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Wanted a super gameboy 2 but got an OG Japanese one for $4 so cant complain too bad. Now to get super mario kart, Metroid and super tennis.
 

Steve McQueen

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TY. But what do I need instead?

You don't need that specifically, there are other flashcarts, but if you're loading ROMs off of the SD card, saving them is currently broken.

This will likely be fixed with an update in the future though.

I guess I'm better of waiting then. These flashcards are expensive and the import fees for the whole packagemaker don't make the purchase any easier ;_;
 

Darknight

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It sounds like you're saying I said that -- which I didn't, just to be clear.

I didn't say you did.

I was addressing the disputing of my claim of saying "no" with the alternative that you can't currently save with it implying my answer was wrong. The poster asked if you need a SD2SNES in order to save and the correct answer is no that it's not a requirement.
 

Aeana

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I didn't say you did.

I was addressing the disputing of my claim of saying "no" with the alternative that you can't currently save with it implying my answer was wrong. The poster asked if you need a SD2SNES in order to save and the correct answer is no that it's not a requirement.

The poster asked if you need an SD2SNES for roms to be saved. The answer to that question is yes.
 

Darknight

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The poster asked if you need an SD2SNES for roms to be saved. The answer to that question is yes.

What does that even mean? I assumed save data since you can't dump games from the Super NT and a SD2SNES wouldn't allow you to save/dump a rom to it either. So I stand by that the answer is no, it is not required.
 

Aeana

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What does that even mean? I assumed save data since you can't dump games from the Super NT and a SD2SNES wouldn't allow you to save/dump a rom to it either. So I stand by that the answer is no, it is not required.
The whole point of the SD2SNES is to play ROMs from an SD card. The jailbroken Super NT firmware can also do this, however if you load a ROM that way, the save feature is broken. To have saving working correctly on the Super NT, you need to either use a legitimate cart, or a flash cart like the SD2SNES or Super Everdrive with ROMs.
 

Darknight

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I thought the jailbreak had some glitchy save system in place?

It does, but do you think someone should drop $200 for something that might be fixed before the device even arrives? It's bad advice. The saves will get fixed, so I don't think it's good advice to tell someone they need a SD2SNES to save.

The whole point of the SD2SNES is to play ROMs from an SD card. The jailbroken Super NT firmware can also do this, however if you load a ROM that way, the save feature is broken. To have saving working correctly on the Super NT, you need to either use a legitimate cart, or a flash cart like the SD2SNES or Super Everdrive with ROMs.

Yes, but that's not saving a rom. So it's incorrect terminology. If we're talking about saving data, that will get fixed and you'll be able to do it from the SD card eventually. SD2SNES is the most expensive flash cart, so there are other devices you could be using too. Saying you need a SD2SNES is bad advice.
 

Proteus

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It does, but do you think someone should drop $200 for something that might be fixed before the device even arrives? It's bad advice. The saves will get fixed, so I don't think it's good advice to tell someone they need a SD2SNES to save.



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For sure. I am not buying the SD2SNES now because I might as well just wait for the save system to sort itself out.
 

Fuzzy

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Oct 25, 2017
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For sure. I am not buying the SD2SNES now because I might as well just wait for the save system to sort itself out.
And even if the jailbreak isn't fixed, buying it outside the Black Friday 20% off sale isn't a good idea if you can help it anyway.

I'm looking forward to taking a pic of the Super Nt along with my SD2SNES, Mario RPG, and Yoshi's Island carts. I don't really care about the other non supported games.
 

Chakoo

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Oct 27, 2017
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Man too much arguing over semantics. =)

On a side note, I'm curious what the production run count for each color for phase 2 was. With us being only 1 day out from shipping and black units are still in stock, I kind of expected they would have sold out by now.

On the cart side, in prep for the system I've bought Super Mario World, Drakken (was $10, never played it) and Crayon ShinChan 2 over this past week. I've pretty much upped my small collection by 1/3 this week (i'm at 8 games) even though I've had a snes jr for about two years now. =/
 

Proteus

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And even if the jailbreak isn't fixed, buying it outside the Black Friday 20% off sale isn't a good idea if you can help it anyway.

I'm looking forward to taking a pic of the Super Nt along with my SD2SNES, Mario RPG, and Yoshi's Island carts. I don't really care about the other non supported games.
Forgot that Mario RPG wasn't supported by the jailbreak. My friend has a copy that I gave him years ago I might be able to borrow it off of him. Or maybe I could just play it on my SNES Mini.
 

mattysaurus

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm still amazed at how high SNES prices have gotten.

Yeah, SNES is probably the most collector unfriendly at this point (also Saturn and Sega CD). Everything just costs a ton of money. At least it's not as bad as 2 years ago when games would randomly shoot from $15 to $60 in a month. On the other hand, it was kinda fun when you already owned said games.

If it makes you feel any better, prices should start coming down a bit over the next year or two. You can already see it happening with the NES, and demand for 64/GameCube stuff is starting to jump up. This doesn't really seem to affect "holy grail"-status games (ugh, hate using that phrase), though, which is a bummer.

On the cart side, in prep for the system I've bought Super Mario World, Drakken (was $10, never played it)=/

On the one hand, I love Drakkhen because it's very nostalgia for me (reminds me of good times with my dad, childhood, etc). On the other hand... it's not a great game. There's a reason it's an rpg that's still $10. The sequel, Dragons View, is significantly better though, so of course it's gotten fairly expensive over the past year or two (something you can generally blame on YouTubers' "hidden gem" type videos).
 

TSM

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Oct 27, 2017
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Anyway, I picked up a copy of Yoshi's Island at a game store ($35) and Star Fox from ebay ($15) since they aren't supported by the jailbreak, or an SD2SNES if I ever get one. I could have just played it on the SNES classic but I don't have that hooked up that often.

I've never played a ton of Yoshi's Island (I think I played a hunk of it on GBA) so that should be fun.

If you are handy with a soldering iron you can get some games cheaper as well. I paid $35 shipped for a copy of Kirby Super Star that had a dead battery. I received it today, replaced the battery and cleaned the cart and pins. It looks brand new.

It's also pretty amazing what a little TLC can do for most carts. As long as the labels are in good shape you can make most carts look pretty decent.

I had an old copy of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein that I ended up with somehow over the years. It looked really rough. I managed to clean it up to the point where it looks fantastic... except where someone scratched "Prop of GLAP" into it right under the label. I don't even know what the heck a GLAP is.
 
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mattysaurus

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If you are handy with a soldering iron you can get some games cheaper as well. I paid $35 shipped for a copy of Kirby Super Star that had a dead battery. I received it today, replaced the battery and cleaned the cart and pins. It looks brand new.

Similarly, I bought a copy of Lufia 2 with a broken pcb for $25 and paid someone $10 to swap the maskrom into another board. It's not in the best condition, but for $35 (versus the then going price of $75), it was a nice bargain.
 

GreenMonkey

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For sure. I am not buying the SD2SNES now because I might as well just wait for the save system to sort itself out.

I'm sure whatever glitch is going on with the saves on the jailbreak will be fixed eventually. I'd bet in the next week or two. We probably won't get a new jailbreak firmware again until the official firmware stabilizes a bit.
 

Steve McQueen

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The whole point of the SD2SNES is to play ROMs from an SD card. The jailbroken Super NT firmware can also do this, however if you load a ROM that way, the save feature is broken. To have saving working correctly on the Super NT, you need to either use a legitimate cart, or a flash cart like the SD2SNES or Super Everdrive with ROMs.
This is exactly what I meant. Sorry if my question caused confusion. I'm no tech guy, I just wanna play roms and save them on the SD card where the roms are on :)
 

Darknight

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This is exactly what I meant. Sorry if my question caused confusion. I'm no tech guy, I just wanna play roms and save them on the SD card where the roms are on :)

So the answer is still no, a SD2SNES is not a requirement. Don't buy extra hardware for a feature that will be fixed. There are good reasons to have a SD2SNES, but save files isn't it.
 

trismegistus

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So the answer is still no, a SD2SNES is not a requirement. Don't buy extra hardware for a feature that will be fixed. There are good reasons to have a SD2SNES, but save files isn't it.
We still don't have any guarantee that the saves on the jailbreak firmware will be fixed. Most likely it will, but that's an assumption; kevtris still hasn't even acknowledged the existence of the jailbreak firmware, let alone made any promises to fix that.

Still probably worth waiting to see what happens before buying an SD2SNES though.
 

cacophony

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Oct 27, 2017
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We still don't have any guarantee that the saves on the jailbreak firmware will be fixed. Most likely it will, but that's an assumption; kevtris still hasn't even acknowledged the existence of the jailbreak firmware, let alone made any promises to fix that.

Still probably worth waiting to see what happens before buying an SD2SNES though.

Given this I'd say it's pretty much guaranteed:

https://twitter.com/retroraster/status/968315521585303554

I don't think smokemoster would have said 100% if the issue hadn't been specifically discussed with the author of the jailbreak.
 

F34R

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Oct 27, 2017
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Here are my Super FX and SA-1 games, all working with Super NT.
  • Dirt Trax FX
  • DOOM
  • PGA Tour '96
  • PGA European Tour
  • Star Fox
  • Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
  • Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
  • Stunt Race FX
Still need to grab Kirby Dream Land 3, but the prices right now are keeping me from it.
 

BriGuy

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Oct 27, 2017
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I missed out on the first allotment, but I'm happy my system is ostensibly shipping tomorrow. What does $40 S&H get me? Can I expect to have this in hand for the weekend? And if not, why the hell did shipping to Ohio cost me $40? We sell things on eBay and ship crap all the time, but nothing has ever cost us close to what Analogue is charging.
 

F34R

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Oct 27, 2017
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I missed out on the first allotment, but I'm happy my system is ostensibly shipping tomorrow. What does $40 S&H get me? Can I expect to have this in hand for the weekend? And if not, why the hell did shipping to Ohio cost me $40? We sell things on eBay and ship crap all the time, but nothing has ever cost us close to what Analogue is charging.
Expect 5 to 7 BUSINESS days. That's what it got you. They tried to say it's shipping charges that are calculated by UPS as soon as you order. I talked to UPS about it and they said that is not true at all. /shrugs I have a quote from UPS corporate store on how much it would cost for the exact package I received from Analogue to ship it directly back to where it came from via UPS ground.

From Analogue:
Our shipping prices are estimated directly from UPSʼs system, and are usually a higher amount for a handful of specific states. This is something entirely out of our control as our contract is for a standardized rate of their shipping for *all* our units. When other customers receive their units is completely dependent on the shipping system in their own countries.

Here's the shipping charges that UPS corporate gave me with the sealed package, $17.43
 

Charles

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I missed out on the first allotment, but I'm happy my system is ostensibly shipping tomorrow. What does $40 S&H get me? Can I expect to have this in hand for the weekend? And if not, why the hell did shipping to Ohio cost me $40? We sell things on eBay and ship crap all the time, but nothing has ever cost us close to what Analogue is charging.
For what it's worth, I live in Australia and it shipped out on the Thursday and I got it on Monday. The fastest package I've ever received from the states. But DHL handled mine the whole way.
 

BriGuy

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Expect 5 to 7 BUSINESS days. That's what it got you. They tried to say it's shipping charges that are calculated by UPS as soon as you order. I talked to UPS about it and they said that is not true at all. /shrugs I have a quote from UPS corporate store on how much it would cost for the exact package I received from Analogue to ship it directly back to where it came from via UPS ground.

From Analogue:


Here's the shipping charges that UPS corporate gave me with the sealed package, $17.43
Well that's shady as fuck. If the system legitimately costs more than the listed $189 to design and produce, I'd rather they just upped the price to reflect that rather than pull some BS like charge exorbitant shipping costs. And if it truly is "out of their hands," then someone needs to open an investigation because someone along the supply chain is pulling a fast one on them.
 

F34R

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Well that's shady as fuck. If the system legitimately costs more than the listed $189 to design and produce, I'd rather they just upped the price to reflect that rather than pull some BS like charge exorbitant shipping costs. And if it truly is "out of their hands," then someone needs to open an investigation because someone along the supply chain is pulling a fast one on them.
Oh, they know what they're charging for shipping. Know way shipping to you should be the same as to me in South Carolina.
 

cacophony

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Well that's shady as fuck. If the system legitimately costs more than the listed $189 to design and produce, I'd rather they just upped the price to reflect that rather than pull some BS like charge exorbitant shipping costs. And if it truly is "out of their hands," then someone needs to open an investigation because someone along the supply chain is pulling a fast one on them.

There's nothing shady about it. What F34R failed to mention is that they hired another company to handle all the packaging and shipping. That company is obviously making a nice profit for certain regions. For me in California, I was only charged about $6 more than the UPS cost, which sounds totally reasonable for packing supplies + 3rd party handling. There's no reason to believe that Analogue is making money off the unusually high shipping costs. They're a small company (4 employees?) and can't ship out 10k units efficiently without some outside help.
 
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Was just about to ask if it'd be a good idea to grab a SD2SNES, but it sounds like that's pretty well covered here. I'll hold out, stick to arcade type games on the SD for now.

And yeah, snagging Super Famicom games off eBay is certainly a way to go. Managed to get SMW, SMW2, SMK, Zelda and Super Metroid for about $50 total.
 

Darkpyro2

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Is this hardware or software emulation? Like, is it built like a SNES, or is it running an emulator like the Retron series of consoles?
 

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From the Youtube videos the black unit is actually really nice looking.
Fuuuuck......You're right, it looks great.

Now I feel conflicted and pressured to buy one. D:

EDIT: HOLY CRAP, cheapest shipping to Canada is 34.99$ with DHL, noooo! Total comes around 290$ CAD. Not so sure now. :(
 
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Wereroku

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Oct 27, 2017
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Fuuuuck......You're right, it looks great.

Now I feel conflicted and pressured to buy one. D:
They seem to be getting pretty positive reviews all around but don't feel too pressured they are selling well enough that I am sure they will have at least 2 more runs.

EDIT: HOLY CRAP, shipping is 34.99$ with DHL, noooo!

Yeah the shipping was really shitty. I am on the east coast of the US and got hit with $43.71 in shipping costs.
 
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Fuuuuck......You're right, it looks great.

Now I feel conflicted and pressured to buy one. D:

EDIT: HOLY CRAP, cheapest shipping to Canada is 34.99$ with DHL, noooo! Total comes around 290$ CAD. Not so sure now. :(

The shipping to the WA-BC border was $15 so the extra $20 isn't too crazy, especially since they charge tax for WA state folk so it came out the same, but yeah the exchange sucks. Mine was $292 after conversion. Nothing like tacking on 50% from the initial "well $189 isn't that bad!"
 

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Is this hardware or software emulation? Like, is it built like a SNES, or is it running an emulator like the Retron series of consoles?

It's not software emulation. There are hardware chips that are programmed to act like real snes hardware and can be written on the fly.
 
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