Well the DS reached insane numbers without any accessories either.
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Nintendo Direct mini January 11th (early 2018 games)
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Well the DS reached insane numbers without any accessories either.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS_accessories
And again, a home console is much more suited for accessories than a portable one.
I think people are missing my point here - I am not saying these titles (DOOM/Skyrim/FIFA/LA Noire) sold badly - they have sold decently for what they are and publishers are happy with sales as far as we know - they serve the purpose of broadening the library and genres available on Switch and are most welcome.
My point is that if Nintendo are RELYING on such titles to continue to attract a "hardcore" audience that will not be anywhere near good enough. If they can get day and date releases of huge titles like COD etc then that would be completely different
None of those accessories made the DS successful. My point is Switch doesn't need them to reach huge numbers (See also PS4)
I don't think anyone disagrees with that. If Nintendo plan to rely on third party games to attract and satisfy the core audience, then they need to have those day and date games lined up, preferably a good number of big ones, too. The contention to your post came because it seemed like you called LA Noire, Doom, etc. bad signs for the chances of third party games selling on Switch, which you clarify in your post is not what you meant.
It's not about "making a console successful solely thanks to the accessories", it's about being one of the reason as to why the Switch could have a massive audience. The Wii is the hard and cold evidence of that.
The PS4 is a completely different category. It's also not a particularly good platform for families and children.
Look at the past. Most AAA-Nintendo bestseller franchises have this easy-to-learn but hard to master gameplay loop. This was always Nintendos strength. These games are accompanied by games for non-gamers and for the hardcore crowd.
For example they could release Pokemon accomopanied by a Wii Sports game and some more hardcore stuff.
That's more booty than titty, so no poet for Switch
Agreed, Splatoon is great example of that I think. I'm not sure if comments like the one Kimishima made have been said of other systems than the Wii, though. It's always been expected that Nintendo caters a wider demographic than the other console makers, but if Kimishima now comes out and says 'we want to appeal to a non-gamer audience more' and this isn't something they have said about for example 3DS or other non-Wii systems, then that makes me think there's more to it than the standard Nintendo procedure of making games sutiable for many levels of engagement.
Then again, it could very well be that Kimishima's comments shouldn't be parsed this literally, and simply mean exactly what you mention. But this is why I'm so unsure of how to interpret this.
Yeah, I don't understand how one would think about Nier Automata when you hear "titties" lol.
My wish list:
Namco : New Ridge Racer or Ridge Racer legacy collection......please! Tekken, New Splatterhouse (it's been too long), Ace Combat
Square: New Super Mario RPG, Breath Of Fire, Front Mission
Ubisoft: New Rayman would be amazing! New Splinter Cell?
Yeh they've sold well, my doubt is that such titles alone will be enough in 2018 to drive hardware sales to a hardcore crowd (the strategy Emily was kind of suggesting might be the case). Hopefully we will see more day and date cross platform releases which as I said, is a completely different kettle of fish
I believe the Joycon IR Camera still has many unused ways of implementation.
Haha we would like it but, you know, we are talking of Nintendo... It won't happen. :(
It has plenty if you plug the camera into some other unpowered mechanical input device, they had a patent about it. I've no clue on what actual specific mass market implementations they could use, but I'm sure they'll have something in mind.
Considering you can play it on PC, eh. The developers already said that they were ready to develop it for Switch if Square Enix let them.
From SE I expect Nier Automata (Still thinking how are they going to do it).. + KH 3, however with a rather significant delay in release date in comparison with PS4/XOne releases. Also some other minor releases, not bothering to predict them.
Ubisoft: Steep, most likely South Park 2 games in one pack.. on top of that maybe some exclusive. Would not hope for a new Rayman.
Bamco: DBFZ, most likely we will get DS2 at some point if DS1 sells well, which is already given. Still waiting for those 3 exclusives from Bandai Namco that were supposed to be revealed at the beginning of 2018.
Also - I believe it has been said in the past, that around 20 UE4 games are being developed on the Switch.. do we know most of them already? I guess I can count like 10 easily, but not sure if I can get to 15, let alone 20.
Ubisoft: Steep, most likely South Park 2 games in one pack.. on top of that maybe some exclusive. Would not hope for a new Rayman.
Bamco: DBFZ, most likely we will get DS2 at some point if DS1 sells well, which is already given. Still waiting for those 3 exclusives from Bandai Namco that were supposed to be revealed at the beginning of 2018.
Also - I believe it has been said in the past, that around 20 UE4 games are being developed on the Switch.. do we know most of them already? I guess I can count like 10 easily, but not sure if I can get to 15, let alone 20.
Possible. But Nintendo talks about "new ways to play" since 1996. And Nintendo wants to attract children and non-gamers since the NES. The NES was marketed as toy and not as a gaming console. This helped the gaming industry to rise like a Phoenix.
And i am happy Nintendo started talking about the hardcore gamers again since the pre-launch of the Wii U. Sadly they mishandled the balancing act with the Wii U.
Kimishima is one of the old guys. He tries to handle the switch like a modern NES. So he believes in the core values of Nintendos traditional philosophy.
Can't imagine NA on Switch if PS4 struggles to maintain 60fps at 900p. Could literally be everything. Secret of Mana has a good chance. Older FF titles too but I don't know if Sony has some type of console exclusive rights to FFVII-XII and KH1+2 considering they were never released on a non-Sony console.
Cool post, thanks for sharing Emily.
Most interesting part remains the third parties. You know, Nintendo made several mistakes along the way, but here's hoping third parties will finally give a Nintendo platform a fair shake. With Doom, Wolfenstein II, Skyrim, L.A. Noire, Resident Evil Revelations and now Dark Souls appearing for the system we're already making several steps in the right direction.
Its a far cry compared to From laughing about a potential DS on a Nintendo platform, thats for sure.
Most interesting part remains the third parties. You know, Nintendo made several mistakes along the way, but here's hoping third parties will finally give a Nintendo platform a fair shake. With Doom, Wolfenstein II, Skyrim, L.A. Noire, Resident Evil Revelations and now Dark Souls appearing for the system we're already making several steps in the right direction.
Its a far cry compared to From laughing about a potential DS on a Nintendo platform, thats for sure.
Greatly Appreciated, but i get the feeling you're over correcting a bit.
(And looking at the reactions to last weeks "average" direct [not just for a mini, just generally speaking, we had full directs with less content in them] i understand that)
If they (over the year) announce Fire emblem + 1-2 high profile games for the later half of 2018 and maybe a smaller remake release (like Metroid 2 / Fire Emblem Echoes) people would probably be happy overall, because we already know about quite a view third party games, and most people didn't play the Wii U ports when they were first released.
Whats irking people more is
- the lacking overview WHAT is WHEN coming.
(The second half of 2018 is truly a blank slate, and even if they had a great '17,
'15 and '16 were rather weak, so some are still not convinced that they can keep it up) - some basic stuff is missing (whats with online, VC, Cloud safes, folders,
just a beefy OS Update after a year with features that are to be expected) - curiosity about their new ideas (accessories, smaller "out there" game ideas)
Yeah, they don't need to reveal everything, and revealing everything at the same time is actually a bad strategy
(smaller announcements get overshadowed), but a bit transparency on stuff like OS updates, online and what is
planed for VC would be appreciated.
(Like a low key blog post, "yeah, they're coming, expect them spring/summer")
I honestly don't think that many people expect way more than in 2017 from Nintendo, but a overall more rounded
package (OS, Online, indies, Third party, first party) since 2017 was mainly first party and indies.
I honestly don't care for the distinction between first, third or indie, but enough people do.
I also would really like for them to work it out with Yoyo games, but i get the feeling this won't happen, and I'm not sure who's to blame of the two.
(I just want Hyper Light Drifter on switch to be honest)
My speculation is in the form of a question:
Why the hell did Ubisoft do a last-gen remaster of an AC game for every platform except Switch? That seems bizarre. Like, not trying to port beg, don't even like the series... But it just seems strange that they're not trying to get the game on Switch at a time when the novelty of "omg, you put that game on the Switch?!" is still worth some sales on its own.
Why the hell did Ubisoft do a last-gen remaster of an AC game for every platform except Switch? That seems bizarre. Like, not trying to port beg, don't even like the series... But it just seems strange that they're not trying to get the game on Switch at a time when the novelty of "omg, you put that game on the Switch?!" is still worth some sales on its own.
I don't think so. I don't know if they would be able to port the game to the Switch properly considering that it was 900p at an unstable 60 FPS on the base PS4. So maybe 720p at 30 FPS would be possible but I don't know if you want to play a game like Nier at 30 FPS.
I want stuff from third parties like Mario x Rabbids that are exclusive to the system and validate the hardware for multiplatform owners. I'm petty sure Nintendo said they would be exploring similar situations where key franchises are farmed out to third parties for titles Nintendo aren't producing internally (Return of Samus is arguably a similar case), and I hope we see results sometime soon. Ports are all well and good and very important for those who want more games on the go or never picked them up on other platforms for whateve reason, but I personally don't hold much value in them.
Wait,so now the consensus is that there's probably going to be another Direct/batch of Nintendo announcements this week or the next?
Is this real life?
Also
Square: Xenogears remake
Namco: Xenosaga collection
Fuck it, TWEWY is receiving new content after almost a decade, everything can happen at this point.
Is this real life?
Also
Square: Xenogears remake
Namco: Xenosaga collection
Fuck it, TWEWY is receiving new content after almost a decade, everything can happen at this point.
How will Switch keep its portable features with Nintendo lauching accessories?
I think he is talking about games, not accessories.
I think he is talking about games, not accessories.
I would not call that a consensus.. there are some things pointing towards a probable direct.. but it is still nothing more than a prediction.
This is pretty much all the 3rd party support i'm expecting from major devs and publishers in the coming years:
Square: FFI-VI, FFXV Pocket, Mana Collection, new Mana title (exclusive), The World Ends With You 2 (exclusive), Bravely Default 3 or spiritual successor (exclusive).
Of their home console titles, i would only expect DQ and Dissidia, NieR:A at the very very best, but i don't believe it.
Namco: Tekken 7, DBZF, anime games, Tales of Remasteria (Vesperia pls!), DS2&3,
Capcom: Monster Hunter X2 / World X (exclusive), Megaman 12 (because you know 11 will sell well enough), Megaman Legends 3 Reboot, Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite, REvelations 3 (exclusive), REVII/REmake 2, Ace Attonery (exclusive)
Sega / Atlus: Sonic, Nagoshi's exclusive game, Persona Q2, SMTV, Devil Survivor 3, some new smaller budget RPG like Radiant Historia
Level 5: Layton Series (exclusive), Inazuma Series, Yokai Watch (exclusive), Ni No Kuni 2
Ubisoft: Steep (lol), Mario + Rabbids 2, another Nintendo collab. (Donkey Kong?), Assassin's Creed in some form, The Crew
EA: Sport titles
Warner Bros: Injustice 2, Batman Arkham Collection / Origins
Blizzard: Diablo 3, Heartsone, Overwatch (just tales out of my ass, i have no idea if the NS could run it)
Take 2: GTAV
Bethesda: Elder Scrolls Card Game, The Evil Within 1&2, Fallout 4, Fallout App Game of which i don't remember the name, DOOM 2, Quake Champions
Square: FFI-VI, FFXV Pocket, Mana Collection, new Mana title (exclusive), The World Ends With You 2 (exclusive), Bravely Default 3 or spiritual successor (exclusive).
Of their home console titles, i would only expect DQ and Dissidia, NieR:A at the very very best, but i don't believe it.
Namco: Tekken 7, DBZF, anime games, Tales of Remasteria (Vesperia pls!), DS2&3,
Capcom: Monster Hunter X2 / World X (exclusive), Megaman 12 (because you know 11 will sell well enough), Megaman Legends 3 Reboot, Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite, REvelations 3 (exclusive), REVII/REmake 2, Ace Attonery (exclusive)
Sega / Atlus: Sonic, Nagoshi's exclusive game, Persona Q2, SMTV, Devil Survivor 3, some new smaller budget RPG like Radiant Historia
Level 5: Layton Series (exclusive), Inazuma Series, Yokai Watch (exclusive), Ni No Kuni 2
Ubisoft: Steep (lol), Mario + Rabbids 2, another Nintendo collab. (Donkey Kong?), Assassin's Creed in some form, The Crew
EA: Sport titles
Warner Bros: Injustice 2, Batman Arkham Collection / Origins
Blizzard: Diablo 3, Heartsone, Overwatch (just tales out of my ass, i have no idea if the NS could run it)
Take 2: GTAV
Bethesda: Elder Scrolls Card Game, The Evil Within 1&2, Fallout 4, Fallout App Game of which i don't remember the name, DOOM 2, Quake Champions
Oh I don't think it's set in stone. It's definitely doable but I am curious what sacrifices would have to be made considering it runs rather poorly on base PS4. Maybe with better optimization they can do it.
Great post Emily!
Square Enix side I wonder if there is any truth to FFVIR.
Wasn't Nier A a lower budget job though? With more time and money behind it that game could've been optimized to be a much better running and looking game. I'm on the side that thinks Switch could run it at 30 with proper optimization time.
Kingdom Hearts is the obvious answer here. The 1-5 + 2.5 collection would be a phenomenal package on Switch.
Are you an insider? If so that means it's either Kingdom Hearts or Nier Automata.
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