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dark494

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Oct 29, 2017
4,556
Seattle
You can start augmenting gear after HR 50.

Basically, you need to start fighting tempered monsters. Unfortunately, in order to unlock augmentations, you need to get a weapon augmentation stone, which only seem to drop from tempered elder dragons. So, yeah, get to it!
Warrior streamstones can drop from level 2 tempered monsters, so you can unlock augmenting as early as HR30. Hero streamstones are level 3 tempered (elder dragons) monsters only.
 

thetrin

Member
Oct 26, 2017
7,656
Atlanta, GA
The game certainly got a lot more enjoyable since my last post. My roommate and I are making our way through the game steadily. I still wish the game had better UI and controls. Like why can't I just hold L1 and press a shortcut button? Why do I have to use a radial menu with an analog stick?

The game also sorely needs a "press select to get an explanation of what's on the screen" feature, since you basically have to resign yourself to looking basic mechanics up on a wiki.

The level design is probably one of the best parts. I really wish other games would design areas like this instead of just rendering a wide open plain and then sprinkling content around arbitrarily.

On a side note, I don't think I've ever encountered a more annoying character than the handler in the main story. Part of it has to be the English VA but her role in the story and dialog is just so cringey.

I look forward to hearing more about how you're getting along with the game.

As a long time Monster Hunter player, I feel like MHW was super hand holdy in the beginning, though not in a bad way, and it's been really interesting to see new players find it really obtuse.

Warrior streamstones can drop from level 2 tempered monsters, so you can unlock augmenting as early as HR30. Hero streamstones are level 3 tempered (elder dragons) monsters only.

I have not seen a single warrior streamstone drop from a non elder tempered monster, but that's good to know.
 
Oct 27, 2017
11,514
Bandung Indonesia
You can start augmenting gear after HR 50.

Basically, you need to start fighting tempered monsters. Unfortunately, in order to unlock augmentations, you need to get a weapon augmentation stone, which only seem to drop from tempered elder dragons. So, yeah, get to it!

Mannnnn...............................

Anyways, now that I have confirmation that normal bow shots can't cut tails (FML), can sever type weapons like Long Swords and Dual Blades actually destroy breakable body parts like horns?
 

Vuze

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,186
Praise be, for the lost child is near!
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Now here's to hope the Mind's Eye/Ballistics deco is close as well. I think I'm good after that.
 

Tenjin

Member
Dec 3, 2017
472
So yeah, we've figured out how the ritual deco tables work. Hurray. Too bad my next 40 tables are garbage. The ritual is so worthless, I wouldn't be surprised if it has the same properties as old charm tables, as in whatever seed you have may make it so you literally cannot obtain certain decorations from your rituals. inb4 next patch screws it all up

what wizardry is this? O_o ELI5, maybe?
 

SpokkX

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,495
So hmm I have to grind to level 50 before i can actually augment.. level 35 now and can´t really see any way to improve my character anymore

Where do you "augment"? How does it work?
 

thetrin

Member
Oct 26, 2017
7,656
Atlanta, GA
Mannnnn...............................

Anyways, now that I have confirmation that normal bow shots can't cut tails (FML), can sever type weapons like Long Swords and Dual Blades actually destroy breakable body parts like horns?

They potentially can, yes, depending on the monster. You can tell by the physiology tab of the Monster Guide. The three logos are sever, blunt and shot.
 

thetrin

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Oct 26, 2017
7,656
Atlanta, GA
So hmm I have to grind to level 50 before i can actually augment.. level 35 now and can´t really see any way to improve my character anymore

Where do you "augment"? How does it work?

I'm surprised you didn't hit 49 after finishing the story. Did you skip doing all the optionals? When I finished the story and finished the two post story assignments, I shot up to 52.

You augment at the smithy. Once it's unlocked, you can either augment weaponry or armor. Augmenting armor removes its previous upgrade cap, allowing you to upgrade its DEF further. Augmenting weaponry, however, adds one of five augmentations to the weapon permanently: Attack up, DEF up, Health regen, Additional Jewel Slot, Affinity up.
 
Oct 27, 2017
11,514
Bandung Indonesia
They potentially can, yes, depending on the monster. You can tell by the physiology tab of the Monster Guide. The three logos are sever, blunt and shot.

How should I understand the star ratings? I always assume that 3 stars rating for a category in a body part means that a weapon belong to that 3 stars category can deal more damage to them, yeah? Do they also signify the weapons' ability to break that particular body parts? Because I just learned that bows' normal shots can't sever a tail but there are monsters I believe with 3 stars rating for shot-type weapons for their tails (I am pretty sure about this, or am I imagining things?) so that means bows do increased damage to them but still, bows cannot sever them.
 

Rhaknar

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Oct 26, 2017
42,628
Continuing my Long Sword learning, did 3 Nergigante investigations (1 faint limit) since he seems good practice and I needed some parts for his Long Sword anyway.

Destroyed him 2 times, failed once because i got cocky and tried to kill him before he ran away and he ended up hitting me with the dive.

Anyway LS sure is more raw and visceral than Lance thats for sure. Still cant land the counter for shit, but at least I seem to have the helmbreakers down.

Made my sword too and as usual the Nerg weapons are the best looking ones. Decided to give it a spin in a Anja investigation since you need him for the weekly anyway and that shit was hilarious, just utter destruction. Fun.

Long Sword eats sharpness like a motherfucker tho, my bazel blast lance kept going green all the time vs Nerg.
 

Saya

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,972
I think grinding for a specific Hero stone is the hardest test for me yet. So far I got the Bow, Lance, and Hammer, but no SA yet :(
 

dark494

Avenger
Oct 29, 2017
4,556
Seattle
what wizardry is this? O_o ELI5, maybe?
Wait deco rituals aren't real RNG? Are predetermined? How does that work?
They just are. Some seed for your file determines what you get out of the rituals, and you can map it all out in advance (save scumming) and track your progress to only do rituals when you see decos you want.
So hmm I have to grind to level 50 before i can actually augment.. level 35 now and can´t really see any way to improve my character anymore

Where do you "augment"? How does it work?
If you do threat level 2 tempered monsters (rathalos, diablos, legiana, odogaron, bazel, lavasioth, uragaan, and all the variants), the HR30 ones, you can get warrior streamstones which are the rarity 6-7 augment stones, and that'll unlock it for you.
 

Grudy

Unshakable Resolve
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Oct 29, 2017
2,644
Looking for specific SOS investigations so I can use the hunting horn is a pain. Nobody posts SOS investigations for farming :l
 

Hyun Sai

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Oct 27, 2017
14,562
What def is recommended for them anyways? I think I have around 410 def. Been doing ok.
Yeah, post 400, very few things could one shot you.

Depending of my build, I'm between 475 and 515 Def without ingame buffs.

I think many don't know about the items you put in your bag (and that we can craft them and re-buy them) to improve Att / Def. One of our friends learned this way after beating Tempered Kirin...
 

Saya

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Oct 25, 2017
4,972
I think many don't know about the items you put in your bag (and that we can craft them and re-buy them) to improve Att / Def. One of our friends learned this way after beating Tempered Kirin...

Yep this is a very useful tip. Buy the armor and power charm from the shop, upgrade them into power and armor talons. Then buy 2 more charms so you can carry 4 things permanently in your pouch.
 

dark494

Avenger
Oct 29, 2017
4,556
Seattle
How should I understand the star ratings? I always assume that 3 stars rating for a category in a body part means that a weapon belong to that 3 stars category can deal more damage to them, yeah? Do they also signify the weapons' ability to break that particular body parts? Because I just learned that bows' normal shots can't sever a tail but there are monsters I believe with 3 stars rating for shot-type weapons for their tails (I am pretty sure about this, or am I imagining things?) so that means bows do increased damage to them but still, bows cannot sever them.
It's just damage. 3* means that type does the most damage there, 2* does less damage, etc. If a part can be broken, then any source of damage will also do hidden part damage when it's hit and eventually when that part's health is depleted it will break. In the case of severable-tails only, it tracks cutting damage only until it is severed.
 

Wamb0wneD

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Oct 26, 2017
18,735
Continuing my Long Sword learning, did 3 Nergigante investigations (1 faint limit) since he seems good practice and I needed some parts for his Long Sword anyway.

Destroyed him 2 times, failed once because i got cocky and tried to kill him before he ran away and he ended up hitting me with the dive.

Anyway LS sure is more raw and visceral than Lance thats for sure. Still cant land the counter for shit, but at least I seem to have the helmbreakers down.

Made my sword too and as usual the Nerg weapons are the best looking ones. Decided to give it a spin in a Anja investigation since you need him for the weekly anyway and that shit was hilarious, just utter destruction. Fun.

Long Sword eats sharpness like a motherfucker tho, my bazel blast lance kept going green all the time vs Nerg.
I find the workshop LS to be better looking tbh. But yeah, the Nerg weapons have a lot of effort put into them. I need 1 more gem and I got every lvl 8 LS.
I think the blue sharpness on the Nerg LS holds up really well compared to most others. But yeah, I got speed sharpening level 3 because of that (and because Gunlance is the worst when it comes to this so I have to have it anyway)
 

Ogawa-san

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Nov 1, 2017
1,686
I switched to lance for a bit to break the boredom of endlessly farming Teostra for a gem. How do you go back to other weapons after seeing the light that's counter blocking?
 

Durden

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Oct 25, 2017
12,511
Picked this up tonight with a friend, and I gotta say, I'm a little disappointed.

I've tried to get into MH a few times, I really like the concept. But there's a lot to it that feels pretty unapproachable to me. I know there's a really good game under that, which I have enjoyed myself in MH4 and a little Tri, but still. From what I heard, I thought this game was supposed to have nipped a lot of that in the bud.

But man, there's still a lot of shit. Me and my friend both got it at the same time, and assumed we could just play it online together. Nope. Some weird-ass rules are keeping us from playing missions together. I assumed that the inventory and looting system would he more streamlined, but not really. The game still throws just a ton of items and shit at you with no real distinction. I thought that tutorials would be better. But nah, they're just a lot of text saying stuff that's sometimes really hard to wrap your head around if you're not a vet.

We're gonna keep playing, but I just really hoped this would be the one that made me feel more comfortable with MH''s systems. I'm not asking it to sacrifice anything that it is, I just wish there was a way they could make it more appealing to people that wanna just decide if they like the gameplay first, and go from there. And shit like the online stuff is just straight dumb.
 

dark494

Avenger
Oct 29, 2017
4,556
Seattle
Some weird-ass rules are keeping us from playing missions together.
Like? There's absolutely nothing stopping you 2 from playing missions together unless you're on different consoles. If you're talking about cutscenes, you just have to go and watch them and then you can SOS flare or go back to town and join up then.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,125
Taiwan
Like? There's absolutely nothing stopping you 2 from playing missions together unless you're on different consoles. If you're talking about cutscenes, you just have to go and watch them and then you can SOS flare or go back to town and join up then.

In MHW they made it where if one hand seen the cutscene they can't do start it together. Sucks but it's annoying. So it both haven't seen it, they both have to start it and watch it.

Then one abandons the quest to join the other one that sends the SOS.
 

dark494

Avenger
Oct 29, 2017
4,556
Seattle
In MHW they made it where if one hand seen the cutscene they can't do start it together. Sucks but it's annoying. So it both haven't seen it, they both have to start it and watch it.

Then one abandons the quest to join the other one that sends the SOS.
Yes that's exactly what I said. Go watch the cutscene and then you can join with your friend. Simple as that
 

Chainshada

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,642
Damn that was satisfying, finally managed to get Negigante down without fainting, had plenty of Elder Dragon parts so just made a piece for each slot then upgraded them as far as they could go, they're all over the place though..But it saved me from fainting multiple times from that big wind-up. Also got rid of my Perfect Alloy II (640 attack, 420 poison) and swapped in Axe of Demons (805 attack, -30% affinity, 180 Ice). Was expecting to be in for a bit of a farm for the 2 Xeno Tails, got 4 from the 1st fight.
 

CampFreddie

A King's Landing
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Oct 25, 2017
2,959
... I believe with 3 stars rating for shot-type weapons for their tails (I am pretty sure about this, or am I imagining things?) so that means bows do increased damage to them but still, bows cannot sever them.

To answer your original question, you can generally smash horns with swords (not sure about bullets/arrows but they probably work).
I think there might be some some odd exceptions (Barroth's head needs a blunt weapon?)

But here's my question:
For severing tails, do you need to do 'X' sever damage to the tail - or do you need to do 'X' general damage to the tail and use sever damage in a final blow?
I've heard people talk about using the hunting horn pommel-stab to sever a tail (or even things like boomerangs) because they do slicing damage. I assume you don't need to keep whacking the tail with only pommel-stabs, but this is the internet where hardcore motherfuckers are hadokening Nergigante to death so...

I've been trying the CB recently. It feels a bit frustrating since it's just constantly using the charge sword move/combo to get phials.
Hunting horn is surprisingly awesome though despite having few actual moves. Giving people earplugs for listening to my songs feels unintentionally hilarious. I also thing that all RPG bard classes should allow you to bludgeon the enemy with your instrument.
 

deoee

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Oct 25, 2017
454
Like? There's absolutely nothing stopping you 2 from playing missions together unless you're on different consoles. If you're talking about cutscenes, you just have to go and watch them and then you can SOS flare or go back to town and join up then.
Only thing that sucks if the game throws you into story expeditions like "find a campsite" which then changes to "kill monster xyz".

You're on your own except you leave the quest and post the new assigned one.
 

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What cures the Vaal Hazak blight/status effect? Currently farmin him for the armour and dragon bow but i for the life of me can't find out what cures it. A decreased life bar sure is annoying.
 

Saya

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Oct 25, 2017
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There seems to be only one level of elementless gem? Does it stack? Or would equipping more than one be unnecessary?

What cures the Vaal Hazak blight/status effect? Currently farmin him for the armour and dragon bow but i for the life of me can't find out what cures it. A decreased life bar sure is annoying.

Nulberries.
 

Ys45

Member
Oct 25, 2017
463
Xeno Jiiva is down ! is it me or this monster is just annoying?
I was using lance and at first, had no problem but then he started to do explosion which I could not block and then he starts flying and shoot unblockable laser .

I ended up switching to bow after getting carted 2 times -_-
Was under 10 minutes when I got him lol.

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Bessy67

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Oct 29, 2017
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It kinda sucks that in a game where multiplayer should be a focus they made it so much easier to do everything solo. Monsters are so much weaker if you go alone, parts are easier to break, you get a ton more money and you don't have to worry about randoms using all the revives. I hardly ever launch SOS flares in my investigations because I'd rather have an easier time and maximize my rewards
 
Oct 26, 2017
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100 hours later I just discovered yesterday there are amulets that improve attack and defense just by carrying them sold by the provisioner and that the defense and attack buffing drinks last until you faint. I have been robbing myself of defense and attack this whole time!!! Any other cant miss items or potions I should be using at the start of every quest?

Also I went ahead and made the Garon Dhara II lance with Bazel helmet, chest plate, and coil, Teostra arms and Uragaan greaves. Gives me Earplugs 5 with jewel, weakness exploit 2, guard 4, and a elementless jewel. And it is a lot of fun. I need more slots though, guess post level 50 would help with that with augmentations?
 

LiK

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Oct 25, 2017
32,115
Arena was pretty easy. Did all of them in one session with a buddy. We got all B's first try so not bad especially for the last one where it was my first time using a Lance. I got the full Chaos Guild set and I added the Brigade hat and my lady looks so damn cool now. Def using this outfit with DB. The outfit reminded me of AoT, lol
 

Mupod

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Oct 25, 2017
5,882
It kinda sucks that in a game where multiplayer should be a focus they made it so much easier to do everything solo. Monsters are so much weaker if you go alone, parts are easier to break, you get a ton more money and you don't have to worry about randoms using all the revives. I hardly ever launch SOS flares in my investigations because I'd rather have an easier time and maximize my rewards

On the one hand I like that all the content has a 'solo-balanced' version. I've always done as much solo as multiplayer if not more. In 4U for example I loved that they gave you a few unlockable solo-mode g-rank monsters to do some quick farming if you wanted to, and now I can do that with everything.

But for example right now I need a few more HR Kirins and doing that multiplayer is a waste of time and my ammo/bombs. I can do it way faster and safer alone, which is kinda silly. And as someone who likes to hop in and help people do stuff, I shouldn't have to worry that I'm making someone's game harder by joining up. I understand that part breaks and staggers need to be a lot tougher in multiplayer but it's absurd sometimes. Try breaking Nergigante's head spikes with a hunting horn in a duo compared to alone.
 

Ferrs

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Oct 26, 2017
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There seems to be only one level of elementless gem? Does it stack? Or would equipping more than one be unnecessary?

It has one element so you souldn't be able to stack them (I only have 1 jewel but well this is how it works for the rest so..). Makes sense ebcause it would make raw weapons so OP.
 

LiK

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Oct 25, 2017
32,115
I think MHW has done a pretty good job with the way MP works in terms of raising the difficulty. Not just more HP for monsters but the fact that people share Faints really makes it a more riskier proposal for SOSing people to help with tough monsters. Tempered Kirin was the first monster where I decided to just solo it after joining other games where people kept getting carts. If they could somehow improve the drop-in drop-out aspect then it would be waaayyyy better.
 

Grudy

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Oct 29, 2017
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Is there a reason the Bazel Horn is considered the best when some other horns like the Gama one which has Defense XL, Attack XL, Health Boost XL and health rec (s)? It seems like a much superior set over the Bazel one where I don't usually notice the effects of health recovery L that much.
 

Hybris

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Oct 25, 2017
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But here's my question:
For severing tails, do you need to do 'X' sever damage to the tail - or do you need to do 'X' general damage to the tail and use sever damage in a final blow?
I've heard people talk about using the hunting horn pommel-stab to sever a tail (or even things like boomerangs) because they do slicing damage. I assume you don't need to keep whacking the tail with only pommel-stabs, but this is the internet where hardcore motherfuckers are hadokening Nergigante to death so...
Only cutting damage contributes. I've noticed 2nd gen players getting confused about this and spreading outdated info causing further confusion... In 2nd gen monster hunter you could deal any damage to the tail then do a final cutting hit to sever it, but this hasn't be the case for any monster hunter game afterwards. People usually say stuff like hunting horn can sever tails because it's technically correct, however no one in their right mind would ever try to do this in a practical farming situation because it's not practical at all.
 

LiK

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Oct 25, 2017
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My most successful tail cuts involve using the Bow (Dragon Piercer up their ass) or using the Long Sword.
 
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