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BWoog

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I know it's pretty lost in the shuffle but I'm wondering who the villain/s will be in MCU Spidey 2.

I'd put my money on it being Kraven or Mysterio.
 

Nakenorm

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Oct 26, 2017
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I know it's pretty lost in the shuffle but I'm wondering who the villain/s will be in MCU Spidey 2.

I'd put my money on it being Kraven or Mysterio.
Hopefully Mysterio.
Maybe even with scorpion as a second villain, can't imagine they teased him in the first film just for nothing.
 

Cocamantis

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Oct 28, 2017
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Yeah, I hope that Misterio and Scorpio are the villains for Spider-Man 2.
Feige already said that we'll get new bad guys that haven't been in previous movies. Which is perfect.
 
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I know it's pretty lost in the shuffle but I'm wondering who the villain/s will be in MCU Spidey 2.

I'd put my money on it being Kraven or Mysterio.

Considering every Spiderman movie will need to feature a previously established Avenger (as per the deal with Sony), I think Mysterio as the villain is a smart choice, with Dr Strange (and Wong, perhaps Scarlet Witch too?) as the Avenger.
 

guek

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I think it'd be worth it if we actually got Gobbie and not prototype armor and a weird Goblin helmet, but I'm in no rush.
Having to introduce Harry in a sequel is probably the most difficult part about doing Norman Osborne, tbh. If they wanted to go down the Osborne route again, Harry needed to be in the first movie. I'd rather they go a completely different direction at this point, as much as I love the Green Goblin character.
 

Blade30

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Oct 26, 2017
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/e/: Well shit, it was already posted on a different video above (which I was about to watch next) :/

Not sure if it was posted but here is short q&a with the directors on the Avengers Movies.

 

luca

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Oct 25, 2017
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Have in mind that there are Thor: Ragnarok ending spoilers in that video for those of you you haven't seen that movie yet.
 

Soupman Prime

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Nov 8, 2017
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I know it's pretty lost in the shuffle but I'm wondering who the villain/s will be in MCU Spidey 2.

I'd put my money on it being Kraven or Mysterio.
Mysterious would be awesome as well as Kraven. I think it's been confirmed that there will be another Avenger to show up. If it's Mysterio then Strange being the guy would be awesome. And if it's Kraven I'd love for Panther to be in it but if that doesn't make sense since he is king then Black Widow or Ant Man.
 

Cocamantis

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Oct 28, 2017
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Widow would be a nice addition to Spider-Man. She could teach a lot of martial arts and shit. Clint would be dope too. I think that any other character could cast a shadow over Peter (unless their appearence is like an extended cameo a la IronMan).
 

Mandos

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Nov 27, 2017
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Ant man would be a good unobtrusive hero, and a good counter to a subtle tech villain like mysterio
 

Quick

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I don't think Peter needs another mentor necessarily, but a Black Widow/Hawkeye appearance would be cool.

Less mentorship, maybe more so crossing paths.
 

guek

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The cameo hero in the next Spider-Man is going to be someone who can actually teach Peter something. My prediction is they'll continue to play heavy on the mentor and trainee aspect. I don't think Peter is going to really come into his own as a hero until his third movie anyway.

It could be Widow. More likely than Ant-Man, at least from a story perspective. Though I'd be afraid they'd lean to heavy into Widow being some sort of Avenger-mom to Peter.
 

Cocamantis

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Oct 28, 2017
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I have a feeling that Widow will get rekt by the end of Infinity War, Clint goes rogue and becomes Ronin because of it. In the third act of Avengers 4, Widow will be alive because Time Stone and shit.
 

Soupman Prime

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If you gonna have Kraven in Spiderman having Black Panther show up would be great.
Black Panther would be perfect if he was gonna have a bigger part in the movie. If he was in it the same amount as IM which wasn't much then what would he do? I don't think you'd want Kraven to capture BP and have to depend on Spidey to save him. And you can't have Kraven actively hunt BP because that would put a lot of focus on him rather than Spidey.

I do wonder if people would even bitch if BP got the Hulk treatment in Homecoming 2. Because I know there was a TON of bitching about Iron Man being in Homecoming even if he was in it for maybe 15 mins at the most.


Oh and with the new year we are about 6 weeks away from Panther. TV Spots galore will be coming, gonna be hard for those that wanna go in blind. Will we get a final trailer because right now we just have the teaser and the official trailer.
 

luca

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Oct 25, 2017
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Our King is fucking slick.

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AquaWateria

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Y'all think Nakia the character that Lupita is playing will turn into a villain.

I mean we haven't seen her as a prominent character like Shuri and Okoye whom been shown in Infinity War promotional material. Then again I doubt it would have any relation to her character.

In the comics that's how her character ends up.
 
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Y'all think Nakia the character that Lupita is playing will turn into a villain.

I mean we haven't seen her as a prominent character like Shuri and Okoye whom been shown in Infinity War promotional material. Then again I doubt it would have any relation to her character.

In the comics that's how her character ends up.

Tagging just in case
This doesn't seem to be the case looking at the trailers. We see Killmonger attacking Nakia when he enters conflict with the Dora and dons the Golden Panther gear. Unless she does a heel turn at the end of the film( I don't see why she would post-Killmonger), I'm gonna guess it doesn't go well for her in that battle.
 

luca

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To think that Captain Marvel starts filming next month. Spider-Man: Homecoming 2 starts this June. And then we only got GotG Vol. 3 left with a filming date and we are out of movies. Marvel Studios will have to come out and announce their next slate of movies. This fall already? Or maybe in spring 2019?
 

clay_ghost

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To think that Captain Marvel starts filming next month. Spider-Man: Homecoming 2 starts this June. And then we only got GotG Vol. 3 left with a filming date and we are out of movies. Marvel Studios will have to come out and announce their next slate of movies. This fall already? Or maybe in spring 2019?
I will guess as soon as a month After Antman end its run to maintain the MARVEL HYPE. So around September.
 

luca

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Oct 25, 2017
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Since they probably aren't gonna announce a whole phase like the last time around, I could see Kevin Feige announce a slate of nine movies going through 3 years. That's kind of a phase though lol.

2020: Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
2020: Doctor Strange: The Sorcerer Supreme
2020: Black Panther: Return of a King
2021: Black Widow
2021: Ant-Man and Friends
2021: The Fantastic Four
2022: Deadpool 3
2022: Captain Marvel: Pilot Wing Command
2022: Avengers vs. X-Men

I'm speculating my ass into 2018. Just having fun with it.

Black Panther is next month. NEXT MONTH!
 
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clay_ghost

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just realized that Kevin Feige probably changed and revised their plan when they get Xmen and FF back. Think we will get a later announcement then.
 
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I also think we'll get an announcement after the deal closes, probably D23 2019 or comic con 2019. If it closes before that, they might set up a special event to announce the next set of movies.
 

Wingfan19

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Oct 25, 2017
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They're moving to 4 movies a year, count on it. They have too many characters now to only have 3 movies in a single year. Actors aren't going be waiting around and getting younger having to wait 4 to 5 years in between movies.

My bet is..

2020: Guardians Vol 3
2020: Black Panther 2
2020: Doctor Strange 2 (This breaks the 4 year rule, but there's no where else for it to come out so it has to be 2020 unless they're not going to make sequels and just put the character into other movies)
2020: Fantastic Four
2021: Spider-Man 3
2021: Ant-Man 3
2021: Deadpool 3
2021: Captain Marvel 2
2022: Uncanny X-Men
2022: Black Widow
2022: Fantastic Four 2
2022: New Character
 

MrKlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just randomly rewatching the captain America movies after Ultrib was on TV at Christmas. I generally like them (probably the strongest character series in the MCU, but they do irritate me in their setup

- civil war is based on the idea of having controls so the Avengers can't just do their own thing. They use clips of the New York attack etc to back this up. But the New York attack was from another planet and it wasn't like they could avoid damage? I guess the specific fight in the CW ooening could have been avoided - doesn't seem like an Avengers-level thing to deal with. But even there Wanda couldn't have let the bomb go off in the market as lots would have been killed

- why is specifically Captain America against the accords? After Ultron and arguing against Stark taking things into his own hands, shouldn't he be in favour of checks and balances? Is he against it just because the movie needs someone to be on he other side from Tony who is busy feeling sorry for himself?
 

Buttchin-n-Bones

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Just randomly rewatching the captain America movies after Ultrib was on TV at Christmas. I generally like them (probably the strongest character series in the MCU, but they do irritate me in their setup

- civil war is based on the idea of having controls so the Avengers can't just do their own thing. They use clips of the New York attack etc to back this up. But the New York attack was from another planet and it wasn't like they could avoid damage? I guess the specific fight in the CW ooening could have been avoided - doesn't seem like an Avengers-level thing to deal with. But even there Wanda couldn't have let the bomb go off in the market as lots would have been killed

- why is specifically Captain America against the accords? After Ultron and arguing against Stark taking things into his own hands, shouldn't he be in favour of checks and balances? Is he against it just because the movie needs someone to be on he other side from Tony who is busy feeling sorry for himself?

Your first point is fair, and it was the topic of a lot of discussion after CW released.

Your second point is entirely answered by Winter Soldier and Cap's own dialogue within the movie.
 

Cocamantis

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Oct 28, 2017
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- why is specifically Captain America against the accords? After Ultron and arguing against Stark taking things into his own hands, shouldn't he be in favour of checks and balances? Is he against it just because the movie needs someone to be on he other side from Tony who is busy feeling sorry for himself?
Because The Avengers would become a tool of the UN. He said it pretty clear: the UN is run by countries with agendas, and agendas change. He isn't against checks and balance, he rather is against the lack of decision making and being able to help who they think need it most.
 

luca

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Oct 25, 2017
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New Black Panther character bios have turned up on Toys R Us' website.

T'Challa
As the new king of Wakanda, T'Challa is struggling to cope with the loss of his father T'Chaka, but is determined to live up to his great legacy. When Wakanda finds herself beset by two enemies intent on the nation's downfall, Black Panther must use his new suit and heightened strength, speed and senses to defend Wakanda and the rest of the world.

More over on Comicbook.com.
 
OP
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Oct 25, 2017
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Just randomly rewatching the captain America movies after Ultrib was on TV at Christmas. I generally like them (probably the strongest character series in the MCU, but they do irritate me in their setup

- civil war is based on the idea of having controls so the Avengers can't just do their own thing. They use clips of the New York attack etc to back this up. But the New York attack was from another planet and it wasn't like they could avoid damage? I guess the specific fight in the CW ooening could have been avoided - doesn't seem like an Avengers-level thing to deal with. But even there Wanda couldn't have let the bomb go off in the market as lots would have been killed

- why is specifically Captain America against the accords? After Ultron and arguing against Stark taking things into his own hands, shouldn't he be in favour of checks and balances? Is he against it just because the movie needs someone to be on he other side from Tony who is busy feeling sorry for himself?

Did you notice in the first Cap movie he was breaking the law by faking his identity to get in the military, and then he disobeyed orders to go behind enemy lines to find Bucky? Did you notice in the second Cap movie that he expressed frustration at taking orders from Fury without full knowledge of all the details behind the operations, and then he immediately knew the hellicarriers were a bad idea when Fury revealed them because of the danger that they would be misused?

He's a moral guy who has issues with authority and we accept his rebellion because we know he's ultimately a hero who will do the right thing no matter what. He is remarkably consistent in this way across all these movies.

The challenge for him in Civil War is not the Accords; the Accords mean jack shit, that's just background noise. It's about him trying to hold on to the last shred of his old life, coming to terms with his friend who was made to do terrible things against his will, while trying to reconcile that with his new life with the Avengers.

We know the Accords don't really mean anything because as soon as Tony get's the big picture he immediately goes off the reservation to fight the other Winter Soldiers with Cap and Bucky. Tony operates from a different place than Cap though. He's paranoid, insecure, depressed, and he thinks he can fix everything but can't fix himself.
 

Bronx-Man

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Oct 25, 2017
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Merch for Black Panther drops TOMORROW. Movie drops in six weeks which means tv spots are about to flood the airwaves. I'm thinking we'll get a final trailer around the end of the month.
 

MrKlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
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The Kree awesome, thanks for that.

My daughter just mentioned that infinity war is out in the UK on April 28th. Seems very early and not long after BP. Is there another movie later in the Summer?
 

Wingfan19

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Oct 25, 2017
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New Rockstars put out a 16 minute Marvel timeline that incorporates all movies, tv shows, netflix shows, and one shots



Pretty rad and pretty HYPE!
 

ContractHolder

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Oct 25, 2017
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2020: Black Panther: Return of a King
2021: Black Widow


What? No. We're already unsure about contracts being renewed for certain vets. If Black Widow happens (and I hope it does), it has to happen sooner rather than later. Swap BP and BW in the first example. Give BP's sequel some extra time to be developed.

It's gonna be such a bummer if Spidey 3 is the last we see of the character.

Shhhhh, let's not think about that right now. We'll deal with that pain later.
I'm counting on a live-action Miles trilogy after the original with Peter as a mentor. Especially if Into the Spider-Verse does well.

I'm thinking we'll get a final trailer around the end of the month.

Nah, I think we're done with trailers for the movie. We're moving on to the Ant-Man and the Wasp marketing campaign at the end of the month instead.
 
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