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I watched the first half of Shada last night before my witching hour hit and I went to bed. Loving it!
I've seen the BBC Video reconstruction from the 90s a few times but this was really well done and looks great on Bluray. It looks like they rescanned the film elements and opening titles in HD and they look gorgeous. Even the studio footage from two inch old 625 line (576i) videotape looks good blown up to 1080p (watching on a 4k screen too). This was the last story with Tom's original scarf and I had never noticed the mismatched square patches on the scarf before.
The score is very Dudley Simpson though it does sound a lot like City of Death (which is notable because that one was different from his usual sound). As I live in Cambridge these days, it's also cool trying to work out which bits where filmed where. There's one street I recognised since I use it occasionally to go from work to Byron Burger for lunch!
Just great!
I've seen the BBC Video reconstruction from the 90s a few times but this was really well done and looks great on Bluray. It looks like they rescanned the film elements and opening titles in HD and they look gorgeous. Even the studio footage from two inch old 625 line (576i) videotape looks good blown up to 1080p (watching on a 4k screen too). This was the last story with Tom's original scarf and I had never noticed the mismatched square patches on the scarf before.
The score is very Dudley Simpson though it does sound a lot like City of Death (which is notable because that one was different from his usual sound). As I live in Cambridge these days, it's also cool trying to work out which bits where filmed where. There's one street I recognised since I use it occasionally to go from work to Byron Burger for lunch!
Just great!
Some are quite feasible to the point where I would have sworn I had seen it. Others, not so.
I really want to see "The Three Doctor Who and the Waters of Nimon"
Damn, that's a great tool! Some of these have the potential to spring into full episodes!
- Asylum of Fenric - bring back the Werewolf aliens from Tooth & Claw, whilst another character is convinced they are a Werewolf
- The Caves of Pompeii - the ashen bodies they discovered in Pompeii's ruins
- The Curse of the Raven - Edgar Allan Poe inspired episode
- The Masque of Mars - the Stone face of Mars
- The Sound of the Unknown -Wow! signal
- Mummy on the Doctor - Jackie Tyler returns in Doctor Who's first ever R-rated episode!
two weeks. can't wait.
I guess Capaldi needs to have t he big stand-up regen moment since he didn't get to do that last time.
I guess Capaldi needs to have t he big stand-up regen moment since he didn't get to do that last time.
Methinks youtuber John Smith was involved in the VFX again!
I wonder if that's an intentional callback to the vortex they used in the S5 promo stuff:
Looks great either way
I wonder if that's an intentional callback to the vortex they used in the S5 promo stuff:
Looks great either way
Oh, it definitely could be. It reminded me of one of John Smith's vortexes:
...but it's probably more similar to those S5 promos.
Vortex looks quite good!
Methinks youtuber John Smith was involved in the VFX again!
It feels like it's been a really long time since we've seen a proper vortex effect. When was the last time we saw a literal representation of the vortex before this? The series 7A title sequence?
Methinks youtuber John Smith was involved in the VFX again!
He was.
I wonder if that planet in the background is Gallifrey? It's definitely not earth.
Methinks youtuber John Smith was involved in the VFX again!
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The vortex has only appeared once outside of the title sequence in the Moffat era before now- The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe.
Think it's the glass people's planet, other areas shown in the trailers seem to be on the same planet which don't look Gallifreyan
It was in the Pandorica Opens when River went to Amy's house, wasn't it?
Wrapping up the Series 8 run of my Capaldi rewatch. I think I said I was going to keep these reviews shorter than my Hartnell marathon ones, but, well...
5. Kill the Moon
A lot of people loathe this episode, and my memory of it is that I disliked it too. But watching it again...it seems totally fine? I don't get what the big deal is, aside from some weird, dubious abortion message that I'm not really sure is actually about abortion. One thing I do remember liking about this episode three years ago is the ending, when Clara blows up at the Doctor for manipulating her in a cruel way and how she won't put up with it anymore. I loved it then and love it still now, and it's this scene that cemented Jenna as one of the best actors to play a companion for me. With the benefit of hindsight of knowing where S8 and 9 end up going, this last scene also speaks volumes about the Doctor and Clara's relationship -- more on that below!
6-7. Mummy on the Orient Express / Flatline
The Jamie Mathieson double-header is as strong as it was back when it aired. Both are excellent episodes, each starting with a great premise, populating it with strong supporting characters, fleshing out the Doctor and Clara's increasingly complicated relationship even more (as well as their own individual personalities), with some killer standout moments too. Flatline is also pretty funny and boasts some great effects. No need to elaborate any further; everyone loves these episodes, and it's a well-deserved reputation.
8. Dark Water
When I first saw this episode, I was absolutely blown away by it. Three years later, with the shock of the Missy reveal no longer really a shock (though still well-directed), it's not quite the jaw dropper it was on first watch, but it remains a compelling episode nonetheless. The middle section, once the Doctor and Clara get to 3W, sags a bit (though it's punctuated by the still creepy as fuck "Don't cremate me!"). But what really makes this episode for me is the sensational first 20 minutes, from the total ordinariness of Danny's death to Clara's dark turn ("Do I have your attention?") to the Doctor's professed-in-his-own-way love for his companion ("Do you think that I care so little for you that betraying me would make a difference?"). I mentioned above that I think Jenna is one of the best companion actors the show has had, but what this episode really crystallized for me -- after several episodes of build up across Series 8 -- is that Twelve and Jenna are the most compelling Doctor/companion pair since Ten/Donna (and maybe even better). They're both great actors, they play off each other perfectly, and they bring new depths to the Doctor/companion relationship that go way beyond the romance of Ten/Rose and Ten/Martha, or the best friends of Ten/Donna and Eleven/Amy/Rory.
This is the episode that made me realize how acutely toxic the Doctor and Clara's relationship really is. They have a great deal of love and respect for each other, but mask it in an often caustic way (the Doctor because of a personality reboot, Clara because she wants to prove herself this Doctor's equal) that means needing to hurt each in order to continue demanding that love and respect from one another. They love and disappoint and need each other in equally great and terrible ways, and bring out the best and worst in one another. Now knowing where things go in Series 9, the way the Doctor and Clara's relationship evolves in Series 8 is set up perfectly for the hybrid prophecy that comes later -- which at first, back in 2015, felt a bit sprung on me as a viewer, but now looking back feels like a natural evolution of how the Doctor and Clara regard each other.
Oh, and I forgot to mention Michelle Gomez, but after three years of Missy, what's left to say? Her performance is a total revelation and hands down one of the best characters to emerge not just under Moffat's watch, but in the entire modern show, period.
9. Death in Heaven
If my initial impression of Dark Water was amazement, my initial impression of its conclusion was disappointment. I've never liked this incarnation of UNIT or Kate Stewart, who always seems quite useless every time she appears. And the first half of this episode just feels overall confused: we bounce around from Cybermen marching in the streets to Return of the Living Dead rain clouds hanging over the world's graveyards to the Doctor as president of Earth to all the stuff happening on UNIT's plane, and it just doesn't really all gel well or feel like it's moving forward in a way that makes sense.
But I do like this episode more than I did the first time, and that's largely because of the way things come together in the graveyard, in two specific ways: Clara and Danny's (almost) final goodbye, which is really touching even if, upon rewatch, I've discovered Danny is really annoying and kind of shitty; and the other being the Doctor and Missy's last confrontation. I had completely forgotten about Missy's motivation of raising a Cybermen army solely for the Doctor's benefit, and the way Doctor reacts to and rejects her offer works so well into the arc that has spanned Capaldi's entire run: Is this Doctor a good man? It's not just the Doctor coming to grips with a new incarnation that he declares here is neither good or bad, just an idiot with a blue box and a screwdriver, but it's also paralleled down the line in Series 10. In this finale, Missy wants to show the Doctor that they're the same by trying to corrupt his soul; in the S10 finale, it's the Doctor who wants to show Missy that they're the same by trying to redeem her soul. Rewatching these last two episodes has given me a whole new appreciation for the way Capaldi's Doctor has really evolved as a character over the last three years, in a way that Tennant and Smith's Doctors never really did. Tennant and Smith's run had arcs, but they were plot-driven; Capaldi's major arc is character-driven, and it has given me a renewed appreciation for what Moffat and Capaldi have done with this character.
The episode also ends on a great note, that works so well because of how fucked up the Doctor and Clara's relationship is, where they each lie about how alone they are because they think the other one is better off without them. The Doctor thinks Clara has Danny back and they're going to settle down, and Clara thinks Missy had told the truth and pointed the Doctor back home finally. But Danny is still dead and Gallifrey is still gone, and so the Doctor and Clara separate once more, sacrificing their own happiness for each other's imagined happiness.
5. Kill the Moon
A lot of people loathe this episode, and my memory of it is that I disliked it too. But watching it again...it seems totally fine? I don't get what the big deal is, aside from some weird, dubious abortion message that I'm not really sure is actually about abortion. One thing I do remember liking about this episode three years ago is the ending, when Clara blows up at the Doctor for manipulating her in a cruel way and how she won't put up with it anymore. I loved it then and love it still now, and it's this scene that cemented Jenna as one of the best actors to play a companion for me. With the benefit of hindsight of knowing where S8 and 9 end up going, this last scene also speaks volumes about the Doctor and Clara's relationship -- more on that below!
6-7. Mummy on the Orient Express / Flatline
The Jamie Mathieson double-header is as strong as it was back when it aired. Both are excellent episodes, each starting with a great premise, populating it with strong supporting characters, fleshing out the Doctor and Clara's increasingly complicated relationship even more (as well as their own individual personalities), with some killer standout moments too. Flatline is also pretty funny and boasts some great effects. No need to elaborate any further; everyone loves these episodes, and it's a well-deserved reputation.
8. Dark Water
When I first saw this episode, I was absolutely blown away by it. Three years later, with the shock of the Missy reveal no longer really a shock (though still well-directed), it's not quite the jaw dropper it was on first watch, but it remains a compelling episode nonetheless. The middle section, once the Doctor and Clara get to 3W, sags a bit (though it's punctuated by the still creepy as fuck "Don't cremate me!"). But what really makes this episode for me is the sensational first 20 minutes, from the total ordinariness of Danny's death to Clara's dark turn ("Do I have your attention?") to the Doctor's professed-in-his-own-way love for his companion ("Do you think that I care so little for you that betraying me would make a difference?"). I mentioned above that I think Jenna is one of the best companion actors the show has had, but what this episode really crystallized for me -- after several episodes of build up across Series 8 -- is that Twelve and Jenna are the most compelling Doctor/companion pair since Ten/Donna (and maybe even better). They're both great actors, they play off each other perfectly, and they bring new depths to the Doctor/companion relationship that go way beyond the romance of Ten/Rose and Ten/Martha, or the best friends of Ten/Donna and Eleven/Amy/Rory.
This is the episode that made me realize how acutely toxic the Doctor and Clara's relationship really is. They have a great deal of love and respect for each other, but mask it in an often caustic way (the Doctor because of a personality reboot, Clara because she wants to prove herself this Doctor's equal) that means needing to hurt each in order to continue demanding that love and respect from one another. They love and disappoint and need each other in equally great and terrible ways, and bring out the best and worst in one another. Now knowing where things go in Series 9, the way the Doctor and Clara's relationship evolves in Series 8 is set up perfectly for the hybrid prophecy that comes later -- which at first, back in 2015, felt a bit sprung on me as a viewer, but now looking back feels like a natural evolution of how the Doctor and Clara regard each other.
Oh, and I forgot to mention Michelle Gomez, but after three years of Missy, what's left to say? Her performance is a total revelation and hands down one of the best characters to emerge not just under Moffat's watch, but in the entire modern show, period.
9. Death in Heaven
If my initial impression of Dark Water was amazement, my initial impression of its conclusion was disappointment. I've never liked this incarnation of UNIT or Kate Stewart, who always seems quite useless every time she appears. And the first half of this episode just feels overall confused: we bounce around from Cybermen marching in the streets to Return of the Living Dead rain clouds hanging over the world's graveyards to the Doctor as president of Earth to all the stuff happening on UNIT's plane, and it just doesn't really all gel well or feel like it's moving forward in a way that makes sense.
But I do like this episode more than I did the first time, and that's largely because of the way things come together in the graveyard, in two specific ways: Clara and Danny's (almost) final goodbye, which is really touching even if, upon rewatch, I've discovered Danny is really annoying and kind of shitty; and the other being the Doctor and Missy's last confrontation. I had completely forgotten about Missy's motivation of raising a Cybermen army solely for the Doctor's benefit, and the way Doctor reacts to and rejects her offer works so well into the arc that has spanned Capaldi's entire run: Is this Doctor a good man? It's not just the Doctor coming to grips with a new incarnation that he declares here is neither good or bad, just an idiot with a blue box and a screwdriver, but it's also paralleled down the line in Series 10. In this finale, Missy wants to show the Doctor that they're the same by trying to corrupt his soul; in the S10 finale, it's the Doctor who wants to show Missy that they're the same by trying to redeem her soul. Rewatching these last two episodes has given me a whole new appreciation for the way Capaldi's Doctor has really evolved as a character over the last three years, in a way that Tennant and Smith's Doctors never really did. Tennant and Smith's run had arcs, but they were plot-driven; Capaldi's major arc is character-driven, and it has given me a renewed appreciation for what Moffat and Capaldi have done with this character.
The episode also ends on a great note, that works so well because of how fucked up the Doctor and Clara's relationship is, where they each lie about how alone they are because they think the other one is better off without them. The Doctor thinks Clara has Danny back and they're going to settle down, and Clara thinks Missy had told the truth and pointed the Doctor back home finally. But Danny is still dead and Gallifrey is still gone, and so the Doctor and Clara separate once more, sacrificing their own happiness for each other's imagined happiness.
Danny really is an ass. It's a shame, because there was material there to pull out of that character. The idea of someone who's essentially okay with Clara's adventuring but fed up with her lying about it is a valid character concept and they could've done something interesting with it. But instead, they basically wrote him as being unreasonable and naggy while Clara, who is very clearly in the wrong for almost the entire season, is somehow portrayed as being correct. They never really seem to love each other, and Clara's reaction to his death is so extreme and violent that (even though Jenna acts the hell out of the dark turn) it doesn't really feel earned.
I think the better way to do it would've been to introduce the two of them as having already started dating before the Doctor finds out about him, instead of showing the origin of their relationship as Clara experiences it. We spend so much time on the setup that they're really only "together" for a few episodes before he dies, and there's never enough time to portray their relationship as anything other than antagonistic.
I think the better way to do it would've been to introduce the two of them as having already started dating before the Doctor finds out about him, instead of showing the origin of their relationship as Clara experiences it. We spend so much time on the setup that they're really only "together" for a few episodes before he dies, and there's never enough time to portray their relationship as anything other than antagonistic.
Danny was fine. The Doctor's aggressive assholishness towards him in The Caretaker put me off Capaldi and stopped me watching until I came back for the finale that year.
Thank goodness he got better
Thank goodness he got better
The Doctor was an aggro dick to Danny, absolutely, but the show doesn't do Danny himself any favors by portraying his utterly reasonable reactions to Clara's adventuring (and lying about said adventuring) as irrational or an imposition on Clara herself.
Basically the entire season was written from her perspective, and while I like Clara and think her arc is one of the most compelling things Who's produced in years, I found the way the show handled Danny just utterly idiotic.
It works for me. I could both enjoy Clara's adventures and recognise the tension they introduced into her blossoming relationship with Danny. Particularly good is Danny's identification of Doctor Who as a member of the officer class he, an NCO, grew to loathe in Afghanistan. Doctor Who's tone deaf insistence on calling Danny "P.E.", long after it ceases to be excusable, is particularly good in delineating the fault lines of this three-way relationship.
During the phone call between Danny and Clara in Flat Line while she's attempting to escape from the first floor bedroom, a lot of the humour derives from imagining what Danny makes of what he's hearing.
I don't disagree with any of this. I don't think Danny was a bad character, I think the show made a mistake by framing his entire character through Clara's lens - first as an awkward oddity, then as a nagging imposition, and then as the single most important being in the universe. Danny's reactions to everything that are going on are always positioned as being irrational or an intrusion into Clara's time, which is weird when you consider how much she supposedly values him and how far she's willing to go to coerce the Doctor into bringing him back from the dead. And that's all despite the fact that almost every single thing he says is at the very least a good point, if not completely correct.
The one thing we're missing is an actual exploration of the love those two people are supposed to share for each other. The only time we even see a hint of it is at the end of Kill The Moon, and even then it's still positioned as Danny understanding things well and Clara kind of ignoring what he says.
Oh I watched that last night too, just felt like my post was long enough as is. :lol
The worst aspects of Danny can be summed up in the graveyard scene in Death in Heaven, where he first begs Clara to turn on the inhibitor chip that will kill his emotions. Then, he tells the Doctor that in order for him to look into the Cybermen's hivemind to find their plan, he'll need that inhibitor chip turned on... and proceeds to mock the Doctor as callous and heartless for even considering to kill Danny's emotions in order to understand the enemy. He casts this hypothetical as proof of how shitty the Doctor is, when it's the very thing he was just asking Clara to do literally minutes ago!
There were times I liked Danny, but he was too often overly possessive and suspicious. I think the most I ended up liking him was the dream version in Last Christmas. I don't think that really undermines Clara's depicted investment in the relationship though... she loves Danny, but also feels incredibly guilty for lying to him all season long and is then unable to even cop to those lies before he dies. So when she starts throwing TARDIS keys into a volcano to get the Doctor to rewrite time, it's not just because she misses her boyfriend, but because she's extremely angry at herself.
I really loved that callback to Danny's very accurate criticism of Doctor Who as an officer, someone whose job is often to order soldiers to their deaths. It also recalls, among other things, the words of Davros in the Crucible: "The man who abhors violence, never carrying a gun. But this is the truth, Doctor. You take ordinary people and you fashion them into weapons." It's a fascinating trait, a consistent weakness in Doctor Who's character, and a criticism to which he can never muster an adequate rebuttal.
Overall, this is Danny's most endearing quality. He sees Doctor Who in the most unsentimental light, and foresees the horrible implications for Clara. Yet his own burning need to make the world better overcomes his misgivings. I have not the kind of stoney heart that could fail to admire him, as I admire similar noble qualities in Rory Williams.
I agree with this, except for the bolded. She became an immortal time traveler. Or, if she had gotten written out as planned, just lived to a happy old age.
Your take on Danny is excellent and this is just a tangent, but damn it bugs me the way that they tried to have it both ways with Clara. They built up to a suitably tragic ending for her and as a natural consequence of her increased risk-taking, and then they handwaved it away.
I wasn't trying to imply that Danny could foresee the future with certainty. He's a very bright guy with an insight into the likely ending. Had they gone ahead with the original exit arc, we might now be describing his fears as foreshadowing.
I was actually very pleased with how things turned out for Clara. In my opinion she's up there with Donna as one of the most satisfyingly written companions, and even episodes I don't like so much are better for her presence. The framing device used in Hell Bent is lovely, the whole episode has a light touch, and Doctor Who's coda to Clara on the guitar ushers in a joyful end. Clara and Me are just flirty enough as they run off in their Diner TARDIS, to satisfy my shipping urges.
I agree with you in principle, and think the idea plays better in The Caretaker, especially because of how relatively more brusque the Doctor is in that episode. My issue with Danny in Death in Heaven's graveyard scene is that he begs Clara to turn off his emotions then excoriates the Doctor in front of her for even considering turning off his emotions. What he characterizes as an act of mercy is used against the Doctor literally minutes later as proof of how cold and heartless he is. I think Danny's officer criticism would've fared better in that scene if it had been the Doctor's idea and/or Danny hadn't previously asked Clara to do exactly that.
You know, reading this and recalling the backend of S8 as well as having recently rewatched S9 myself, I genuinely do think 12+Clara is one of the best Doctor/companion pairings of the show. Like, I prefer Bill as a companion, but Clara's dynamic with the Doctor is never not fascinating, mostly because it's so completely twisted and broken. They are terrible for each other but also desperately need each other. It's very rare to have a show where both leads are, by design, not great people making not great decisions.
Also, screw what everyone else thinks, her ending is perfect on pretty much every level.
I hadn't seen it before but i started watching the Galaxy 4 recon that was included with the Aztecs SE DVD release (after they recovered a full episode). It's actually quite enjoyable and I've just got to the surviving episode but the lead up was quite entertaining.
This is the story that has the Chumblies (robots) and is noted for being
also, because it appears quoted in Blader's post. Fuck 'Kill the Moon.'
This is the story that has the Chumblies (robots) and is noted for being
the one where the humanoid females from a society with few men ("we keep some but kill the rest)" fighting against hideous aliens are actually the villains of the piece. I had never seen the aliens in this before. Interesting look for 60s Who
also, because it appears quoted in Blader's post. Fuck 'Kill the Moon.'
WhoNA says that the Shada release in North American has been pushed back to 9/4/2018. We might even have s11 by then :P
http://whona.realtvboard.com/t3263-new-dvd-release-dates
http://whona.realtvboard.com/t3263-new-dvd-release-dates
This is where I am too. I don't understand all the complaints from people saying the Face the Raven or Last Christmas ending was better. No, both the Doctor and Clara were so messed up by the relationship with each other that the Hell Bent ending was necessary for them to be separated from each other. The Doctor spent 4.5 billion years doing the same freaking thing because he wanted to save Clara. That's gone past unhealthy, kicked insane in the balls and is in some other realm that they haven't invented words to describe yet.
Given that Shada has been completed as a feature-length presentation, does that mean that Paul McGann is now the star of Doctor Who: The Movie 2?
https://twitter.com/emmafreud/status/941265578064531456
Forgot this was today...! Still sad that even for charity Eccleston declines to show his face, but hey - £600,000 raised ain't bad going at all.
What is it with all the Eccleston hate?
Stop acting like completely batty, self-entitled fans for just a minute.
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Eccleston was a bully at school and forced a sensitive boy to give him crisps at lunchtime then grew up to be a man that starred in Thor: The Dark World while refusing to come back for the Doctor Who 50th anniversary special and has now declined to participate in this charity event. There's a clear pattern that we can deduce from this chain of events: he was born evil.
Even without Eccleston, this photo makes me incredibly happy.
https://twitter.com/emmafreud/status/941265578064531456
Forgot this was today...! Still sad that even for charity Eccleston declines to show his face, but hey - £600,000 raised ain't bad going at all.
Yeah, the picture is a joy to see...! Matt getting all grey there, too...! Ha. Cool to see Freema still involved from time to time, too - I still have hope that given that Chibs hired her to work on Law & Order UK when he was running that show (poaching her out of appearing in Torchwood Miracle Day) we might see her in a UNIT episode or something during his run... Maybe one day, hey-ho.
Hey, Eccleston is a lovely man and is currently on one of the best and most socially progressive shows on TV at the moment playing a very difficult part, and during promotion for that show he's doing some fabulous outreach... But that doesn't mean it isn't a bummer that he's still so determined to not be associated with Doctor Who that he won't show up to this for a Red Nose Day auction. For me at least in this instance it's not to do with any sense of fan entitlement since I really could not give a damn if he ever comes back for a multi-Doc, or Big Finish, or ever deigns to do conventions - that's a perfectly valid decision to make an an actor. It's perfectly fine that he didn't do the "good luck" call to Jodie that Tennant, Smith and Capaldi did, too - again, up to him. We have his excellent run which is plenty - he gave a lot to the show. I just wish he'd entertain doing the charity breakfast, even if it just means Skyping in as Capaldi and McGann did - since no matter how much he wants to disconnect from the show it's a really good cause.
I mean, I know knee-jerk overreactions are sort of your MO in these Doctor Who threads, but is saying it's sad to see him missing (and Tom, for that matter, but he's very old now and he did the previous one) really elevated to the level of hate? I didn't say fuck Eccleston for not turning up, I said I was sad (or I thought it a shame, whatever) to not have him there.
Hey, Eccleston is a lovely man and is currently on one of the best and most socially progressive shows on TV at the moment playing a very difficult part, and during promotion for that show he's doing some fabulous outreach... But that doesn't mean it isn't a bummer that he's still so determined to not be associated with Doctor Who that he won't show up to this for a Red Nose Day auction. For me at least in this instance it's not to do with any sense of fan entitlement since I really could not give a damn if he ever comes back for a multi-Doc, or Big Finish, or ever deigns to do conventions - that's a perfectly valid decision to make an an actor. It's perfectly fine that he didn't do the "good luck" call to Jodie that Tennant, Smith and Capaldi did, too - again, up to him. We have his excellent run which is plenty - he gave a lot to the show. I just wish he'd entertain doing the charity breakfast, even if it just means Skyping in as Capaldi and McGann did - since no matter how much he wants to disconnect from the show it's a really good cause.
I mean, I know knee-jerk overreactions are sort of your MO in these Doctor Who threads, but is saying it's sad to see him missing (and Tom, for that matter, but he's very old now and he did the previous one) really elevated to the level of hate? I didn't say fuck Eccleston for not turning up, I said I was sad (or I thought it a shame, whatever) to not have him there.
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Just a reaction to being taken well out of context and called a "batty, self-entitled fan" (which in itself is an insult), to be honest, though point taken, sure. I apologize. I assume that you now understand my intent was not what you took from it given that you didn't reply to the rest of my lengthy explanation.
Apology accepted. I apologize for insulting you.
Now in answer to your stated assumption, it's been twelve years. In the name of pity, please stop sniping at an actor who has repeatedly and clearly asked not to be approached about his former role in the show. It gives fandoms a really terrible name when they do this.