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criteriondog

I like the chili style
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Oct 26, 2017
11,183
That was such a bad first impression!
I cannot believe I died three times within the first five minutes, holy shit.
 

RiderKairuu

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Oct 25, 2017
1,083
My friends and I encountered the drunkest Teostra tonight. Slow down on them hot drinks, baby.
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DrArchon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,485
White Winds down. Would've beat it without carting if I hadn't gotten greedy and fucked up a guard point when I had 30% health. Almost feel like giving it another go to see if I can't do it perfectly (even though I know I can).

Wasn't expecting
congratulations from every NPC in Astera. Probably spent more timing listening to all of them then I spent on the mission!
 

Geist 6one7

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Oct 29, 2017
4,383
MASS
It's still possible to launch people who don't know where they are. I do it every time some dumbass is at the head when he shouldn't be. I actually prioritize it over doing damage.
Yeah I like to lead with a level 2 charge when there's a crowd. The worst is when you get in first and then two LS/DS players come in stunlocking you after the fact.
 

Weltall Zero

Game Developer
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
19,343
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If I understood correctly, it's like this (I can't even do rituals yet and I don't think I'll save scum, but people seem confused and I think I got it):
1) There's a fixed list of decorations (or at least semi-fixed, pre-generated, whatever).
2) Doing the ritual gives you the current decoration, then advances to the next slot in the list.
3) Doing a quest advances either one or two slots (without giving the current decoration, obviously).

If it advances two slots, then you know the next quests will advance only one slot. The one after that will also advance one slot, then the next one will advance two slots; rinse and repeat.

So let's say you spent all your materials doing rituals and you got decorations in this order:
A->B->C->D->E->F->G->H
You then reset the save game to before you started crafting.
You know that the next decoration you would get is A (it's the first one you got, and you reset the save). After that, you would get B, etc. If you instead do a mission, that skips one or two slots; so if you then do a ritual, you could either get B (you skipped to the next slot) or C (you skipped two slots).

Let's say it actually skipped two slots; that is, you did a single quest, and the next ritual gave you C. You now know the next two quest you do will advance the table by one spot each, and the third will again advance two spots. Since, by doing the ritual, you got C and advanced to D, that means the next quest will skip to E, the next to F, and the next one to H (skip two spots).
 
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RaySpencer

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Oct 27, 2017
4,669
I captured a Tempered Pink Rathian
I captured a Tempered Odogaron
I captured a Tempered Diablos
I captured a Tempered Uragaan
I captured a Tempered Bazelguese

Where is my quest you stupid game! haha.
 

Numb

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Oct 25, 2017
9,246
Doing the superman dive on Teo nova while you have it centre camera is like an action movie
 

Mechaplum

Enlightened
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Oct 26, 2017
18,848
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I don't really know, or care. Elements and status are fun. The monsters all die far too easily regardless, so min/maxing is unnecessary. I check to see what my target is weak against, and forge gear with a certain strategy in mind. It's gotten me 200 hours of fun out of the game so far.

Meanwhile, the raw damage eyepatch diablos wearing, save scumming, chart studying dudes are complaining about the "end game" while doing nothing but farming for a specific jewel.

Insect Glaive is very mobile. For some hunts, I rarely even touch the ground!

Well I don't really min/max myself never have because fashion hunter is best hunter. However I do see why there are many players who thrive on it and get a lot of fun from theorycrafting.

IG indeed is very fun, only issue is that it's quite lackluster when you're not in the air.
 

dark494

Avenger
Oct 29, 2017
4,564
Seattle
If I understood correctly, it's like this (I can't even do rituals yet and I don't think I'll save scum, but people seem confused and I think I got it):
1) There's a fixed list of decorations (or at least semi-fixed, pre-generated, whatever).
2) Doing the ritual gives you the current decoration, then advances to the next slot in the list.
3) Doing a quest advances either one or two slots (without giving the current decoration, obviously).

If it advances two slots, then you know the next quests will advance only one slot. The one after that will also advance one slot, then the next one will advance two slots; rinse and repeat.

So let's say you spent all your materials doing rituals and you got decorations in this order:
A->B->C->D->E->F->G
You then reset the save game to before you started crafting.
You know that the next decoration you would get is A (it's the first one you got, and you reset the save). After that, you would get B, etc. If you instead do a mission, that skips one or two slots; so if you then do a ritual, you could either get B (you skipped to the next slot) or C (you skipped two slots).

Let's say it actually skipped two slots; that is, you did a single quest, and the next ritual gave you C. You can then lay out the 1-1-2 pattern below the decoration list, like this:
A->B->C->D->E->F->G
2->1->1->2->1->1->2

What this represents is that doing a single quest will skip from A to C. This also means that doing a single quest when the next decoration would be D, will also skip 2 places (to F), and so on. Doing a single quest at any of these points would land you like this:
A->C (skip 2)
B->C
C->D
D->F (skip 2)
E->F
F->G
Incidentally, the implication above is that you can't get decoration B without also doing the ritual to get A (doing a quest instead would skip right over it), and converselly you can't get E without also getting D.

Please correct me if any of this is wrong. I'm off to much needed sleep. :D
Almost, if I'm reading this right. The only thing I have to add is that the skip is not tied to any ritual table, it is a global quest counter the game itself is keeping track of behind the scenes. So like for example, if you're counter is set to skip 2 on your next quest, it doesn't matter if you do it now or go do 4 rituals and then do it. If you did none, you will skip 2, from A to C. If you did 4 rituals and are now at E, you will skip 2, from E to G.
 

Larrikin

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,747
Question for experienced players, what was the first time you actually failed a mission in this game? My first was when I got to high-rank Anjanath and forgot my armour set had -9 Fire Resistance, but apart from that I've actually never lost a mission and I'm just about to take on Nergigante. I hear terrifying things about some of the later monsters like Kirin, and especially Tempered monsters. But In general if I prepare well and play smart I've generally been able to overcome. Will that change dramatically? Is this about standard?
 

criteriondog

I like the chili style
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Oct 26, 2017
11,183
Oh my god thank you guys!
You three who I talked to (my character was sehsumeh/psn bluewindx) were pretty funny.
Sucks I can't play till thursday, but I got a lot of near-finals like papers due soon, so MHW will be on hold for a few days. Unless I get on super late.
Thanks again!
 

Deleted member 36578

Dec 21, 2017
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Question for experienced players, what was the first time you actually failed a mission in this game? My first was when I got to high-rank Anjanath and forgot my armour set had -9 Fire Resistance, but apart from that I've actually never lost a mission and I'm just about to take on Nergigante. I hear terrifying things about some of the later monsters like Kirin, and especially Tempered monsters. But In general if I prepare well and play smart I've generally been able to overcome. Will that change dramatically? Is this about standard?

I've been playing mh since tri so I'm pretty seasoned. Odogaron was my first triple cart in this game. He bled me dry. If you're well prepared for the elder dragons and know what they're capable of you'll be fine. I'd say this is generally the easiest monster hunter, but that may just be because I'm used to the series.
 

Larrikin

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I've been playing mh since tri so I'm pretty seasoned. Odogaron was my first triple cart in this game. He bled me dry. If you're well prepared for the elder dragons and know what they're capable of you'll be fine. I'd say this is generally the easiest monster hunter, but that may just be because I'm used to the series.
The only thing I know about the elder dragons is that one of them is a wind-machine, but I'm assuming that Hunting Horn with Wind Pressure Negate will deal with that fairly handily so I'm not too scared of him. The rest I know nothing about. Would you recommend doing research first, or does that diminish the experience of seeing these guys in game for the first time?

Not surprised this is the easiest monster hunter, but I'm still glad it's not *easy*. Here's hoping that DLC and expansions will keep this game alive for a while to come.
 

Deleted member 36578

Dec 21, 2017
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Oh my god thank you guys!
You three who I talked to (my character was sehsumeh/psn bluewindx) were pretty funny.
Sucks I can't play till thursday, but I got a lot of near-finals like papers due soon, so MHW will be on hold for a few days. Unless I get on super late.
Thanks again!

Glad we could help ya! I actually like the kirin fight a lot. Now that you're in the era squad regardless of when you hop online, there's generally somebody in the lobby to party up with.
 

Deleted member 36578

Dec 21, 2017
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The only thing I know about the elder dragons is that one of them is a wind-machine, but I'm assuming that Hunting Horn with Wind Pressure Negate will deal with that fairly handily so I'm not too scared of him. The rest I know nothing about. Would you recommend doing research first, or does that diminish the experience of seeing these guys in game for the first time?

Not surprised this is the easiest monster hunter, but I'm still glad it's not *easy*. Here's hoping that DLC and expansions will keep this game alive for a while to come.

I actually like going in blind , but that's just me :p
 

KushalaDaora

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Oct 27, 2017
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Question for experienced players, what was the first time you actually failed a mission in this game? My first was when I got to high-rank Anjanath and forgot my armour set had -9 Fire Resistance, but apart from that I've actually never lost a mission and I'm just about to take on Nergigante. I hear terrifying things about some of the later monsters like Kirin, and especially Tempered monsters. But In general if I prepare well and play smart I've generally been able to overcome. Will that change dramatically? Is this about standard?

My first fail is because I killed the monster in a capture quest, the minimap doesn't show the skull icon so I though it's still not weak enough :(

Kirin actually can be found in Low Rank ! Tbh only Tempered Kirin really a cancer...
 

DrArchon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,485
Question for experienced players, what was the first time you actually failed a mission in this game? My first was when I got to high-rank Anjanath and forgot my armour set had -9 Fire Resistance, but apart from that I've actually never lost a mission and I'm just about to take on Nergigante. I hear terrifying things about some of the later monsters like Kirin, and especially Tempered monsters. But In general if I prepare well and play smart I've generally been able to overcome. Will that change dramatically? Is this about standard?
First fail was probably a capture quest where I killed the target.

First fail due to carting was against Tempered Negigante with a 2 cart limit.

This is not a hard game if you know what you're doing and play it safe.
 

Edible

Member
Nov 20, 2017
24
So I have a bit of the problem here...

I have a US PSN account and then I moved to Japan. The MHW copy I bought was of Japanese region but comes with all other language localization.
I ended up playing MHW on a Japanese disc, in English, with US PSN account, on a PS4 I bought in Japan.

My problem came up when I try to download the free dlcs.
I can download them when access directly from PS Store outside the game. but I can't see the downloaded dlcs in game.
I can try to access the store via MHW title menu, but it would just say the store is not ready.
Seems like the region of the MHW store is bounded to disc instead of to the account and it's stupid.
Does this even happen to other games when being played on a disc from another region?

TBH I wouldn't careless about the prancing and sumo emotes, I just don't wanna miss Deviljho....
 

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So I have a bit of the problem here...

I have a US PSN account and then I moved to Japan. The MHW copy I bought was of Japanese region but comes with all other language localization.
I ended up playing MHW on a Japanese disc, in English, with US PSN account, on a PS4 I bought in Japan.

My problem came up when I try to download the free dlcs.
I can download them when access directly from PS Store outside the game. but I can't see the downloaded dlcs in game.
I can try to access the store via MHW title menu, but it would just say the store is not ready.
Seems like the region of the MHW store is bounded to disc instead of to the account and it's stupid.
Does this even happen to other games when being played on a disc from another region?

TBH I wouldn't careless about the prancing and sumo emotes, I just don't wanna miss Deviljho....

Yep, dlc is almost always region specific.
 

Zing

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
1,771
In just one evening, I was rewarded with seven warrior/hero stones. Three of them are warrior stones for bowgun. You can guess which weapon I am trying for the first time tomorrow after I wake up!

I forged my first augment tonight, but I have yet to try it. I put health generation on my Jagras Switch Axe.
 

Radline

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Oct 28, 2017
929
I'd remember three things.

1. If they are in the same area, let them trample over each other. They deal a TON of damage to each other with their attacks alone, and they can really help getting a faster kill.

2. Use everything at your disposal. Traps, Flash Bombs, Dung Bombs, Farcasters... you have the items for a reason, and each one allows you to either be more aggressive or save your life.

3. Play defensively. If you are playing melee, don't go in for full out combo unless you know you'll get out alive. If both are in the area, be careful. If one is enraged, be careful. Just be mindful of your surroundings at all times!

These were things I went into the quest thinking about, and I came out of it with one faint. Used Charge Blade. A very satisfying hunt.
Your tips pretty much helped me get through it in one go, especially the third one. I started to learn that with how aggressive they got. Thanks!
 

Mutagenic

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Oct 30, 2017
2,318
Ever since installing my SSD, every couple hours my system randomly saves a video for no reason. I've only played this game since the install, so I'm not sure if it would happen with others as well.
 

Tenjin

Member
Dec 3, 2017
472
Yeah I want to save them for elder dragon gems. Or if i want a Zorah gem because those are so freaking annoying to farm.

Zorah is so fucking easy ... i got like 5 or 6 gems out of 10 runs. well, one run = 15min (if you don't SOS). My best run included a tailcut and some shinydrops from nergigante ... what a bummer to get only Monster Bone L from him there xD. Sure, it's easy and boring ... but hey, I got all of my gems with ease from him, I guess a print is wasted for his gems. so far I bought 1 odo, 1 xeno and 1 teostra... still got 2 prints left, one still to achieve (have to kill those anjanaths ....)

White Winds down. Would've beat it without carting if I hadn't gotten greedy and fucked up a guard point when I had 30% health. Almost feel like giving it another go to see if I can't do it perfectly (even though I know I can).

Wasn't expecting
congratulations from every NPC in Astera. Probably spent more timing listening to all of them then I spent on the mission!

Well, guess what happens after you beat the hr100 quest :P

Question for experienced players, what was the first time you actually failed a mission in this game? My first was when I got to high-rank Anjanath and forgot my armour set had -9 Fire Resistance, but apart from that I've actually never lost a mission and I'm just about to take on Nergigante. I hear terrifying things about some of the later monsters like Kirin, and especially Tempered monsters. But In general if I prepare well and play smart I've generally been able to overcome. Will that change dramatically? Is this about standard?

My first quest failed were pretty lame. just someone in a MP quest triple carting ... or three people triple carting ... two quest fails I do remember are the triple kills from Teo and Nerg. Nerg got three in one dive in his nest, Teo just nova'd three at once. I must say, I was impressed :D

As I played the main story I only abandoned one quest, because I felt undergeared and didn't want to waste too much time. But other than the 34min with shitty gear for the 4* Kirin there wasn't any big obstacle. I killed all monsters solo the first time, except xeno ... because I hate these last boss fights, they are just too long, still traumatized by ceadeus.
 

OutOfcontrol

Member
Oct 29, 2017
242
HR50 GET! Finally beat Kirin only after maybe 3 triple carts. Switched from CB to GS for hit and run tactic, crafted and fully upgraded a Thunder Res charm and even made a Kirin-specific item loadout (nulberries, max pot, thunder mantle, astral jerky, bombs). He must sleep super early because even when he limps away he still has a ton of health left, maybe like 25%. This part got me the most in my previous attempts, I had almost always gotten him to limp but got too cocky and reckless with my attacks.

One thing I did notice about his animations is that he doesn't stop casting bolts until his head fully stops moving. There are some attacks where he does just one, shortly followed by more which would throw people off.

Phew, I hope to never have to fight him again for a while.

You can cheese it when it goes to sleep
Place 2 large bombs and a small one to detonate, run asap before it wake and see you
It will not chase you and back to sleep again, rinse and repeat.
 

Deleted member 176

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With all of the most powerful bows in each element category, some good gem distribution, and a mix of Rathalos and Nerg armor, I now feel like Bow Death Incarnate. So gooooooood, and I don't even have augmentations yet. It won't even be fair when I do. Better gems and upgrade charms are in the future as well.

Altho I gotta admit that it's still more satisfying launching off Blos Dragonpierces. Used it to get the Impact Mantle right now and it was so much fun just watching giant monster parts fly in the arena. You need to use it on basically armored/giant monsters exclusively tho.
 

Lyonaz

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
492
Lol Kirin multi is a mistake at HR49, but solo it's a super fun fight with dual blades. I blew him up with a total of 6 Mega Barrel bombs, when he went to sleep everytime at the end. Also farcaster is a lifesaver.
Felt great.
 

komaruR

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Oct 28, 2017
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If I understood correctly, it's like this (I can't even do rituals yet and I don't think I'll save scum, but people seem confused and I think I got it):
1) There's a fixed list of decorations (or at least semi-fixed, pre-generated, whatever).
2) Doing the ritual gives you the current decoration, then advances to the next slot in the list.
3) Doing a quest advances either one or two slots (without giving the current decoration, obviously).

If it advances two slots, then you know the next quests will advance only one slot. The one after that will also advance one slot, then the next one will advance two slots; rinse and repeat.

So let's say you spent all your materials doing rituals and you got decorations in this order:
A->B->C->D->E->F->G
You then reset the save game to before you started crafting.
You know that the next decoration you would get is A (it's the first one you got, and you reset the save). After that, you would get B, etc. If you instead do a mission, that skips one or two slots; so if you then do a ritual, you could either get B (you skipped to the next slot) or C (you skipped two slots).

Let's say it actually skipped two slots; that is, you did a single quest, and the next ritual gave you C. You can then lay out the 1-1-2 pattern below the decoration list, like this:
A->B->C->D->E->F->G
2->1->1->2->1->1->2

What this represents is that doing a single quest will skip from A to C. This also means that doing a single quest when the next decoration would be D, will also skip 2 places (to F), and so on. Doing a single quest at any of these points would land you like this:
A->C (skip 2)
B->C
C->D
D->F (skip 2)
E->F
F->G
Incidentally, the implication above is that you can't get decoration B without also doing the ritual to get A (doing a quest instead would skip right over it), and converselly you can't get E without also getting D.

Please correct me if any of this is wrong. I'm off to much needed sleep. :D
doing a quest = skip 1
getting # of deco for quest reward = # amount of skip too.

example.
your list is as follow for the next few ritual.
A
B
C
D
E
F
...

Then you do 1 quest and you got 3 deco at the reward.
You'll skip 4 times.
Making your next ritual immediately after the quest:
E
F
...

The only thing I kinda stumble upon and have yet fully test out is, if i switch to a lower tier ritual (tier 2) and only put enough pt for 1 deco instead of 3. somehow if i go back to the tier 3 ritual on the next ritual, it act as the the previous ritual (the 1 deco but tier 2) counted 3 decos skipped.

But I'm kinda positive that each tier ritual has its own set of deco. they're are linked in sequence of other tiers tho.

Reminds me of the ruststone polishing in the old mh games lol. atleast in ps2 and psp. dont rember but think in wii they start to auto polish ruststone at the reward screen as a way to deter save scumming lol.

anyway to add to the deco skipping. like if you already planned your deco table out for atleast 50+, i guess the fastest way to skip is if they bring back that event where you get deco as rewards. its a quick way to skip alot of the deco sequence.

now if you want to skip only 1, il recommend you do like a easy low rank quest since if i recall, low rank quest dont reward decos at all. this way its a for sure 1 skip instead of more.
another note is that in the old mh, if i recall, only large monster quest skips the ruststone polishing. no hand in exploration ticket or mushroom delivery quest. not sure if its the same condition here or not.
 
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Tenjin

Member
Dec 3, 2017
472
Oh no. I need a bunch of majestic horns to make the diablos set and hammer.

There is the event quest with 5 monsters (Wildspire Bolero), one of them is diablos. It is possible to do this in ~15-20min without haste. I would say, that got I majestic horns every other time I did the event. It gives 30k and some other mats to sell, with the bandid mantle I farmed more than a million so far ... Did it maybe 10 or 15 times so far ... Also: chances of getting gold crowns are higher. so a win win win quest. I do that quest at least two times or more often every day (like the 5monster event last week), once when I log in, and later to relax in between tempered elders.
 

Snormy

I'll think about it
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
5,132
Morizora's Forest
Question for experienced players, what was the first time you actually failed a mission in this game? My first was when I got to high-rank Anjanath and forgot my armour set had -9 Fire Resistance, but apart from that I've actually never lost a mission and I'm just about to take on Nergigante. I hear terrifying things about some of the later monsters like Kirin, and especially Tempered monsters. But In general if I prepare well and play smart I've generally been able to overcome. Will that change dramatically? Is this about standard?

Playing with others I think. This isn't bragging but single player is just so much easier, things break, monsters constantly flinch and you just need to be always on your toes against harder foes. The tougher enemies such as Diablos I am so very familiar with from fighting since MH2 days. Anjanath is like a friendly Deviljho. As soon as I started playing with others though things change. Friends screaming into the mic as they get set on fire and launched into a poison pit. An ally bow user's rocks trigger rains onto me and the paratoad beside me, less familiar friends get one shot etc.

By myself I definitely failed missions by accidentally killing on capture quests and certainly again on 1 cart investigations the most common one for me being Kirin I think.
 

Danielsan

Member
Oct 26, 2017
5,668
The Netherlands
Another evening of staying up till 1 playing Monster Hunter. This game is depriving me of sleep. Still, managed to hit HR68 yesterday and got my first weapon augment in (attack up on Diablos Hammer)! I've picked up the hammer this weekend (my 4th weapon type) and it's been a fucking blast. Anyone who's played hammer knows that sliding off slopes is now the most fun thing in the game. Will stick with it till the weekend and then I'll pick up another weapon type.
 

Derpot

Member
Nov 18, 2017
483
France
The arena quest with the two Diablos is the most horrendous fucking shit ever, holy shit, who thought it was a good idea!?
 
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