Deadpool didn't really benefit from it all that much. Especially the former could have been a very valuable film for teenage audiences.
If the rating is enough of a differentiating factor to make more Marvel movies in total, I'll take it, but eh. I guess the rating system in the US being a mess doesn't help matters either.
If the rating is enough of a differentiating factor to make more Marvel movies in total, I'll take it, but eh. I guess the rating system in the US being a mess doesn't help matters either.
I don't need understand people saying it's smarter to keep the X-Men separate because "Mutants have to have an entire history of being hated or they don't work".
So long as mutants are introduced organically and are still hated by mankind when they are, there's no reason you can't introduce the property to the MCU in a way that's largely faithful to the source material. And there's a couple of ways to do that.
So long as mutants are introduced organically and are still hated by mankind when they are, there's no reason you can't introduce the property to the MCU in a way that's largely faithful to the source material. And there's a couple of ways to do that.
I think Avengers will remain the culmination just because that brand is so god damn powerful. Auto $1b+ movie.
Deadpool benefited because being R-rated was literally the entire gimmick and appeal. They even got away with it being super low budget as a result. I like the idea of Deadpool continuing to have his own R-rated solo films but then having to come to grips with the PG-13 ratings as he crosses over into the other MCU films. Would be true to the character lol
As for Logan, I agree. Didn't need the R-rating at all. You can get away with that violence nowadays with a PG-13... but we'd lose Logan snapping and telling poor little Dafne to SHUT THE FUCK UP >_<
Deadpool benefitted greatly from going off the beaten path in terms of structure and characterization but there wasn't anything that you couldn't have gotten around with a PG-13 rating. The R-rated elements are the least interesting to me but I guess people got to see Morena Baccarin's boobs and Ryan Reynold's ass.
It's literally R-rated because of a few too many "fucks" and a pegging scene. That's all that stands between that movie and a PG-13 rating.
I feel like the only thing this is going to affect is a post-credit scene in Avengers 4 and more cosmic characters in Captain Marvel, in particular certain named Skrulls that Fox had the rights to.
Kang comes next. Plot is that he wants to conquer the past because the past fucked by letting Galactus live.
Set up being that Reed and the ff will fight the avengers to protect Galactus due to him being a cosmic necessity.
It's happening. Fuck me.
I wonder how they'll introduce the X-men. Something something Thanos messing around with the stones altered the reality/universe perhaps? Fantastic four is pretty easy: they've been in cryosleep for decades in the space and the destruction cause by Thanos made their ship lose its course and landed somewhere. This could be showed in a post credit scene for GotG3.
Oh man so many possibilities.
I wonder how they'll introduce the X-men. Something something Thanos messing around with the stones altered the reality/universe perhaps? Fantastic four is pretty easy: they've been in cryosleep for decades in the space and the destruction cause by Thanos made their ship lose its course and landed somewhere. This could be showed in a post credit scene for GotG3.
Oh man so many possibilities.
Happens right when it seems time for a good number of actors to make their exit....
Marvel Studios have some serious luck or they're really good at prep time.
Marvel Studios have some serious luck or they're really good at prep time.
I really don't want another cosmic threat for the next big Avengers event. I'd much rather either have a focus on Doom as a major earth-based villain, or have a team/group of villains. We've never seen that in a superhero movie before, a team of heroes needing to outmaneuver and defeat a team of their villains.
At the very least, Doom and Magneto have to be recurring, and developed beyond just being villains to fight. Loki and Zemo are still around. Killmonger, if he isn't killed. Maybe the actual Mandarin? Who else?
maybe a topic title change to "Everything's Back"?
If anything, I hope that if Agents of Shield makes it past this season (say, onto a Disney Streaming service), and the ability to use some lower tier level Mutant/FF characters/plots becomes available. That would be great. Or maybe even Netflix-type shows.
On the Movie side, yeah, I feel like Doom needs to be a Phase 4 thing, though if Captain Marvel is planned on being somewhat a Phase 4 starter, maybe now with all the Skrulls open to use (SuperSkrull), maybe a more cosmic "villain" for P4. Maybe Galactus, or Annihilus?
If anything, I hope that if Agents of Shield makes it past this season (say, onto a Disney Streaming service), and the ability to use some lower tier level Mutant/FF characters/plots becomes available. That would be great. Or maybe even Netflix-type shows.
On the Movie side, yeah, I feel like Doom needs to be a Phase 4 thing, though if Captain Marvel is planned on being somewhat a Phase 4 starter, maybe now with all the Skrulls open to use (SuperSkrull), maybe a more cosmic "villain" for P4. Maybe Galactus, or Annihilus?
Captain Marvel has saved the day! Finally, a powerful woman superhero has shown up on Earth to save the world.
The movie ends with a celebratory parade. Carol is present and takes selfies and shakes hands with young girls from around the country who have come to meet their new hero.
But then she shakes hands with one young girl... and collapses.
CAPTAIN MARVEL WILL RETURN.... IN THE UNCANNY X-MEN
Sabretooth and Emma Frost for the mutants
Mordo, Dormammu, Nightmare and Mephisto on the magical side
Thor could delve deeper into other pantheons and bring Ares and Hercules into the mix
Justin Hammer is still kicking
and so on
You assholes better not be celebrating this UNPRECEDENTED ANTI-LIFE MONOPOLY in this thread
I'M WATCHING YOU SICK APATHETIC NERDS
I'M WATCHING YOU SICK APATHETIC NERDS
Yeah. She gets her powers from Ms. Marvel (now Captain Marvel).
None of them will want to leave now lol.
I hate the very idea of a "team of villains."
But maybe execution will be much better than what I am imagining.
Red Skull needs to be brought back.
Wait, was this always canon? If so, holy shit I'm beyond surprised right now. Never knew my girl Rogue got her powers from Ms. Marvel.
It happened in Avengers Annual #10 way back in 1981. Written by Chris Claremont himself.
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I'm kinda hoping that the Deadpool 2 after credits tag is Hugh Jackman (off screen) yelling out to Wade "Are you sure this is gonna work?" Wade keeps egging him on and saying "yes, of course" Hugh walks into frame and he's wearing a busted ass yellow/blue Wolverine outfit that looks so shitty and home made, just for Deadpool to look at the camera and go, "There, you fanboys happy now?"
I don't want to see an awesome Wolverine outfit just in one Easter egg scene knowing that we'll never see it again. I like the idea of "giving the fans what they want", but in a totally funny and dumb way.
I don't want to see an awesome Wolverine outfit just in one Easter egg scene knowing that we'll never see it again. I like the idea of "giving the fans what they want", but in a totally funny and dumb way.
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