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Street Fighter V: Arcade Edition |OT| Gone Gold
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Without knowing the full details of the other potential FM sources, I can understand people getting pissy about FM getting slashed. But reading comments from people saying things like, "I was able to get all of season 1 and 2 characters from just FM ect...." I was like yeah, I can see why Capcom might be trying to tone that down a little. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Agreed. I'm pissed with this bs, there's no way for me to buy blanka in the near future. And judging by the shin akuma event, I bet the golden soldier will be a gamble and won't be very rewarding.
Capcom showed how much total FM was earned during on of their presentations earlier, by overestimating the userbase at the time and dividing that total FM amount by that overestimation, the actual average amount came out to around 150k or so at the time. The folks who were able to get all S1 & S2 character for free are very likely an extremely small percentage of the overall userbase. Definitely nowhere near the average user's earnings.
I can absolutely understand them taking FM away from survival, story and trials (because new purchasers would be able to get season 3 and a good part of whatever season 4 is for free without much issue and they want people to buy it)
But cutting down the weekly earnings by half is ridiculous.
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Unless I'm looking at things wrong, with the golden soldiers and weeklies, we will come out ahead of the old way even with the main weekly halved. Or very very close. 3 weeks of golden soldier is 18,000 FM and 30,000 EXP. With the weeklies say halved : 3000 FM. So 9,000FM for the weeklies and end up with :
27000 FM and 30000 exp which is more FM for leveling up depending on the character level.
Edit: Oh wait...can you win the fm three times or only once...if once NM. Disregard the above.
27000 FM and 30000 exp which is more FM for leveling up depending on the character level.
Edit: Oh wait...can you win the fm three times or only once...if once NM. Disregard the above.
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There's one this weekend for 500FM per attempt with 2,500FM reward you can play three times, so that's a potential 6,000FM there. Of course there's the risk of losing FM too depending on the difficulty. Seems like it would even out to be about the same over time, but it's just going to take a lot more effort and with a risk.
They're just gonna reply to the backlash (if at all) with, "but if you win on your first try doing this this and this, you can earn so much more than before, so it's all much better now than it has ever been!"
and leave it at that
I don't think you'll get 2,500 FM if you win all 3, I think it's just 3 shots at a single payout.
Well for the current extra battle missions, you get EXP for each successful attempt. So it would make sense that you get FM for each successful attempt (max of 3 I think)
Fucking Capcpom, I am so angry right now I SWEAR. I now have to play this game MORE THAN ONCE a week.
yes you do. Which is why it's really diminishing returns after the first successful attempt for the current EB missions.
Yes, I did the Akuma one several times and got exp on each clear after the title.
If we do get FM for each clear three times with the golden boys, we come out ahead on FM...presuming you don't lose.
In SF 4 you could also get 4 costumes for $5 or the whole bundle for less than $1/character.
The upgrades added 4 new characters for $15.
There's a lot of stuff in SFV that requires FM outside characters.
Personally, I never got any DLC characters for free, i bought the seasona passes when they were discounted.
I used my FM to buy stages and Story Mode costumes and I don't have all the stages nor do I have even half the story mode costumes that were included on the disc when the game first launched.
People don't like when you take things away.
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I did the math.
Previously, there would 4 weekly missions. A mission with $100 FM, another with $500 FM, another with $1,000 FM and one last one worth $5,000 FM. That comes out to $6,600 FM weekly and $26,400 monthly.
Now we have 4 weekly missions with FM payouts (and the title mission). The payouts are $150, $250, $500, and $2,500 which totals to $3,400 FM weekly. So weekly mission amounts were lowered by a lot.
Let's consider the Shadaloo soldiers. The first solider (1/19 - 1/21) awards $2,500. And the third soldier (2/09-2/11) $5,000 FM. The second soldier awards 10,000 XP which we can equate to at least 4 level ups ($4,000 FM) for a new low level character at least for a new character like Sakura. (After completing their character story a new character is at level 8 where the level XP requirement is 1,000 XP. I believe after level 10 the XP starts increasing and gets to 2,700 XP at level 17 to reach level 18 so I think 4 level ups is a good assumption.)
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Anyway, here's what we're looking at in AE right now:
Shadaloo Soldier 1: $2,500
Shadaloo Soldier 2: $4,000 (give or take)
Shadaloo Soldier 3: $5,000
Weekly Missions: $13,600 (3,400 x 4 weeks)
Total: $25,100 FM
Before AE we had the following:
Weekly Missions: $26,000 (6,600 x 4 weeks)
Total: $26,400 FM
So basically Capcom is providing more activities for the player but the monthly FM payout is a little less than before. Not a huge loss but man this is still lame.
Previously, there would 4 weekly missions. A mission with $100 FM, another with $500 FM, another with $1,000 FM and one last one worth $5,000 FM. That comes out to $6,600 FM weekly and $26,400 monthly.
Now we have 4 weekly missions with FM payouts (and the title mission). The payouts are $150, $250, $500, and $2,500 which totals to $3,400 FM weekly. So weekly mission amounts were lowered by a lot.
Let's consider the Shadaloo soldiers. The first solider (1/19 - 1/21) awards $2,500. And the third soldier (2/09-2/11) $5,000 FM. The second soldier awards 10,000 XP which we can equate to at least 4 level ups ($4,000 FM) for a new low level character at least for a new character like Sakura. (After completing their character story a new character is at level 8 where the level XP requirement is 1,000 XP. I believe after level 10 the XP starts increasing and gets to 2,700 XP at level 17 to reach level 18 so I think 4 level ups is a good assumption.)
TL;DR
Anyway, here's what we're looking at in AE right now:
Shadaloo Soldier 1: $2,500
Shadaloo Soldier 2: $4,000 (give or take)
Shadaloo Soldier 3: $5,000
Weekly Missions: $13,600 (3,400 x 4 weeks)
Total: $25,100 FM
Before AE we had the following:
Weekly Missions: $26,000 (6,600 x 4 weeks)
Total: $26,400 FM
So basically Capcom is providing more activities for the player but the monthly FM payout is a little less than before. Not a huge loss but man this is still lame.
I hate the FM system and I suggest everyone to just wait a couple years for "Ultra" Street Fighter V where they will almost assuredly include all of the costumes and stages instead of wasting your time grinding them out.
The FM nerf feels like this is the first step towards phasing it out.
The FM nerf feels like this is the first step towards phasing it out.
I"m actually pretty impressed with the update, but with all of the fight money shenanigans, I wish Capcom would just simplify the entire mess by giving the player more FM per online win in casual and ranked.
I don't think they'll ever include all the costumes. They didn't add any of the extra costumes this go around outside the pre-order bonus.
I originally interpreted that as well but re-reading the blog post again it sounds like they're just referring to the number of attempts. The current special challenges - Shin Akuma and Wind Gem for the Rashid costume - only dispense rewards once so I'm doubting that the Shadaloo soldiers will be any different.
But it's 1AM and I'm typing this all on my phone while being very tired. I could've just misread the blog post the last time I checked (a few minutes ago.) If the Shadaloo soldiers do dispense rewards multiple times that'll be fine for us veterans but newbies who are having trouble with Shin Akuma and the Wind Gem challenge now (as demonstrated by posts in this same thread) probably won't get the rewards with every attempt. And that seriously sucks for them.
They included all of the costumes with Ultra Street Fighter IV though there was a set that was released like a year after the game had been out.
The EXP reward for Akuma can be done as many times as you like. I've done it at least five times.
That's also when costumes only cost $1.25 via $5 bundles of 4.
Consider this - the base game SFV was $60 and had 16 characters.
SFIV was $60 and had 25 characters and more modes *at launch*.
I'd say earning Season 1 for free isn't a big deal when it's still fewer characters than the base roster of vanilla SFIV.
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Oh and here are pre-AE and post-AE missions screenshots I have. (I figured screenshots of the interface before AE might come in handy.)
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Edit: I appreciate the clarifications. Please feel free to copy and update my numbers. I have to get up in 6 hours so I'm logging off for the evening.
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Edit: I appreciate the clarifications. Please feel free to copy and update my numbers. I have to get up in 6 hours so I'm logging off for the evening.
Yeah because there were only like 6 costumes for each characters
There are already some characters who have just as much or more than that game
They are never doing that
You will get like the story and battle costumes, and maybe the nostalgia set, and like some other special set and that's it
I kind of wish FM worked more like Siege, where less emphasis was on logging in each week, and more was on just playing the game. In Siege you get in game currency even if you lose, which means if you suck, there's still progress to be made. In SFV, it's a bummer that 100 (now 50) wins pays out the same as a dumb intractable stage challenge.
The costumes (well, everything) is tied behind the server being able to verify you own the content. I can't see a scenario where they won't release all of the content on-disc because while it may not be soon, the servers will one day go down.
Maybe you didn't see people complaining about the FM grind, look a few posts up.
If you feel the need to wait for that, you might be waiting for a very long time since it's pretty much a GAAS. It would be like waiting to watch the entire Star Wars Saga...until you are sure they won't release any more films.
And if we get the fm once for the soldiers, we come out very close. If it's three times we get even more.
It was directed at the people above complaining about the FM grind.
Well my post was directed towards them so it seems like you're wasting your time.
I'm not a fan of the system, but I'm not waiting two years to play the game. I want to play it now. I'll just miss out on free stages and colors if I run out of FM. I buy the characters with the season pass anyway, which I feel like is a decent value and on par with standard DLC character pricing. Also, I just don't see them doing a bundle with everything because they're making a ton of content for the game.
"Fight Money is great, you can earn everything for free! What other game lets you do that? Would you rather have to buy everything?"
nek minnit
"Well of course Capcom are toning down the amount of Fight Money you get. What, you expect to get everything for free?"
nek minnit
"Well of course Capcom are toning down the amount of Fight Money you get. What, you expect to get everything for free?"
I thought you were with them since you hate the FM system. My bad.
Getting FM isn't the enjoyable part of SFV. It's needed for stages and story skins though.
Didn't want to leave without responding. If you're right then that's $7,500 and $15,000 potential FM earnings. That would make a big difference in the monthly total.
Hmm, so maybe that's another 4 level ups per character (provided the character is around level 8 thru 17) and thus $4,000 FM per attempt. What's the entry cost, $1000 FM? If so then that's be around $3,000 FM in earnings. Not a ton but a couple successful clears would result in a decent chunk of FM.
Basically, there's more math to do. My rant might have been premature.
I do hate the system which is why I'm not wasting my time grinding out stages or costumes because I do feel one day they will be included.
I am purchasing the character passes along the way and anticipating an "Ultra" release. My point was to just not waste time doing something you don't want to but feel you have to do because fuck that, lol.
We won't know for sure though, until we can try the golden peeps. But I'm hopeful.
Never expect. Only hope. It not wrong to hope.
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