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Kyoufu

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Oct 26, 2017
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It was probably my fault for expecting a movie similar to all Nolan's other non-Batman stuff, but I mostly agree. The "thing" they do in Dunkirk isn't nearly as entertaining as Interstellar and certainly nowhere near the level of Inception. I still thought it was okay, but was definitely underwhelmed.

I have BR preordered also. Did not see in theaters (like 99.9% of the population, apparently, based on box office) but have heard mostly positive things from folks who like the first.

Even if we forget about Nolan's previous work, I think Dunkirk, as a war film, is just lousy. It had no emotional impact on me unlike most other war stories and for that I think Dunkirk has to be Nolan's worst film to date.

Blade Runner however, whew, what a film. What. A. Film.

I hope you've seen the first one.
 

RedlineRonin

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Oct 30, 2017
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Even if we forget about Nolan's previous work, I think Dunkirk, as a war film, is just lousy. It had no emotional impact on me unlike most other war stories and for that I think Dunkirk has to be Nolan's worst film to date.

Blade Runner however, whew, what a film. What. A. Film.

I hope you've seen the first one.

Intersting. I'd agree on Dunkirk. Esp because I think back to things like Band of Brothers, and I absolutely loved it and felt emotionally invested.

I have seen the first BR, but it's right up there with Transformers for as soon as I have the Atmos system done soon, I'll probably watch that and then 2049. Have heard excellent things about Final Cut in 4K.
 

Vinc

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Oct 25, 2017
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Dunkirk was mostly filmed using IMAX cameras, with the rest being shot in 70mm.... it must look insanely good on UHD. I might need to pick up the disc... not the most rewatch-friendly Nolan film, but I'm a sucker for that kind of showcase quality.
 

Kyoufu

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Oct 26, 2017
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Be sure to watch the Blade Runner 2049 short films on YouTube first. Necessary viewing before jumping into the film.

Unless of course they're on the Blu Ray disc.
 

Kyoufu

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Oct 26, 2017
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I have to do homework? I hope this is included in the Blu-ray.

Blade Runner 2049 is mentally stimulating. It's not a popcorn flick like Transformers. Homework is essential for an understanding of the world they've built and bridges the gap between the first film and 2049.

The short films aren't long, like 3 minutes each I think.
 

LiK

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Oct 25, 2017
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Blade Runner 2049 is mentally stimulating. It's not a popcorn flick like Transformers. Homework is essential for an understanding of the world they've built and bridges the gap between the first film and 2049.

The short films aren't long, like 3 minutes each I think.

C'mon bro, I loved original Blade Runner. Don't need reasons. But I hope it's included with the Blu-ray.
 

Markitron

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Oct 25, 2017
12,510
Ireland
Dunkirk was mostly filmed using IMAX cameras, with the rest being shot in 70mm.... it must look insanely good on UHD. I might need to pick up the disc... not the most rewatch-friendly Nolan film, but I'm a sucker for that kind of showcase quality.
I watched it on the Sony OLED, it was like it was taking place outside the window. It is THE demo for 4K. With The Great Wall being the demo for HDR.
 

RedlineRonin

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Oct 30, 2017
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I watched it on the Sony OLED, it was like it was taking place outside the window. It is THE demo for 4K. With The Great Wall being the demo for HDR.

Nvm, was used. Is this movie really bad? If you told me that you wanted to do a Chinese fantasy movie and it would be starring Matt Damon, I would tell you "maybe don't make that movie. that sounds like a bad premise"

E: reminds me of that bit from Chappelle's show where he's talking about the Last Samurai.
 

Markitron

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Oct 25, 2017
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Nvm, was used. Is this movie really bad? If you told me that you wanted to do a Chinese fantasy movie and it would be starring Matt Damon, I would tell you "maybe don't make that movie. that sounds like a bad premise"

E: reminds me of that bit from Chappelle's show where he's talking about the Last Samurai.
Honestly, I thought it was a just fun action movie, it depends on how you normally enjoy these kinds of films I suppose. What I can say is that it is an AV 10/10 though.

From Bluray.com:
For this one, however, it ultimately comes back around to the color. The increase in depth and tonal accuracy is stunning. Every shade benefits, from the most dazzling blues to the most barren, earthy hue. Detail enjoys a fair uptick in sharpness and definition but the color makes this UHD what it is, definitely one of the best on the market and a reference point for HDR excellence.

And the presence of a white and hispanic character on the wall is explained relatively well FWIW, it's a major plot point.
 

RedlineRonin

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Oct 30, 2017
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Honestly, I thought it was a just fun action movie, it depends on how you normally enjoy these kinds of films I suppose. What I can say is that it is an AV 10/10 though.

And the presence of a white and hispanic character on the wall is explained relatively well FWIW, it's a major plot point.
Hmmm....

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Great-Wall-4K-Blu-ray/173843/#Review

5 star PQ, AQ, an Atmos track AND a 4K DI??

That's definitely worth a shot.
 

Dave_6

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sweet, I'll just wait till I get the disc then watch those first since I haven't seen the film yet.
 

RedlineRonin

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Ephemeris

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Oct 25, 2017
406
So TCL has released info on their P series follow up. It's now TCL 6 Series, looks to be a much nicer design, 65" set option with 120 dimming zones, higher brightness, better colors, etc...

Here is Verge's take:

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...l-roku-4k-tv-6-5-series-dolby-vision-ces-2018

I won't lie, 65" looks tempting for that likely under $1k price.

Edit: No HDMI 2.1 but then again this is a cheaper set. I was looking at Sony 930e but that's around $2K.

Was bummed they cancelled the 65 for the P series.

Might get the new 6 at 65-inch before waiting for the Rtings review. >.>
 

vivftp

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Oct 29, 2017
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Vincent is in love, he has seen Sony's 85" 8K 10,000 nits HDR TV


Can't watch the video yet as I'm at work, but is it really far outside the realm of possibility that we'll see Sony release a 4K TV with either these specs, or near these specs this year at IFA? I know we're still waiting for detailed specs on the 2018 OLEDs, but so far they don't seem to be a large generational leap over the 2017 models unless there's something I've missed. Since IFA will be 2 years since the Z9 series, I'm curious how far Sony will have progressed by then.
 

DangerMouse

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Oct 25, 2017
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I can't wait for next Tuesday with Blade Runner, such a visually stunning movie.
Yeah, it's gonna look sooooo good!

Also, really glad that the anime short 2022: Black Out is getting included in the set too.

Honestly, I thought it was a just fun action movie, it depends on how you normally enjoy these kinds of films I suppose. What I can say is that it is an AV 10/10 though.
Yeah, I thought it was fun too. I picked up the disc as well since I liked it and thanks to the gushing reviews. The video and especially those colors and HDR, man.

Optoma showed off a $1,499 FauxK projector. That market is going to be REALLY cheap soon. https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/08/optoma-4k-projector-with-alexa/
Nice.
 
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Arcadia

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Oct 30, 2017
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England
Man the stand for the new Sony 900F is hideous.

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ElNino

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Nov 6, 2017
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Nice! I feel like I've read positive things about SVS stuff over on AVS
SVS make good speakers at reasonable prices, particularly their subwoofers. I've had a couple of their subs, and I run a 5.1 setup with older speaker line in my family room. If you have a showroom/dealer nearby, they are really good with customer service and returning speakers for any reason within 45 I days (I think). If you email them with questions, it's also possible (likely even) that the president will respond with his opinions or advice on your setup.

When I was asking questions about speakers for my family room, I sent him a rough room layout and he gave his suggestions on what speakers would work best given it's not a room built to "Dolby reference specs" (like most rooms in your home). He even talked me out of speakers that would be overkill for my room. I would definitely recommend them based on my past experiences with SVS.
 

RedlineRonin

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Oct 30, 2017
2,620
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SVS make good speakers at reasonable prices, particularly their subwoofers. I've had a couple of their subs, and I run a 5.1 setup with older speaker line in my family room. If you have a showroom/dealer nearby, they are really good with customer service and returning speakers for any reason within 45 I days (I think). If you email them with questions, it's also possible (likely even) that the president will respond with his opinions or advice on your setup.

When I was asking questions about speakers for my family room, I sent him a rough room layout and he gave his suggestions on what speakers would work best given it's not a room built to "Dolby reference specs" (like most rooms in your home). He even talked me out of speakers that would be overkill for my room. I would definitely recommend them based on my past experiences with SVS.

That's awesome to hear. I'm huge on companies with fantastic customer service and long term support. Very good to know.
 

RedlineRonin

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Oct 30, 2017
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Minneapolis
Oh man! I just saw David Katzmaier tweet that LG's rollable display accounts for 21:9 content. So, essentially, it top aligns the content and then rolls the screen down part way. 21:9 with no black bars! So cool and smart!
 

ElNino

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Nov 6, 2017
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That's awesome to hear. I'm huge on companies with fantastic customer service and long term support. Very good to know.
Yep, it's a nice change from the typical retail experience. The first time I ordered a subwoofer from SVS, I placed the order at roughly 5 PM from my office and the local dealer called my wife at home 5 minutes later to ask if we would be home for a delivery the next morning. I hadn't even called to tell my wife I had ordered it yet.
 

cooldawn

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Oct 28, 2017
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Vincent is in love, he has seen Sony's 85" 8K 10,000 nits HDR TV

Chalk up another one in the fan club. Love this guys quirky humour and passion for the industry. Fabulous stuff. Although I'm not a aficionado even viewing on a SDR TV a subtle difference is viewable. I can imagine the actual difference is very pronounced. A few years away from being mainstream and very expensive, though, I'd have thought.

I'm still using a 40" 2013 LED set and I'm looking at the 55" Sony A1 on the basis of it's stunning design, it's sound technology and the overall view that, although not the absolute brightest, it's a brilliant performer. Perfectly balanced. I was going to upgrade when Gran Turismo Sport released but I thought I'd wait it out to CES 2018 just in-case. As it turns out it still looks the business, better that the Sony A8 for sure and is pretty much £1,300 cheaper than it was when it launched last year.

I'll be hooking up a PS4 Pro.

I guess if I do upgrade from a 2013 LED set to a 55" Sony A1 I'll get an appreciable difference, right?
 

Punished Goku

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Oct 25, 2017
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Chalk up another one in the fan club. Love this guys quirky humour and passion for the industry. Fabulous stuff. Although I'm not a aficionado even viewing on a SDR TV a subtle difference is viewable. I can imagine the actual difference is very pronounced. A few years away from being mainstream and very expensive, though, I'd have thought.

I'm still using a 40" 2013 LED set and I'm looking at the 55" Sony A1 on the basis of it's stunning design, it's sound technology and the overall view that, although not the absolute brightest, it's a brilliant performer. Perfectly balanced. I was going to upgrade when Gran Turismo Sport released but I thought I'd wait it out to CES 2018 just in-case. As it turns out it still looks the business, better that the Sony A8 for sure and is pretty much £1,300 cheaper than it was when it launched last year.

I'll be hooking up a PS4 Pro.

I guess if I do upgrade from a 2013 LED set to a 55" Sony A1 I'll get an appreciable difference, right?
I upgraded from a 2015 Samsung smart tv to the 65inch Sony x930e and I immediately \ noted the difference.
 

Madness

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Oct 25, 2017
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So the Xbox One S is still a bad UHD player?

It never was a 'bad' UHD player. But it is improved over last year. I think it still has the same colour space issues affecting the X, but the black levels don't crush anymore. I haven't had any freezes myself even when watching Planet Earth II, Mad Max Fury Road etc.

The good thing about having it in Xbox is the updates. How many 2016 and 2017 standalones will not be updated if some new titles struggle? I too however own a dedicated Sony player now bit the One S held the fort nicely until I had bought one.
 

LiK

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Oct 25, 2017
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I keep thinking my TV is off when is isn't sometimes and I feel like a noob. Lol
 

goonergaz

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Nov 18, 2017
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As someone going for an interview at Sony tomorrow, I'm struggling with this question that I think will come up...any help greatly appreciated;

"what are the benefits of Sony TVs other other brands?"

Whilst I can appreciate thier TVs and am indeed a big fan of Sony products (I used to always own Sony TVs in the old tube days), I'm struggling to think of any USPs or anything else to answer this question...it's not even like plugging in a PS4 will give advantages!
 

RedlineRonin

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Oct 30, 2017
2,620
Minneapolis
As someone going for an interview at Sony tomorrow, I'm struggling with this question that I think will come up...any help greatly appreciated;

"what are the benefits of Sony TVs other other brands?"

Whilst I can appreciate thier TVs and am indeed a big fan of Sony products (I used to always own Sony TVs in the old tube days), I'm struggling to think of any USPs or anything else to answer this question...it's not even like plugging in a PS4 will give advantages!
what's a USP?
 

TerryLee81

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Oct 26, 2017
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Chalk up another one in the fan club. Love this guys quirky humour and passion for the industry. Fabulous stuff. Although I'm not a aficionado even viewing on a SDR TV a subtle difference is viewable. I can imagine the actual difference is very pronounced. A few years away from being mainstream and very expensive, though, I'd have thought.

I'm still using a 40" 2013 LED set and I'm looking at the 55" Sony A1 on the basis of it's stunning design, it's sound technology and the overall view that, although not the absolute brightest, it's a brilliant performer. Perfectly balanced. I was going to upgrade when Gran Turismo Sport released but I thought I'd wait it out to CES 2018 just in-case. As it turns out it still looks the business, better that the Sony A8 for sure and is pretty much £1,300 cheaper than it was when it launched last year.

I'll be hooking up a PS4 Pro.

I guess if I do upgrade from a 2013 LED set to a 55" Sony A1 I'll get an appreciable difference, right?

Huge difference. The picture of the A1 will blow you away. And it's the best designed TV at the moment imho, with an actually usefull speaker.
 

Kyoufu

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Oct 26, 2017
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As someone going for an interview at Sony tomorrow, I'm struggling with this question that I think will come up...any help greatly appreciated;

"what are the benefits of Sony TVs other other brands?"

Whilst I can appreciate thier TVs and am indeed a big fan of Sony products (I used to always own Sony TVs in the old tube days), I'm struggling to think of any USPs or anything else to answer this question...it's not even like plugging in a PS4 will give advantages!

Sony's image processing and upscaling is a cut above the rest. especially with the X1 Extreme chip.
 
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