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Ninja

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Oct 28, 2017
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I saw one parked here in Portland and I was shocked by the panel gaps and panels not lining up. I don't get why people are willing to put up with that.
 

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I really don't like the key card/phone stuff. I'd much rather have a keyfob and a start button. It's a good thing my phone case is my wallet -- I'll have to keep the card in there in case my phone battery runs out.

I'm not terribly happy with the lack of contextual functionality for the steering wheel dials, but I know that Tesla will be updating the software to improve functionality based on customer feedback, along with expanding voice controls to additional features.

I'm a bit surprised about the road noise. I thought that'd be better on this aerodynamic car. I guess there's not enough sound insulation. Maybe that'll improve by the time the AWD version comes out, too.
Road noise is the tire rubbing over concrete, wind noise is affected by the cars aeroesign, then you have structure borne noise and engine noise (electric cars still have a annoying high pitched sound).

The reason road noise is bad on the model 3 is that Tesla made their Ventilation System go straight from the cabin to the trunk and to the outside (theres a yt video on that).

That's massive cost cutting on Tesla's part. Wouldn't surprise me if noise levels >60km/h would match a 90s Kia.
 

golem

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Oct 25, 2017
2,878
Damn starting to see them everywhere here in SoCal. Sort of regretting cancelling my preorder
 

Brodo Baggins

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Oct 27, 2017
3,975
This last month of waiting has been by far the worst for me. I got all my finances in order to get down to the monthly payments I want so every day I just look at my account and long for the day to come. It doesn't help that some people with estimates AFTER me, are getting the option to configure now (Line waiter mar-may estimate)... I really hope I hear something in the next few weeks.
 

Kito

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Nov 6, 2017
3,157
Just got my configuration email last week, but haven't opened it, yet. I can't help but feel like if I go through with this, I'll be kicking myself at the likely major improvements that will be made within just one model year.

Also, the thought of Level 5 autonomous vehicles hitting the market in the next couple years also makes me think I should wait it out. Of course, maybe I'm wrong, and we're many years away from that becoming a reality, but that's kind of why I'm posting this.
 

Mcfrank

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Oct 28, 2017
15,229
Just got my configuration email last week, but haven't opened it, yet. I can't help but feel like if I go through with this, I'll be kicking myself at the likely major improvements that will be made within just one model year.

Also, the thought of Level 5 autonomous vehicles hitting the market in the next couple years also makes me think I should wait it out. Of course, maybe I'm wrong, and we're many years away from that becoming a reality, but that's kind of why I'm posting this.

If they sell you this one as self driving and it isn't capable you can have the joy of being part of a major class action law suit. Pull the trigger!
 

laminated

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Oct 28, 2017
1,283
Can we expect a Model S refresh this year? The Model 3 is appealing, but the Model S has always been my favorite for its looks, size, and I do like having a instrument panel in front of me. But I've read a few posters on other message boards doubt there'd be a refresh because the factory line is busy building Model 3's.
 

Maynerd

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,526
Redmond, WA
Damn Tesla has some really shitty lending partners. they offered me 60mo 3.45% LOL no.

Went and found a lender to give me 60mo 1.99%
 

toohectic

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Oct 27, 2017
238
Are the sport wheels 2-piece? My mother took some pics of the showroom model in San Diego and it looks like the sport wheels have a removable facia like the aero wheels. I'm not referring to the black lug nut cover, but the primary wheel body. I was hoping for a solid alloy wheel. You can see the separation down by the air stem. I'll look closer this weekend when I get a chance to stop by the showroom.
 

Brodo Baggins

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Oct 27, 2017
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Damn Tesla has some really shitty lending partners. they offered me 60mo 3.45% LOL no.

Went and found a lender to give me 60mo 1.99%

Do you mind sharing what lender gave you that rate? I know PenFed used to be the best for Model S, but looking at their estimates they don't seem to be offering great rates for M3.

Still no call for me with a delivery date and no VIN assignment. Getting annoying at this point.

That sucks, but at least you've actually got to configure. I'm a day 1 line waiter, and it really stings that people who ordered online with later estimates than me have already configured. This limbo of never knowing when I can finally configure is so painful.
 
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Mcfrank

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Oct 28, 2017
15,229
Still no call for me with a delivery date and no VIN assignment. Getting annoying at this point.
 

Maynerd

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Oct 27, 2017
2,526
Redmond, WA
What was the total price for the car, and what would the monthly payments look like?

That depends on a lot of factors to be honest, tax, licensing etc.. The price of the car ranges but if you get every option it will be 60500 before any taxes, licensing etc... Payments again depend on your terms that you get in regards to length of time and interest rate.

Congrats! Did you got the sports wheels?

I bet I won't see mine for at least a month, but I keep refreshing my Tesla account to see if they've given me a VIN...

I got the 19" sport wheels


Are the sport wheels 2-piece? My mother took some pics of the showroom model in San Diego and it looks like the sport wheels have a removable facia like the aero wheels. I'm not referring to the black lug nut cover, but the primary wheel body. I was hoping for a solid alloy wheel. You can see the separation down by the air stem. I'll look closer this weekend when I get a chance to stop by the showroom.

I thought it was one piece. But honestly haven't looked that close.

Do you mind sharing what lender gave you that rate? I know PenFed used to be the best for Model S, but looking at their estimates they don't seem to be offering great rates for M3.

I am using Financial Partners Credit Union https://www.fpcu.org/ they are a credit union so they have some requirements to become a member. I didn't meet any of the 'normal' requirements but because I am a member of another credit union they let me become a member and thereby allowing me to get the loan. They also require 15% down payment on the vehicle. Of course this is all dependent on your credit rating as well. I have a hunch that their rates may change soon so if you are close to getting yours you should call them and get preapproved and lock in that rate.
 

toohectic

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Oct 27, 2017
238
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Here's the image of the wheel I was referring to. Shot might be misleading, but it appears to be two pieces. Not really a big deal but interesting nonetheless.
 

PhoncipleBone

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Oct 25, 2017
11,340
Kentucky, USA
Damn, people on West Coast ordering now and getting one, but here on East Coast ordered one in first day or so of orders with max range battery and interior upgrade and still expected sometime this summer.
 

Keikaku

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Oct 27, 2017
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https://www.greencarreports.com/new...lity-is-terrible-but-does-it-matter-to-buyers
We took delivery of our Model 3 today. It looked like everything was working OK until we got within about 10 miles of the house. That was when the touchscreen started to malfunction.

It is getting random touches along the right side of the screen. The worst part is that the stereo will go to full volume without notice. It also makes the map and navigation mostly useless. I called Tesla and they had me try rebooting the screen several times.

Unfortunately it didn't resolve the issue. They said they would call me back [within 24 hours] to attempt a software update or to schedule a service call. Nothing like paying $50,000 to be a beta tester. Again.

During the test itself, two things became clear: The Model 3 works largely as intended, and the build quality was the worst we have seen on any new car from any maker over the last 10 years.

The flaws and defects broke down into two categories: those that affected the functioning of the car or the owner's driving experience, and those that didn't.

The first group included:

  • The defective touchscreen and all the follow-on effects (above)
  • Persistent creaks and groans from the console or dash
  • An intermittent loud buzz from the upper right-hand center door pillar at highway speeds on some road surfaces
  • A steering vibration (in a car with just 1,000 miles)
The longer list of assembly defects on our car that early owners seem likely to overlook are a remarkable number of fit and finish issues:

  • Misaligned body panels
  • Widely varying gaps between panel edges
  • Headlights protruding above panels in some places, sunken below them in others, varying side to side
  • Glovebox door that didn't sit square in its opening
  • Badly fitted chrome door trim that didn't align from piece to piece
Note that the cheapest Chevy, Honda, Hyundai, or Toyota wouldn't make it out of the factory with any one of those observable problems, let alone the whole list of them.
Sounds like Tesla has a lot to learn about car manufacturing.
 

Hardhat

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Feb 7, 2018
475
Why is there such variance in the overall fit and finish of the car? Are they all done by hand? Isn't there a production line to ensure a minimum level of quality?
 

Irate

Member
Oct 25, 2017
93
So the previous comments about it having issues like a kia from the 90s aren't all hyperbolic. That stinks. I'd love to have an electric car but I can't see paying this much for one with all of the flaws it has. Hopefully the next model year will be a large improvement.
 

laminated

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Oct 28, 2017
1,283
This post would probably me more appropriate for a "car loan" thread, but I thought I'd try here first. Here's my situation.

I need a new car, and I'm looking at the Model S 100D.

I don't work. I quit my job a year ago to become my fathers caregiver while he battles cancer.

My stock portfolio would show that I can purchase this car in cash and can afford monthly payments.

However, I would prefer putting a down payment of say $50K, and then finance the rest. My portfolios steady performance would exceed the interest I'd pay in financing the car (assuming a 1-2.5% APR).

I have a high credit score but no history of loans. I did purchase a new car for my mom in cash last year, but I don't think this would mean anything to the lender.

Would lenders even consider giving me a loan if I don't have the liquid cash on hand and don't have a job? Am I basically stuck with having to buy the car in cash?
 
Oct 28, 2017
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This post would probably me more appropriate for a "car loan" thread, but I thought I'd try here first. Here's my situation.

I need a new car, and I'm looking at the Model S 100D.

I don't work. I quit my job a year ago to become my fathers caregiver while he battles cancer.

My stock portfolio would show that I can purchase this car in cash and can afford monthly payments.

However, I would prefer putting a down payment of say $50K, and then finance the rest. My portfolios steady performance would exceed the interest I'd pay in financing the car (assuming a 1-2.5% APR).

I have a high credit score but no history of loans. I did purchase a new car for my mom in cash last year, but I don't think this would mean anything to the lender.

Would lenders even consider giving me a loan if I don't have the liquid cash on hand and don't have a job? Am I basically stuck with having to buy the car in cash?

Please visit a dealer or Tesla and ask because this is a very interesting point to make. I'm assume they'd say no.
 

Maynerd

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Oct 27, 2017
2,526
Redmond, WA
Nice. How was your walk through? Any panel gap issues or manufacturers defects that need to be addressed?

No concerning defects that I saw. I asked my wife to look over the car while I went over the car set up and controls with the sales manager. I did not go over the car with a fine toothed comb a general walk around did not raise any alarm bells.

One quirky thing I ran into is that my daughter is in a car seat with a base that latches to the seat and doesn't use the seatbelt. The display detected weight in the seat and had a warning. I had to latch the seatbelt to make the message go away.
 

j_rocca42

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Oct 25, 2017
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PNW
No concerning defects that I saw. I asked my wife to look over the car while I went over the car set up and controls with the sales manager. I did not go over the car with a fine toothed comb a general walk around did not raise any alarm bells.

One quirky thing I ran into is that my daughter is in a car seat with a base that latches to the seat and doesn't use the seatbelt. The display detected weight in the seat and had a warning. I had to latch the seatbelt to make the message go away.
How was the overall pick up experience. The Tesla reps seem knowledgeable and go over things thoroughly. Seems like a fun experience.
 

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This post would probably me more appropriate for a "car loan" thread, but I thought I'd try here first. Here's my situation.

I need a new car, and I'm looking at the Model S 100D.

I don't work. I quit my job a year ago to become my fathers caregiver while he battles cancer.

My stock portfolio would show that I can purchase this car in cash and can afford monthly payments.

However, I would prefer putting a down payment of say $50K, and then finance the rest. My portfolios steady performance would exceed the interest I'd pay in financing the car (assuming a 1-2.5% APR).

I have a high credit score but no history of loans. I did purchase a new car for my mom in cash last year, but I don't think this would mean anything to the lender.

Would lenders even consider giving me a loan if I don't have the liquid cash on hand and don't have a job? Am I basically stuck with having to buy the car in cash?

Pretty sure when you put down 50K on a car they'll have no issue financing the rest.
 

Valkyr Junkie

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Oct 27, 2017
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This post would probably me more appropriate for a "car loan" thread, but I thought I'd try here first. Here's my situation.

I need a new car, and I'm looking at the Model S 100D.

I don't work. I quit my job a year ago to become my fathers caregiver while he battles cancer.

My stock portfolio would show that I can purchase this car in cash and can afford monthly payments.

However, I would prefer putting a down payment of say $50K, and then finance the rest. My portfolios steady performance would exceed the interest I'd pay in financing the car (assuming a 1-2.5% APR).

I have a high credit score but no history of loans. I did purchase a new car for my mom in cash last year, but I don't think this would mean anything to the lender.

Would lenders even consider giving me a loan if I don't have the liquid cash on hand and don't have a job? Am I basically stuck with having to buy the car in cash?

I believe financing is going to be incredibly difficult due to no current paychecks, and no history of loans. Even with the huge down payment, you're still talking about financing over $50k. Even if you get approved, there's a good chance your interest rate will make a cash sale make more sense financially.

I put 30% down on the first car I ever bought, and even with an amazing credit score I got hurt by not having a history of installment loans. Talk to your bank or credit union. Financing through Tesla doesn't seem to be great regardless.
 

Maynerd

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Oct 27, 2017
2,526
Redmond, WA
How was the overall pick up experience. The Tesla reps seem knowledgeable and go over things thoroughly. Seems like a fun experience.

The experience was good although mine was a little different than what you may have seen in videos. There were two model 3 deliveries during my time slot. We had one guy go over things with the both of us. He was a sales manager and not the normal people who hand over cars so I could tell he was less familiar with the ins and outs of the car. He was fine though and grabbed someone when he wasn't sure about something.

Our deliveries were the last of the day but didn't feel rushed.

I've never driven a tesla before it's quite cool. The regenerative breaking is going to take a little to get used to. It's pretty awesome though as I really don't have to use my breaks nearly as much as my ice car, I'd imagine these breaks will last at least 2x as long.
 

Alcander

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Oct 29, 2017
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For those who configured, how long did it take to get a call/email? I configured last weekend but nothing yet.
 

Mcfrank

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Oct 28, 2017
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Configured 2/22, still no VIN. Seems to be they are holding CA delivery until the end of the month.