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Star Wars |OT| New Canon, New Forum [NO IX SPOILERS]
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I must admit I don't see the correlation between the movement of Kylo's scar and a lack of interest from Lucasfilm or Disney. As a fan of the two films they have released, they've showed me they really care about the franchise and pleasing the fanbase. As much as they can at least.
They're not involved with creative decisions though. It's like how Bob Iger doesn't tell Kevin Feige what Marvel movie to make next. Iger and co. trust Kathy Kennedy to manage Lucasfilm.
They've certainly showed us the biggest things that made Star Wars special, but I'm hoping they show us some new things in The Last Jedi. At first I didn't agree with people when they said The Force Awakens was basically the same story as A New Hope, but I really see it now. Hopefully The Last Jedi doesn't end up like that.
I'm hoping some new weapons, vehicles, and environments make it into the films soon. I think the films could get very stale if very little is actually added to the universe.
I'd agree there's room for improvement there, especially the ship design. None of the new ships introduced in The Force Awakens or The Last Jedi have matched the U-wing in Rogue One. It's the best new ship by far. You can tell they put so much time into getting it right.
In terms of environments, there looks like there will be a good variety in The Last Jedi. The crystalline caverns and red salt on Crait make for some interesting visuals in the trailers and Canto Bight will be the first time we've seen a wealthy metropolis since Coruscant. Ahch-To feels really quite unique to what we've seen in the previous films too.
Yeah that meta-jokey style for this first Luke story worked on me so well, I was 'chortling' with mirth. That bit "Have you heard that Senator Jar Jar Binks of Naboo and Lord Vader were the same person" was priceless.
And, I agree about From a Certain POV. First chapter about Raymus Antilles was great. Next 6 or 7 were all awful. The jawa story made me want to throw the book out a window. The next one where a rogue sandwoman finds kyber crystals on the same sandcrawler made me want to light the book on fire. I'll be picking the good chapters only for the rest of that book. From the podcast reviews I've heard that there are a few great ones; Qui-Gonn/Obi-Wan, another Obi-Wan, a Yoda, Bail and Breha on Alderaan's final moments, a good Tarkin one.
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just finished reading Lost Stars
5/5 book right there, very good stuff.
now to finish From a certain POV audiobook and i can finally start on Leia
5/5 book right there, very good stuff.
now to finish From a certain POV audiobook and i can finally start on Leia
Leia book was awesome. I became totally engrossed by it. I read that right after Rebel Rising, which was also pretty great. Started folding corners, underlining planets and names. My books these days look like charlie and his conspiracy
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it's a shame i can't do that with an audio book.Leia book was awesome. I became totally engrossed by it. I read that right after Rebel Rising, which was also pretty great. Started folding corners, underlining planets and names. My books these days look like this:
in other news, i've decided to sub one more month to audible and would like another book suggestion to use my upcoming credit on
Yeah, it was disappointing there was no SP, I'm glad they listened to fans and bothered to do a campaign this time. Hoping it's worthy of being part of the canon.
It's James Comey, the former FBI director of the U.S. He was murdered (fired) by Darth Dorito (president Trump) but has become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
This is a nice idea. It might make some more people aware of this thread.
I gave in Einchy. The first scene was worth it.
Read 5 chapters of Inferno Squad on my breaks today and really like it so far compared to Phasma. I liked Phasma to a degree but thought it was about 100 pages too long.
I can appreciate a good EP3 reference
What did you think of the TV spot?
I honestly thought it was as hypy as the other two. Partially because it just completely caught me off guard with it's fucking awesomeness
Oh I love it. It's what I was hoping the international trailer would be. A few more teases but it still feels like a lot's being held back. The marketing has been on-point for all three films so far.
Getting a better look at Snoke's throne room was a highlight too. Such a unique design. I'm looking forward to poring over the concept art for it in the artbook.
Just imagine man.
That moment.
When Rey inevitably steps into that room. Fucking chills
It's interesting they're doing the Rey & Snoke confrontation in this movie rather in the last installment of the trilogy like last time. This is perhaps the biggest sign we have that things are (hopefully) going to take a different turn than in the OT. I'd definitely appreciate a surprise.
Even with all this talk about her raw strength, I don't see Rey beating Snoke on her own. Maybe Luke sacrifices himself in order to save her and then they confront each other again in the third movie?
Even with all this talk about her raw strength, I don't see Rey beating Snoke on her own. Maybe Luke sacrifices himself in order to save her and then they confront each other again in the third movie?
Damn. I just realized that Snoke could die in this film. I wonder if this confrontation is happening because Kylo's going to be the main baddie. Maybe Snoke decides to kill Rey because he knows she's a threat and Kylo kills Snoke to save Rey, for some reason. But yeah I can see that paralleling too close to ESB, because then you have a "join me" scene.
To be honest, yes, I'd very much like for Snoke to die in this film. Not only would it be unexpected, but Kylo Ren is a far more compelling character and I'd definitely prefer to have him be the main antagonist in the next movie. Snoke's death - depending on the circumstances, which will most likely involve Luke - could have a profound effect on both Kylo Ren and Rey and it would be interesting to see how it'd influence their character arcs for the third movie.
Wow is that footage we haven't seen?!!
I'm so fucking seeing Thor
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Daisy Ridley is beautiful
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Honestly I was a little underwhelmed by the book because I was hoping for some meatier details about the post-ROTJ years. We got a little bit about Luke's adventures but I guess I should have expected there wouldnt be any big revelations considering the focus of the book. I really liked the Tide and exogorth stories since they added to the Force lore.
The Lugubrious Mote story was a waste that could have been cut though.
The Lugubrious Mote story was a waste that could have been cut though.
I'm not finished yet, but I went in with lower expectations in terms of meaningful lore just based on how the book describes itself as a collection of legends about Luke. There's a lot more meat in here than I expected.
So does From a Certain Point of View suck? I saw some negative impressions in here and that's next on my Audible list.
No I won't go as far as to say it sucked. I've read the first 8 chapters and listened to a bunch of podcasts give their impressions. I loved 2 of the 8 chapters I read, the first - about Raymus Antilles and the 8th chapter about Qui-Gonn written by Claudia Gray. From what I understand, there are several more great chapters in the book.
I can tell you that I absolutely hated the 4th chapter about Jot the Jawa and the 5th chapter about a sandperson who finds a freaking Kyber crystal on the sandcrawler. The other 4 chapters I read were just ok.
The parts I read are a little too meta on the nose with filling out details and kinda turning old old jokes and memes into semi-official stories.
I will definitely get thru the good chapters I've heard about first, and then maybe come back to this later.
The Luke book first chapter is great tho. It has the same kinda meta jokey meme type things in the story but it's being told by a conspiracy nut who basically sounds like us wondering if Senator Jar Jar Binks is the same person as Lord Vader and wondering about the differing accounts of Han Solo being the type of person who shoots first or not. It's poking fun at us and that makes me laugh way more. 2nd and 3rd chapters are some straight up really cool Force mystical hoojibbery that I've really liked.
I've only read two new EU books - Lost Stars and Thrawn. They were both good, but they could as well be a part of the old canon.
Whatever I try to read something about the 'core' characters of the series it just feels so wrong. I've tried to read Aftermath when it went out, for example. It starts with Wedge doing odd stuff, and I couldn't focus on anything because i've been reading the X-Wing books regularly for the last decade or two and seeing stuff that contradicts it is hard to swallow.
Do you guys have this feeling? How do you cope with it?
Whatever I try to read something about the 'core' characters of the series it just feels so wrong. I've tried to read Aftermath when it went out, for example. It starts with Wedge doing odd stuff, and I couldn't focus on anything because i've been reading the X-Wing books regularly for the last decade or two and seeing stuff that contradicts it is hard to swallow.
Do you guys have this feeling? How do you cope with it?
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You just get over it eventually, really. No different than any other alternate universe/reboot.
Haven't experienced it yet. So far I've only read Thrawn, Tarkin, Ahsoka, A New Dawn, and Battlefront: Twilight Company.
But that doesn't sound too promising. I've read quite a lot of the old EU books (including the X-Wing series) and if the new books contradict with the old ones, I'll probably skip some of them.
But that doesn't sound too promising. I've read quite a lot of the old EU books (including the X-Wing series) and if the new books contradict with the old ones, I'll probably skip some of them.
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There will only be more contradictions going forward as they flesh out the post-RotJ period.
Most people who read those books didn't notice them the first time around it seems.
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