Hopefully we'll get a deep dive into the graphics settings in the full release. It'll be good to see what effect the Tram setting has on overall performance and image quality.
Final Fantasy XV Windows Edition Demo Thread
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Hopefully we'll get a deep dive into the graphics settings in the full release. It'll be good to see what effect the Tram setting has on overall performance and image quality.
First I've heard of that, can you link me to where you read or saw that?
Yeah this may be the first game where i go 4k 30fps on my 4k tv instead of 1080p 60fps on my gsync monitor. HDR is a huge factor so definitely want to play on my TV instead but 1080p upscaled on it looks horrible and doesn't do the HDR justice so decided to stick with 4k with resolution scale set to 75% and crank up all the graphics options to max settings locking the game to 30fps. Looks vastly superior to the console versions while still running amazingly well.
That's just coming from me from the comparison screens I just posted. The environment looks way too bright, but the sky box does look better in the XB1X version.
Also someone asked about what mode the games were running at. I posted that right above the comparison links.
Hmm... Do you mind @ing me those comparison pictures? I'd like to see for myself what's going on here.
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I'd also say that looking at this on my phone 's screen now, I can see where people are coming from in terms of changes not looking that impactful.
Also going back and looking at the non lite versions of both consoles back on my big screen, XB1X does look to be the better version.
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-final-fantasy-15-xbox-one-x-report
Whatever differences there are should be the result of slight time of day differences. DF/Era users/NX gamer would have all caught a legitimate lighting difference between the two.
All those pictures I posted are taken during the same time of day. It shows the time of day right that the top right of the screen. Taken during "9."
Screen filtering low
Screen filtering highest
Screen filtering highest while defending which adds depth of field
Better example of depth of field, screen filtering low in defense stance. no DoF
Screen filtering highest in defense stance
DoF kicks in from average, haven't tested the difference between average and highest yet.
Assets off
Assets on
Another example
Assets off
Assets off with turf on
Assets on with turf off
Assets on with turf on
I was about to ask if anyone knew what the differences were between medium lighting and highest but i think i just answered my own question lol.
Low lighting
Average lighting
Highest lighting
Haven't really been impressed so far with the graphics!
Although I suspect it's just because I don't remember how poor the Xbox version was.
On the plus side my 1080 seems to power through this title locked 60 with everything maxed at 1080p.
Guess I'll wait till tomorrow to try it at 4K with HDR
Although I suspect it's just because I don't remember how poor the Xbox version was.
On the plus side my 1080 seems to power through this title locked 60 with everything maxed at 1080p.
Guess I'll wait till tomorrow to try it at 4K with HDR
Well, shit. So Screen Filtering is actually useful.
So we'll have to pick our poison in the end? Blurry screen with better effects or sharper IQ but with much less effects?
So we'll have to pick our poison in the end? Blurry screen with better effects or sharper IQ but with much less effects?
How much of a performance hit is VXAO supposed to be? I'm still trying to figure out why my 1070 is getting dips into the 40's at 1080p.
I decided to leave the Nvidia turf on because the difference is worth those 4fps, but I don't think that explains bouncing between 40 and 60. Like I said before, my CPU utilization is almost constantly at 100%. It's an i5-4670k. I haven't seen anyone else in this thread running the game on an i5.
I decided to leave the Nvidia turf on because the difference is worth those 4fps, but I don't think that explains bouncing between 40 and 60. Like I said before, my CPU utilization is almost constantly at 100%. It's an i5-4670k. I haven't seen anyone else in this thread running the game on an i5.
Without it (and shadow libs), I would get 4k40fps avg/38fps lower percentile, all other settings at the High preset in the benchmark. With it and shadow libs added to the bench, I was hitting as low as 4k24fps/4k20fps lower percentile during the combat section. Shadow libs on its own was about 5-7fps hit, VXAO was double that. I use a 1080 Ti at +70/+440. If you use the dr daxxy .dll+command line method, you can test it in the bench, but good luck trying to get it working in the demo. Keep in mind, the benchmark is not representative of the game at all (a bunch of assets are cut out, and most of the high features (hairworks, tessellation) were not implemented correctly).
On its own, it might be the single most intensive graphics feature in the game. Pick any other 2-3 Nvidia features, including shadow libs, and put together they might be less intensive on average than VXAO was on its own. This could change in the final game next week/post launch in a patch.
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Nope. I've given up on VXAO. I've tried doing everything possible. In the menus it says it's on but I see no difference.
On another note... this game is using 11GB of VRAM.... luckily my card has 12GB, but damn that's cutting it close.
On another note... this game is using 11GB of VRAM.... luckily my card has 12GB, but damn that's cutting it close.
I bet people are gonna figure out how to do model swaps before then
I don't know why but for some reason Liberi Fatali started playing in head after seing this...Average lighting
Damn, 4k 30fps at max settings on a 1070 is giving drops unsurprisingly. It's perfectly playable but yeah, gonna need to drop some things.
Also I can't get 1440p to show up in the list of resolutions?
Also I can't get 1440p to show up in the list of resolutions?
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Interesting, I have the same problem. I wonder if it happens for everyone then who runs the game at 4k max settings, or if there are other factors. I'll have to try if lowering the tram setting is sufficient to prevent the crashes.
As I wrote earlier in the thread, the same thing happens for me with the Mass Effect Andromeda trial at max settings. But surely crashing shouldn't be the normal behavior when the 1080ti's VRAM is full?
I'm already debating with myself what to sacrifice for VXAO. 1440p with 125% resolution scale looks like the minimum for a good IQ for me, with screen filtering off. Shadows high, not highest. Going to average shadows produces ugly constant shimmering on the foliage. TurfWorks is a must have, looks so good. Other than that, motion blur off, HairWorks and shadow libs are not needed. Currently 90% of the time 60fps, with dips to the 50s during combat.
What other settings could I drop to free some computing power for VXAO? Any suggestions?
Yes, I'm really glad they implemented it in the PC version, it really does wonder.
The Filtering implementation reminds of mgsv,on highest everything looks so blurry and less detailed but turning it off is not good either...decisions,decisions.I think i just want long distance DoF.
Any good comparison between shadow libs on and off? i can't see the difference.
Any good comparison between shadow libs on and off? i can't see the difference.
%USERNAME%\My Documents\My Games\FINAL FANTASY XV PLAYABLE DEMO\
Not even %AppData%, I wonder why it can't save anything there.
Thanks, I'll investigate.
No problem! I'm not sure if it will help but I observed something odd with the folder too. My "My Documents" folder is on a whole different drive from my Windows install and every app and game seems to honor this except Final Fantasy XV. It created a secondary My Documents folder on my OS drive ignoring my moved folder.
Well yeah, my Documents folder is on drive E: not C:
Could be part of it
Probably isn't the best one since this one was just a one-off and all, but here it is:
Shadow lib off:
Shadow lib on:
The notable difference I can find is the bundle of cables that now cast very soft shadows and that corner near the tires.
Probably isn't the best one since this one was just a one-off and all, but here it is:
Shadow lib off:
Shadow lib on:
The notable difference I can find is the bundle of cables that now cast very soft shadows and that corner near the tires.
Huh the difference is really hard to spot. Might not be worth it.
How are some people getting Ansel to work? Every time I turn it on it causes the graphics to go all crazy.
Thanks a lot! the difference is minimal by the look of it,but it's not a very demanding option either.Probably isn't the best one since this one was just a one-off and all, but here it is:
Shadow lib off:
Shadow lib on:
The notable difference I can find is the bundle of cables that now cast very soft shadows and that corner near the tires.
Well,i'm just experimenting with the ingame options right now,i don't use reshade at the first sign of trouble.
For me I had to update my driver, turn off VSync, turn off the FPS counter, make sure my monitor was running at 144hz, set the game to 120FPS, then went into RivaTuner and locked the game at 72FPS. I don't get any stutters. I do get some rare hangs here and there.
Yeah it did, but the Documents folder that was on C:\ had no permissions for users, so he couldn't even create it.
After reseting the permissions on the wrong Documents folder there:
What a load of horseshit, the correct folder should be E:\Documents\My Games for me
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Settings still don't save for some weird reason?
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Yeah it did, but the Documents folder that was on C:\ had no permissions for users, so he couldn't even create it.
After reseting the permissions on the wrong Documents folder there:
What a load of horseshit, the correct folder should be E:\Documents\My Games for me
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Settings still don't save for some weird reason?
So you have the same behavior as me, I wouldn't be surprised if Square just used a wrong variable for the save location. As for the settings, the full path to the settings-file should be: %USERNAME%\Documents\My Games\FINAL FANTASY XV PLAYABLE DEMO\Steam\76561197989459702\savestorage\GraphicsConfig.ini
Maybe manually creating it will help.
I think its quite clear that playing without the processing effects is a no go and you cant really play without TAA. I just find it a bit frustrating that everyone keeps mentioning the blurry IQ which has a very simple solution. :P
Shadowlibs doesnt seem to do much of anything and the perf hit is small. Pretty sure it isnt the hfts that was promised