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Grexeno

Sorry for your ineptitude
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Oct 25, 2017
24,798
So it's totally true that if you pick up the tracks of a monster you will get investigations for every monster BUT the one you're tracking right? I just followed Odogaron around for 20 minutes and got 12 investigations for everything in Coral Highlands except Odogaron.
 

h8bit

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,169
Brooklyn, NY
See if you can't get that final level in Weakness Exploit. It's a huge boost to damage.

I'm assuming you have handicraft for white sharpness and protective polish / speed sharpening because the white is minuscule? It's just that those are a lot of skill points you could be putting elsewhere if you gave up on the white sharpness. Maybe run Nergi GS instead and enjoy a giant chunk of blue that basically never needs to be sharpened? Then use those skill points for other things you may want? Like crit eye, attack up, weakness exploit, earplugs, maximum might, challenger, or whatever.

As for focus...I personally think it's a trap for GS users now. On one hand you think "cool I can charge my attacks faster for more damage!" but I disagree. For one, you should really only be charging the true charge attack if you have the opportunity, and use the first two attacks to just get to true charge. And if you do that, the final charge is super short anyway. Even on downed monsters, focus does not let you land more charge attacks before they get back up, I tested it myself. Finally, the biggest issue I have with focus is that sometimes you don't want it to charge quickly. If you are anticipating a charge or roar you can hold your charge longer to tackle through it.

Tl;dr: Focus is not as good as it used to be for GS and frankly I feel like the points can be spent better elsewhere.

Thank you so much! re: sharpening skills - those are mostly just from gems that I have because I don't have any better alternatives yet. Haven't had much of an issue with Leviathan's sharpness.
 

stan_marsh

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,688
Canada
This game is ridiculous, I can't believe I haven't played anything but MHW since it came out.
Last year I'd be done like five games by now rofl
 

Yoshichan

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
3,045
Sweden
So there's a 3% chance an Elder Dragon drops a Hero Streamstone.

And like 12 weapon types, right? Can anyone calculate what the odds are to get one specific Hero Streamstone each kill?
 

ClearMetal

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,328
the Netherlands
Now that we've had some time to enjoy World and really appreciate the QoL improvements, it is of course time to start bugging Capcom about...

... making basic QoL of improvements.

I'll start: Capcom, why in god's name are corpses despawning so fucking aggressively?

It's not performance, because those two monsters were kicking the shit out of each other on the same screen before one of them died, so I know you don't need to despawn it to save on polycount.

It's not realism, because you aren't going to stand there and tell me a thirty ton dinosaur decayed to not-even-bones in two minutes.

It's not challenge, because you're going to give me rewards from the monster in the quest summary even if I never got a chance to carve it.

It's not cleanliness, because you're going to boot me out of this mission in 50 minutes max regardless, so it's not like I'm going to get to really clutter up the place.

Why you gotta be like this, Capcom?
This. So much this. Especially when you're duking it out with a pack of small monsters (Girros, Shamos) and you can't kill all 10+ of them fast enough to carve the ones you killed first. It makes no sense.

Same goes for broken off monster material.

Another thing that bugs the hell out of me is the looooong start-up animation after you carted and especially the camera pulling towards the bugflies tracking the target. I know where the fuck Nergigante is, dumb game, I just fought him. Now let me go back to my tent already and restock on potions.
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,403
Is Aloy's bow worth it? I'm tempted to craft it, but I already have a tobi-kadachi lightning bow that seems to have better stat and better coating support (Aloy's War Bow does lightning, but it needs to be unlocked with Free Elem? and no power coating?). 30% affinity is nice though.

I only have 1 Anjanath plate for some reason (and 1 gem so far too) and I think I'll spend it on upgrading my fire hammer instead... thoughts?
 

Imperfected

Member
Nov 9, 2017
11,737
Same goes for broken off monster material.

This would actually be my second highest QoL priority.

Why is the broken off material glow color the least visible by far? Particularly on gray/white backgrounds (most of the important ones on Coral Highlands and Elder's Recess)?

Ninenty-nine times out of a hundred I'm more interested in being able to find materials than I am slinger ammo or trade-in items. Use the red glow, or the gold glow. Use literally anything but a white glow.
 

DrArchon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,485
Is Aloy's bow worth it? I'm tempted to craft it, but I already have a tobi-kadachi lightning bow that seems to have better stat and better coating support (Aloy's War Bow does lightning, but it needs to be unlocked with Free Elem? and no power coating?). 30% affinity is nice though.

I only have 1 Anjanath plate for some reason (and 1 gem so far too) and I think I'll spend it on upgrading my fire hammer instead... thoughts?
Aloy's Bow seems decent for a Crit build. With 3 augments it can get to 50% affinity by itself, meaning 100% with Weakness Exploit 3. Not that you can't hit 100% with other bows, but this means you get to use other skills and aren't forced to use the Affinity Booster.

The raw sucks but at least you can run it with Elementless to help out a little.
 

Grudy

Unshakable Resolve
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Oct 29, 2017
2,646
Going through all the optional quests with a bandit is a really good way to make some serious zenny.
 

ClearMetal

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,328
the Netherlands
This would actually be my second highest QoL priority.

Why is the broken off material glow color the least visible by far? Particularly on gray/white backgrounds (most of the important ones on Coral Highlands and Elder's Recess)?

Ninenty-nine times out of a hundred I'm more interested in being able to find materials than I am slinger ammo or trade-in items. Use the red glow, or the gold glow. Use literally anything but a white glow.
Good point. So many times when you see the icon for broken off material in the corner of your screen but you just can't locate it.

Oh, there's a glow. Nope, stone. Oh, there's another glow. Nope, crystalburst. Oh hey, the symbol is gone. Take a few step back, please tell me it's still there. Of course not, despawned already.

Capcom could take a note out of Blizzard's book here. One of the most sought after crafting materials in Diablo III, Death's Breath, had the same glow color as other, less-important materials. After listening to user feedback, Blizzard did the sensible thing and gave it a completely unique glow. Now it sticks out like a sore thumb.
 

Ashgar

Member
Oct 28, 2017
246
So there's a 3% chance an Elder Dragon drops a Hero Streamstone.

And like 12 weapon types, right? Can anyone calculate what the odds are to get one specific Hero Streamstone each kill?

3%, 12 types. That 0.25%.

It's a little better than this, but not by much, because each quest reward slot is rolled individually. In addition, there are actually only 7 Streamstones because each one is usable on 2 weapon types. I don't know any of the actual data here, so let's make some wild guesses:

Let's take a 4-reward investigation, and I'm going to assume that there's a 3% chance of a Hero Streamstone in each slot. That means there's a (3/7)%, or .43% chance of the streamstone you actually want. Rolled 4 times, that means you have about a 1.7% chance per 4-reward investigation.
 

Yoshichan

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
3,045
Sweden
It's a little better than this, but not by much, because each quest reward slot is rolled individually. In addition, there are actually only 7 Streamstones because each one is usable on 2 weapon types. I don't know any of the actual data here, so let's make some wild guesses:

Let's take a 4-reward investigation, and I'm going to assume that there's a 3% chance of a Hero Streamstone in each slot. That means there's a (3/7)%, or .43% chance of the streamstone you actually want. Rolled 4 times, that means you have about a 1.7% chance per 4-reward investigation.
Better but still terrible! Thanks man!
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
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Oct 24, 2017
34,403
My QoL wishlist (I'm sure many of those, maybe all, have been mentioned before):

Easily patchable, IMO:
- Skip cut scenes (and fuck that slow-walking section! I mean, really, Capcom?!). This is a no-brainer. Come on Capcom.
- Increase wishlist size.
- Make shiny drops more visible (my scoutflies detected one for Bazelgeuse in Elder Recess yesterday, white on white, never found it)

Probably needs more work than just a patch, but at least in future games:
- Revamp how investigations are generated and cleaned up, soooo much time wasted cleaning up that clutter
- Some HR monsters require expeditions or whatever to randomly run into the monsters to unlock their hunting quests. That's dumb, the monsters should all be more easily unlockable (had to do this for HR Jyura, HR Tobi and others)
- An in-game way to tell you the best way to obtain a part (break X + cap reward, or break X + body carve, tail carve, etc.). Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes, not so much (like gems or plates).
- A way to examine currently active Felyne Skills after eating. Sometimes I forget what I have active (unless I'm blind, I haven't found a way to see it)

I'm sure there could be more but that's what comes to mind right now.
 

Mafro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,366
My QoL wishlist (I'm sure many of those, maybe all, have been mentioned before):

Easily patchable, IMO:
- Skip cut scenes (and fuck that slow-walking section! I mean, really, Capcom?!). This is a no-brainer. Come on Capcom.
- Increase wishlist size.
- Make shiny drops more visible (my scoutflies detected one for Bazelgeuse in Elder Recess yesterday, white on white, never found it)

Probably needs more work than just a patch, but at least in future games:
- Revamp how investigations are generated and cleaned up, soooo much time wasted cleaning up that clutter
- Some HR monsters require expeditions or whatever to randomly run into the monsters to unlock their hunting quests. That's dumb, the monsters should all be more easily unlockable (had to do this for HR Jyura, HR Tobi and others)
- An in-game way to tell you the best way to obtain a part (break X + cap reward, or break X + body carve, tail carve, etc.). Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes, not so much (like gems or plates).
- A way to examine currently active Felyne Skills after eating. Sometimes I forget what I have active (unless I'm blind, I haven't found a way to see it)

I'm sure there could be more but that's what comes to mind right now.
Add grappling point bugs to the Ancient Forest. Fighting a flying monster in that place is an absolute slog having to climb around the place.
 

Ferrs

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
18,829
My QoL wishlist (I'm sure many of those, maybe all, have been mentioned before):

Easily patchable, IMO:
- Skip cut scenes (and fuck that slow-walking section! I mean, really, Capcom?!). This is a no-brainer. Come on Capcom.
- Increase wishlist size.
- Make shiny drops more visible (my scoutflies detected one for Bazelgeuse in Elder Recess yesterday, white on white, never found it)

Probably needs more work than just a patch, but at least in future games:
- Revamp how investigations are generated and cleaned up, soooo much time wasted cleaning up that clutter
- Some HR monsters require expeditions or whatever to randomly run into the monsters to unlock their hunting quests. That's dumb, the monsters should all be more easily unlockable (had to do this for HR Jyura, HR Tobi and others)
- An in-game way to tell you the best way to obtain a part (break X + cap reward, or break X + body carve, tail carve, etc.). Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes, not so much (like gems or plates).
- A way to examine currently active Felyne Skills after eating. Sometimes I forget what I have active (unless I'm blind, I haven't found a way to see it)

I'm sure there could be more but that's what comes to mind right now.

Honestly they should be auto-gatherable. Worst part is that they despawn...
 

DrArchon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,485
- Make shiny drops more visible (my scoutflies detected one for Bazelgeuse in Elder Recess yesterday, white on white, never found it)
Yep. Elder's Recess and Coral Highlands are the worst for this. I have no idea what they were thinking, because they clearly had the foresight to make dropped slinger ammo stand out.
 

milkham

Member
Oct 25, 2017
192
My QoL wishlist (I'm sure many of those, maybe all, have been mentioned before):

Easily patchable, IMO:
- Skip cut scenes (and fuck that slow-walking section! I mean, really, Capcom?!). This is a no-brainer. Come on Capcom.
- Increase wishlist size.
- Make shiny drops more visible (my scoutflies detected one for Bazelgeuse in Elder Recess yesterday, white on white, never found it)

Probably needs more work than just a patch, but at least in future games:
- Revamp how investigations are generated and cleaned up, soooo much time wasted cleaning up that clutter
- Some HR monsters require expeditions or whatever to randomly run into the monsters to unlock their hunting quests. That's dumb, the monsters should all be more easily unlockable (had to do this for HR Jyura, HR Tobi and others)
- An in-game way to tell you the best way to obtain a part (break X + cap reward, or break X + body carve, tail carve, etc.). Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes, not so much (like gems or plates).
- A way to examine currently active Felyne Skills after eating. Sometimes I forget what I have active (unless I'm blind, I haven't found a way to see it)

I'm sure there could be more but that's what comes to mind right now.

you can view rewards in your hunter's notes on each monster but I believe it depends on your research levels
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press start/options to bring up status and then press r2 twice to show the food skills
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Deleted member 6230

User-requested account closure
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Oct 25, 2017
6,118
Made my "I STAY Sharp" build

Dragonking Eyepatch
Kushala Chest Beta
Damascus Arms Alpha
Odogaron Waist Alpha
Death Stench Legs Beta
Max Might 2 Charm

With the max might, weakness exploit, protective polish, and grinder jewels you get the following skills

Handicraft 5
Weakness Exploit 3
Speed Sharpening 3
Maximum Might 3
Critical Eye 2
Protective Polish

This is like my generic go to build for my Sword and Shield. Really good with swords that have or get white sharpness and some affinity. If I had some attack jewels and another grinder jewel I could probably switch the Odogaron waist for a Nergigante Waist Beta and drop like a couple attack jewels in to end up with Attack Boost 4
 
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Gonzalez

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,679
Fuck Tempered Kirin. Took me several times solo, and with SOS's. None of that worked. So I looked online for a tactic, and found the LBG slicing ammo tactic. Yup, that worked. I feel so dirty after doing it. First time this has happened where I felt this way playing MHW. Am I a bad person?
 

Ashgar

Member
Oct 28, 2017
246
Fuck Tempered Kirin. Took me several times solo, and with SOS's. None of that worked. So I looked online for a tactic, and found the LBG slicing ammo tactic. Yup, that worked. I feel so dirty after doing it. First time this has happened where I felt this way playing MHW. Am I a bad person?

I wonder if that was written pre- or post-nerf. I do see a lot of people recommend LBG (usually with Spread) or Greatsword for Kirin.
 

stan_marsh

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,688
Canada
you can view rewards in your hunter's notes on each monster but I believe it depends on your research levels
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press start/options to bring up status and then press r2 twice to show the food skills
DKugXGc.png

Even better, go to Equipment Info and press R3 to see the actual skills the food skills give you. Took me a while to figure that out -.-
 

ClearMetal

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,328
the Netherlands
Just unlocked my first tempered investigation. Tempered Rathian...

I have no idea how well I'd do against her. To give you a clue about my level: I'm not good enough to kill Nergigante yet, although I can get him to his last phase.

Another question: is there any way to turn Bazel off? Like before you even start the mission? I'm getting so tired of him showing up every time I fight a monster.
 

Rhaknar

Member
Oct 26, 2017
42,652
oh for fuck sake, this legiana temepered quest is 9stars, it doesnt count for the weekly SIGH

so you actually have to do stupid non tempered quests >_<
 

Omnistalgic

self-requested temp ban
Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,973
NJ
Man I can't decide between charge blade and LongSword. I love the damage of longsword and it seems like I'm taking down monsters faster with it, but charge blade (when it clicks at least) does seem to be the better balanced weapon. I know I have to have better monster knowledge to even use Great Sword, so I'll save that for end game.

Help vets, LS vs CB?
 

mas8705

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,497
My QoL wishlist (I'm sure many of those, maybe all, have been mentioned before):

Easily patchable, IMO:
- Skip cut scenes (and fuck that slow-walking section! I mean, really, Capcom?!). This is a no-brainer. Come on Capcom.
- Increase wishlist size.
- Make shiny drops more visible (my scoutflies detected one for Bazelgeuse in Elder Recess yesterday, white on white, never found it)

Probably needs more work than just a patch, but at least in future games:
- Revamp how investigations are generated and cleaned up, soooo much time wasted cleaning up that clutter
- Some HR monsters require expeditions or whatever to randomly run into the monsters to unlock their hunting quests. That's dumb, the monsters should all be more easily unlockable (had to do this for HR Jyura, HR Tobi and others)
- An in-game way to tell you the best way to obtain a part (break X + cap reward, or break X + body carve, tail carve, etc.). Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes, not so much (like gems or plates).
- A way to examine currently active Felyne Skills after eating. Sometimes I forget what I have active (unless I'm blind, I haven't found a way to see it)

I'm sure there could be more but that's what comes to mind right now.

Yeah... The Cutscenes being unskippable seems like a MH staple at this point. Would be nice (especially considering how hunters can't jump in and help you until after you've seen it once). Wish list would also be nice too if it was more than just six since you could say that some people work towards multiple things at one time, and it can branch out to alot more than just six.

As for everything else, the game does do a pretty good job in terms of telling you weak spots to target, what weapon is more effective at certain spots, and if something is breakable or if a tail can be severed. Best thing to say if any about the other HR monsters would be to do the optional quests of them and then you should get the investigations for them to get more rewards of of them.
 

ClearMetal

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,328
the Netherlands
Use dung pods to get rid of a monster, hit Bazel with one and he'll go away.
Just use Pods, man. It's the only way. The only other way is to hunt Elder Dragons(where there are no other monsters on the field.
Yeah I've been using the pods to get rid of him. I just hoped there would be another way to eliminate the chance of him appearing entirely (aside from not engaging in monster hunts).

Maybe I'm lucky, Stockholme syndrome will kick in soon and I'll actually learn to like him.
 

cowbanana

Member
Feb 2, 2018
13,758
a Socialist Utopia
Thunderous Rumble in the Highlands is one crazy hunt. My Little Lightning Pony is one nasty piece of work.

The pony utterly destroyed me the first time I tried it. But I actually managed to beat it on my second attempt, through *cough*pure skill*cough* and some amount of luck :)
I knew I couldn't hack it alone with my long sword so I took a maxed out Anja hammer to its face and had good luck on the slope near the camp where I managed to land lots of spinning slide attacks. Then it wiped me out twice on the flat plain below :/ I got it limping and chased it back to where it was sleeping where I nearly died a few times whittling down its remaining health. I had to run away with the pony hot on my heels. I ran back to the slope where I did my best spin to win for the kill. It was quite an exhilarating hunt!

Without the lightning proof mantle and the vitality mantle I don't think I would have made it.
 

Skittles

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,276
Yeah I've been using the pods to get rid of him. I just hoped there would be another way to eliminate the chance of him appearing entirely (aside from not engaging in monster hunts).

Maybe I'm lucky, Stockholme syndrome will kick in soon and I'll actually learn to like him.
Just murder him. He's actually not that hard to kill and his gear is pree good
 
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