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Chaserjoey

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,637
Thought I wouldn't get anything more from the Beta, then I did gauntlet and leveled up Lightning and Y'shtola. A bunch of new chat messages and HP attacks for the both of them :O. Y'shtola's new HP attack even heals your party on hit which is just wow
 
Oct 29, 2017
4,515
UK
I've enjoyed the time I've played so far but I think I can't get anymore enjoyment from the beta. I want to get more treasure and I can't so the game is cruelly letting you build up gil you can never use...

Fun game, probably won't get it day 1. I'll get it whenever it drops in price. Oh and where can I get me some Dissidia cup noodle in the UK? I want suit Noctis. Now all this Y'Shtola has made me just wanna resub to 14, just in time for 4.2.
 

Chaserjoey

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,637
I've enjoyed the time I've played so far but I think I can't get anymore enjoyment from the beta. I want to get more treasure and I can't so the game is cruelly letting you build up gil you can never use...

Fun game, probably won't get it day 1. I'll get it whenever it drops in price. Oh and where can I get me some Dissidia cup noodle in the UK? I want suit Noctis. Now all this Y'Shtola has made me just wanna resub to 14, just in time for 4.2.
Will you be playing a US version of the game because Cup Noodles seems to be a US only thing. Noctis' DLC is retailer-exclusive to JB HIFI in Australia, might be the same in the UK.
 

Vishmarx

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
5,043
Is the HDR option making all look washed out or I'm wrong?
It takes a bit of work to make it better.
But yeah in general the game isnt made for hdr from the looks of it. Even when i got it right it still felt brighter than the game should look. Particle effects look incredible but imo non hdr is better. Only effects like summons and spells seem to be improved. Makes the actual lighting feel rather flat.
That said i dont think its washed out per se, that would imply muted colors. Which isnt the case for me.
 

Calliope

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,124
Detroit, MI
Most of my online matches have been just beyond laggy tonight, so I switched over to the gauntlet........and it's fun! There are definite shades of the PSP Dissidias there. I don't think it's robust enough to warrant a $60 purchase for just that reason, but it's something for those looking for an offline experience.
 
Oct 29, 2017
4,515
UK
Will you be playing a US version of the game because Cup Noodles seems to be a US only thing. Noctis' DLC is retailer-exclusive to JB HIFI in Australia, might be the same in the UK.
Nope PAL version. I hate random exclusiveness. Hell the other Dissidia games were this bad, a bunch of costumes just locked behind random game purchases. I'm expecting to see this eventually again for NT.

The stuff I go through to get my crappy FF14 cosmetics. I had to use ShopTo just to get a cloud mount, meanwhile US just had to use Amazon US like a normal human.

Amazon UK seem to have Nameless Warrior costume, Garland's claymore and a MYSTERY NOT YET ANNOUNCED THING. I think that might actually be Noctis' suit considering I think that was put up before Noctis was confirmed.
 

Chaserjoey

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,637
Nope PAL version. I hate random exclusiveness. Hell the other Dissidia games were this bad, a bunch of costumes just locked behind random game purchases. I'm expecting to see this eventually again for NT.

The stuff I go through to get my crappy FF14 cosmetics. I had to use ShopTo just to get a cloud mount, meanwhile US just had to use Amazon US like a normal human.

Amazon UK seem to have Nameless Warrior costume, Garland's claymore and a MYSTERY NOT YET ANNOUNCED THING. I think that might actually be Noctis' suit considering I think that was put up before Noctis was confirmed.
Yes that should be Noctis. The same three piece DLC deal is the one offered at JB HIFI.
 

Calliope

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,124
Detroit, MI
Nope PAL version. I hate random exclusiveness. Hell the other Dissidia games were this bad, a bunch of costumes just locked behind random game purchases. I'm expecting to see this eventually again for NT.

The stuff I go through to get my crappy FF14 cosmetics. I had to use ShopTo just to get a cloud mount, meanwhile US just had to use Amazon US like a normal human.

Ugh, the worst part about the Duodecim retailer exclusives were that they never went up for purchase. All these years later, and I still can't buy Cloud's Kingdom Hearts alt without forking over a fortune on ebay. If anyone even has one anymore. :(
 

Chaserjoey

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,637
The weird thing is KH Cloud and KH Sephiroth are available to purchase on the AUS PSN. It baffles me that they never went up on the other stores.

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Contranova

Member
Oct 26, 2017
457
NYC
So I finally got to try the beta, and as a big FF fan.. I have to say I find the mechanics a little bit too convoluted. Or am I just hoping for a simple brawler without all the bell and whistles? Is the experience just mine, or do others feel this way? I am just a bit frustrated about the whole thing, I literally had to stop a fight halfway as I didn't know what was going on...
 

Caim

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,499
Came across a bug that causes the game crash whenever you are editing EX skills.

Had this happen three times already.

This is on the full JP version of the game.
 

Chaserjoey

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,637
So I finally got to try the beta, and as a big FF fan.. I have to say I find the mechanics a little bit too convoluted. Or am I just hoping for a simple brawler without all the bell and whistles? Is the experience just mine, or do others feel this way? I am just a bit frustrated about the whole thing, I literally had to stop a fight halfway as I didn't know what was going on...
Have you done the tutorials?
 

thetrin

Member
Oct 26, 2017
7,656
Atlanta, GA
Had some GREAT matches last night with Hasemo, and my friend from Q Games. Ran a group of Shantoto, Yshtola and Noctis, and we maintained about a 75% win rate.

I'll probably be uploading a few of our best matches to Youtube later today.

So I finally got to try the beta, and as a big FF fan.. I have to say I find the mechanics a little bit too convoluted. Or am I just hoping for a simple brawler without all the bell and whistles? Is the experience just mine, or do others feel this way? I am just a bit frustrated about the whole thing, I literally had to stop a fight halfway as I didn't know what was going on...

It's got an odd system, but it's actually not THAT complex. Some of the characters have some crazy unique mechanics, but if you play a Speed or Heavy character, and go through the tutorial, there's not a TON to pick up.
 

Calliope

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,124
Detroit, MI
So I finally got to try the beta, and as a big FF fan.. I have to say I find the mechanics a little bit too convoluted. Or am I just hoping for a simple brawler without all the bell and whistles? Is the experience just mine, or do others feel this way? I am just a bit frustrated about the whole thing, I literally had to stop a fight halfway as I didn't know what was going on...

I'd suggest going through each tutorial, and take it slow. Don't progress to the next tutorial until you've committed the inputs from the one you're on to muscle memory. Try out a few different characters too. Your favorite may not be the one you're best with.

It will all sort of 'click' after a while. And then go online and wreck em. :)
 

Contranova

Member
Oct 26, 2017
457
NYC
Have you done the tutorials?

I did the tutorials but I'm gonna try and do them again. The problem for me was just once battle starts, the screen becomes too cluttered and it was hard for me to follow what was going on.

Had some GREAT matches last night with Hasemo, and my friend from Q Games. Ran a group of Shantoto, Yshtola and Noctis, and we maintained about a 75% win rate.

I'll probably be uploading a few of our best matches to Youtube later today.

It's got an odd system, but it's actually not THAT complex. Some of the characters have some crazy unique mechanics, but if you play a Speed or Heavy character, and go through the tutorial, there's not a TON to pick up.

Maybe it helps that you're playing with people you know? I feel like the whole party aspect would only work well in groups of people. Playing a single player with AI was not as appealing.

I'm willing to give this some time and I'm happy they released a beta for people to try. Not sure if I will pick up the final game (maybe after a while, and there's a price drop). But if anyone has suggestions and tips on how to get into the game, that would be welcome! I really wanted to love it...
 

Xevren

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,567
I did the tutorials but I'm gonna try and do them again. The problem for me was just once battle starts, the screen becomes too cluttered and it was hard for me to follow what was going on.



Maybe it helps that you're playing with people you know? I feel like the whole party aspect would only work well in groups of people. Playing a single player with AI was not as appealing.

I'm willing to give this some time and I'm happy they released a beta for people to try. Not sure if I will pick up the final game (maybe after a while, and there's a price drop). But if anyone has suggestions and tips on how to get into the game, that would be welcome! I really wanted to love it...

Getting used to the ebb and flow just takes time and you'll get used to it if you keep putting time into it. It's pretty fast and frantic but once you get used to the map and know what to look out for it's not so bad. I pretty much have only played solo and it's not so bad. I just try and make it a point to help out teammates more than anything if possible, try and cover your shooters etc. Between beta's I always liked watching arcade vids on youtube. My favorite channel is the one I'm about to link, he does a great job on analysis vids https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxXbv3RjFSXGQby1Ot_RV-Q/videos

I was pretty frustrated at first in the first beta, but it got better. Just a matter of if you like the gameplay enough to want to keep going or not.
 

Deleted member 34949

Account closed at user request
Banned
Nov 30, 2017
19,101
Ugh, the worst part about the Duodecim retailer exclusives were that they never went up for purchase. All these years later, and I still can't buy Cloud's Kingdom Hearts alt without forking over a fortune on ebay. If anyone even has one anymore. :(
I think SE's been on a bit of an upswing as of late, but I will still never forgive them for not even making KH Squall available to obtain at all in the US for Duodecim.
 

ZangBa

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,040
I just can't do it with this game. Everything feels so stiff and slow and sluggish. Controlling Golbez is like controlling a tank with no tracks. Nothing feels good in this game. I like the music tho.
 

Hikari

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,700
Elysium
Is the story REALLY that short? WTF. If it weren't for 1 v 1 this shite would be in the pile of shitty games. I just cant with this anymore. It's downright awful.
 

Osu 16 Bit

QA Lead at NetherRealm Studios
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
2,929
Chicago, IL
Man it's hard to wrap my mind around the movement. I never play games like this. I'm playing Lightning and I'm just ignoring RAV while I try to handle this much happening. Totally different skillset than a traditional fighter.
 

Loona

Member
Oct 29, 2017
611
Thank you! Cant wait for Kain.
Also the one thing I do miss about the PSP versions was the special battle intros characters had with each other. I wonder why they didnt do that this time around

I think something might apply between team leaders?
I took Bartz for a spin and an early fight was against WoL, whose line was a bit of a stab at his opponent's intelligence, which would fit how Bartz gets portrayed in these games - not sure if that's more generic than it looks, and actually gets said to other characters.

I picked Bartz even if it's probably a bad idea to start with a specialist character for the sake of bumping my odds of getting his non-Amano outfit - it's probably not how things work, especially in the beta, but lacking Shantotto or further XI character, this'll have to do for the time being.

Speaking of unlockables, I wonder how recent the Record Keeper/Opera Omnia/Piclogica icons get - not a lot of XI reps in those compared to some of the other games, but things got a bit better in recent times on that front...


Gameplay-wise, followed the tutorial, but when throw in a match I generally tend to hound a single opponent with Brave attacks until using the HP one for a kill is viable - it's probably not optimal, that switching targeting between opponents and summon crystals in a pinch can be tricky with so much to keep track of. I also miss multiple HP attack options, the current controls seem like they'd support that.


Nice to see one of the 4 Story scenes that can be unlocked is Shantotto-centric, given her general absence from main events in past games... I take what XI nods I can get here, considering ultimately this'll boil down to focus on the newer characters, crossovers like these tend to handle things that way...


Still not fully confident with going online - trying to clear the Basic offline route, but success can be punishing when you don't know your limits yet - my 1st victory against a Bronze opponent got me an A++ rank, then in the battle after that the 1st option was a Platinum rank, so of course I got trashed - after a few iterations, I might be a bit more comfortable with going only as far as Silver opponents, maybe higher when teammate characters level up a bit too.
 

Caim

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,499
You have to scroll to the bottom of the list to see the next bronze fight.

If you go any higher that will be the lowest difficulty you can do.

Playing a higher difficulty fight gives you more points as well more exp overall.
 
Oct 31, 2017
14,991
Man it's hard to wrap my mind around the movement. I never play games like this. I'm playing Lightning and I'm just ignoring RAV while I try to handle this much happening. Totally different skillset than a traditional fighter.

Is it just me or does the game automatically switch between COM and RAV?

If so, that's garbage

I just can't do it with this game. Everything feels so stiff and slow and sluggish. Controlling Golbez is like controlling a tank with no tracks. Nothing feels good in this game. I like the music tho.

I agree that the game feels quite slow and the hits don't feel as satisfying as the PSP games
 

Chaserjoey

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,637
I shouldn't have wasted the 9 treasures today. I should have left them for the third roster so I could at least have a chance for something for Noctis.

Hopefully it resets since nothing in the beta really matters.
 

Rellyrell28

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
28,987
You the one think that really does bug me a bit is that it says Broken instead of Break in the english version. I mean it was break across all version in the previous dissidia so why is broken now.
 

Smash-It Stan

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,279
Wow you basically never touch the ground huh? The demo for the psp game I remember having a ton more weight to it
 
Nov 3, 2017
2,223
Man it's hard to wrap my mind around the movement. I never play games like this. I'm playing Lightning and I'm just ignoring RAV while I try to handle this much happening. Totally different skillset than a traditional fighter.

Lightning without her RAV movesets is basically just a weaker assassin unfortunately.

Might want to consider a simpler character like WoL or Cloud while you get used to the general movement and flow of the game
 

Osu 16 Bit

QA Lead at NetherRealm Studios
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
2,929
Chicago, IL
I thought about trying a less complex character but she is too cool!

I also tried Terra. I find it awkward trying to move but do the neutral moves.
 
Nov 3, 2017
2,223
I thought about trying a less complex character but she is too cool!

I also tried Terra. I find it awkward trying to move but do the neutral moves.

Lol fair enough. Just keep at it then; when I first played I had no fucking idea what was happening, but after an hour or so, felt a lot more in control of my character and the match in general
 

Caim

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,499
https://youtu.be/5KBBf8EhA0A

Some gameplay of Emperor that I recorded yesterday, I wish the game just had a built-in replay option.

Curse Flare might be his best HP attack, its has great distance and moves really fast.
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,227
Mementos
I lucked out and got Bahamut as my summon.


Ugh, this is my first time hearing a moogle being voiced. I don't think I want it. I would think they would sound more cartoony.
 
Nov 3, 2017
2,223
Think I'm getting the basics of Lightning down. I really enjoy using her water and fire spells to force enemies into dodging, and catching them with either Thundaga or a melee attack

Really looking forward to seeing what high level play with her looks like
 

dragonflys545

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,422
New York
Really digging this game. Playing it with friends and coordinate can be extremely rewarding.

Is this going to have micro-transactions? I'm seeing a locked shop menu... Not sure if I can support that.
 

Hasemo

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,513
Tokyo
Really digging this game. Playing it with friends and coordinate can be extremely rewarding.

Is this going to have micro-transactions? I'm seeing a locked shop menu... Not sure if I can support that.
No, you get treasures from leveling, in the shop you buy stuff for gil. You can't buy anything with real money.