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vegohead

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Oct 27, 2017
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You guys are awesome, if it turns out like hostel or a serberian film I'll remember that I "came" the best prepared as possible.

What's freaking me right now, is that she has the face of my ex from two months ago. She's much thinner so I'm sure it's not her, but it's feels like a weird coincidence.

Have a coffee date tonight with a African American woman and I hope it chills my mind for tomorrow, we'll see.
 

WorldofMiku

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Just go on both dates and then make a choice. Regardless of whether you like both that's a choice you'll have to make. I'm sure the other person will understand if you turn them down for any other further dates and you're polite enough about it, not like you owe either person more than the initial date.

That problem doesn't come until much, much later in the dating process. Date them both and see how compatible you are with them. You can date both girls several times before making up your mind.

This is what I wanted to happen. However, this morning I sent Girl #1 a text about the reminder for tonight. Still no response from her, while Girl #2 messaged me this morning. It's quite visibly clear who's more interested in me. I'll not be surprised if Girl #1 calls/texts me like at 5pm and comes with another excuse.

Forget girl one, focus on girl two. Girl one is unreliable and that will be the whole pattern with her if you seriously date.

Just give up on the first girl already man

This is what I'm thinking already. I did say one last chance but I'm getting fed up. I already lost most interest in her during her 9 day ghost, tried to gain some interest in her back but it's not happening. At one point I thought she was serious on meeting me, because she wanted my number and wanted to call me after missing out Sunday.

But Alwayscrazybacon, you're absolutely correct when you said this can be a pattern on further dates. I don't want the cancellations to continue after the first date.

Now I wish Girl #1 would cancel the date so I can fully focus on Girl #2. Saves me the money, energy and time.

You know what's the funny thing? Girl #2 is more beautiful than Girl #1! Like seriously beautiful. Shouldn't it be the opposite?
 

Deleted member 4552

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I think age and location does affect tinder use.

For my age group and location I'm pretty sure it's:
  1. Ego rubs
  2. Dating
  3. Hookups
For the early 20s age group it seems to be
  1. Ego Rubs
  2. Hookups
  3. Dating
Lucky devils.

I met my girlfriend on it, been trying to help my housemate use it but he just responds to suggestions on fixing his profile with "Tinder is rubbish" or "Tinder doesn't work".

He's met my gf many many times..
 

Sygma

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Oct 25, 2017
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But what if he really likes her?!

Who cares ? she doesn't

This is what I'm thinking already. I did say one last chance but I'm getting fed up. I already lost most interest in her during her 9 day ghost, tried to gain some interest in her back but it's not happening. At one point I thought she was serious on meeting me, because she wanted my number and wanted to call me after missing out Sunday.

And this is where most men usually don't realise that they SHOULD NOT CHASE after being dismissed in the first place.

Sorry for the image / bluntness but you're coming across as her dog. Shaking that tail, showing interest. "Notice me !"

Problem is, that behavior isn't attractive from a lady point of view. If she doesn't wonder about what you're up to. If you don't show that she clearly isn't your priority and that your world is spinning without her in it ... there's no room for the gal to actually miss you. To think about you.

And at times, even if that's the case (more so in your, since she simply disappears), it's simply a hint of "Hey man I'm not interested by you, but I don't wanna hurt your feeling, pls get the hint"

So let me ask you : why would you want to be with that prospect to begin with.

 
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That was more rhetorical than anything.

Now I wish Girl #1 would cancel the date so I can fully focus on Girl #2. Saves me the money, energy and time.

You know what's the funny thing? Girl #2 is more beautiful than Girl #1! Like seriously beautiful. Shouldn't it be the opposite?
1) Why can't you cancel the date yourself? Have some agency.

2) What's that supposed to mean? The more beautiful they are, they more you allow them to disrespect you?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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He's basically hedge betting keeping girl one on the line, he over invested in her and cant let that go. Waste of his time, he'll find out that the long way.
 
Nov 17, 2017
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1) Why can't you cancel the date yourself? Have some agency.

2) What's that supposed to mean? The more beautiful they are, they more you allow them to disrespect you?
1) Agreed. If you don't want to go out with her then cancel. She had her chance. Sounds like an unreliable person anyway.

2) What I took from it was that the more attractive woman would be more flaky because she has more options or something. Like people dating people who are as good looking as them. But in reality, that isn't how it always works. Just because an attractive person likes you, doesn't mean everyone that's less attractive than them should like you any more than they do.
 

gaiages

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Oct 25, 2017
488
Florida
I get what you guys are saying. I've been on my fair share of dates which have been:

"So, what do you like doing when you're off work?"

"Uhhmmm I like watching Netflix shows."

"Cool cool, what else?"

"...that's it. I don't really like music or sports or camping (etc) or anything else, just Netflix..."

"...riiiiight..."

It's a bit of a buzzkill haha, especially when I say that I like Motorbike trips into the mountains, jet skiing, camping on the beach etc and they respond with "Wow, that's all stuff I'd never do, sounds too hard/boring."

Sometimes I think I'm boring (since I'm not an outdoorsy person for the most part), then I read crap like this and it makes me feel better. I may be a home body but at least I do *something* other than watch Netflix all day :p
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Sometimes I think I'm boring (since I'm not an outdoorsy person for the most part), then I read crap like this and it makes me feel better. I may be a home body but at least I do *something* other than watch Netflix all day :p
My wife often isnt proactive to think of something to do. But if I make the sugesstion to go out and do something she is on board. Its like she's putting the responsibility on me to think of what we are going to do. It works for us.
 

WorldofMiku

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And this is where most men usually don't realise that they SHOULD NOT CHASE after being dismissed in the first place.

Sorry for the image / bluntness but you're coming across as her dog. Shaking that tail, showing interest. "Notice me !"

Problem is, that behavior isn't attractive from a lady point of view. If she doesn't wonder about what you're up to. If you don't show that she clearly isn't your priority and that your world is spinning without her in it ... there's no room for the gal to actually miss you. To think about you.

And at times, even if that's the case (more so in your, since she simply disappears), it's simply a hint of "Hey man I'm not interested by you, but I don't wanna hurt your feeling, pls get the hint"

So let me ask you : why would you want to be with that prospect to begin with.

Yeah...ok. I get you. Well, I sent her a text this morning anyway. If she doesn't respond to it (or responds, but gives another excuse), I'll block her and move on. I won't even say anything back to her.

1) Why can't you cancel the date yourself? Have some agency.

2) What's that supposed to mean? The more beautiful they are, they more you allow them to disrespect you?
1) You're right, but I'll wait until 4pm. If no response, I'll cancel and move on fully. I have Girl #2 after all.

2) No... because generally, a beautiful girl has more guys chasing her. So it'll be hard for the beautiful girl to keep track with multiple guys, especially the treatment Girl #2 is giving me.
 

Addie

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wow, Miku. For all the shit you gave the first girl about "ghosting," here we are. And the second generalization is something out of Reddit.

Here's the thing: basically ALL women are routinely chased, hit on, and propositioned.

I'd go out with both of them. You're in the pre-dating stage where none of these text games matter in the long run. Just date and see whom you click with, if anyone.
 

WorldofMiku

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Wow, Miku. For all the shit you gave the first girl about "ghosting," here we are. And the second generalization is something out of Reddit.
I haven't ghosted her yet. But I don't want to be the "dog" anymore and if she doesn't respond by 4, I'm out. She wasted a lot of my time already.

Here's the thing: basically ALL women are routinely chased, hit on, and propositioned.
I wouldn't say "all"...
I'd go out with both of them. You're in the pre-dating stage where none of these text games matter in the long run. Just date and see whom you click with, if anyone.
That's what I've been trying, but Girl #1 is coming up with excuses, ghosting etc. And everybody else in this thread disagrees with you with me continuing with this girl anyway.
 

Addie

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People in this thread can disagree. Here's what I want you to do.

Be firm about your 4pm deadline. If she confirms beforehand, go. If she doesn't, or she blows that deadline, don't. And then write her off.
 

Bigg

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Oct 25, 2017
6,640
Do you guys just use Tinder and Bumble now to find dates?

I'm super bummed and bitter about the recent OKC changes. I absolutely suck ass at taking good photos of myself but I thought I wrote a pretty good profile. Now OKC is like every other popular online dating sites where looks are first and everything else is second.

I mean I guess I could try Match again but when I used Match like a year ago it sucked ass
 

Lulu

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Oct 25, 2017
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Tinder and Bumble have always been the best imo. Worth a try.
 
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WorldofMiku

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Be firm about your 4pm deadline. If she confirms beforehand, go. If she doesn't, or she blows that deadline, don't. And then write her off.
Welp, it's 4pm. No response. Going to cancel the date.

Yeah, makes one wonder what an interested person would do instead of that ?

"sure, I look forward to it :)"
I was going to block her on Sunday, but then she asked for my number and we had a small chat on the phone. That's what extended my decision to today.
 

WorldofMiku

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WOW. Cancelled the date and now she responds and tried to call me for a reschedule. Not answering them.
 

JetMan07

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Oct 27, 2017
113
Texas
Just me personally, but after being attached to a girl like that I would want to distance myself from her, but I'd never turn down friendship.

Why not just leave her alone for a few weeks / months, date someone else. Your romantic feelings will likely disappear, and you can be friends, if you want that.

That's what I'm going to try to do. I know it's going to take me a while though because I really thought she might be the one. We just got each other so well. But I also feel so much better today. No more anxiety and pressure to be friends. I feel like a weight was lifted off my chest.

I know I made the right choice. I just wish things would have gone differently. I'll miss talking to her and being around her but she ended things the first time. She decided I wasn't worth overcoming her feelings of being overwhelmed. At least when I ended things with her I told her why and didn't just block her.
 

Gotdatmoney

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Oct 28, 2017
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I don't understand deadlines and stuff for canceling. If I dont wanna go on a date I just say I dont want to. If the person is ghosting you and not responding you just dont address it at all.
 

WorldofMiku

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I don't understand deadlines and stuff for canceling. If I dont wanna go on a date I just say I dont want to. If the person is ghosting you and not responding you just dont address it at all.

I needed a deadline for this case, because I don't want to go to the location only to find out she won't be there. I asked her this morning, "Morning! Are we still on for 6:30pm?" and she zipped her mouth. Cancelled the date and her mouth opens almost immediately. What a joke. Why would anyone like to string people like this.
 

gaiages

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Oct 25, 2017
488
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I needed a deadline for this case, because I don't want to go to the location only to find out she won't be there. I asked her this morning, "Morning! Are we still on for 6:30pm?" and she zipped her mouth. Cancelled the date and her mouth opens almost immediately. What a joke. Why would anyone like to string people like this.

People like attention and you decided to give her more. Lessons learned and all that, now you can ghost without regrets, I suppose?
 

Gotdatmoney

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Oct 28, 2017
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I needed a deadline for this case, because I don't want to go to the location only to find out she won't be there. I asked her this morning, "Morning! Are we still on for 6:30pm?" and she zipped her mouth. Cancelled the date and her mouth opens almost immediately. What a joke. Why would anyone like to string people like this.

If I dont get a response in relation to confirming we are on I dont get to the location. And you just have to accept tinder is an ego boost for people. So you definitely have to be like w/e when this stuff happens.
 

Ernest

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Oct 25, 2017
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I get what you guys are saying. I've been on my fair share of dates which have been:

"So, what do you like doing when you're off work?"

"Uhhmmm I like watching Netflix shows."

"Cool cool, what else?"

"...that's it. I don't really like music or sports or camping (etc) or anything else, just Netflix..."

"...riiiiight..."

It's a bit of a buzzkill haha, especially when I say that I like Motorbike trips into the mountains, jet skiing, camping on the beach etc and they respond with "Wow, that's all stuff I'd never do, sounds too hard/boring."
Must be an age thing (or location)... I've not run into that much, if at all. If anything, it's been the reverse, were the women I've gone out with (age range 34 to 44, Southern California area) have had some pretty interesting life-stories, and have a ton of hobbies and interests that make them engaging, even if the spark for a relationship isn't there.
 
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If I dont get a response in relation to confirming we are on I dont get to the location. And you just have to accept tinder is an ego boost for people. So you definitely have to be like w/e when this stuff happens.
Learned that the hard way once. Confirmed the day before but no response the day of. Ended up at a place waiting for someone who never showed up. At least it was only a few blocks from my apartment but still felt bad since I had gotten all ready for the date. Getting stood up is an awful feeling.

Now I always wait for a response when I send confirmation the day of.
 

Gotdatmoney

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Oct 28, 2017
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Learned that the hard way once. Confirmed the day before but no response the day of. Ended up at a place waiting for someone who never showed up. At least it was only a few blocks from my apartment but still felt bad since I had gotten all ready for the date. Getting stood up is an awful feeling.

Now I always wait for a response when I send confirmation the day of.

Yeah. If someone can't bother to send a confirmation text then it's just a waste of time anyway.
 

Alek

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Oct 28, 2017
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Man this girl...

She's broke, since she's spent all her money on Christmas shit. I suggest we go out anyway, say I'll pay. Says she won't let me pay, because I've paid for too much.

She then suggests going to a cocktail bar, because it's '2 for 1 cocktails' and she'll take the free ones...

It doesn't work like that. It just doesn't. If I have to buy full priced cocktails all night, so that you can get free ones, then that means I paid for yours.
 

gaiages

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Oct 25, 2017
488
Florida
Man this girl...

She's broke, since she's spent all her money on Christmas shit. I suggest we go out anyway, say I'll pay. Says she won't let me pay, because I've paid for too much.

She then suggests going to a cocktail bar, because it's '2 for 1 cocktails' and she'll take the free ones...

It doesn't work like that. It just doesn't. If I have to buy full priced cocktails all night, so that you can get free ones, then that means I paid for yours.

lol just seems like she wants to make herself feel better for you having to pay again. Weird but probably harmless.
 

TheIdiot

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Oct 27, 2017
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Man this girl...

She's broke, since she's spent all her money on Christmas shit. I suggest we go out anyway, say I'll pay. Says she won't let me pay, because I've paid for too much.

She then suggests going to a cocktail bar, because it's '2 for 1 cocktails' and she'll take the free ones...

It doesn't work like that. It just doesn't. If I have to buy full priced cocktails all night, so that you can get free ones, then that means I paid for yours.

Haha that's pretty funny. How long have you been dating? Why not just a bottle of wine at your place with some music?
 

EndlessNever

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't really know where to put this and I don't want to start a new thread just for this so I've decided to share my thoughts here.

I've just gotten out of a six-year-long relationship, and you know what? I'm not nearly as sad or depressed as I thought I would be, if honest. Don't get me wrong though, I will still miss her a hell of a lot. And it was a mutual kind of break up too. She wasn't happy in the relationship and just in life in general, and I was kind of growing apart from her, unfortunately. I'm sad that I will miss seeing her and getting to spend time with her, but at the same time, I feel like I can breath fresh air again, if that makes any sense. I'm kind of excited to have the chance to meet someone new and get to know them. I'm generally a pretty shy person but I still really enjoy the actual date parts.

But I've yet to really tell anyone about me and my ex splitting. To me, that is always the most awkward part of any conversation with family and friends/co-workers who mention said other, and you have to bring it up and then they try to give you sympathy and stuff, lol. But I hope my ex is okay, she seemed really unhappy with more just life in general than just our relationship, but I do think that was a major cause of it so hopefully, with us being apart she can become happy again, cause she deserves it.

But yeah, in the coming days I might try Tinder, and just see what happens. I never used it before though, so I will have to take some pictures of myself and get a good bio. If anyone has tips, just throw them at me.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I needed a deadline for this case, because I don't want to go to the location only to find out she won't be there. I asked her this morning, "Morning! Are we still on for 6:30pm?" and she zipped her mouth. Cancelled the date and her mouth opens almost immediately. What a joke. Why would anyone like to string people like this.

Your the one that kept coming up with reasons to keep trying to arrange a date with her even though this was all predictable. I told you to drop girl #1 and yet here we are and your blaming her for stringing you along.
 

Faust

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Oct 25, 2017
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Your the one that kept coming up with reasons to keep trying to arrange a date with her even though this was all predictable. I told you to drop girl #1 and yet here we are and your blaming her for stringing you along.
I haven't seen all the posts but from the recent ones it seems at least partially sell inflicted. Did he tell her it was a dead line of 4:30 or whatever or did he just say it in his mind and not tell her? I'm still not sure I understand that.
 

Alek

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Oct 28, 2017
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Haha that's pretty funny. How long have you been dating? Why not just a bottle of wine at your place with some music?

Not very long, just two weeks. But we've been out together 7-8 times in the past 2 weeks. She won't come to mine tonight because it's too far for her to stay over and easily get to work in the morning without getting up at 6am. She has a few times previously, but it's a pain, because I have to order her a taxi at 6am in the morning (which is expensive) and we both have to get up super early.

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We ended up meeting at the cocktail place. I said I wanted food and took her to a restaurant instead. We had a good time. I gave her a christmas present. Okami HD and The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat by Oliver Sacks. She seemed to love them, so I'm pleased with that at least.

I don't really know where to put this and I don't want to start a new thread just for this so I've decided to share my thoughts here.

I've just gotten out of a six-year-long relationship, and you know what? I'm not nearly as sad or depressed as I thought I would be, if honest. Don't get me wrong though, I will still miss her a hell of a lot. And it was a mutual kind of break up too. She wasn't happy in the relationship and just in life in general, and I was kind of growing apart from her, unfortunately. I'm sad that I will miss seeing her and getting to spend time with her, but at the same time, I feel like I can breath fresh air again, if that makes any sense. I'm kind of excited to have the chance to meet someone new and get to know them. I'm generally a pretty shy person but I still really enjoy the actual date parts.

But I've yet to really tell anyone about me and my ex splitting. To me, that is always the most awkward part of any conversation with family and friends/co-workers who mention said other, and you have to bring it up and then they try to give you sympathy and stuff, lol. But I hope my ex is okay, she seemed really unhappy with more just life in general than just our relationship, but I do think that was a major cause of it so hopefully, with us being apart she can become happy again, cause she deserves it.

But yeah, in the coming days I might try Tinder, and just see what happens. I never used it before though, so I will have to take some pictures of myself and get a good bio. If anyone has tips, just throw them at me.

Hey man. I went through a super similar experience like 5 weeks ago, splitting with my fiance of 5 years, and while I was heart broken at the time. I got over it super quickly. I used Tinder to date all kinds of women. As you say, it was a breath of fresh air getting to meet new people.

I went out with about 9 women in the past 5 weeks, across 20+ dates, and among them I met a nice girl, who I'm dating exclusively at the moment. I'm a lot happier now than I was in the final year of my relationship with my fiance. I don't know if things will work out with the girl I'm seeing right now, but I love getting to know someone new. The intimacy is pretty good too, as it became pretty stale with my ex.

Hopefully you find a similar experience.
 
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EndlessNever

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Oct 25, 2017
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Not very long, just two weeks. But we've been out together 7-8 times in the past 2 weeks. She won't come to mine tonight because it's too far for her to stay over and easily get to work in the morning without getting up at 6am. She has a few times previously, but it's a pain, because I have to order her a taxi at 6am in the morning (which is expensive) and we both have to get up super early.

--

We ended up meeting at the cocktail place. I said I wanted food and took her to a restaurant instead. We had a good time. I gave her a christmas present. Okami HD and The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat by Oliver Sacks. She seemed to love them, so I'm pleased with that at least.



Hey man. I went through a super similar experience like 5 weeks ago, splitting with my fiance of 5 years, and while I was heart broken at the time. I got over it super quickly. I used Tinder to date all kinds of women. As you say, it was a breath of fresh air getting to meet new people.

I went out with about 9 women in the past 5 weeks, across 20+ dates, and among them I met a nice girl, who I'm dating exclusively at the moment. I'm a lot happier now than I was in the final year of my relationship with my fiance. I don't know if things will work out with the girl I'm seeing right now, but I love getting to know someone new. The intimacy is pretty good too, as it became pretty stale with my ex.

Hopefully you find a similar experience.
Sorry to hear about your last relationship, man. But yeah, the best way I can describe it right now is it's just like breathing fresh again for the first time in months. The breakup was mutual, but I think I'm stomaching it easier and am not overly sad because these last few weeks (probably months even?) I could feel something like this happening, and was kind of bracing for impact. So yeah, not too bad right now.

But yeah! I've never used Tinder but I love going on dates and just getting to know somebody and experiencing that stuff because it generally always brings a smile to my face. I'm not looking for anything serious, more just the experience? If that makes sense? lol.
 
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I haven't seen all the posts but from the recent ones it seems at least partially sell inflicted. Did he tell her it was a dead line of 4:30 or whatever or did he just say it in his mind and not tell her? I'm still not sure I understand that.
Things with this woman have been flaky for the past 20 days or so - they still haven't met. He's had every right to divest from her, this deadline is a concrete rationale that'll let his mind switch her off.
 

WorldofMiku

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People like attention and you decided to give her more. Lessons learned and all that, now you can ghost without regrets, I suppose?
I don't like ghosting people, I want to avoid it but when I'm pushed to the edge I have no choice.
If I dont get a response in relation to confirming we are on I dont get to the location.
I agree with this for other women. Girl #1 had her chances and I didn't want this to drag any longer.

Your the one that kept coming up with reasons to keep trying to arrange a date with her even though this was all predictable. I told you to drop girl #1 and yet here we are and your blaming her for stringing you along.
She asked for my number and we talked on the phone. I thought she was serious when she did this.

I haven't seen all the posts but from the recent ones it seems at least partially sell inflicted. Did he tell her it was a dead line of 4:30 or whatever or did he just say it in his mind and not tell her? I'm still not sure I understand that.
I never told her that she has a deadline. I just told everyone here what was on my mind. All I said to her is "Morning! Are we still on for 6:30pm". She didn't respond until 4pm, when I cancelled the date. She responded almost immediately. Blocked her on my phone.

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Girl #1 is at it again. While I blocked her on my phone, I forgot to block her e-mail, so she sent an e-mail saying "What happened? Are you okay? I'm worried about you." Lol, worried? No you're not.

What do you guys suggest? Should respond with a rant then block or just continue to ghost and block? (And no, I'm not interested in meeting her anymore. It's final.)
 
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PopsMaellard

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Oct 27, 2017
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Okay, I have a long confusing ramble but I feel like I really desperately need some outside advice. I've talked to a few of my closer friends about it but a lot of them are pretty isolated outside of me and it's hard to not impart a bias in that context. I'm also aware that this is almost entirely my fault. I just feel super lost and alone rn

I dated a girl for four years. I was homeschooled for almost my entire life, but my parents still wanted me to go to a traditional university (thank god). I was a socially anxious disaster for a long time after that (I still am, albeit to a much lesser extent), and kind of went on a few dates during my first year but not really. I met four year girl, and that went really well for a long time. I wasn't super prepared for the demands of a long term relationship though, or maybe even a relationship at all tbh. So things started to fall apart. It wasn't entirely on me; she eventually became kind of verbally abusive to a point that really temporarily damaged me. All of our fights were small, about why I hadn't done the dishes or whether or not we would go to a mutual friend's party, but they always ended with her screaming at me and trying to find the most hurtful things to say, which she was disturbingly good at. Eventually in the last six months we got to a point where she would tell me we were done, throw all of my stuff out of her room and ignore me for a few hours. This always ended with her coming back and being like "I'll give you another chance but you're on thin ice". I got caught up in wondering what my life would look like if we did actually break up, as we had so much intertwined from our dog to all of the mutual friends we had made in the past 4 years.

Eventually even this faded, and I was so numb to that pain and the constant struggle of everything else in my life that I just kind of gave up. Eventually I found the confidence to end it, and we broke up about two months ago. Surprisingly it didn't hurt that much in the moment. She was seemingly mostly okay with it, maybe a bit less so than I, but still over it as well.

Anyway, so that happens early on and I come to terms with the reality that I'm going to be single for my last semester of school and maybe should explore that. I also have a bunch of controversial ideas about the idea of monogamy knocking around uncomfortably, and I'm trying to figure that out. I can't really see being with a singular person forever. Forever is an unimaginably long time. And as I've been putting myself out there, it's been really had not to continually seek the insane, electric tension of feelings developing. Even just sexual tension. It's so crazy for the first few weeks, even months, and I want to keep doing that. It would be wonderful to have a long term, committed partner that things had simmered down with, but you get all of the benefits of that long term comfortability with, but also explore things with other people in a more short term context. So post-breakup, I just want to feel things out and figure out what I want, and maybe need?

A week later I was hanging out with one of our mutual friends, and she kind of just jumped on me while watching Bladerunner. I stopped for a moment to clarify where I was at, which is to say that I'm not going to be dating any time soon and if she was fine with like, a casual version of casual and still being friends in that context then we could keep going. So we did. And then we hooked up again after a concert a week or two later. Right when that happened, the last two weeks of school started and I essentially disappeared. I didn't deliberately hang out with anyone outside of one chill bar night, that I snapchatted her. I was still texting her and others, reasonably consistently (like once a day), but she was reaaaally upset about it. A few nights ago she started snapchatting me videos of her and her roommate using Tinder, and a bit later messaged me to be like "I was only doing that to get a reaction out of you". Then I got a bunch of drunk texts about how shitty I am and how unfair it was of me to not make time for her. Which, to a certain extent, I do feel really bad about. I had a really difficult final two weeks of school, the last week of which I was sleeping less than two hours a day to make time for everything. So in the moment, I apologized and said I would be there more consistently, and we've just had casual text convos since (it's only been like two days).

As this was happening, I was also kind of exploring being single and what that looks like. Maybe too soon, as everyone keeps telling me. I had some tinder hookups, a few boring dates, but mostly good stuff? Tinder stuff just going really well for a while, and then it became a lot of work to be consistently messaging/texting multiple people that I was seeing in that context. So I kind of took a step back, which led to the next few things.

One of my coworkers and I went out together and unexpectedly made out for a bit at the end of the night. She has a girlfriend, which I wasn't aware of at the time. After that, they worked through things and coworker (let's call them Lars) was trying to figure out poly. So we went on a few dates that were almost surprisingly amazing, and that was feeling great. But Lars's girlfriend wasn't super happy, despite them explicitly communicating about that. So my relationship with Lars has been a bit up in the air and fluctuates a lot. That said, I'm still single and still enjoying human connection so I was still seeing other people. Lars knew this and we talked about about where we were at, and it was fine. I especially thought we were on the same page given that she had a committed long term significant other, and I was very clearly pretty low on her priorities list. Girlfriend first, personal time second, friends and I hard third. I was fine with that. I really enjoyed what we were doing and she was the only person I had genuine feelings for, so I was okay with taking it slow with the understanding that this was an open thing. Outside of us making out the first time, we've never done anything more than that because of her working through her relationship.

So then one of our other coworkers wanted to go out, and I thought that was just a friend thing. So I went out with her (let's call her Bartholomew because I'm dumb and trying to make the sadness better). Early on I explained to her the Lars situation, which was a bad move. Like a really bad move. She talks to everyone about everything, and I should have known that explicitly asking her not to share wouldn't change that. Later in the night, we're both pretty drunk at a club, and she starts making out with me. I just went with it again, because I'm impulsive and selfish but also don't put physicality on a pedestal and thought it was something we could just do. I paused to go through the same "hey not looking to date anyone but if you'd like to casually be like FWB that's cool" disclaimer, and she kept saying that she felt the same, so we went back to her place.

The next morning Bartholomew goes to work and tells Lars. Like multiple times, apparently. Lars is upset, talks to me about it, we seem to work through things as I validate that it was unfair to do without a heads up and that I don't have feelings for Bartholomew, and that it was just a casual thing. It wasn't great, but everything seemed okay for a bit.

Bartholomew hits me up a week later wanting to go to a party with her friends. At first I try to be rational and not make things worse with the singular relationship I actually care about right now, but then I did it anyway. Definitely shitty, and I feel pretty bad the next day but I'm trying to collect myself internally and figure out what I should have done, and what I can do. I still feel this weird sense of unfairness in the context of Lars actively dating someone seriously, yet being upset with me for hooking up with someone, especially when we're not able to do anything physical on her end because of inevitably complicated poly stuff. I recognize that the context is definitely different, and I'm not that caught up on it. But some part of me irrationally thought it would be okay.

Bartholomew and Lars go out together, I don't talk to them until this morning at work. They're both upset about different things? Lars and I talk outside for a bit and she's mostly good, just upset that I didn't tell her and also on a firm "we're just friends" note. So that's wrapped up in a way that's been really hard to deal with.

Now I have to go talk to Bartholomew in an hour, and I have no idea what that looks like. I shouldn't keep hooking up with her, apparently, as that's creating really intense feelings and I'm hurting people. But I'm also really torn on the Lars part, as that made me genuinely happy, and now I feel like it's just forever gone.

Oh and in the interim a girl tried to hook up at a party the day before that, I made plans with her for last night, she wanted to smoke and I'm a pathetic mess when high, so it was very quiet and awkward and she hasn't texted me since. She was really cool last night and I feel like I just irrevocably fucked that up as well. Now I'm about to be back at zero with a bunch of people hating me and I don't know what to do. I thought I was explicit enough about what was happening with each person, but apparently not, and I feel like a horrible person now.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,159
China
I don't like ghosting people, I want to avoid it but when I'm pushed to the edge I have no choice.

I agree with this for other women. Girl #1 had her chances and I didn't want this to drag any longer.


She asked for my number and we talked on the phone. I thought she was serious when she did this.


I never told her that she has a deadline. I just told everyone here what was on my mind. All I said to her is "Morning! Are we still on for 6:30pm". She didn't respond until 4pm, when I cancelled the date. She responded almost immediately. Blocked her on my phone.

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Girl #1 is at it again. While I blocked her on my phone, I forgot to block her e-mail, so she sent an e-mail saying "What happened? Are you okay? I'm worried about you." Lol, worried? No you're not.

What do you guys suggest? Should respond with a rant then block or just continue to ghost and block? (And no, I'm not interested in meeting her anymore. It's final.)
Remember when I told you why women ghost? Now you want to rant at her becuse you're butthurt? Thats something you've considered?
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,159
China
Okay, I have a long confusing ramble but I feel like I really desperately need some outside advice. I've talked to a few of my closer friends about it but a lot of them are pretty isolated outside of me and it's hard to not impart a bias in that context. I'm also aware that this is almost entirely my fault. I just feel super lost and alone rn

I dated a girl for four years. I was homeschooled for almost my entire life, but my parents still wanted me to go to a traditional university (thank god). I was a socially anxious disaster for a long time after that (I still am, albeit to a much lesser extent), and kind of went on a few dates during my first year but not really. I met four year girl, and that went really well for a long time. I wasn't super prepared for the demands of a long term relationship though, or maybe even a relationship at all tbh. So things started to fall apart. It wasn't entirely on me; she eventually became kind of verbally abusive to a point that really temporarily damaged me. All of our fights were small, about why I hadn't done the dishes or whether or not we would go to a mutual friend's party, but they always ended with her screaming at me and trying to find the most hurtful things to say, which she was disturbingly good at. Eventually in the last six months we got to a point where she would tell me we were done, throw all of my stuff out of her room and ignore me for a few hours. This always ended with her coming back and being like "I'll give you another chance but you're on thin ice". I got caught up in wondering what my life would look like if we did actually break up, as we had so much intertwined from our dog to all of the mutual friends we had made in the past 4 years.

Eventually even this faded, and I was so numb to that pain and the constant struggle of everything else in my life that I just kind of gave up. Eventually I found the confidence to end it, and we broke up about two months ago. Surprisingly it didn't hurt that much in the moment. She was seemingly mostly okay with it, maybe a bit less so than I, but still over it as well.

Anyway, so that happens early on and I come to terms with the reality that I'm going to be single for my last semester of school and maybe should explore that. I also have a bunch of controversial ideas about the idea of monogamy knocking around uncomfortably, and I'm trying to figure that out. I can't really see being with a singular person forever. Forever is an unimaginably long time. And as I've been putting myself out there, it's been really had not to continually seek the insane, electric tension of feelings developing. Even just sexual tension. It's so crazy for the first few weeks, even months, and I want to keep doing that. It would be wonderful to have a long term, committed partner that things had simmered down with, but you get all of the benefits of that long term comfortability with, but also explore things with other people in a more short term context. So post-breakup, I just want to feel things out and figure out what I want, and maybe need?

A week later I was hanging out with one of our mutual friends, and she kind of just jumped on me while watching Bladerunner. I stopped for a moment to clarify where I was at, which is to say that I'm not going to be dating any time soon and if she was fine with like, a casual version of casual and still being friends in that context then we could keep going. So we did. And then we hooked up again after a concert a week or two later. Right when that happened, the last two weeks of school started and I essentially disappeared. I didn't deliberately hang out with anyone outside of one chill bar night, that I snapchatted her. I was still texting her and others, reasonably consistently (like once a day), but she was reaaaally upset about it. A few nights ago she started snapchatting me videos of her and her roommate using Tinder, and a bit later messaged me to be like "I was only doing that to get a reaction out of you". Then I got a bunch of drunk texts about how shitty I am and how unfair it was of me to not make time for her. Which, to a certain extent, I do feel really bad about. I had a really difficult final two weeks of school, the last week of which I was sleeping less than two hours a day to make time for everything. So in the moment, I apologized and said I would be there more consistently, and we've just had casual text convos since (it's only been like two days).

As this was happening, I was also kind of exploring being single and what that looks like. Maybe too soon, as everyone keeps telling me. I had some tinder hookups, a few boring dates, but mostly good stuff? Tinder stuff just going really well for a while, and then it became a lot of work to be consistently messaging/texting multiple people that I was seeing in that context. So I kind of took a step back, which led to the next few things.

One of my coworkers and I went out together and unexpectedly made out for a bit at the end of the night. She has a girlfriend, which I wasn't aware of at the time. After that, they worked through things and coworker (let's call them Lars) was trying to figure out poly. So we went on a few dates that were almost surprisingly amazing, and that was feeling great. But Lars's girlfriend wasn't super happy, despite them explicitly communicating about that. So my relationship with Lars has been a bit up in the air and fluctuates a lot. That said, I'm still single and still enjoying human connection so I was still seeing other people. Lars knew this and we talked about about where we were at, and it was fine. I especially thought we were on the same page given that she had a committed long term significant other, and I was very clearly pretty low on her priorities list. Girlfriend first, personal time second, friends and I hard third. I was fine with that. I really enjoyed what we were doing and she was the only person I had genuine feelings for, so I was okay with taking it slow with the understanding that this was an open thing. Outside of us making out the first time, we've never done anything more than that because of her working through her relationship.

So then one of our other coworkers wanted to go out, and I thought that was just a friend thing. So I went out with her (let's call her Bartholomew because I'm dumb and trying to make the sadness better). Early on I explained to her the Lars situation, which was a bad move. Like a really bad move. She talks to everyone about everything, and I should have known that explicitly asking her not to share wouldn't change that. Later in the night, we're both pretty drunk at a club, and she starts making out with me. I just went with it again, because I'm impulsive and selfish but also don't put physicality on a pedestal and thought it was something we could just do. I paused to go through the same "hey not looking to date anyone but if you'd like to casually be like FWB that's cool" disclaimer, and she kept saying that she felt the same, so we went back to her place.

The next morning Bartholomew goes to work and tells Lars. Like multiple times, apparently. Lars is upset, talks to me about it, we seem to work through things as I validate that it was unfair to do without a heads up and that I don't have feelings for Bartholomew, and that it was just a casual thing. It wasn't great, but everything seemed okay for a bit.

Bartholomew hits me up a week later wanting to go to a party with her friends. At first I try to be rational and not make things worse with the singular relationship I actually care about right now, but then I did it anyway. Definitely shitty, and I feel pretty bad the next day but I'm trying to collect myself internally and figure out what I should have done, and what I can do. I still feel this weird sense of unfairness in the context of Lars actively dating someone seriously, yet being upset with me for hooking up with someone, especially when we're not able to do anything physical on her end because of inevitably complicated poly stuff. I recognize that the context is definitely different, and I'm not that caught up on it. But some part of me irrationally thought it would be okay.

Bartholomew and Lars go out together, I don't talk to them until this morning at work. They're both upset about different things? Lars and I talk outside for a bit and she's mostly good, just upset that I didn't tell her and also on a firm "we're just friends" note. So that's wrapped up in a way that's been really hard to deal with.

Now I have to go talk to Bartholomew in an hour, and I have no idea what that looks like. I shouldn't keep hooking up with her, apparently, as that's creating really intense feelings and I'm hurting people. But I'm also really torn on the Lars part, as that made me genuinely happy, and now I feel like it's just forever gone.

Oh and in the interim a girl tried to hook up at a party the day before that, I made plans with her for last night, she wanted to smoke and I'm a pathetic mess when high, so it was very quiet and awkward and she hasn't texted me since. She was really cool last night and I feel like I just irrevocably fucked that up as well. Now I'm about to be back at zero with a bunch of people hating me and I don't know what to do. I thought I was explicit enough about what was happening with each person, but apparently not, and I feel like a horrible person now.
That's just a whole bunch of teenage drama. What's your question?