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Sygma

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
954
Yeah I'm just letting my mind get ahead of myself.

Exactly :) you re all new to this stuff, go at it one step at a time. It's great that you re overcoming your anxiety and whatnot, try not creating some now ! The desire of control is usually a nefarious aspect in a relation

It won't be easy but its worth it, I promise. By simply enjoying a person you really like, in the moment, and matching desires without putting any kind of pressure ... it ll be much easier, natural and comfortable for you both (actually you three) to deal with it all

Dating is not necessarily the main road to a committed relationship, it's above all learning to relate, understand and create healthy boundaries. Its discovering aspects of yourself you thought you'd be unable to pull off. At times, even with a simple sexual friendship, you can still get something worthwile out of it in terms of meaning. You can learn how to end it without pain too, in more mature ways. Take it easy !
 
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gaiages

Member
Oct 25, 2017
488
Florida
Sorry for I'm repeating myself but I think I got buried on the last page. I'm currently dating two people, I have a 4th and 3rd date set up respectively for them. Since I've never dated more than one person at a time, I'm a little uncertain how to handle it. The first person, I've been seeing for 3 weeks and the second, only a week. No talk of exclusivity has been made between either one but I feel like I need to talk about it before going on more and more dates with them. I just don't know how I should talk about it. Like, I don't think telling them I'm also dating someone else is the tactful thing to say. With the first person, she did briefly mention she was single and looking to date and I told her while I wasn't looking to get into something serious immediately, I was open to it. We didn't really specifically say we were dating other people though, since I figured that was assumed. But I don't think I should just assume? I mainly just want to avoid hurting anyone.

The assumption is made that you're not exclusive, and are possibly dating other people, until you have the exclusivity talk. Nothing to really bring up, more bad is likely to come from an awkward conversation like that than good.
 

Oni

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
311
I usually move the conversation to whatsapp within 3 messages

Then I usually ask a little about their interests, generic shit, then ask them for a date, within perhaps 20 messages.

Sometimes I let the conversation drag and in those cases the women usually either case me out, or just stop messaging back. I only let the conversation drag if I'm not that interested in dating, usually because I don't have enough time / have other dates lined up.

Ask them out within like 10 messages, if you can.
Don't go to a movie for your first date. Terrible idea. Meet up for coffee or a drink, so you can chat in person casually, and can escape easily if you're not enjoying yourself. Maybe then you suggest grabbing something to eat, or a movie, if you two hit it off.

I asked her out on the date but she'd already made plans to see the movie with family when she goes back home to Spain for Christmas (she leaves Tuesday), so we said we'd just do something else when she gets back. That said I can see myself losing interest with us doing the pen pal thing for the next few weeks now but we'll see..

I kind of agree on the movie thing and defo would have gone to a bar or a restaurant after. There are tonnes close to the cinema I planned to go to.

Within 3 messages I'm not even sure I want the persons number lol. 10 messages is pushing it even.
 

SPRidley

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,238
This is my first time writting on the dating thread, I lurked before a little on the thread on neogaf and here.
Sorry for the long text in advance.
So, a few weeks ago my younger sister broke up with her boyfriend, she was really depresses so to entertain her and so tat she didnt feel alone she thought it could be a good idea to make a tinder for me so she didnt think about the other guy and help to catch someone.
Finally I entered, made a profile withsome photos, and started swiping with her. She got bored at how slow I was (always tried to read the girls bio) and I started to use thr app alone.
The first week and a half nothing was matched, my sister on, the other hand, opened one also for her just for funsies, and had a bunch of matches in minutes, so that depressed me a little, started reading stuff on the net of how people pass months without matches and things like that, and was starting to see the same repeat girls so the pool in my city for my year range didnt seem that big (1000000 pop city in Spain).
Added a few more photos, and started getting matches. Some hi, replies, what you liked and not much more. I asked a girl out after some days of messaging and she told me she was super busy and didnt had time. Ok, so thats out. Then I started to get more matches and started chatting with 2 girls. The first one was from Colombia and she was a little bit on the thic side (like my last girlfriend) but she was cute in some of the photos and interesting so why not. At the same time I started to talk with another girl, and this one was gorgeous and in my head completely out of my league, but she kept chatting with me, she was also a north american girl (seems im habing shit luck with people born or living here lol) My sister told me to keep contact with both and never close any doors, but this is my first time dating like this (every girlfriend I had was because I met them as firiends IRL and the things just happened naturaly).

So I told the colombian girl if she wanted to go out 2 weeks ago and she told me yes. We went to a bar and talked and bit it off pretty well but nothing more happened as she had to go to a friends dinner. She did tell me if I wanted a second date and I said yes, the problem, i was going to visit my grandparents for a week and I couldnt go out again till the week after (so this one), she told me no problem and we started talkign through whatsapp.
So before going out of town I asked the north american girl out and she told me yes also, I told her I could only on monday and she didnt have a problem. Went to a historical part of town, dring some beer and we talked and talked. Then we had some tapas and wine for dinner and went walking back to where she stayed (the bus to my home is 2 streets from there so it was perfect). The date was incredibly amazing but the goodbye was a little akward as it seems maybe she was waiting something but I was scared shitless of fucking up.
When I was on the bust stop I sent her a whatsapp telling her I had a great night, and she replied that same and that really liked our conversations even when she a really picky conversanioalist.
We kept contact sending fun things so as to not cut the convos completely, but didnt want to send her a lot as I didntwant to show her i was desperate or anything like that.

While I enjoyed my time with the colombian girl I really loved my time with the north american one. Felt she was super smart, and that we hit each other incredibly well, talking about deep stuff, and this may sound superficial but she is absolutely gorgeous, i've never been with such a good looking girl in all my 30 years of life lol.

So finally what happened this week and were dating era can help me.

After coming back from out of town I sent both messages of getting second dates with them. The colombian girl told me she could on wednesday and the north american girl told me she was busy this week (this is when I thought I lost her) but asked if she was available on the weekend and she told me that would be perfect, saturday or sunday and that she wanted to visit a musuem (at the end we chose saturday as the museum closes later).
Yesterday I went out with the colombian girl, went to a park she really likes and it all went really well, maybe too well. We went to a bar and we make out there. We had to cut the night short as she had classes in the morning. I actually didnt want to go that fast but it all occured naturaly.
As I say she is a fun girl to be with and if the other girl wasnt in the card I would probably would had another date with her this weekend.
Today I sent a message of how was the week going to the north american girl and she told me she had been really busy but was glad weekend was coming soon and we could see each other again.

And crap, now im feeling like shit. Ive never been this type of person but I feel like im playing with both. My sister says what im doing is the normal thing to do and I shouldnt feel like that.
My biggest problem here is that I enjoy being with both but much more with the north american girl and im hopung for saturdays date to be great (made some fun plans after the museum that she told me today they sound super fun).
The thing is I dont know how saturday's date is going to go, because im a ngative person for this things and im always thinking she is too good for me and maybe only looking for friendship, but at the same time i dont want to make the wait really long with her because I dont want to hurt the colombian girl that clearly wants to go faster.

How should I tackle saturday's date? This is my first time at this kind of thing so I feel im doing something wrong.
 

Addie

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,740
DFW
Don't do the pen pal thing. Wish her happy holidays and happy new year and follow up. Spend time with your friends and family like she's doing with hers.

Also, a movie is a TERRIBLE first date.

It's super awkward to meet up with someone and have a movie planned - you're watching a movie instead of actually meeting someone.

Finally, no, 10 messages isn't pushing it. That's a you thing; it's not reflective of online dating culture. You're in the minority, albeit a non-trivial one (and I get wanting to exchange a few before you meet up).
 

Oni

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
311
Don't do the pen pal thing. Wish her happy holidays and happy new year and follow up. Spend time with your friends and family like she's doing with hers.

Also, a movie is a TERRIBLE first date.

It's super awkward to meet up with someone and have a movie planned - you're watching a movie instead of actually meeting someone.

Finally, no, 10 messages isn't pushing it. That's a you thing; it's not reflective of online dating culture. You're in the minority, albeit a non-trivial one (and I get wanting to exchange a few before you meet up).

Hmm... yeah I'll probably do just that on the day she leaves. But if she messages me after that I won't blank her.

Yeah it's prob not a great first date, but its not so bad if you mitigate it with drinks/food after imo.

Lol yeah it might just be me. But I have just said "Add me on snapchat" as a first message a few times. Bit more precious with my number though :P
 
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Nov 17, 2017
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It won't be easy but its worth it, I promise. By simply enjoying a person you really like, in the moment, and matching desires without putting any kind of pressure ... it ll be much easier, natural and comfortable for you both (actually you three) to deal with it all
Man, that totally makes sense for me. I gotta stop thinking about future steps and just enjoy their company, cross bridges when they come and all that.


The assumption is made that you're not exclusive, and are possibly dating other people, until you have the exclusivity talk. Nothing to really bring up, more bad is likely to come from an awkward conversation like that than good.
Thanks, I feel a lot better about this now.


Hmm... yeah I'll probably do just that on the day she leaves. But if she messages me after that I won't blank her.

Yeah it's prob not a great first date, but its not so bad if you mitigate it with drinks/food after imo.

Lol yeah it might just be me. But I have just said "Add me on snapchat" as a first message a few times. Bit more precious with my number though :P
I'm curious, why are you apprehensive about getting a number until messaging the person a lot? Is it a security/safety thing? I can understand if you're worried about meeting up with a stranger for that reason.

Personally, I want to get off the app and meet them ASAP or at least set up that meeting ASAP. With the girl I'm dating off tinder right now, I asked for her number after 3 messages from each of us, and then asked her out after 3 more texts between us. It happened within 24 hours and it was after taking that advice from this thread to speed up that part of the interaction. The way I see it, she's on this dating app probably getting messages from a bunch of other guys just like you. The more I drag my feet just messaging her, the more time there is for other guys asking her out and actually going on dates with her. For me, I'm just gonna try and jump ahead of the crowd and meet in person where I can leave an actual impression. Now I'm this tangible real person instead of text on her phone and some pictures. Plus I'm going after what I want and not wasting any time if she doesn't want to meet me.

Also I agree that movie dates as a first date are really bad. Like Addie said, you're trying to meet someone. The "event" should be meeting someone, not going to see a movie. Not saying it can't work well but I feel like you'd have to get lucky. Especially when it comes to meeting someone for the first time, I think you want to do something very simple and non-committal like coffee or drinks. For both parties, there's no obligation to stay past finishing your drink. If the person turns out to be awful you can politely leave and if they turn out great, you can stick around or even move the date somewhere else. With a movie, you're already committing like 2 hours to this stranger? And that's before you even get to know them. In this case, drinks/food might not mitigate the movie... not even sure why I'd want to have to mitigate anything on a first date. Isn't that like admitting the movie is a bad idea? Drinks/food is just adding more time this person has to commit to someone they don't know. That's my two cents at least.
 

Oni

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
311
I'm curious, why are you apprehensive about getting a number until messaging the person a lot? Is it a security/safety thing? I can understand if you're worried about meeting up with a stranger for that reason.

Personally, I want to get off the app and meet them ASAP or at least set up that meeting ASAP. With the girl I'm dating off tinder right now, I asked for her number after 3 messages from each of us, and then asked her out after 3 more texts between us. It happened within 24 hours and it was after taking that advice from this thread to speed up that part of the interaction. The way I see it, she's on this dating app probably getting messages from a bunch of other guys just like you. The more I drag my feet just messaging her, the more time there is for other guys asking her out and actually going on dates with her. For me, I'm just gonna try and jump ahead of the crowd and meet in person where I can leave an actual impression. Now I'm this tangible real person instead of text on her phone and some pictures. Plus I'm going after what I want and not wasting any time if she doesn't want to meet me.

Also I agree that movie dates as a first date are really bad. Like Addie said, you're trying to meet someone. The "event" should be meeting someone, not going to see a movie. Not saying it can't work well but I feel like you'd have to get lucky. Especially when it comes to meeting someone for the first time, I think you want to do something very simple and non-committal like coffee or drinks. For both parties, there's no obligation to stay past finishing your drink. If the person turns out to be awful you can politely leave and if they turn out great, you can stick around or even move the date somewhere else. With a movie, you're already committing like 2 hours to this stranger? And that's before you even get to know them. In this case, drinks/food might not mitigate the movie... not even sure why I'd want to have to mitigate anything on a first date. Isn't that like admitting the movie is a bad idea? Drinks/food is just adding more time this person has to commit to someone they don't know. That's my two cents at least.

Yeah it's sort of a security/ privacy thing. Which is why I'm happy for a girl to just add me on snapchat from the jump. Also asking too soon can make you come off as a bit of creep imo, and if I'm apprehensive as a dude I imagine women are 10x more so.

Yeah the movie thing isn't something I'd normally go with but I generally like to meet someone in person within 1-2 weeks (which I think is something most of you agree with) and couldn't think of anything else/thought star wars was good timing. We love most of the same music artists so I thought a concert would be cool but there aren't any on until well into the new year
 

Messofanego

Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,209
UK
This is my first time writting on the dating thread, I lurked before a little on the thread on neogaf and here.
Sorry for the long text in advance.
So, a few weeks ago my younger sister broke up with her boyfriend, she was really depresses so to entertain her and so tat she didnt feel alone she thought it could be a good idea to make a tinder for me so she didnt think about the other guy and help to catch someone.
Finally I entered, made a profile withsome photos, and started swiping with her. She got bored at how slow I was (always tried to read the girls bio) and I started to use thr app alone.
The first week and a half nothing was matched, my sister on, the other hand, opened one also for her just for funsies, and had a bunch of matches in minutes, so that depressed me a little, started reading stuff on the net of how people pass months without matches and things like that, and was starting to see the same repeat girls so the pool in my city for my year range didnt seem that big (1000000 pop city in Spain).
Added a few more photos, and started getting matches. Some hi, replies, what you liked and not much more. I asked a girl out after some days of messaging and she told me she was super busy and didnt had time. Ok, so thats out. Then I started to get more matches and started chatting with 2 girls. The first one was from Colombia and she was a little bit on the thic side (like my last girlfriend) but she was cute in some of the photos and interesting so why not. At the same time I started to talk with another girl, and this one was gorgeous and in my head completely out of my league, but she kept chatting with me, she was also a north american girl (seems im habing shit luck with people born or living here lol) My sister told me to keep contact with both and never close any doors, but this is my first time dating like this (every girlfriend I had was because I met them as firiends IRL and the things just happened naturaly).

So I told the colombian girl if she wanted to go out 2 weeks ago and she told me yes. We went to a bar and talked and bit it off pretty well but nothing more happened as she had to go to a friends dinner. She did tell me if I wanted a second date and I said yes, the problem, i was going to visit my grandparents for a week and I couldnt go out again till the week after (so this one), she told me no problem and we started talkign through whatsapp.
So before going out of town I asked the north american girl out and she told me yes also, I told her I could only on monday and she didnt have a problem. Went to a historical part of town, dring some beer and we talked and talked. Then we had some tapas and wine for dinner and went walking back to where she stayed (the bus to my home is 2 streets from there so it was perfect). The date was incredibly amazing but the goodbye was a little akward as it seems maybe she was waiting something but I was scared shitless of fucking up.
When I was on the bust stop I sent her a whatsapp telling her I had a great night, and she replied that same and that really liked our conversations even when she a really picky conversanioalist.
We kept contact sending fun things so as to not cut the convos completely, but didnt want to send her a lot as I didntwant to show her i was desperate or anything like that.

While I enjoyed my time with the colombian girl I really loved my time with the north american one. Felt she was super smart, and that we hit each other incredibly well, talking about deep stuff, and this may sound superficial but she is absolutely gorgeous, i've never been with such a good looking girl in all my 30 years of life lol.

So finally what happened this week and were dating era can help me.

After coming back from out of town I sent both messages of getting second dates with them. The colombian girl told me she could on wednesday and the north american girl told me she was busy this week (this is when I thought I lost her) but asked if she was available on the weekend and she told me that would be perfect, saturday or sunday and that she wanted to visit a musuem (at the end we chose saturday as the museum closes later).
Yesterday I went out with the colombian girl, went to a park she really likes and it all went really well, maybe too well. We went to a bar and we make out there. We had to cut the night short as she had classes in the morning. I actually didnt want to go that fast but it all occured naturaly.
As I say she is a fun girl to be with and if the other girl wasnt in the card I would probably would had another date with her this weekend.
Today I sent a message of how was the week going to the north american girl and she told me she had been really busy but was glad weekend was coming soon and we could see each other again.

And crap, now im feeling like shit. Ive never been this type of person but I feel like im playing with both. My sister says what im doing is the normal thing to do and I shouldnt feel like that.
My biggest problem here is that I enjoy being with both but much more with the north american girl and im hopung for saturdays date to be great (made some fun plans after the museum that she told me today they sound super fun).
The thing is I dont know how saturday's date is going to go, because im a ngative person for this things and im always thinking she is too good for me and maybe only looking for friendship, but at the same time i dont want to make the wait really long with her because I dont want to hurt the colombian girl that clearly wants to go faster.

How should I tackle saturday's date? This is my first time at this kind of thing so I feel im doing something wrong.
Your sister is right, going on dates with multiple people is normal now. You've gone on just a few dates, nothing seems official between the two girls. Just see where it goes, and up your self-esteem. Get rid of this "she's out of my league mindset", it's superficial and shouldn't exist.
 

Sygma

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
954
With the girl I'm dating off tinder right now, I asked for her number after 3 messages from each of us, and then asked her out after 3 more texts between us. It happened within 24 hours and it was after taking that advice from this thread to speed up that part of the interaction. The way I see it, she's on this dating app probably getting messages from a bunch of other guys just like you. The more I drag my feet just messaging her, the more time there is for other guys asking her out and actually going on dates with her.

Exactly ! gotta stand out
 

Sygma

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
954
And crap, now im feeling like shit. Ive never been this type of person but I feel like im playing with both. My sister says what im doing is the normal thing to do and I shouldnt feel like that.
My biggest problem here is that I enjoy being with both but much more with the north american girl and im hopung for saturdays date to be great (made some fun plans after the museum that she told me today they sound super fun).
The thing is I dont know how saturday's date is going to go, because im a ngative person for this things and im always thinking she is too good for me and maybe only looking for friendship, but at the same time i dont want to make the wait really long with her because I dont want to hurt the colombian girl that clearly wants to go faster.

How should I tackle saturday's date? This is my first time at this kind of thing so I feel im doing something wrong.

Simply enjoy life man. you have all the time in the world, its useless to worry. You're hearing these pesky thoughts in your head ? shut them down

To me it seems like you enjoy the columbian girl because she's fun being around, while you're REALLY attracted to the other girl. You also had only two dates with the columbian right ? its not like she's your girlfriend yet or whatever.

Relax. Wanting sex =/= falling in love, put some of that pressure off. She's just comfortable with you and don't mind getting it down. As it stands you re interesting in the eyes of two ladies, for now keep dating them. If the columbian is pushing things too fast for your liking, then events will happen naturally. Maybe you're more comfortable with the north american one

Btw she totally wanted you to kiss her, if you didn't do it. Or you know, crashing at her / your place to make out a bit
 

Alek

Games User Researcher
Verified
Oct 28, 2017
8,474
Was due to meet the girl I've been dating today, and she seemed keen to meet up but then changed her mind. She said she's in a bad mood, still on her period, and just wants to go to sleep. She said she'd still come out if it'd upset me that she didn't - I said it was no big deal and we rearranged.

She said she can do tomorrow instead, and encouraged that option by saying that if we do tomorrow, she can stay with me for the whole weekend. In general I think she seems pretty keen, and her lack of enthusiasm to hang out today was just generally feeling under the weather.

Also, it's interesting how women speak about their periods. Of course, it doesn't bother me at all, but many of the women I speak to are reluctant to talk about it, and sometimes seem to think guys will find it disgusting. This girl decided she thought she could talk about it openly, because she knows I was raised in an all-female household and would likely understand.

I asked her out on the date but she'd already made plans to see the movie with family when she goes back home to Spain for Christmas (she leaves Tuesday), so we said we'd just do something else when she gets back. That said I can see myself losing interest with us doing the pen pal thing for the next few weeks now but we'll see..

I kind of agree on the movie thing and defo would have gone to a bar or a restaurant after. There are tonnes close to the cinema I planned to go to.

Within 3 messages I'm not even sure I want the persons number lol. 10 messages is pushing it even.

On whatsapp I can get to know them a lot better than on tinder and it also gives me an indication of whether they'd actually be interested in talking to me. People on tinder just stop replying very easily, because you have them within an app where they're bombarded with competition, etc. The way I see it, you want to get them out of that environment as soon as possible. 3 messages isn't a hard rule though.

It's not really about wanting their number, it's about wanting them to focus their attention on you, somewhat, so that you have better odds of even getting to know them.
 
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Sygma

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
954
Periods can be more than just "disgusting" , some dudes are legit dismissing their gals because "they re on their periods so whatever". Its extremely dismissive to be honest, so I can understand that she wasn't so keen on sharing the info
 
Nov 17, 2017
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Yeah it's sort of a security/ privacy thing. Which is why I'm happy for a girl to just add me on snapchat from the jump. Also asking too soon can make you come off as a bit of creep imo, and if I'm apprehensive as a dude I imagine women are 10x more so.
Yeah ok, I get if you want to feel more secure in your privacy with strangers.

However, I don't see how asking sooner than later for a number can make you look like a creep. I think you come off as a creep if you're a creep. Doesn't matter if you ask her out in 2 messages or two weeks if you're creepy about it. Being clear with your intentions and going after what you want doesn't have to be creepy.
 

Alek

Games User Researcher
Verified
Oct 28, 2017
8,474
Periods can be more than just "disgusting" , some dudes are legit dismissing their gals because "they re on their periods so whatever". Its extremely dismissive to be honest, so I can understand that she wasn't so keen on sharing the info

Never bothered me. Ex's always talked to me about what was going on, how they felt, etc. Probably is due to what she said, the way I've been raised by women means I don't think of that type of thing in the same way. It's not like I asked for the info either, she volunteered it, I guess she felt comfortable doing so with me.

It reminds me of that Ted talk you (or someone else) posted earlier. 'A call to men' or whatever it was. I've never had an upbringing that really enables me to relate to anything that guy was saying.
 
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Sygma

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
954
Never bothered me. Ex's always talked to me about what was going on, how they felt, etc. Probably is due to what she said, the way I've been raised by women means I don't think of that type of thing in the same way. It's not like I asked for the info either, she volunteered it, I guess she felt comfortable doing so with me.

It reminds me of that Ted talk you (or someone else) posted earlier. 'A call to men' or whatever it was. I've never had an upbringing that really enables me to relate to anything that guy was saying.

Yeah I did post that. It wasn't about the story of the guy, much more about the perception of manhood and expectations regarding that which is very very common


And about the periods, well I was just saying something about this :
it's interesting how women speak about their periods. Of course, it doesn't bother me at all, but many of the women I speak to are reluctant to talk about it

It's not because it doesn't bother you that they won't feel embarassed
 

Alek

Games User Researcher
Verified
Oct 28, 2017
8,474
Yeah I did post that. It wasn't about the story of the guy, much more about the perception of manhood and expectations regarding that which is very very common


And about the periods, well I was just saying something about this :

It's not because it doesn't bother you that they won't feel embarassed

I get that, but it didn't seem like she felt embarrassed. I also think how the guy reacts to it, is a big reason why women don't disclose. A lot of women that I've been with have said that they usually don't talk about it with guys, because they know that guys don't like it. I don't think many women are embarrassed by it, at least not more so than they are worried about how guys will react, and if they are, having a guy that's happy to talk about it only helps alleviate that. In this case, the girl explicitly noted that my background with an all-female household, and mostly female friends, made her more comfortable talking about it with me.

My ex's didn't feel embarrassed talking about their periods with me either. In general I've always made an effort to be understanding, and welcome whatever they want to disclose. I always imagined that helps make me closer to my partner - making them feel more comfortable with me as a whole.

And, I know it wasn't about the story of the guy, but what I mean is, by being raised by women I've never really had much awareness of that perception of manhood. He talks quite a lot about it in the talk, but I think a lot of it is taught by fathers. I think not having had my father around has its advantages sometimes, as I don't doubt that those expectations, the idea that men don't cry, the idea that men should control women, etc would have been instilled into me, by him.

My mother used to call me the 'man of the house' when I was young, but I must admit I never really understood what that meant.
 
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SPRidley

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,238
Your sister is right, going on dates with multiple people is normal now. You've gone on just a few dates, nothing seems official between the two girls. Just see where it goes, and up your self-esteem. Get rid of this "she's out of my league mindset", it's superficial and shouldn't exist.
Simply enjoy life man. you have all the time in the world, its useless to worry. You're hearing these pesky thoughts in your head ? shut them down

To me it seems like you enjoy the columbian girl because she's fun being around, while you're REALLY attracted to the other girl. You also had only two dates with the columbian right ? its not like she's your girlfriend yet or whatever.

Relax. Wanting sex =/= falling in love, put some of that pressure off. She's just comfortable with you and don't mind getting it down. As it stands you re interesting in the eyes of two ladies, for now keep dating them. If the columbian is pushing things too fast for your liking, then events will happen naturally. Maybe you're more comfortable with the north american one

Btw she totally wanted you to kiss her, if you didn't do it. Or you know, crashing at her / your place to make out a bit

Thanks guys, really helpful :D
I know I should say things like "out of my league" or whastever, but I just always felt like the normal guy, not ugly, not fancy either, and nver been the one who was apporched to during parties when i was younger.

About the attraction between the two girls I think you are totally right, i have a lot of fun with the colombian girl, but, and maybe this is stupid as it was just the first date, the way I connected with the north american one was completely different, lots of our talking were not even about fun things, but I was just at ease talking with her in a more in depth way, and i feel she can open me in aspects I was always closed to, by learning from her likes and experimentation, while with other girls (and girlfriends i had) it was sometimes more of a roadblock. I dunno how to explain it better.
And im horrible at those types of bye decissions it seems, I thought about the kissing being a possibilty after being at the bust stop instead of it happening during the akward moment. I will try to be more alert when that happnes on saturday. Will tell you how it went.
 

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Thanks guys, really helpful :D
I know I should say things like "out of my league" or whastever, but I just always felt like the normal guy, not ugly, not fancy either, and nver been the one who was apporched to during parties when i was younger.

About the attraction between the two girls I think you are totally right, i have a lot of fun with the colombian girl, but, and maybe this is stupid as it was just the first date, the way I connected with the north american one was completely different, lots of our talking were not even about fun things, but I was just at ease talking with her in a more in depth way, and i feel she can open me in aspects I was always closed to, by learning from her likes and experimentation, while with other girls (and girlfriends i had) it was sometimes more of a roadblock. I dunno how to explain it better.
And im horrible at those types of bye decissions it seems, I thought about the kissing being a possibilty after being at the bust stop instead of it happening during the akward moment. I will try to be more alert when that happnes on saturday. Will tell you how it went.

Enjoy :)
 

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I agree with this, especially that movies are bad first dates because you can't talk and get to know each other and what if the movie is bad?

I think the movie being bad is the least of your concerns really. Movies are bad first dates because you can't really talk or get to know them. If anything, you can laugh and talk over a bad movie. You can't do that if they're engrossed in a great movie.

Not that I advocate talking at the cinema - afterwards is ideal.
 

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"and that we hit each other incredibly well"

Sorry, couldn't help but laugh at that.

Tinder is a weird spiral hell hole for guys and girls but good can come of it. The best advice, like with anything, is to not sweat it and not stress about it.

My general advice is REL - Relate, Escalate, Lock in.

1. Open with something that Relates to the person (unless they've got a ridiculously bare bio, which is common, in which case general open is ok).

2. Quickly (within 5-15 exchanges) try to Escalate it past smalltalk- ascertain what they're looking for on tinder or go to a flirty place if it feels right/comes natural.

3. then Lock it in - ask them out, if they wanna meet, etc.

But always - always always always - don't take it too serious and don't sweat lapsing conversations
 

afroguy10

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Well, downloaded and made accounts on both Zoosk and OkCupid. Still stopping myself on striking up a conversation with a match.

Just do it man, take the plunge, read bios, pick out something that you can strike up a conversation over and go for it, you're not gonna hear from every girl you message and you might hear from them for a bit before they go quiet. In those situations just learn from it, take it in your stride and move on. You'll find someone who is interested in talking with and dating you.

Any other dating apps you would recommend other than Zoosk?

Its entirely location based, OkCupid and Bumble are pretty sparse for me but Tinder and Plenty of Fish are busy. Just try different ones, there's Tinder, PoF, OKC, Bumble, Coffee Meets Bagel and a ton more so try some out and see how you get on.
 

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Oh I completely didn't post about my date last week: I got talking to a girl on OkCupid and asked her out to coffee. Later revised it to dinner since we were both hungry. Found out she's a lot like me, but there wasn't enough chemistry... and she was actually younger than she indicated on her profile.

Thought about it for a few days, then messaged her back that it wasn't going to work. We both handled it well, and at least it got me out of the house for an evening.
 

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Any of you guys have period sex with your girl? It might be my first time today
It's fine with me. Just lay down a towel or be prepared to wash sheets. It's absolutely a non-issue (for me), but it makes some girls feel unsexy and, of course, suffer physical pain. Anyway, don't sweat it.
 
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My general advice is REL - Relate, Escalate, Lock in.

1. Open with something that Relates to the person (unless they've got a ridiculously bare bio, which is common, in which case general open is ok).

2. Quickly (within 5-15 exchanges) try to Escalate it past smalltalk- ascertain what they're looking for on tinder or go to a flirty place if it feels right/comes natural.

3. then Lock it in - ask them out, if they wanna meet, etc.

But always - always always always - don't take it too serious and don't sweat lapsing conversations

Legit great advice. All my best dates come from matches like this.
 

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I get that, but it didn't seem like she felt embarrassed. I also think how the guy reacts to it, is a big reason why women don't disclose.

Yeah, until we know how a guy is gonna react most women tend to avoid talking about it. Some guys react really horribly and are extremely repulsed by periods. Probably better to mention your period sooner rather than later to weed out those dudes.
 
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Yeah, until we know how a guy is gonna react most women tend to avoid talking about it. Some guys react really horribly and are extremely repulsed by periods. Probably better to mention your period sooner rather than later to weed out those dudes.

Id rather know sooner so that I know there's no chance for sex that day. I'll choose to date another girl.
 

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Also, it's interesting how women speak about their periods. Of course, it doesn't bother me at all, but many of the women I speak to are reluctant to talk about it, and sometimes seem to think guys will find it disgusting. This girl decided she thought she could talk about it openly, because she knows I was raised in an all-female household and would likely understand.

Yeah, men are really stupid about periods. One of my exes was raised by a single mother, and he was so surprisingly dumb and grossed out by periods that I was like :/ My current bf is more understanding, although he was raised in a more... er... gender balanced household? Apparently his sister had a lot of medical problems involving her cycles so he's pretty empathetic to the struggle.

Id rather know sooner so that I know there's no chance for sex that day. I'll choose to date another girl.

I think Potater was responding to Chono's general comments on periods, not particularly the period sex.

Also it might be because I just woke up but that last sentence makes it sound like you won't go on a date with a girl if there's a 0% chance for sex :p
 

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That girl I mentioned spent yesterday and most of today with me. Not really sure how I feel about her after spending more time with her.

I do like her, I think she's a nice girl, and I enjoy being intimate with her, it's fun... but beyond that, I don't know...

I don't think she's at much risk of falling for me either. Which I guess puts me off - I spoke to her a lot about romance and love, and she was saying that she's only been in love once, and it took her over a year with that partner to feel like that. For me, that's weird. If I really liked someone I could totally feel like I was in love with them within a few weeks, and if there's no prospect of her being on the same page then I think that's going to be a pretty unenjoyable relationship.

But I like her being around. I enjoy the intimacy, touching, cuddling, stroking her hair, I wonder if part of that is having only left my ex partner recently. When she was lay on my chest after sex, I couldn't help but imagine for a moment that she was my ex. It felt the same. Her warmth, the embrace, it felt good to feel like that again but I don't know if it's anything more than that.

Oh, and I integrated video games into the evening by playing Everything in the background and sticking it on autoplay. She enjoyed Alan Watt's philosophical lectures that feature in the game and thought the way that the animals move was funny.

This is everything for those unaware
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYHp8LwBUzo

It's a pretty cool screensaver for your PS4 / PC, because it plays itself if you don't press anything. I think we probably watched the game play itself for a few hours.
 
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Encore

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Looking for advice. I asked my colleague out at a work party and she said yes. I called her today to see if she was available tomorrow for a coffee, and at first she said yes again.

But then she called me back to ask if we could instead meet after work some day next week. She said she wanted to spend Sunday just chilling at home and getting some rest. She sounded sincere and I totally believe that was the real reason because our job can be very exhausting and I myself usually like to stay in on the weekends recovering after work.

The thing is, I was really excited for the date, and she obviously wasn't since she preferred staying at home over spending time with me. Then, if she doesn't have the strength to go out with me on the weekend, I doubt it'll be any different after work.

I'm not gonna give up just yet because I really like her, but common sense tells me to read the situation as her not really being into me. Do you guys think I still have a chance?
 

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Looking for advice. I asked my colleague out at a work party and she said yes. I called her today to see if she was available tomorrow for a coffee, and at first she said yes again.

But then she called me back to ask if we could instead meet after work some day next week. She said she wanted to spend Sunday just chilling at home and getting some rest. She sounded sincere and I totally believe that was the real reason because our job can be very exhausting and I myself usually like to stay in on the weekends recovering after work.

The thing is, I was really excited for the date, and she obviously wasn't since she preferred staying at home over spending time with me. Then, if she doesn't have the strength to go out with me on the weekend, I doubt it'll be any different after work.

I'm not gonna give up just yet because I really like her, but common sense tells me to read the situation as her not really being into me. Do you guys think I still have a chance?
You're fine, just book the date. If she cancels again without a good reason you might want to reconsider things, but for now it's fine.
 

Alek

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Looking for advice. I asked my colleague out at a work party and she said yes. I called her today to see if she was available tomorrow for a coffee, and at first she said yes again.

But then she called me back to ask if we could instead meet after work some day next week. She said she wanted to spend Sunday just chilling at home and getting some rest. She sounded sincere and I totally believe that was the real reason because our job can be very exhausting and I myself usually like to stay in on the weekends recovering after work.

The thing is, I was really excited for the date, and she obviously wasn't since she preferred staying at home over spending time with me. Then, if she doesn't have the strength to go out with me on the weekend, I doubt it'll be any different after work.

I'm not gonna give up just yet because I really like her, but common sense tells me to read the situation as her not really being into me. Do you guys think I still have a chance?

She may have a reason that she didn't want to meet up, that she didn't want to disclose. Some people have have bad days, for example, some people get down etc.

Just leave her alone for a few days and ask her again. I think you still have a chance.
 

Advc

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Hello DatingEra, some of you might remember me from the other site talking about this girl who was my gf but didn't give a damn about me and it was always coming with excuses to not see me. I saw that some of you were wondering what happened to that story on the first few pages of this thread, wich I appreciate.

I was talking about it right before the other site collapsed and since then, I decided to stop posting about it, because just as I said there once, I'm not that kind of person that shares personal stuff on the internet cuz' I have this paranoia that might end up being stalked and stuff, but since I don't have any friends to talk about it, I had to express all this messy feelings somewhere because I was feeling like going mental, plus you guys kindly took the time to help me with your advice too wich I also appreciate, so yeah, I think an update should be made about it. Apologies it took me this long to do so. Basically: I'm single again. She simply kept dissapearing for weeks and weeks, while ignoring my messages/calls only to randomly come back and say I'm sorry. I simply had enough of that shit and it seems she had it of her own too because she end up telling me that all of this proves that she simply is still not ready to carry with a serious relationship just yet. She was aware of all the mental damage she was causing me by acting and ignoring me like this and that supposedly she also was suffering of that too by ignoring me, but that she couldn't help it due to all the other stuff going on her life right now. She basically asked for some time off and that if I want, we can perhaps try things again sometime in the future when she can felt more mature to carry a serious relationship.

But ehhh, I think I just had enough and will move on. Because during the days where she was "dissapeared" and were still on the relationship, I accidentally discovered on fb that she actually had a graduation ceremony from college and she didn't even told me about it, much less invited me... I also discovered she kept going to local band concerts on her own, or probably with her friends while she kept ignoring me or coming with excuses to not go out with me. I discovered this stuff while casually scrolling through my facebook feed. The graduation pictures of her school suddenly appeared on my feed so no stalking was made whatsoever. Seriously, It's kinda creepy the amount of stuff you can accidentally discover of the people you have on your friend list just by scrolling through your fb feed, even stuff you don't actually want to know about. All of that makes me anxious too so that's why I'm going to take some time off from facebook and social media in general. But seriously, the amount of indifference with her was simply mindblowing.

I think the age difference between us made a big impact on our "relationship" She's 21, I'm 27. When I was 21, I certainly had a different point of view about life in general. At that time I literally wanted to eat the whole world by doing a million things at .once... While fucking it up in pretty much all of them and it seems she's currently going through that phase and still doesn't exactly know what she wants in life just yet. Too bad that due to that, her health has been compromised pretty badly, but there's nothing else I can do at this point but to respect her and wish her luck.

I've been feeling sad, yes, but kinda more relaxed too now that I don't compulsevely check the damn phone every 5 minutes to see if I received a message from her. Heck, there's been some days now where I don't even touch the phone during the whole day and it's been great! My anxiety levels have dropped considerably thanks to that. It's just nice to be free of uncertainty and dramas and I hope that once my feelings are settled out, I can carry on with my life and fix all the stuff I neglected during this time. I left tons of projects and people to the side due to this girl, my health included. It's my fault for gotten so hooked to her, but then again, she was my first gf in like, 5 years or so. Lesson learned for next time. I will also stay away of Tinder and all of that shit for a while in order to focus on myself first, because just by thinking of going into the dating game again, literally makes me sick right now. Dating is hard, guize. Sorry for the lenghty post. If you read it till this point, u awesome! Thanks!
 

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So thinking you will move and just move on. It's unbelievable that after all that she was still the one to end it. Move on just on.